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| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/tempest master: Add system scope for admin auth https://review.opendev.org/686073 | 15:41 |
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| ccamposr | buenas | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/tempest master: Fix the logging of request body credentials https://review.opendev.org/686220 | 17:01 |
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| gmann | cmurphy: fyi, there is old patch for system scope support. I am ok with either one- https://review.opendev.org/#/c/604909/ | 17:03 |
| cmurphy | gmann: thanks, why does that one have no votes? | 17:04 |
| gmann | there were few things to verify (after PTG discussions). It was on me to re-review that | 17:04 |
| gmann | but did not get time. I will start that review this week or early next week. | 17:05 |
| cmurphy | i'll review it too, it looks pretty similar to mine | 17:06 |
| cmurphy | gmann: after the admin credentials can support system scope i've been working through ideas for general rbac testing | 17:09 |
| gmann | cmurphy: +1. thanks | 17:09 |
| cmurphy | basically i'd like for tempest to support nine more personas in addition to primary/alt, to represent the three scopes and three default roles in keystone | 17:09 |
| cmurphy | and then projects could implement tests for each persona for each policy, something like https://github.com/cmurphy/keystone-tempest-plugin-1/commit/a8d1968b6b7840fb70153925a4d36c3ae975203f | 17:10 |
| gmann | cmurphy: you mean with 'system', 'project', 'domain' X 'admin', 'member', 'reader' ? | 17:11 |
| cmurphy | gmann: right | 17:11 |
| cmurphy | so tests could use things like self.os_system_reader or self.os_domain_admin etc | 17:13 |
| gmann | only challenge with that will be 'reader' which is new role and master Tempest needs to test the all supported branches(Queens->..) also. | 17:13 |
| gmann | yeah, we need to redirect self.os_system_reader to self.os_system_member/admin or something if reader role not present. | 17:13 |
| cmurphy | gmann: what if we only implemented rbac tests in tempest plugins? | 17:14 |
| gmann | cmurphy: you mean in keystone_tempest_plugin or patrole ? | 17:14 |
| cmurphy | gmann: i'm talking about rbac testing for all the projects, so keystone_tempest_plugin and glance_tempest_plugin and nova_tempest_plugin etc | 17:15 |
| cmurphy | cc lbragstad ^ | 17:16 |
| * lbragstad lingers | 17:16 | |
| cmurphy | i don't think older branches should have to use eg self.os_system_reader in their tests, this would be for new tests as the projects actually start using the reader role | 17:17 |
| gmann | cmurphy: yes, Tempest existing tests can keep using the credential same way. It can only provide the support for new scope and role in credential. | 17:19 |
| gmann | rbac test in plugins: how those will be different than Patrole tests ? | 17:19 |
| gmann | in Nova, we decided to go with unit tests as of now. and later we go with Patrole or something for Tempest like tests | 17:21 |
| cmurphy | gmann: 1) projects get controle over their own tests, the patrole/qa team doesn't have to own them, 2) the way patrole works i think is too complicated for this, it uses the two tempest personas but changes around the role assignments in the background, whereas i think it is simpler if the nine personas exist out of the box | 17:22 |
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| gmann | cmurphy: and that is for positive tests case only or negative too ? | 17:26 |
| cmurphy | gmann: for both i think | 17:26 |
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| cmurphy | patrole i think is not ideal for regression testing because it checks the expected result by parsing the policy file or the policy-in-code, and also is not flexible enough to check for anything besides the response code, i think it is better for projects to write regular tests describing the behavior they are expecting for each policy | 17:27 |
| gmann | ok, main concern for other projects like Nova is 'to perform the complete operation for rbac verification'. keystone might be ok as operation are not so heavy. | 17:28 |
| gmann | that is same concern irrespective of tests location either patrole or plugin | 17:29 |
| cmurphy | right, i think there's no way to get around the fact that there will be a whole lot of tests | 17:30 |
| gmann | yeah, and if we try to cover the negative and positive cases then it will be lot of duplicate tests also or it end up building framework like Patrole (switch the role for tests and check policy authorization) | 17:32 |
| gmann | i liked the john idea of injecting the policy flag in services side like os_profiler, if flag is true then service skip the API actual operation and only return policy enforce result | 17:33 |
| cmurphy | i hadn't heard that idea | 17:34 |
| tosky | cmurphy: but of course if anything could be done to make the central patrole more useful for anyone, then we could just implement the patrole-based tests in each tempest plugin without reinventing the same more advanced functions every time | 17:34 |
| tosky | maybe it's going to be implicit in the process, maybe there is no really anything else general enough to be added to patrole, but I had to write it :) | 17:35 |
| gmann | patrole based tests can be either patrole or plugin (same way like Tempest like tests). | 17:35 |
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| gmann | cmurphy: it was during nova sessions of system scope but I am not sure what will be the other opinions on that. | 17:37 |
