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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: python-swiftclient 2.7.0 release https://review.openstack.org/253713 | 07:26 |
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| dims_ | notmyname : 2.7.0 of swiftclient is out | 07:28 |
| notmyname | dims_: just saw that. thanks | 07:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/releases: Force basepython=python2.7 https://review.openstack.org/253315 | 07:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Force basepython=python2.7 https://review.openstack.org/253315 | 07:50 |
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| ttx | Releasing keystone/liberty 8.0.1 | 12:53 |
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| ttx | erm. Looks like the reno notes inclusion in announce.sh is catching a lot more than it should. Also points to Pypi when it should not. | 13:09 |
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| ttx | sent email so that it doesn't get lost | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/releases: Release openstackdocstheme 1.2.6 https://review.openstack.org/255906 | 14:30 |
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| sdague | dims_ / lifeless / mriedem if we don't do this - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255245 then we need to delete the assert:support-upgrade from nova | 14:51 |
| dims_ | sdague : or revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243255/ | 14:55 |
| mriedem | sdague: but, the argument is going to be that upper-constraints in liberty is oslo.middleware is 2.10.0 | 14:55 |
| sdague | dims_: sure | 14:56 |
| mriedem | so people on liberty shouldn't pick up oslo.middleware 3.0 | 14:56 |
| sdague | mriedem: upper constraints isn't burried in all the source trees | 14:56 |
| mriedem | sdague: i made that argument weeks ago and was shot down | 14:56 |
| sdague | mriedem: ok, well I guess I don't understand then | 14:56 |
| mriedem | u-c shields us upstream in a comfy womb of ci glory | 14:57 |
| mriedem | it doesn't help the guy that git clones nova and pip installs it | 14:57 |
| sdague | it also means that no one can ever fix a security issue in any library | 14:57 |
| dims_ | mriedem : revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243255/ would work right? | 14:57 |
| sdague | dims_: it would | 14:57 |
| sdague | however, I'm not sure why the cap isn't fine in this circumstance | 14:58 |
| dims_ | k will wait for discussion to finish :) | 14:58 |
| sdague | except for philosophical reasons | 14:58 |
| mriedem | won't you just be as broken when you upgrade from liberty to mitaka? | 14:58 |
| sdague | mriedem: nope | 14:58 |
| sdague | because in liberty the default configs have this | 14:58 |
| sdague | and in liberty you had the warning | 14:58 |
| sdague | which meant you are now responsible to change your liberty configs post upgrade to remove that | 14:59 |
| sdague | before you upgrade to mitaka | 14:59 |
| mriedem | ah i see | 14:59 |
| mriedem | no deprecation warning in kilo | 14:59 |
| sdague | mriedem: right, that was the crux of the issue | 14:59 |
| mriedem | so you move up to liberty + oslo.middleware 3 and you're broken | 14:59 |
| sdague | it got forgotten | 14:59 |
| sdague | mriedem: yes | 15:00 |
| sdague | which is what grenade demonstrates | 15:00 |
| mriedem | so let me find the thread, if there was one, where i was questioning the u-c stuff | 15:00 |
| sdague | and why upper-constraints in liberty is currently blocked | 15:00 |
| mriedem | prometheanfire actually raised it as a packager concern | 15:00 |
| mriedem | starts here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/077162.html | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | so basically i think we were told, deployers will have to be conscious of upper-constraints and rely on that for max versions of things, even though it's in a separate repo outside the code you're packaging/deploying/pip installing | 15:03 |
| mriedem | i personally think that sucks | 15:03 |
| mriedem | so to avoid rat-holing, maybe we just revert the oslo.middleware thing, blacklist oslo.middleware 3.0.0 and 3.1.0, release the revert in 3.2.0, and then remove it after liberty-eol | 15:05 |
| mriedem | dims_: ^ you're going to have to get used to living with a lot of stuff for a long time.... | 15:06 |
| dims_ | mriedem : y, let me see if there's anything smaller than a revert Matt | 15:07 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I'm currently watching that repo/branch for when it gets merged/updates | 15:14 |
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| dims_ | sdague : mriedem : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255952/ - will this be enough? | 16:04 |
| sdague | mriedem: we were removing the namespacing for a reason | 16:04 |
| sdague | namespaces in python packages work very oddly some times | 16:04 |
| sdague | and they are recommended to not be used | 16:05 |
| mriedem | yeah i'm fine with all that | 16:05 |
| mriedem | sdague: then i think if we want to stay the course with the backwards compat and u-c stuff lifeless is driving, we got with the shim dims_ is proposing, blacklist the bad oslo.middleware versions, and wait to remove the namespace stuff after liberty-eol | 16:07 |
| sdague | yeh, I suppose that's fine | 16:08 |
| sdague | the cap didn't seem that bad of a deal, but we can bring back the namespace if that's what you like better | 16:08 |
| mriedem | as i've said before, i'm all for caps | 16:08 |
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| mriedem | i think u-c shields us upstream from downstream pain | 16:08 |
| mriedem | but this is the alternative - the backward compat shims | 16:09 |
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| prometheanfire | diskimagebuilder only seems to work on rhel/deb/ubuntu/suse? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/diskimage-builder/ | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases: Release openstackdocstheme 1.2.6 https://review.openstack.org/255906 | 18:44 |
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| prometheanfire | are there docs for disk image builder for adding a distro? | 21:01 |
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