Friday, 2016-03-25

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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/releases: Neutron Mitaka RC2 deliverables  https://review.openstack.org/29539800:45
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prometheanfiresi02:20
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prometheanfireI'm packaging keystone mitaka, if there is not a cap here I shouldn't cap it in my package right? https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/mitaka/requirements.txt02:20
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flwanghi anybody can help approve stable/mitaka https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297490/ thanks02:58
patchbotflwang: patch 297490 - zaqar (stable/mitaka) - Warn on upcoming deprecations for v1.0 and v1.102:58
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prometheanfirehow are the openstack server services with py34?05:24
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ttxprometheanfire: there was a recent thread on the ML (about a month ago) on Python 3 support status07:49
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flwangttx: hi can you remind me where can i found the stable/mitaka maintainer team? thanks09:06
ttxflwang: so currently stable/mitaka is a release branch, so that would be the release team + the mitaka PTL09:07
ttxpost-release that will be the $project-stable-maint group in gerrit09:08
flwangttx: but i found i don't have the +2 permission for zaqar stable/mitaka09:08
ttxthat shall be fixed09:08
flwangttx: who? infra team?09:08
ttxchecking09:08
ttxI can probably do it09:08
flwangttx: awesome, thanks09:08
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ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/335,members09:09
ttxfixing09:09
flwangcool, cheers09:10
ttxshoudl be good now. Might take a few minutes or login/.logout to propagate09:11
flwangttx: it works now, thanks a lot09:11
ttxflwang: remember to only approve stuff that merged in master already09:12
ttxthat's the only way to guarantee no regression09:12
flwangttx: yes for sure :)09:12
* ttx goes on a stable/mitaka review spree09:12
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ttxarmax: do you think we could try to sneak in the requirements update into RC2 ?09:40
ttxIt's rechecking right now. If you know you'll do a RC3 anyway we can process the RC2 though09:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Swift 2.7.0 release  https://review.openstack.org/29735209:40
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ttxnotmyname: 2.7.0 tagged. stable/mitaka branch created out of it. master open for next release development.09:47
ttxnotmyname: the automatic announce email went out, you might want to complement it with your highli09:47
ttxghts*09:47
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ttxhmm, not sure there was an announce email after all09:54
skraynevttx: hi. there is on short question: when approximately will be ready schedule for design summit ? Just want to know final number of slots and realize, which day will be busy ;)09:59
ttxskraynev: waiting on the final room layout. Might announce today or Monday10:02
ttxLet me see what the current draft says10:02
ttxAs previously announced you get 4 fishbowl , 8 workroom and half a day Friday10:03
skraynevttx: great. thank you very much10:03
ttxskraynev: In the current layout you have...10:04
ttxwork rooms late Wed afternoon, then fishbowl and workrooms all Thursday10:04
ttxand then the meetup on Friday afternoon10:04
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skraynevttx: thank you very much for this info ;)10:11
ttxnot final but I'd say 99%10:11
ttxsince it took me 12 hours to build10:11
ttxand I don't intend to spend another one tweaking it10:11
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dimsgood morning all10:58
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flwangttx: can you help bless this one https://review.openstack.org/297510 ? the last one for Zaqar RC2 thanks11:07
ttxflwang: done11:14
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* ttx lunches11:15
flwangttx: cheers11:15
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* dims picking up release baton for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297365/ - Keystone mitaka library update releases11:19
patchbotdims: patch 297365 - releases - Keystone mitaka library update releases11:19
dimsttx : ^^11:19
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openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/releases: Release Zaqar Mitaka RC2  https://review.openstack.org/29763611:39
* dims gives up the release baton11:41
* dims picks up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297362/11:52
patchbotdims: patch 297362 - releases - ironic-lib 1.2.011:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: ironic-lib 1.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/29736212:00
dimsdone with ironic-lib12:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Keystone mitaka library update releases  https://review.openstack.org/29736512:13
