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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Move independent project releases https://review.openstack.org/242098 | 12:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: display release:independent projects on a separate page https://review.openstack.org/244264 | 12:50 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: add mitaka page to toctree https://review.openstack.org/244265 | 12:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: include some details about how we want commit messages structured https://review.openstack.org/243801 | 13:06 |
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dhellmann | ttx: do we want to meet today, or wait for next friday? I don't think there's anything major to discuss, so it should be a short meeting anyway | 13:53 |
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dhellmann | hi, daemontool_ | 14:05 |
daemontool_ | hi dhellmann | 14:05 |
daemontool_ | so in Freezer we wanted to be aligned to kilo global-requirements | 14:05 |
dhellmann | in your master branch? | 14:06 |
daemontool_ | yes | 14:06 |
daemontool_ | now | 14:06 |
daemontool_ | so my question is | 14:06 |
daemontool_ | can we create a stable/kilo branch now? | 14:06 |
daemontool_ | and move to liberty, then create stable/liberty | 14:06 |
daemontool_ | and from there have master on mitaka? | 14:06 |
daemontool_ | and so on? | 14:06 |
daemontool_ | we did this, because we wanted to give to as much as users a possible the possibility to use the tool | 14:07 |
daemontool_ | also in production environments | 14:07 |
dhellmann | what would that enable you to do? | 14:07 |
daemontool_ | no one use mitaka in production | 14:07 |
daemontool_ | a lots of users use kilo and liberty | 14:07 |
daemontool_ | so, if the tool works with the requirements from kilo and mitaka | 14:08 |
daemontool_ | more people can use it | 14:08 |
daemontool_ | on their prod env | 14:08 |
dhellmann | stable branches, by definition, don't get new features. Are you ready to apply a feature freeze to those branches? | 14:08 |
daemontool_ | yes | 14:08 |
dhellmann | is master currently compatible with kilo? | 14:09 |
daemontool_ | yes | 14:09 |
daemontool_ | on freezer, freezer-api and freezer-web-ui repos | 14:09 |
dhellmann | ok, I think what you're proposing makes sense then | 14:09 |
daemontool_ | :) | 14:09 |
daemontool_ | always a pleasure to talk with you dhellmann :) | 14:09 |
dhellmann | release and branch stable/kilo now, then update to work with liberty and do the same thing, etc. | 14:09 |
daemontool_ | ok ty | 14:10 |
dhellmann | just keep in mind that rule about back-porting features | 14:10 |
ttx | dhellmann: oops | 14:10 |
ttx | I assumed we would skip | 14:10 |
daemontool_ | dhellmann, ok | 14:11 |
ttx | dhellmann: maybe do a quick one | 14:11 |
dhellmann | ttx: we haven't talked in 2 days, I miss you ;-) | 14:11 |
ttx | that is true | 14:11 |
kzaitsev_mb | (= | 14:12 |
dhellmann | ttx: ok, I'll move to #openstack-meeting | 14:12 |
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dims_ | ttx dhellmann one of you please bless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243839/ ? it's holding up some neutron breaks for notifications (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242775/) | 14:41 |
dhellmann | daemontool_ : Jokke_ said you're having trouble making the branch. Let me know if I can help. | 14:42 |
dhellmann | dims_ : holding up some neutron *fixes* I hope? :-) | 14:43 |
dims_ | haha yes, notifications are busted :) this helps fix them | 14:44 |
dhellmann | dims_ : +2a | 14:44 |
dims_ | thanks dhellmann | 14:45 |
daemontool_ | dhellmann, I'm having a conversation about it with AJaeger in -infra I'll get back to you if I need help, thanks | 14:46 |
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dhellmann | daemontool_ : ack | 14:52 |
ttx | lifeless: you probably want to chime in on the "[stable][neutron] upper constraints for stable/liberty" thread when you have a few minutes | 14:52 |
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dhellmann | daemontool_ : (repeating from -infra) please make sure you tag a release before creating a branch | 14:53 |
daemontool_ | ok | 14:54 |
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dhellmann | daemontool_ : another thing to consider is that since liberty does not have caps, you could support liberty out of master | 15:05 |
daemontool_ | that's cool... life is easy for once | 15:10 |
daemontool_ | lol | 15:10 |
