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| cgoncalves | gmann, hey! can grenade also do distro upgrades? for example, thinking of ussuri->victoria / bionic->focal | 07:27 | 
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| cgoncalves | gmann, hey. just checking if you got my message this morning about grenade | 13:54 | 
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| tosky | cgoncalves: as far as I remember, we don't use for that (so that we have an overlap where at some point we need to keep the support for the older distro working) | 13:58 | 
| cgoncalves | tosky, hey. I don't follow the "we don't use for that" part, sorry | 13:59 | 
| cgoncalves | tosky, ussuri is bionic, victoria is focal. no overlap in the tested runtimes/OSes | 13:59 | 
| tosky | cgoncalves: I don't think it support distro upgrade because, as far as I remember, we used the same version | 13:59 | 
| cgoncalves | so even if grenade supports bionic in victoria, devstack or other projects may not | 13:59 | 
| cgoncalves | right | 13:59 | 
| tosky | well, I think we did that in the xenial->bionic upgrade, even though it was not supported | 14:00 | 
| cgoncalves | tosky, ok. so any plans to support distro upgrade? | 14:01 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: yeah, grenade does not do distro upgrade | 14:02 | 
| gmann | it install the openstack on older node distro and just upgrade the service by checkout to new release code. | 14:02 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: about plan to do in future, i think that will need changing the design of grenade for example we need to run the devstack on new node. | 14:03 | 
| gmann | and i am not sure at this point of that upgrade can be combined with current upgrade things. like "resources created before upgrade exist after upgrade" as we end up reinstalling openstack | 14:04 | 
| openstackgerrit | Piotr Kopec proposed openstack/tempest master: [compute] Blacklist test_create_second_image due to race https://review.opendev.org/733154 | 14:05 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: if devstack switch to Focal(which is the plan in Victoria ), grenade pull up job (Ussuri -> victroia) will be still doing on bionic which is right as ussuri is on bionic | 14:06 | 
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| cgoncalves | gmann, right but the grenade tests may fail once upgraded to victoria | 14:07 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: did not get ? | 14:08 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: ohk, so if something really changed in distro new version then yes | 14:08 | 
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| cgoncalves | gmann, so base is bionic+ussuri, tests pass. target is bionic+victoria and that may not work well for whatever reasons (e.g. projects dropping bionic support) | 14:09 | 
| gmann | we have not encountered that situation yet | 14:09 | 
| gmann | yeah, that is good point | 14:09 | 
| cgoncalves | another use case is fast-forward upgrades, e.g. queens->master | 14:11 | 
| cgoncalves | xenial -> focal | 14:11 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: FFU is not covered for grenade testing. i am not sure we can do thay | 14:11 | 
| cgoncalves | gmann, it's not? | 14:11 | 
| cgoncalves | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/732986/ | 14:11 | 
| cgoncalves | stein->master | 14:12 | 
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| gmann | cgoncalves: wow, it will be good to see the result :). 'not covered' i mean we do nto test yet so we donnot know how it will work | 14:14 | 
| cgoncalves | gmann, result is job result "SUCCESS" :) | 14:15 | 
| cgoncalves | I had a quick look last night and it seemed to have installed stein as base and upgraded to master so... works | 14:15 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: ohk, so stein is on bionic right so there is no distro change. | 14:15 | 
| cgoncalves | my goal would to be have a queens->master job though, hence my distro upgrade question | 14:16 | 
| cgoncalves | right | 14:16 | 
| gmann | and rocky job is also work which is xenail and stein on xenial work fine | 14:17 | 
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| cgoncalves | even though bionic is not a supported distro version in stein IIRC | 14:18 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: ok, it depends on how distro changes happen between different versions | 14:18 | 
| cgoncalves | yep | 14:18 | 
| gmann | bionic is supported on in stein. we did migration from xenial to bionic in stein | 14:19 | 
| cgoncalves | oops, sorry. I mean xenial supported in stein | 14:19 | 
| gmann | ok. | 14:19 | 
| tosky | cgoncalves: just to be clear: that DNM job you linked updates directly the newer version without going through the intermediate steps | 14:21 | 
| cgoncalves | tosky, correct. that is what I wanted to test | 14:21 | 
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| gmann | if we see in different way, we can somehow test two different disro version. like - grenade job tests victoria code on bionic and non-grenade jobs test the same code on focal. so we make sure code will work when people upgrade. | 14:22 | 
| cgoncalves | than bionic would also be a tested distro in victoria | 14:26 | 
| gmann | at some extend via current grenade job, yes. but we will not test it with complete testing but at least there is no code compatibility issue. | 14:27 | 
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| gmann | cgoncalves: not sure but good to check if tripleO CI does distro upgrade or so ? | 14:37 | 
| cgoncalves | gmann, I vaguely remember seeing a WIP patch for FFU. not sure it does distro upgrade or not | 14:37 | 
| gmann | ok | 14:39 | 
| cgoncalves | gmann, assuming tripleo upgrades distro, what would you like to see/check? | 14:40 | 
| gmann | cgoncalves: if things work fine and we can at least claim on distro upgrade as grenade is not doing currently. or may be something to do in grenade in future | 14:41 | 
| gmann | i remember py2->py3 upgrade was one of the things people wanted to do with grenade | 14:41 | 
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