dhellmannttx, dims: good morning12:15
dimshi dhellmann : 2 reviews merged, spreadsheet updated12:16
dhellmanndims : ack12:24
dhellmanndims , ttx: I spoke with lifeless yesterday, and based on his comments about having the branches with versions > master for a long time I think we should work out what we intend to do for early tags on master soon12:25
dimsdhellmann : cut tags well before RC1?12:26
dhellmanndims : yes, where that's possible12:26
dhellmannwhere we don't have changes on master, it probably doesn't matter12:27
dhellmannI need to catch up on email to see if he had anything else to say12:27
dimsack dhellmann12:30
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: remove unofficial liberty tacker releases  https://review.openstack.org/29766613:22
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: Change openstack-ansible from independent to cycle-with-intermediary  https://review.openstack.org/29729813:26
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ttxdhellmann: yes, added to agenda for meeting13:30
ttxdhellmann: I did not process Neutron RC2 since I wanted to include the req bump13:30
ttxit's now merged. Let's wait for armax and sees if he agrees to add that in13:32
dhellmannagreed13:32
ttxI'd rather have the next tags all be synced requirements-wise13:32
dhellmannright13:33
openstackgerritRoland Hochmuth proposed openstack/releases: Monasca Mitaka deliverables  https://review.openstack.org/29768813:53
ttxwoohoo13:59
ttxbe in the meeting in a minute, biobreak13:59
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/releases: Release OpenStack-Ansible Liberty 12.0.9  https://review.openstack.org/29728514:27
odyssey4medhellmann shouldn't https://review.openstack.org/297298 leave the kilo/11.x release as independent, and just move the liberty releases over? or should I tag further 11.x releases myself?14:30
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odyssey4meEither works - I'm just trying to finalise the situation as I have stakeholders waiting for the Kilo tag.14:37
odyssey4meAn option is that I could tag the Kilo release now, then the release patch is simply for exposure on the releases page. Thoughts?14:38
odyssey4meah, I see you're busy in a meeting - I'll hold14:40
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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/releases: Neutron Mitaka RC2 deliverables  https://review.openstack.org/29539814:52
armaxttx, dhellmann: ^ added the requirement update14:52
dhellmannodyssey4me : yeah, I can help you tag the kilo release by hand14:53
ttxarmax: awesome! Will process14:54
armaxttx: I noticed you +2 two other changes14:54
ttxI +2ed to signal that they landed in master alright14:55
armaxwe could include them in RC2 if you’re ok with them14:55
ttxnot that I think they should be in RC2/RC3 or post-release14:55
armaxttx: ah ok14:55
ttxwell at this stage I'd rather tag it now14:55
odyssey4medhellmann ah, that would be super-helpful - every time I sit at the laptop I get the stink-eye from my wife (I'm supposed to be holidaying) :p14:55
armaxttx: I am with you then14:55
odyssey4meShall I abandon https://review.openstack.org/297274 ?14:55
ttxthan wait for them to exit the pipeline of hell14:55
armaxttx: is that bad?14:55
armax:)14:56
ttxarmax: no, it just would push tagging after hours :)14:56
armaxfair enough14:56
armaxttx: go for it14:56
ttxwilldo as soon as it passes tests14:56
dhellmanndims : heads up: let's hold off on mitaka library releases until monday because of the holiday weekend14:57
armaxttx: thanks!14:57
* ttx does zaqar rc2 in the mean time14:57
dhellmannodyssey4me : send me the repos, shas, and version numbers you want14:57
dimsdhellmann : ack. i am preparing the oslo libs review, but will not process anything14:57
odyssey4medhellmann https://review.openstack.org/297274 :)14:57
ttxquick look at stable/mitaka patch queue14:57
dhellmanndims : sounds good14:57
dhellmannodyssey4me : right, do you want those today or monday?14:58
ttxallset14:58
ttxdhellmann, dims: when processing a RCx, is good to look at the stable/mitaka patch pipeline for that project to see if they are missing a recent translations update or something else that should definitely be in release rather than out14:59
dimsdhellmann : can i ship the oslo ones late night sunday so i can fix problems monday early morning if needed?14:59
odyssey4medhellmann while https://review.openstack.org/297274 can be abandoned in terms of publishing the release (as per meeting discussion), we have a major stakeholder how needs that tag processed today, whereas https://review.openstack.org/297285 can wait until next week14:59
dhellmannttx: ack, good thought14:59
dimsttx : yep good point14:59
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ttxrealized I've been doing it but documented that nowhere15:00
dhellmannttx: yeah, I want us to write a release manager's guide next cycle15:00
dhellmannwe can base it on our notes for liberty and mitaka15:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Release Zaqar Mitaka RC2  https://review.openstack.org/29763615:01
