Thursday, 2016-05-05

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skraynevttx: hi. who can help me with one question about release notes (reno) ?08:02
skraynevttx: I remember, that somebody told me, that it should be focused only on operators/deployers. so I want to know: what about users and how we need to notify them about new merged features?08:03
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odyssey4meskraynev as I recall that messaging was specifically targeted at libraries and how they use reno10:15
odyssey4meso as I understand it if you want to note a new feature, reno has a 'feature' topic10:15
odyssey4methe point is really that release notes should be focused at the operators/deployers - they can then carry the message over to end users10:16
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed openstack/releases: Add a deliverable for puppet-tripleo  https://review.openstack.org/31294713:31
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases: newton: release oslo.versionedobjects 1.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/31296713:54
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/releases: tripleo-puppet-elements 3.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/30855514:28
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/releases: Add tripleo-puppet-elements deliverable  https://review.openstack.org/30855414:28
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dhellmannskraynev , odyssey4me : right, the idea is to not document features that only someone working with the code will see14:45
dhellmannskraynev : if you have a specific example I may be able to give better guidance14:45
skraynevdhellmann: I worried about patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135492/14:47
patchbotskraynev: patch 135492 - heat - Add support for a resource level external_id14:47
skraynevit looks like a really big and important change, but it does not look like a deployer affecting thing14:48
dhellmannskraynev : api changes like that would be worth having a release note for14:48
dhellmannthe "deployers only" comment was related to libraries, not services14:48
skraynevawesome14:49
dhellmannservices should document things deployers and users will see14:49
skraynevgot it14:49
skraynevthank you14:49
dhellmanncool14:49
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/releases: Release OpenStack-Ansible Kilo/11.2.15  https://review.openstack.org/31302815:47
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odyssey4medhellmann if you have a minute could you take a look at tagging https://review.openstack.org/313028 for us?16:00
dhellmannodyssey4me : there's an infra issue preventing builds so we put releases on hiatus this week -- oh, wait, you don't build artifacts, do you?16:02
odyssey4medhellmann nope, not at all - only docs and reno's16:02
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dhellmannok, I'll go ahead and process it then16:04
odyssey4methanks16:05
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dhellmannodyssey4me : is that a mitaka update?16:05
dhellmannor older?16:05
odyssey4medhellmann no, it's kilo16:06
dhellmannok16:08
dhellmannthe tag is applied16:08
dhellmannthere are a lot of bugs showing up as included in this. I suspect we have a bug in our logic for figuring out which bugs are related to a release16:09
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dhellmannodyssey4me : ^^16:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Release OpenStack-Ansible Kilo/11.2.15  https://review.openstack.org/31302816:15
odyssey4medhellmann yeah, I do suspect so - I've seen bugs being commented on multiple times for sequential releases...16:21
odyssey4meis it something to do with us being an independent cycle?16:22
dhellmannodyssey4me : possibly. I'll have a look at that code after lunch and see if I can tell what's going on16:25
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dhellmannodyssey4me : I think in this case it may be a combination of user error on my part and the fact that your kilo branch is just "kilo" and not "stable/kilo"17:16
odyssey4medhellmann ah, of course17:18
odyssey4mewe have that unfortunate situation which trips things up from time to time17:19
dhellmannalthough I think I just found a way to work around it in the script17:19
odyssey4meoh awesome, I have another set of release requests coming through shortly - just in time to test :)17:19
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/releases: Release OpenStack-Ansible Liberty/12.0.12  https://review.openstack.org/31307417:24
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools: fix the way we detect the previous version in release.sh  https://review.openstack.org/31307517:24
dhellmannodyssey4me : I'm going to need to do something about the fact that we assume new releases are at the end of files, too :-)17:25
odyssey4medhellmann yeah, it's going to come up again - even once we switch models as requested in https://review.openstack.org/29729717:26
dhellmannyeah, I think we're going to address that by having you put files in the series directories, but we'll flag them somehow so they don't show up on the series pages17:27
