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| gmann | efried: no, those are failing on scenario tests with no valid host. I did not check root cause but not related to network things. | 02:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Soniya Murlidhar Vyas proposed openstack/tempest master: Added fix to 'test_delete_saving_image' testcase https://review.opendev.org/702808 | 07:55 |
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| frickler | ianw: I'd like to see your opinion on these two when you have time https://review.opendev.org/702960 https://review.opendev.org/702570 | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/devstack master: stackrc: Change default Python 3 version https://review.opendev.org/687588 | 11:19 |
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| paras333 | afazekas: gmann : Hey Guys, whenever you get a chance, Can you take a look on this patch https://review.opendev.org/698598 I have updated according to the review provided:) | 14:59 |
| efried | masayukig: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702553/ is passing, would you please merge it? | 15:04 |
| efried | between that and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702960/ nova's gate is ill :( | 15:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/devstack-gate master: WIP Remove g-api from subnodes https://review.opendev.org/703099 | 15:09 |
| gmann | efried: he might be sleeping. afazekas for you - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702553/ | 15:09 |
| efried | thanks gmann | 15:09 |
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| gmann | frickler: i agree with efried on 702960/. | 15:29 |
| gmann | there is patch to remove g-api form subnode but i do not know why it was there at first place so cannot tell any side effect of that but doing protection on devstack side is not so bad | 15:30 |
| gmann | "touch DB stuff if DB service on node" | 15:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajat Dhasmana proposed openstack/tempest master: Refactor methods to be used by other tests https://review.opendev.org/702493 | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/devstack-gate master: Stop installing g-api on subnodes https://review.opendev.org/703129 | 17:15 |
| stephenfin | frickler, gmann, (artom, efried): ^ | 17:15 |
| stephenfin | As an alternative to https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702960/ | 17:16 |
| stephenfin | I'm still onboard with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702960/ too though, fwiw, given the follow-up comments | 17:16 |
| stephenfin | and https://review.opendev.org/703129 probably needs some input from the glance folks | 17:16 |
| artom | stephenfin, I dunno - talk with clarkb, he was saying g-api on the subnode makes sense for grenade upgrade testing | 17:17 |
| efried | stephenfin: note https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703099/ | 17:17 |
| stephenfin | gdi | 17:17 |
| stephenfin | Thanks, efried | 17:17 |
| efried | different approach though. lyarwood care to comment? | 17:17 |
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| stephenfin | we need to combine the two | 17:18 |
| stephenfin | lyarwood fixed the tests, I fixed the code | 17:18 |
| efried | but lyarwood abandoned because apparently some part of having g-api on subnode could be legit. | 17:18 |
| efried | though I don't claim to understand the nuances. | 17:19 |
| stephenfin | how can we prove that, I wonder? | 17:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/devstack-gate master: Stop installing g-api on subnodes https://review.opendev.org/703129 | 17:19 |
| efried | My priority is merging https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702960/ asap to get the gate moving. Then we can debate the other thing at leisure. | 17:19 |
| efried | and by "we" I mean "people who know things" | 17:20 |
| artom | I'm with efried - the devstack change isn't insane AFAICT, and people know know more seem to agree | 17:20 |
| clarkb | artom: well it was one reason it may make sense at least | 17:20 |
| clarkb | artom: I think we should ask the glance team if that is somethng they were trying to test with grenade | 17:20 |
| clarkb | efried: ^ | 17:20 |
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| stephenfin | can we just revert the original patch and debate all this next week, as efried suggested in the thread? | 17:21 |
| clarkb | as a general rule that is why you might find "odd" things installed on the subnode. But we should still confirm it was itnentional | 17:21 |
| stephenfin | on openstack-discuss, maybe. There's clearly some nuance to be worked out | 17:21 |
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| efried | where's frickler geographically? If past EOB, I sure don't want to wait another day to get things moving. | 17:22 |
| stephenfin | revert seems like the approach so, assuming others use a similar strategy to nova | 17:22 |
| stephenfin | (if it breaks stuff, pull it out pronto and rework at our leisure) | 17:22 |
| efried | I'd be happy to propose a revert, adding to the spread of patches addressing the issue. yoctozepto, would you be behind that? | 17:24 |
| efried | I mean, it's not like we're at feature freeze or anything, but that doesn't mean it's okay to block nova's gate indefinitely while we come up with a perfect fix. | 17:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/devstack master: Revert "Run Glance initialization when Glance is enabled, not just registry" https://review.opendev.org/703131 | 17:26 |