dimsdhellmann : +1 also we need to help non-release managed projects to use our tools as well. example sean ended up with stable/mitaka as a tag following some outdated wiki15:02
fungiin case you missed it in the meeting channel: "okay, stable/mitaka deleted from python-senlinclient. old branch state was at e2c19f4ab5db74e3bc9415bcc2e274fcf7884bcd"15:02
dhellmanndims : yep, we discussed some options for handling unofficial projects in the meeting while you had a conflict15:03
dhellmannfungi : thank you!15:03
fungialso hopefully my clarifications about the merge-release-tags jobs on the ml made sense? just want to make sure we're not talking past each other15:03
dimsthanks sdague15:03
dimsoops thanks dhellmann !15:03
ttxalrigth neutron rc2 is a go15:05
dhellmannfungi : I think I need to look at a real example. I don't understand how the tag object can be merged without the associated commit, or what that ends up looking like in the history. Maybe because no files change, the version is present but there are no reno files so it doesn't matter?15:05
sdakehey folks, i created a gate job for publishing release notes15:05
sdakewhere are master releases notes publisshed?15:06
sdakethe gat ejob merged15:06
sdakeand new patches have hit the repo15:06
fungidhellmann: yeah, i can pull up an example from liberty15:06
dhellmannsdake : docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/$project15:06
sdakehey fungi grats on ptl bro15:06
fungisdake: thanks15:06
dhellmannfungi : that would be good, then I could experiment a bit and stop peppering you with questions :-)15:06
sdakethank dhellmann15:07
dimsfungi : y, congrats!15:07
sdakefungi although as i said before pretty mcuh any core could be ptl and I think infrastructure would still rock ;)15:07
sdakedhellmann cool when i looked yesterday it was n't there15:08
sdakebut its there now: http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/kolla/15:08
dhellmannsdake : if you used the template for the jobs, that should rebuild on each commit to any branch and on any tag15:08
sdakedhellmann yup15:08
sdakedhellmann we used publish-releasenotes-job15:09
fungidhellmann: examples (all have a common topic) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:merge/release-tag15:09
sdakeor whatever that one is15:09
sdakedhellmann i have a folow on quesstion related to another site15:09
sdakemoment15:09
dhellmannsdake : yeah, what you have with release-notes-jobs looks right15:09
sdakedhellmann http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/index.html15:10
dhellmannfungi : thanks!15:10
sdakekolla isnt listed15:10
sdakewhich repo do I submit a change to to get it listed?15:10
dhellmannsdake : did you submit something to openstack/releases?15:10
sdakei have not15:10
sdakei can do so15:10
sdakewhat -does openstack/releses have a docs job which publishes that docuemnt?15:11
fungidhellmann: the ones with the subject saying they are merging a tag are what i was talking about. i'm not sure where those others are coming from...15:11
dhellmannfungi : ok, I'll take a closer look at those next week15:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Neutron Mitaka RC2 deliverables  https://review.openstack.org/29539815:12
dhellmannsdake : yes, there are some yaml files there that we use to tag releases and build the docs for official projects15:12
sdakedhellmann is this a precursor to obtaining the release:managed tag?15:13
sdakei guess i'l just go read the governance repo - thanks :)15:13
dhellmannsdake : you can add the deliverable file(s) for kolla for releases for the period when the project became official15:13
dhellmannsdake : have a look at the readme in openstack/releases15:13
sdakedhellmann will do thanks15:13
sdakewe ahe been in big tent for 10 months15:14
dhellmannok, so you could add liberty and mitaka files if you wanted to15:14
openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/releases: Final set of Oslo Library Releases for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/29772015:15
sdakedhellmann you got it15:18
ttxdhellmann: one topic I forgot to add, newton release schedule15:19
ttxdhellmann: I think we are past the point where we can judge if the post-FF pre-reelase period is long enough15:19
ttxI think it works and taht it's better than the longer one15:20
dhellmannttx: a shorter period may help emphasize that projects should not grant lots of FFEs15:21
ttxi think we should do the same length for Newton.15:21
ttxso your proposal looks good and we should officialize it asap15:21
ttxat least in RFC mode15:22
dhellmannshould we use the patch for comments? I can send email asking folks to look at it and comment if they see issues15:23
ttxI would publish it and ask for final comments15:23
ttxit's not as if people usually have comments15:23
dhellmannok15:23
dhellmanndo you want to approve it, since it's my patch? :-)15:24
ttxthat said, let me coment on the review15:24
ttxI think I prefer 3+5 / 7 / 7 / 515:24
