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| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/releases: Add a warning for new mitaka releases of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/248530 | 05:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Document an EOL and release dates https://review.openstack.org/247677 | 11:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/releases: Oslo releases for week of Nov 23, 2015 https://review.openstack.org/248391 | 13:06 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: question for you. Someone asked where/if we maintain a list of development deadlines (the common ones and the project-specific ones) for other communities to more easily coordinate with us. Something that would list the Cinder driver proposal mitaka deadline or the Nova spec mitaka deadline. I was considering creating a new wiki page for teams to dump that but suddenly wondered if we | 13:33 |
| ttx | should not somehow reuse the official page (for things following the cycle at least) | 13:33 |
| ttx | I see two potential issues: vandalism on the reference information there (which used ot be protected by admin rights), and accidental display glitches as the syntax on that table is a bit messy. One middle way would be to add the project-specific deadlines as paragraphs below the main table | 13:36 |
| jroll | ttx: we could move that page to somewhere on docs.o.o, for the sake of code review (and it's prettier!) | 13:41 |
| ttx | we could/should (we try to remove all reference information from the wiki) | 13:42 |
| ttx | I guess we could make that a part of docs.openstack.org/releases | 13:43 |
| jroll | that seems like the right place for it, yeah :) | 13:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Graham Hayes proposed openstack/reno: Add deprecations section to release notes https://review.openstack.org/247704 | 14:08 |
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| dhellmann | ttx, jroll : I like the idea of moving the schedule over to the releases repo and then encouraging teams to add their own dates to the schedule | 14:27 |
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| xylan_kong | dhellmann: hi, do we need to cherry pick the adding reno changes to stable branch? or just add something like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241322/ in Glance? | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | xylan_kong : originally I thought we just needed the note, but then we decided we needed to run the release notes build job on the stable branch too so we don't commit notes there that break the build on the master branch. So, please backport the tox.ini and other changes to add the release notes build *and* add an initial note | 15:53 |
| dhellmann | xylan_kong : I've documented this more clearly in a patch to the project team guide: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244279/ | 15:54 |
| xylan_kong | dhellmann: ok, got it, thanks for the info | 15:56 |
| dhellmann | xylan_kong : sure, sorry the initial instructions were a little confusing | 15:56 |
| xylan_kong | dhellmann: that's fine, beginning is always the most difficult stage for perfect | 15:57 |
| xylan_kong | :-) | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 15:58 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I like the idea too | 16:04 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I just fear that will delay the info being accessible | 16:04 |
| ttx | but I guess that can be done reasonably fast. And I might need a weekend project to keep busy while you're hurting turkeys | 16:05 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: actually, we have some paté for thanksgiving this year instead of cooking turkey for just the 2 of us ;-) | 16:52 |
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| AJaeger | dhellmann: do you have a few minutes to discuss your reno change? | 18:03 |
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| dhellmann | AJaeger : sure | 18:13 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: I'm looking at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/reno/tree/reno/utils.py#n26 | 18:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: add complex formatting example https://review.openstack.org/248861 | 18:14 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : ok | 18:14 |
| AJaeger | Don't the try and except return different types? | 18:14 |
| AJaeger | This is unrelated to your change 246583, so I'll change my -1 to a +2 now ;) Just wanted that to have looked at... | 18:15 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : you are right for python3, they do seem to return different t ypes | 18:16 |
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| dhellmann | python 2 always returns a str() but python 3 try returns a byte string and the except clause returns unicode | 18:16 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: Do you want to patch this as part of 246583? | 18:17 |
| dhellmann | yeah, let me work on that | 18:17 |
| AJaeger | I wasn't completely sure whether those are different, thanks for confirming it | 18:17 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: btw. the release-notes post job was broken for stable branches, jeblair, clarkb, and myself discused Friday a fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248256/ | 18:19 |
| AJaeger | right now, it will just fail on stable branches but once that is in, it publishes there as well... | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : ok, thanks for fixing that | 18:19 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : I'm going to go find some lunch, but I'll work on that reno fix again this week | 18:20 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: then let me remove my +2 again;) | 18:21 |
| AJaeger | Enjoy lunch! | 18:21 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: did you see the nova discussion on Friday about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247705/1 ? That release-note was badly formatted and looked really ugly. Having a good way to check formatting would be great - but I have no idea right now and wonder if it's possible at all. | 18:27 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : https://review.openstack.org/248861 | 18:28 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : yeah, it's possible, you just have to escape the rst | 18:28 |
