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| ikhudoshyn | boris-42 andreykurilin amaretskiy rvasilets guys I'd like to draw yr attention to the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274977 | 11:55 |
| amaretskiy | ikhudoshyn: ok | 11:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | pls take a look on the discussion in comments as well and share yr thoughts | 11:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Illia Khudoshyn proposed openstack/rally: Fix Ceilometer scenarios against Keystone API v3 https://review.openstack.org/275647 | 11:59 |
| andreykurilin | ikhudoshyn, I'll look at it a bit later | 12:01 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Infra running with lower capacity now, due to a temporary problem affecting one of our nodepool providers. Please expect some delays in your jobs. Apologies for any inconvenience caused. | 12:40 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Piyush Raman Srivastava proposed openstack/rally: Add list subnets/routers/FIPs to NetworkWrapper https://review.openstack.org/272251 | 12:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Illia Khudoshyn proposed openstack/rally: Fix Ceilometer scenarios against Keystone API v3 https://review.openstack.org/275647 | 12:57 |
| Sravani | Hi, Does Rally has REST APIs? If yes, would anyone please provide the documnetation links for the same? Thanks in advance. | 12:58 |
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| yfried | amaretskiy: andreykurilin: re https://bugs.launchpad.net/rally/+bug/1510175 | 13:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1510175 in Rally "Rally task detailed 95%ile Response Times different from HTML graphics report" [High,Triaged] | 13:27 |
| yfried | which value is the right one? HTML or JSON? | 13:27 |
| amaretskiy | yfried: JSON shoudl have the same value as in HTML | 13:28 |
| amaretskiy | yfried: because JSON data is calculated after we get all task results, but HTML calculates it on-the-fly, so this allows to process huge amount of data without high memory usage | 13:29 |
| yfried | amaretskiy: the bug says they are different, so I'm wondering which is the right one | 13:30 |
| amaretskiy | yfried: here is the place whare stats is calculated for html: https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/task/processing/plot.py#L28 | 13:30 |
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| amaretskiy | yfried: truthfully speaking - JSON is more accurate, but it does not have streaming calculation, so HTML-way is better | 13:31 |
| amaretskiy | yfried, the difference is rather small so HTML-way is the best | 13:31 |
| amaretskiy | task results (JSON) uses deprecated way and should be improved to streaming processing (like "task report" does) | 13:32 |
| amaretskiy | yfried https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/task/processing/plot.py#L72-L74 | 13:33 |
| yfried | rook: ^ | 13:33 |
| rook | amaretskiy: interesting, so automating the results is a bit difficult then since we cannot rely on the stdout results. | 13:34 |
| rook | amaretskiy: to automate this work, we should pull the json, and calculate that way. | 13:35 |
| amaretskiy | rook: the difference between non-streaming calculation and streaming one is small | 13:35 |
| rook | amaretskiy: i disagree,. | 13:35 |
| rook | amaretskiy we have seen quite the difference, as well as the success rate being totally incorrect. | 13:35 |
| amaretskiy | rook: streaming processing can be improved to become very accurate | 13:35 |
| rook | the stdout will show 100% for one test, but the HTML report will report 88% for the same test. | 13:36 |
| amaretskiy | rook: in any case we MUST use streaming data processing because of possible memory usage issues while processing thousands of iterations | 13:36 |
| amaretskiy | rook: this is a topic to improve streaming calculation, not switch back to old solution | 13:37 |
| amaretskiy | rook: here is a streaming processing class for statistics https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/task/processing/charts.py#L351-L384 | 13:38 |
| rook | amaretskiy: so, it is recommended to ditch the stdout results, and use the JSON output | 13:38 |
| amaretskiy | rook: discuss this with boris-42, I'm sure he will say that we must use streaming processing | 13:39 |
| rook | amaretskiy: i am of the opinion to pull the raw data myself to avoid any changes that could occur within Rally. | 13:40 |
| rook | amaretskiy -- which would mean i could dump the JSON and import that into python/perl/etc and calculate, right? | 13:41 |
| amaretskiy | we have a feature of custom output tables/charts for that - you can generate arbitrary charts by the scenario | 13:41 |
| rook | amaretskiy: example? | 13:41 |
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| amaretskiy | rook: http://logs.openstack.org/77/274977/5/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally/34e285e/rally-plot/results.html.gz#/Dummy.dummy_output/output | 13:42 |
| amaretskiy | rook: this is relatively new improvement :) | 13:42 |
| amaretskiy | rook: her eis how these tables/charts are generated https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/common/scenarios/dummy/dummy.py#L84-L138 | 13:43 |
| rook | amaretskiy: how do I generate results like this? | 13:43 |
| rook | amaretskiy: this is nice - would be great if we could start using this - instead of generating our graphs outside of Raly | 13:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Wilkerson proposed openstack/rally: Removed mutable default argument https://review.openstack.org/275703 | 13:44 |
| amaretskiy | rook: there is an improvement upcoming: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272989/2 | 13:44 |
| rook | amaretskiy can we do run to run compares? | 13:44 |