dhellmannwe still have to work out the details for that17:27
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/releases: Release OpenStack-Ansible Mitaka/13.0.2  https://review.openstack.org/31307817:37
odyssey4me^ that one will fail because the previous one in the chain is not done yet17:38
odyssey4meactually, I suppose I don't have to chain them as they won't conflict17:38
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/releases: Release OpenStack-Ansible Mitaka/13.0.2  https://review.openstack.org/31307817:40
mriedemis there a fix up for this? http://logs.openstack.org/45/312245/1/gate/gate-releases-tox-validate/004d9ea/console.html#_2016-05-05_14_08_17_45317:47
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: Add Nova-specific milestones to the Newton release schedule  https://review.openstack.org/31224518:13
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: move sahara-tests deliverable file with the other independent projects  https://review.openstack.org/31309318:13
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odyssey4medhellmann if you could try and process https://review.openstack.org/313074 and https://review.openstack.org/313078 some time today it'd be appreciated18:45
dhellmannodyssey4me : looking18:46
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dhellmannodyssey4me : for 13.0.2, do you not want to update that to 13.1.0 because of the dependency changes and the patch "Updates all SHAs for..."?18:50
dhellmannthe new paramiko minimum version is usually something that triggers a minor version update for us elsewhere18:51
odyssey4medhellmann no, we do this every two weeks as a standard process18:51
dhellmannok, how about the paramiko change?18:51
odyssey4methe paramiko change only changes for the deployment host, so it's not a major change for us18:52
dhellmannyou're raising the minimum version18:52
dhellmannodyssey4me : in the other projects when the minimum version of a dependency is raised we ask them to raise the minor version number to indicate that there may be more to upgrading than just installing the new code. I think the same should apply here.18:52
odyssey4methis would be an issue if we were being packaged, but we aren't - our deployment uses pip to install which takes the highest version available as a default18:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: Release OpenStack-Ansible Liberty/12.0.12  https://review.openstack.org/31307418:53
dhellmannodyssey4me : I would like to avoid having exceptions to all of our rules. It makes this review process much simpler.18:53
odyssey4meyeah, that makes sense18:53
odyssey4meI'm working on updating our release tooling to do fixed requirements instead of using lower and upper bounds as it keeps deployments far more consistent.18:54
dhellmannthat makes sense, assuming your playbooks aren't installed along side anyone else's with conflicting requirements18:55
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odyssey4meyeah, we're moving more and more to using venvs for just about everything to negate that problem18:56
odyssey4meunfortunately there are some things that still need to go into the system packages18:56
dhellmannyeah18:56
odyssey4meall the openstack services goe into venvs already18:56
dhellmannah, cool18:56
odyssey4merumour has it you have some funky tooling for venvs18:56
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odyssey4medhellmann is the rule for incrementing the version described somewhere? I need to include it in a commit message19:12
dhellmannodyssey4me : I wrote a script at Dreamhost to let us package openstack components into debs using relocatable virtualenvs. I think there's a python tool now that does something similar, but mine was just a bash script that made a few sed calls and a few other cleanups19:13
dhellmannodyssey4me : we more or less follow http://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/semver.html with the dependency version thing as an add-on. let me see if we wrote that down somewhere else...19:14
odyssey4medhellmann found it in https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/README.rst19:15
odyssey4memore specifically https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/README.rst#reviewing-a-release-request19:15
dhellmannah, yes, that's it19:16
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting to address performance issues related to a suspected memory leak19:22
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add initial release dates to series table  https://review.openstack.org/31313319:53
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting to revert incorrect changes to test result displays20:30
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases: add team pages  https://review.openstack.org/31316421:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases: move sahara-tests deliverable file with the other independent projects  https://review.openstack.org/31309321:52
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/releases: Release OpenStack-Ansible Mitaka/13.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/31307822:11
odyssey4medhellmann ^ updated as requested22:11
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