| AJaeger | thanks, dhellmann, I'll check.. | 18:30 |
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| mriedem | dhellmann: what do you think about integrating reno with client libraries, like novaclient and glanceclient? good/bad idea based on the branch model? seems it could be done as long as applying release notes against tags rather than branches | 19:08 |
| mriedem | i noticed that novaclient's changelog is super stale | 19:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Fabio Giannetti proposed openstack/releases: Add Monasca to the Kilo deliverables https://review.openstack.org/248882 | 19:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: scan all changes and filter on files in reno not git log https://review.openstack.org/246584 | 19:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: add verbose and quiet options to command line for debugging https://review.openstack.org/246582 | 19:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: force the right return type for mocked urandom https://review.openstack.org/246583 | 19:17 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : I anticipated that we would use it for the clients, too. | 19:17 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : ^^ | 19:17 |
| dhellmann | (for the patches) | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | mriedem: I'm using it for openstack-doc-tools already - not a client, just a library... | 19:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno: add complex formatting example https://review.openstack.org/248861 | 19:19 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: looks fine now, thanks! ttx, do you want to approve 246583 now? | 19:30 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : thanks | 19:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Fabio Giannetti proposed openstack/releases: Add Monasca to the Kilo deliverables https://review.openstack.org/248882 | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: release keystonemiddleware 1.5.3 for stable/kilo https://review.openstack.org/247553 | 19:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: Add a warning for new mitaka releases of oslo.messaging https://review.openstack.org/248530 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/releases: Oslo releases for week of Nov 23, 2015 https://review.openstack.org/248391 | 20:15 |
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| dims | dhellmann : yes, the classifiers do not have 2.6 now | 20:24 |
| dims | dhellmann : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248391/ | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | dims : ok, cool | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | dims : harlowja also had questions about the versions there, did you work that out? | 20:24 |
| dims | thanks, i'll dropped taskflow and tooz per harlowja. i'll get started on that in a bit | 20:24 |
| dims | y | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | k | 20:26 |
| dims | let me check on zuul and gate status before i roll these out :) | 20:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add release notes links https://review.openstack.org/248899 | 20:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add release notes links https://review.openstack.org/248899 | 20:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joshua Harlow proposed openstack/releases: Tooz and taskflow releases for week of Nov 23, 2015 https://review.openstack.org/248910 | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Oslo releases for week of Nov 23, 2015 https://review.openstack.org/248391 | 21:31 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'm still a bit confused — whether I should add reno to murano-dashboard/client/agent or whether I should just keep it all the notes in murano itself. Sry for bringing it up again, but what is the best way to do it? (I've noticed, that none of the client repos still have reno configured =/) | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/releases: keystonemiddleware 2.3.2 (liberty) https://review.openstack.org/248926 | 22:03 |
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| dhellmann | kzaitsev_mb : each deliverable should have its own release notes | 22:10 |
| dhellmann | kzaitsev_mb : I'll be sending another reminder this week about client releases and adding reno there | 22:10 |
| kzaitsev_mb | and deliverable is something that get's packaged, right? | 22:11 |
| dhellmann | kzaitsev_mb : things that share a version number and are released together, even if in separate packages | 22:11 |
| dhellmann | so you might have one for murano & the dashboard, and a separate one for the client | 22:11 |
| dhellmann | or those might be 3 different deliverables, if you release them separately | 22:12 |
| dhellmann | make sense? | 22:12 |
| dhellmann | kzaitsev_mb : I don't see a "murano" deliverable in the releases repository, so I don't know whether that's part of a multi-repo deliverable or if it was just not recorded | 22:15 |
| kzaitsev_mb | murano itself and it's dashboard do share its versions, although with the new release system we might be releaseing them more or less separately, so I guess separate release notes would make sense | 22:16 |
| kzaitsev_mb | dhellmann: I guess I should fix that ommission | 22:17 |
| dhellmann | kzaitsev_mb : yeah, I'm not sure why it wasn't included. Possibly because it wasn't managed by the release team, before. | 22:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/releases: keystonemiddleware 2.3.2 (liberty) https://review.openstack.org/248926 | 22:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/releases: keystonemiddleware 2.3.2 (liberty) https://review.openstack.org/248926 | 22:23 |
| kzaitsev_mb | oh, yeah, now everything makes a lot more sense =) | 22:24 |
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| kzaitsev_mb | I'll also update the list with 1.0.1 release, as I probably should have done long ago. | 22:25 |
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