| amaretskiy | rook: http://logs.openstack.org/89/272989/2/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally/9e663dd/rally-plot/results.html.gz#/Dummy.dummy_output/output | 13:45 |
| amaretskiy | rook: not clear, please explain | 13:45 |
| amaretskiy | rook: compare scenarios runs? | 13:45 |
| andreykurilin | amaretskiy: if the difference between streaming processing and old way is in 12%(even sometimes), our streaming algorithms su*k. | 13:46 |
| rook | amaretskiy correct, lets say I run a scenario with OpenStack default config... Then I make a change to the OpenStack env, re-run the scenario - Now, I want to compare the two to show the difference. | 13:46 |
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| amaretskiy | rook: the feature you asking is on my development right now - it even possible that I submit a first patch set today :) | 13:47 |
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| rook | amaretskiy cool | 13:48 |
| amaretskiy | rook: streaming calculation must be improved, not thrown out | 13:48 |
| rook | amaretskiy we would make use of that in Browbeat -- we are wrapping different Rally scenarios with changes to the infrastructure to show how those changes impact the env. | 13:48 |
| amaretskiy | rook: here is a causer https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/common/streaming_algorithms.py#L154-L181 | 13:49 |
| rook | right now we are building the graphs external to Rally | 13:49 |
| rook | but we have been using the stdout results... | 13:49 |
| rook | which has been a thorn in our side. | 13:49 |
| amaretskiy | rook: you need to have all the graphs in rally html report, right? | 13:50 |
| rook | amaretskiy: nope, not necessarily. | 13:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Add wrapper for Glance API versions https://review.openstack.org/264964 | 13:52 |
| amaretskiy | rook: feel free to discuss with me any problems/features related to reports | 13:53 |
| amaretskiy | rook: right now I'm not planning to fix streaming calculation (working on another high priority task), but this is an important task for close future | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Create new types.convert() https://review.openstack.org/249462 | 14:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Convert ResourceType classes to plugins https://review.openstack.org/249463 | 14:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris St. Pierre proposed openstack/rally: Convert existing scenarios to new types plugins https://review.openstack.org/249464 | 14:02 |
| rook | amaretskiy can you please at least document the issue on readthedocs? | 14:07 |
| rook | amaretskiy: and mention which source is the *right* source to use. | 14:07 |
| rook | given the issue? | 14:07 |
| rook | I think that might be a good first step. | 14:07 |
| amaretskiy | rook: I think that this info is for launchpad bug, not docs | 14:08 |
| amaretskiy | I will add a comment to a bug on launchpad | 14:08 |
| amaretskiy | rook: maybe discuss this on our weekly rally meeting? | 14:09 |
| amaretskiy | rook https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Rally | 14:10 |
| rook | amaretskiy i think it is important for users to understand that they *will* see a difference. it is totally confusing and gives users a lack of confidence in the numbers rally generates. | 14:10 |
| rook | which, that is the most important thing to Rally, is the results it generates. | 14:10 |
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| rook | amaretskiy do you disagree? | 14:17 |
| amaretskiy | rook: agree about bug priority, not about mentioning the bug in documentation | 14:17 |
| amaretskiy | rook: we have special resource for management bugs | 14:18 |
| amaretskiy | rook: I've added a descriptive comment to bug | 14:19 |
| rook | alright... | 14:19 |
| rook | guess we can agree to disagree ;P | 14:20 |
| amaretskiy | rook: :) | 14:20 |
| amaretskiy | rook: let's talk about this on our weekly meeting | 14:20 |
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| amaretskiy | root: meeting is a great place because most members of rally team can participate | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | *rook | 14:21 |
| rook | sure, ill think about joining :) | 14:21 |
| rook | i used to join - but got buried with other things | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | rook: great :) | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | rook: great :) <-- abiut joining | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | *about | 14:22 |
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| redixin | hiyo | 14:59 |
| ikhudoshyn | hi redixin | 14:59 |
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| ikhudoshyn | boris-42: andreykurilin redixin amaretskiy rvasilets guys! this is to enable keystone v3 api by default and add dedicated v2 job https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274668/ | 16:08 |
| ikhudoshyn | please come and look! I'd like to be sure it's fine for us before I ping infra team | 16:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | and pls don't forget https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274700/ | 16:10 |
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| rvasilets | ok | 16:13 |
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| agrebennikov | boris-42, any suggestions on my problem? | 17:05 |
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| ningy | @here could anyone point me to an example of using ddt module? | 20:21 |
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| redixin | ningy: https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/tests/unit/plugins/openstack/scenarios/neutron/test_network.py#L354-L371 | 20:36 |
| redixin | ningy: it will call test_create_and_list_floating_ips twice passing different arguments (listed in @ddt.data) | 20:37 |
| ningy | thanks @redixin | 20:40 |
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