| cmurphy | tosky: that's true, just while i was trying to get familiar with patrole its design and architecture seemed really strange and overcomplicated when tempest on its own almost does what i envision | 17:37 |
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| cmurphy | if we try to tack on more things to patrole then it becomes even more complicated | 17:38 |
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| cmurphy | if these nine personas existed in tempest then the role-switching functionality of patrole wouldn't be needed, which is a big part of patrole's design | 17:40 |
| tosky | uhm, wouldn't patrole need to support other custom combinations "just in case"? Or given that it's all heavily tied to what keystone does, it wouldn't really matter in practice? | 17:41 |
| gmann | with nine personas, we need to modify the tests to observe those new roles. | 17:42 |
| cmurphy | tosky: it would be needed for patrole to test custom configuration, i am only concerned with testing the defaults | 17:42 |
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| gmann | cmurphy: one way to avoid duplicate tests is - instead of writing new tests in plugin, can we modify the plugin's existing tests to use new personas and redirect those personas to old defaults for stable branch testing ? and same we can do in Tempest? . and redirect can be handled via config option. | 17:49 |
| gmann | i mean current tests use os_primary.client (primary is member role). modify the tests to use os_project_reader.client and in test.py if no reader_role: os_project_reader = os_primary | 17:51 |
| cmurphy | gmann: i don't think it would make sense to redirect personas, for example if i want to test that a project reader cannot create servers then redirecting to use the member role would cause the test to fail | 17:51 |
| gmann | yeah those are negative cases which needs to be write in plugins as new tests. | 17:52 |
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| cmurphy | so we have to do that anyway, so then why add the redirect complication for positive tests? | 17:53 |
| gmann | but existing negative tests should be ok for lower role like reader | 17:53 |
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| cmurphy | existing negative tests in patrole? | 17:55 |
| gmann | no, in Tempest | 17:55 |
| gmann | say, existing negative tests in Tempest is, member cannot create server only admin can. so this test will not be modified. | 17:56 |
| gmann | because there is no reader role yet so all existing negative case are with either member or admin role | 17:57 |
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| gmann | and to cover the reader negative tests, those can be new tests in plugin | 17:57 |
| cmurphy | i'm in favor of avoiding duplication but i also think there's value in being really explicit about what's being tested, if the test is written so that "member" could mean member or reader or something else then that's not very clear | 17:58 |
| cmurphy | also none of the tests account for scope at all | 17:58 |
| cmurphy | all new tests will need to be written for that | 17:58 |
| gmann | i was thinking scope can also be redirect. system_scope = project_scope if no system scope present. | 17:59 |
| gmann | i agree with your point but slowly we can remove the redirect once all stable branches have those default roles/scope | 17:59 |
| gmann | because at the end or when projects start remove the old role support then Tempest tests has to be modified | 18:00 |
| gmann | though I have not thought on removal of old roles yet. for example in Nova I am thinking to remove the old roles support after 2 cycle of new defaults is implemented (which will be Ussuri most probably ) but before that we have to modify the failed Tempest tests which are going to be lot. | 18:02 |
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| gmann | especially when scope enforcement is enabled by default. | 18:03 |
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| cmurphy | what roles does nova need to remove? | 18:06 |
| gmann | say adding system scope to current project scoped API. so old project admin will be removed in that API policy rule | 18:10 |
| cmurphy | maybe we need new flags in tempest indicating whether enforce_scope is set per-service | 18:11 |
| gmann | yeah | 18:14 |
| gmann | and slowly Tempest has to migrated to new defaults | 18:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/tempest master: WIP/PoC: Add default RBAC personas to dynamic creds https://review.opendev.org/686306 | 21:40 |
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| gmann | slaweq: amotoki : neutron new ipv6 job is failing few tests with ssh timeout but bgp with some other error, am i missing some configuration there ? - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686043/5 | 22:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/tempest master: Fix the logging of request body credentials https://review.opendev.org/686220 | 23:11 |
| gmann | masayukig: we have 686220 to get in for Tempest release. anything else you want to discuss in today office hour, otherwise I will skip this week. | 23:12 |
| gmann | i have updated that with reno | 23:12 |
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| bigdogstl | I was wondering if anyone that know cred manager well can look at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1846410 | 23:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1846410 in tempest "When using 'use_dynamic_credentials = false' credentials are being modified somewhere in tempest lib" [Undecided,New] | 23:56 |
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