fungidhellmann: looking at https://review.openstack.org/267676 as an example, if you clone openstack/networking-powervm you'll see that `git describe origin/master` says 1.0.0rc1-34-gdf396bc while `git describe origin/stable/liberty` says 1.0.0 but if you `git review -d 267676` then git-describe says 1.0.0-15-g06ae88415:24
ttxyou propose 3+6 / 7 / 6 / 515:24
ttxI think 7 weeks in n-3 is a minimum15:24
dhellmannttx: ok15:24
ttxheh, places n-2 in europython week15:25
ttxwant me to propose the change ?15:26
dhellmannttx: sorry, was fixing the python-senlinclient branch15:27
dhellmannlet me look at that15:27
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dhellmannttx: I'm not sure I understand your notation correctly15:31
ttxpython-senlinclient looks good15:31
ttxnumber of weeks between things. Let me propose it it will be clearer15:31
dhellmannI've moved n-1 to r-19 and n-2 to r-12 but that leaves 7 weeks between n-2 and n-315:32
dhellmannis that what you meant?15:32
ttxyes, n-1 on R-19 and n-2 on R-1215:33
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: fill in the rest of the newton schedule  https://review.openstack.org/27691215:34
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dhellmannI rebased it, too15:34
ttxcan't hurt15:34
ttx+215:35
dhellmannok, I'll wait for the check jobs and approve it, then send email about it15:35
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ttxtaking a break to drive #1 to her cello lesson. Will connect from there15:52
dhellmannack15:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: fill in the rest of the newton schedule  https://review.openstack.org/27691216:09
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prometheanfireI imagine the upgrade guide is still being worked for mitaka?16:12
dhellmannprometheanfire : yeah, you should talk to the folks in #openstack-doc16:14
jroll\o/ for newton schedule16:15
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add note about thursday deadlines  https://review.openstack.org/29775016:23
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ttxback16:30
dhellmannodyssey4me : I've tagged the ansible kilo release 11.2.1216:30
dhellmannttx: I'm going to approve the change to restore the ansible liberty deliverables file so I can process that liberty release, too16:32
ttxdhellmann: sure16:33
dhellmannodyssey4me : you're probably getting an overwhelming amount of bug tracker email right now16:33
ttxdhellmann: I'm trying to regularly review stable/mitaka on managed/milestones-driven stuff, since some things can get stuck there waiting for a second +216:33
dhellmannttx: ok16:33
ttxMy review is usually just checking that the proposed fix is actually merged in master, and then if the PTL +2ed it I approve it16:34
dhellmannmakes sense16:34
ttxI'll probably skip that task on Monday so would be good if you could keep an eye on it then16:35
dhellmannwe have a large angry bee in the house, so I'll be right back16:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Change openstack-ansible from independent to cycle-with-intermediary  https://review.openstack.org/29729816:37
amrithhey guys, dhellmann hasn't been back for 20 or so minutes ... I hope he's alright :) Bees can be nasty especially when they invite their friends and families ...16:56
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ttxhmm17:05
dimslol17:08
ttxnervous lol17:08
dimsdhellmann : come back to let us know you are ok :)17:11
ttxok, weekend17:11
* amrith hopes the bee didn't attempt to pay dhellmann back for all the bugs he's squashed (and bugs that were never born because of his diligence)17:12
dimshave a good weekend ttx17:12
amrithgood weekend ttx17:12
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redrobothi release friends.  we've found a critical bug in Barbican and will need to spin an RC217:28
redrobothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/156209117:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1562091 in Barbican "Wrong table name in alembic version" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Christopher Solis (cnsolis)17:28
dhellmannamrith, dims, ttx: crisis averted and lunch acquired17:29
amrith:)17:29
dhellmannredrobot : noted, go ahead and put together the deliverable file patch when you're ready17:29
amrithdeep breaths, deep breaths17:29
dimsdhellmann : yay17:30
dougwigdhellmann: are g-r patches still -2'ed on purpose, or are those open for newton yet?17:34
dhellmanndougwig : not yet, early next week17:34
dougwigdhellmann: ok, thanks.17:35
dhellmanndougwig : we just branched the requirements repo, and I want to get the lib releases out before we start changing other requirements (small team, minimize parallelism)17:35
dougwigdhellmann: no worries, i know cutting the release is a ton of work, so i'm happy to wait.  :)17:36
dhellmannthanks, just sharing so it doesn't seem like "ugh, when!?" :)17:36
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: fix the way we list changes that will not be included  https://review.openstack.org/29778717:45
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odyssey4methanks dhellmann - a lot of emails, for sure!17:56