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daemontool_ | dhellmann, so the workflow would be: 1) release the version on pypi, 2) tag on the repo that version from pypi 3) create stable branch | 15:13 |
daemontool_ | the tag should correspond to the pypi version right? | 15:14 |
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dhellmann | daemontool_ : no, tagging will create the release and publish it if you have the right jobs and permissions set up | 15:39 |
dhellmann | daemontool_ : let me find those directions | 15:39 |
dhellmann | daemontool_ : go through this guide and make sure your project and repo match everything here: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 15:39 |
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daemontool_ | ok ty | 15:43 |
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ttx | dhellmann: Could you give a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245215 ? I'd like to fix that index asap | 16:00 |
dhellmann | ttx: lgtm, we should turn on the flag to make sphinx fail the build for warnings to catch these things | 16:01 |
ttx | indeed | 16:01 |
dhellmann | I wonder if it's on, but we're being hit by the pbr bug that made that option not actually be used | 16:02 |
ttx | that is possible | 16:02 |
ttx | I know I hit errors running tox on my branches that are not related to my change | 16:02 |
ttx | (on another review) | 16:02 |
dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229951/ | 16:02 |
dhellmann | that fixes it, but lifeless is worried it will break projects since we've lived with it not active for so long | 16:03 |
ttx | it will indeed break, ideally we should find a way to fix all the issues before turning iton | 16:03 |
dhellmann | yeah, I've put that on my back-burner | 16:04 |
dhellmann | I'll send email out | 16:04 |
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odyssey4me | As I recall from the Mitaka release discussion, upper-constraints is not being maintained for kilo. Is that correct? | 17:09 |
sdague | odyssey4me: it does not exist in kilo | 17:17 |
sdague | it was designed at the liberty summit | 17:17 |
odyssey4me | sdague http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/upper-constraints.txt :) | 17:18 |
odyssey4me | whoops, silly me | 17:18 |
odyssey4me | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/tree/upper-constraints.txt?h=stable%2Fkilo | 17:18 |
sdague | hmmmm | 17:18 |
sdague | I didn't realize it backported | 17:19 |
sdague | the infrastructure I thought was just on liberty and forward | 17:19 |
odyssey4me | I vaguely recall a mention that it was not being maintained. At the time I wasn't too phased by it... but after consideration I think this may be worth keeping up to date if at all possible. | 17:19 |
odyssey4me | The silliness of maintaining caps in stable/kilo hurts. | 17:20 |
sdague | yeh, it looks like a single commit really | 17:21 |
sdague | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commits/stable/kilo/upper-constraints.txt | 17:21 |
odyssey4me | Unfortunately due to downstream consumers, I would guess that the caps would have to remain and be maintained too - but the impact can be reduced in the gate and for anyone consuming upper-constraints if upper constraints are maintained. | 17:21 |
sdague | so, for it to be maintained, the devstack support would need to be backported to kilo as well | 17:21 |
sdague | which is not totally crazy | 17:22 |
sdague | but no one signed up for it | 17:22 |
sdague | I'll review those if you are signing up for it | 17:22 |
odyssey4me | If I knew enough to do it, I probably would. Perhaps I can rustle up some volunteers. Was there a blueprint, spec or topic under which the work was done? | 17:24 |
odyssey4me | I did find https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/requirements-management.html | 17:25 |
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redrobot | ohai release friends... just wondering if the Milestone release process is still the same this cycle ie. ping the Release Liaison and then tag? Or will it require a patch to openstack/releases ? | 19:36 |
dhellmann | redrobot : it's going to involve a patch to releases and then a patch to your repo to edit setup.cfg. I'll be sending email with more details as we get closer to them milestone date | 19:52 |
redrobot | dhellmann awesome, thanks. Just asking because I'm going to be MIA for the Milestone-1 release, and I'll be deferring to one of our core team members for the release. | 19:52 |
dhellmann | redrobot : ok, just have that person let me know so I know the patch is coming from the right source, and we'll help them through the process | 19:53 |
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