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| yoctozepto | well, folks, I fixed the issue, not happy with doing 2 reverts | 17:26 |
| efried | I don't disagree. The actual-revert would only be for the sake of being able to defer addressing frickler's objection to your other proposed fix. | 17:27 |
| stephenfin | yeah, but it does buy us time to debate that properly | 17:27 |
| yoctozepto | there is nothing to debate from my pov | 17:27 |
| yoctozepto | nova, cinder and neutron can do it and glance not | 17:28 |
| yoctozepto | sounds ridiculous | 17:28 |
| gmann | efried: he (frickler ) is berlin based if i am not wrong so not sure he will be online. | 17:28 |
| stephenfin | but there is from others, so that debate has to be had | 17:28 |
| stephenfin | we can't cram something in without giving them a chance to come around | 17:28 |
| stephenfin | so let's try talk frickler around next weekend, like decent people | 17:29 |
| gmann | disabling g-api in greande subnode need glance team input which is not so active i will say so that will take time. | 17:29 |
| stephenfin | *week | 17:29 |
| stephenfin | agreed | 17:29 |
| yoctozepto | well, you can always revert the fix if it's not the right one | 17:29 |
| efried | Right, so with my PTL hat on, if frickler isn't around to debate and/or remove his -1, we need to merge *something* to get nova's gate moving. Whatever that something is, we'll have to agree on with those present. Perhaps that means overruling frickler's -1 and merging that patch anyway. Or perhaps it means a revert of the original. | 17:29 |
| gmann | he will agree i think, it is just matter of when he come back online | 17:29 |
| stephenfin | efried: it's always a revert in nova land | 17:30 |
| efried | I don't have a technical hat in this ring, so I really don't care which patch we merge. | 17:30 |
| efried | nor do I especially care to participate in the longer discussion, happy to leave that for people who can spell grenade etc. | 17:31 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: revert is safest and fastest option here to unblock nova. | 17:31 |
| efried | ^ and unrevert later once we have agreement | 17:32 |
| stephenfin | agreed | 17:32 |
| gmann | yeah. | 17:32 |
| stephenfin | I don't disagree with yoctozepto's follow-up patch. I just don't want to overrule frickler when they're not here to defend themselves | 17:32 |
| gmann | +1 | 17:32 |
| gmann | we have to unblock gate as priority than what is best possible way to solve the occurred issue. | 17:33 |
| stephenfin | yoctozepto: Are you okay with that. Once everyone is back on Monday we can get the confusion sorted out, unrevert the patch and merge your fix | 17:33 |
| stephenfin | nova's immediate issues are fixed and no one feels they were pushed aside | 17:33 |
| gmann | stable queens and stable rocky is also blocked for neutron and that is another complex situation on how to fix it as best, so let go one by one. | 17:34 |
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| yoctozepto | yeah, I'm not going to be super stubborn on this (but I can!), I just feel like the situation went ridiculous due to hasty review from frickler, and I don't mean it in a bad way - I did bad -1s myself and blocked legit work | 17:35 |
| yoctozepto | so go whatever works and is accepted in the community :-) | 17:35 |
| yoctozepto | (and I get a free commit by reverting a revert next week) | 17:36 |
| artom | yoctozepto, it's not a personal thing against the quality of your fix. I totally get that you made a patch, saw it had unintended consequences, and quickly came up with a fix, only to have it summarily shut down. It sucks, I get it :) | 17:36 |
| gmann | real issue is lack of jobs coverage on devstack and tempest gate where one fix trigger other issue. | 17:36 |
| artom | We just want to get Nova merging code again | 17:36 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: true | 17:36 |
| efried | I'm assuming frickler didn't realize this was a gate blocker before dropping a -1 and leaving for the dap :P | 17:36 |
| efried | day | 17:36 |
| yoctozepto | artom: who wouldn't? :D | 17:36 |
| gmann | efried: exactly. | 17:37 |
| efried | gmann: we could make the n-l-m job voting in devstack | 17:37 |
| gmann | it is just matter of he is not around. | 17:37 |
| yoctozepto | efried: true | 17:37 |
| efried | it's there and running, just not voting. | 17:37 |
| gmann | efried: i am ok with that, we have same in tempest gate. i will +2 once you push that | 17:37 |
| stephenfin | I guess the real solution is to finish migrating to zuul v3 and kill d-g | 17:37 |
| stephenfin | WIP though | 17:37 |
| gmann | efried: wait, you said it is running already ? | 17:38 |
| efried | yup, we definitely know we want to do that, but it turns out to be hard. | 17:38 |
| artom | stephenfin, the real solution is to put everything and containers and rnu k8s, amirite? | 17:38 |
| gmann | i think its not on devtack gate | 17:38 |
| efried | um, I thought it was gmann | 17:38 |
| efried | I thought I saw it (red) on the original patch... | 17:38 |
| gmann | ok, adding n-v also work | 17:38 |
| stephenfin | k8s will save humanity. Praise k8s. | 17:38 |
| efried | nope, I'm wrong | 17:38 |