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: fix a logic error that results in undefined variable being used  https://review.openstack.org/29481118:16
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add validation check for independent modules  https://review.openstack.org/29481018:16
dhellmannAJaeger : regarding the link to docs vs. docs release notes -- I was going to just link to the documentation, and let folks who wanted the release notes for that find it from the main documentation page. I guess we could place both links there, but it feels odd to put the docs release notes link at the top of the page by itself18:18
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add link to Mitaka documentation  https://review.openstack.org/29500018:18
AJaegerdhellmann: could you discuss with Lana, please? For other projects you list to releasenotes - perhaps we need both?18:21
dhellmannAJaeger : sure. Let's do that on the review.18:22
AJaegerok18:23
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add link to Mitaka documentation  https://review.openstack.org/29500018:43
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dhellmannjroll : what's the plan for that bifrost release?19:01
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jrolldhellmann: I'm told it was done already O_o19:28
jrollyep, has a stable/mitaka branch19:29
dhellmannso, was there a release?19:29
jrollyes19:29
jrollhttps://github.com/openstack/bifrost/tree/1.0.019:29
dhellmannhttp://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/index.html shows 0.1.019:29
jrolloh ouch, it wasn't done through releases repo19:30
dhellmannjroll: are you ptl again next cycle?19:30
jrollyep19:30
dhellmannok, I'm going to institute a policy that each team should have exactly one release liaison next cycle19:30
jrollTheJulia manages bifrost things, I can bug her to make sure this is done right19:30
dhellmannI have 50 teams to keep up with, I can't keep up with more liaisons than teams19:30
jrollyeah, I've been bad about keeping up19:30
jrollunderstood19:31
dhellmannyeah, not scolding, just giving you a heads-up so you can plan19:31
dhellmannI should announce that broadly before the summit, and I will19:31
jrollfor sure19:31
dhellmannin fact I'll do that now19:31
jrollso - given this tag/branch seems to have been pushed manually19:32
jrollwhat's the best way to fix it? propose the release but kill the jobs somehow?19:32
dhellmanngo ahead and submit the releases repo patch, the jobs skip over tags that already exist19:32
jrollok, cool19:32
openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/releases: bifrost 1.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/29783119:33
jrollthere's that19:33
jrollgoing to fix acls as well19:34
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jrolldhellmann: acl changes: https://review.openstack.org/29783419:37
dhellmannjroll : thanks19:38
jrollnp19:38
jrollsorry for the bother :(19:38
dhellmannnp, I'm glad it was handled :-)19:38
jrolldhellmann: oh, https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml#L191920:08
jrollno release:managed there, that's what happened20:08
konghi, dhellmann, for the project following the cycle-with-milestone model, is it necessary to have rc2 release after has a rc1 one?20:09
dhellmannjroll : ah, sure20:09
dhellmannkong : you only need a second release candidate if you have fixed any bugs, or imported any translations20:10
dhellmannkong : your final release must be made from an existing release candidate, so if you have any patches in your stable branch that are not in a release candidate, you should ask for another candidate20:10
kongdhellmann: so, anyway, we have to do a final release for mitaka, if some bugfix patches merged after rc1, right?20:11
jrolldhellmann: okay, so I'll chat with julia and decide if she'd rather manage those herself or add the tag20:12
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add release notes links for mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/29784020:12
dhellmannjroll : next cycle we'll be doing them for all official projects20:12
jrolldhellmann: ah, okay, that answers that :)20:12
dhellmannkong : yes, but see my earlier comment: we will tag an existing release candidate as your final, so if you have any updates you need a new release candidate20:13
kongdhellmann: ok, got it, thanks! what's the deadline for rc2?20:13
dhellmannjroll : I'll be making that announcement next week20:13
dhellmannkong : next thursday20:13
jrollcool20:13
jrollthank you :)20:13
kongdhellmann: appreciate your answer :-)20:13
dhellmannkong : see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090512.html20:13
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/releases: bifrost 1.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/29784420:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: bifrost 1.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/29783120:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Monasca Mitaka deliverables  https://review.openstack.org/29768821:03
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