| efried | adding n-v doesn't tend to work, red nonvoting jobs get ignored. | 17:39 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: let's go for the revert and we will re-revert your patch for sure | 17:39 |
| yoctozepto | nah, it's not running there | 17:39 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: yeah, agreed | 17:39 |
| yoctozepto | already +1 | 17:39 |
| stephenfin | gmann: Waiting on your approval https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703131/ | 17:39 |
| stephenfin | If there are no other devstack cores online, it might need to be a single +2 approval too /o\ | 17:40 |
| yoctozepto | folks, wait, you did not revert the 2nd change | 17:40 |
| yoctozepto | this will fail | 17:40 |
| stephenfin | wdym? | 17:40 |
| stephenfin | ah d7dfcdb4674daae8a294848b1de6fa87c5d7d4eb | 17:40 |
| gmann | +A, i thought it is not up yet | 17:40 |
| gmann | stephenfin: i fast approve. | 17:41 |
| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/702709 | 17:41 |
| yoctozepto | mhm | 17:41 |
| yoctozepto | first revert this one | 17:41 |
| yoctozepto | or do a double revert | 17:41 |
| efried | I'm not sure I understand why that's necessary, but if you say so. | 17:42 |
| yoctozepto | well, if you leave it in place, then all jobs will fail due to glance never being initialized | 17:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/devstack master: Revert "Run Glance initialization when Glance is enabled, not just registry" https://review.opendev.org/703131 | 17:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/devstack master: Revert "Stop enabling g-reg by default" https://review.opendev.org/703137 | 17:42 |
| yoctozepto | that was the point of it - to stop having g-reg around | 17:42 |
| efried | oh, *other* jobs | 17:42 |
| stephenfin | done | 17:42 |
| efried | yeah, I guess we should care about that :P | 17:42 |
| stephenfin | yoctozepto: good catch, thanks | 17:42 |
| yoctozepto | efried: well, *yours* too :P | 17:43 |
| yoctozepto | stephenfin: yw | 17:43 |
| efried | okay. | 17:43 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: now need two approvals | 17:44 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: efried stephenfin sure, waiting for the gate results now to confirm the other jobs results. | 17:45 |
| yoctozepto | sure | 17:45 |
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| stephenfin | and on that good note, it's 17:45 on Friday evening and I am outta here 🍻 | 17:46 |
| stephenfin | have a good weekend, all o/ | 17:46 |
| gmann | stephenfin: you too. | 17:46 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: thanks | 17:46 |
| efried | thanks for the help stephenfin | 17:48 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: now on other bug on EOLing py2 drama. I am going to try py3.6 install on xenial first. if that does not work, i will pin tempest and plugins with py2-supported version with corresponding u-c. | 17:48 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: makes sense | 17:48 |
| yoctozepto | this really is drama | 17:49 |
| gmann | queens is already EM so pin is all as per policy and rocky is supposed to be EM on feb 24th so it will not be worst to pin by 1 month early. | 17:49 |
| yoctozepto | so maybe just pin it and off it goes? | 17:50 |
| gmann | stein onwards works well as use bionic there | 17:50 |
| gmann | we need to trigger some logic to pin plugins, for tempest we have a global var | 17:51 |
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| yoctozepto | well, if we want to keep testing stables with master then the most future-proof would be separate node | 17:52 |
| yoctozepto | or containerization | 17:52 |
| yoctozepto | then tempest is completely outside the effects of distro it tests | 17:52 |
| yoctozepto | (except for kernel if container which is irrelevant for tempest) | 17:52 |
| gmann | yeah that will be more work. we need to test only non-EM branch with master and all EM should be with corresponding tag if master does not work. | 17:54 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, but, as shown, those non-em stables could still be a pita ;-) | 17:55 |
| gmann | so here py2 drop is valid reason to not to use master. testing stable branch py2 with py2-supported tempest. | 17:55 |
| gmann | it is req today but any py2 non-compatible code makes master tempest non testable for stable branch (EM or non-EM). | 17:56 |
| gmann | I was planing to switch that by Feb mid but it trigger little early due to this bug | 17:56 |
| yoctozepto | later we might be experiencing py3.x and (fast forward) py4 issues | 17:58 |
| yoctozepto | so for this policy it really mandates more separation of tempest | 17:58 |
| yoctozepto | we actually have a plan to run tempest in kolla-ansible | 17:59 |
| yoctozepto | but always something more urgent :-) | 17:59 |
| gmann | ok, Tempest and plugins kolla image is there right | 17:59 |
| gmann | i think it was running on some job, chandan did some time back but not sure | 18:00 |
| gmann | some job in kolla | 18:00 |
| yoctozepto | not sure either, not tested nowadays | 18:00 |
| yoctozepto | it builds but no run in CI | 18:00 |
| gmann | ohk | 18:02 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: so - are you going with the pin for rocky? | 18:09 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: yes, rocky and queens. but after py3.6 try | 18:09 |
| yoctozepto | ahh, ok | 18:10 |
| yoctozepto | if it's easy, then why not | 18:10 |
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