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mordred | dhellmann, ttx, dims, smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/498634 and https://review.openstack.org/498623 may be interesting to you - I've started working on making v3 versions of the jobs that run on the release node today | 01:12 |
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mordred | dhellmann, ttx, dims, smcginnis: no action needed - mostly just letting you know patches were up in case you're interested | 01:12 |
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robcresswell | smcginnis, dhellmann: Horizon was all ready to go with that last tag I put up. Didn't see messages to confirm unfortunately, it was half 10 :) If you need anything else, please let me know. | 06:48 |
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claudiub|2 | dhellmann: hello. around for a few seconds? | 08:19 |
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ttx | claudiub|2: Doug won't be around until ~4-5 hours. Anythign I can help with ? | 08:34 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: run commands without buffered I/O https://review.openstack.org/498261 | 08:35 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: modernize propose-final-releases command https://review.openstack.org/498262 | 08:37 |
claudiub|2 | ttx: ah, i see. yep, I need some advice. As you know, a few years ago, the neutron vendor decomposition happened, and thus, quite a few new projects were born, including networking-hyperv. When it was to make to make a release for that cycle for networking-hyperv, pretty much every networking-* project followed the release version number at that time, which was 2015.x.y. | 08:38 |
claudiub|2 | after which, the versioning changed to what it is right now | 08:38 |
claudiub|2 | ttx: now, the problem is this: networking-hyperv==2015.1.0 has been published to pypi as well | 08:39 |
claudiub|2 | and when people upgrade their networking-hyperv via: pip install -U networking-hyperv, it "upgrades" to 2015.1.0 | 08:39 |
claudiub|2 | and i think it's also the same with pip install networking-hyperv, if no version is installed, (2015.1.0 is seen as the latest version). | 08:40 |
ttx | Is pip a common way to install networking-hyperv ? | 08:40 |
claudiub|2 | ttx: now the question is: do you think it's ok / safe to remove 2015.1.0 from pypi? | 08:40 |
ttx | That's a good question, and yes we should include dhellmann in that discussion. I remember we had that discussion in the past too | 08:41 |
claudiub|2 | ttx: from what I've seen, yes. And it's a very common mistake that people do: installing networking-hyperv==2015.1.0 | 08:41 |
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ttx | Since it may affect more than just networking-hyperv, would be great to turn your question into a thread, we'll reply there for the benefit of everyone | 08:42 |
ttx | It's not really a new issue or somethign specific to Pike, so no absolute urgency in getting an answer | 08:42 |
claudiub|2 | sure, sounds good. is the [release] tag ok? | 08:42 |
ttx | you can use [relmgt] since it's more a release management team question than a "Pike release" issue | 08:43 |
ttx | we use [release] for current cycle messaging | 08:43 |
ttx | claudiub|2: thx! | 08:44 |
claudiub|2 | i see. thanks! | 08:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Lingxian Kong proposed openstack/releases master: Release Mistral Pike RC2 https://review.openstack.org/498785 | 12:22 |
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dhellmann | ttx, dims, smcginnis : o/ | 12:35 |
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ttx | dhellmann: o/ | 12:37 |
ttx | I sent the day-1 email pointing to the review | 12:38 |
dhellmann | ah, good | 12:43 |
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dims | dhellmann : ttx : smcginnis : o/ | 12:49 |
smcginnis | o/ | 12:49 |
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dims | thanks mordred | 13:14 |
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dhellmann | ttx, claudiub|2 : I think in the past we only dealt with the problem for distro packages, and they just increment the epoch value. I don't think we ever used versions like that for oslo libraries or clients, did we? | 13:20 |
ttx | dhellmann: no we didn't | 13:21 |
ttx | We had a few things using YYYY.SEQ numbering on Pypi, but those were mostly errors (like nova being uploaded there) | 13:21 |
dhellmann | right, that's what I remember | 13:23 |
ttx | If Pypi is a viable distribution mechanism for some networking-* things and they inherited 2015.1 from neutron, that might be a valid case of version removal | 13:23 |
ttx | not really cancelling that release, just making sure that pip doesn't serve it | 13:23 |
dhellmann | that's really frowned upon, but it may be the only solution here | 13:23 |
dhellmann | I suppose we could re-tag using non-date versions | 13:24 |
dhellmann | though if the release isn't supported, maybe that's not worth it | 13:24 |
ttx | yeah, let's make it a thread to make sure we hear from everyone | 13:24 |
dhellmann | was claudiub|2 going to start that? | 13:25 |
ttx | yes | 13:25 |
dhellmann | ok | 13:25 |
ttx | also not really an urgent thing, the problem exists since 2015 | 13:25 |
dhellmann | true | 13:25 |
smcginnis | I'm surprised it hasn't become a bigger issue before now. | 13:26 |
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ttx | probably not a very common distribution mechanism | 13:26 |
ttx | distros sidestep it with epoch numbers | 13:26 |
ttx | so only a problem if you rely on pip to install them | 13:27 |
claudiub|2 | smcginnis: i'm only raising the question now because i'm tired of answering the same answer to people saying that it doesn't work. :D | 13:27 |
smcginnis | claudiub|2: Yeah, definitely. :) | 13:29 |
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ttx | smcginnis or dhellmann: could you review and approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480513/ ? been lingering for 2 months | 13:31 |
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dhellmann | ttx: done. while we're at it: https://review.openstack.org/497589 | 13:32 |
smcginnis | Am I supposed to have +2/+A for project-team-guide? | 13:33 |
dhellmann | I don't think that's automatic but you seem like a swell guy so I can add you | 13:33 |
dhellmann | done | 13:34 |
ttx | dhellmann: I left that one out because I knew it would merge-conflict with the other I just approved | 13:38 |
dhellmann | ah | 13:38 |
dhellmann | ttx: rebased | 13:40 |
smcginnis | dhellmann: Haha, thanks. :) | 13:40 |
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smcginnis | Is the plan to wait for all PTLs for the "final Pike" patch? Or just hope to get as many as possible before tomorrow? | 15:52 |
dhellmann | we usually just hope to get as many as we can | 15:52 |
dims | ++ dhellmann | 15:53 |
dhellmann | the final release needs to be done before the press release embargo time | 15:53 |
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smcginnis | When is that exactly? | 15:53 |
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dims | "Pike will be formally released tomorrow before 1500utc" smcginnis | 15:55 |
dhellmann | ah, right, thanks dims | 15:55 |
dhellmann | I was going to remove my -2 today in case some early birds wanted to take care of the release first thing tomorrow | 15:56 |
ttx | press release goes out at 10am CT, we try to be done before that | 15:56 |
dhellmann | I can go ahead and do tha tnow | 15:56 |
smcginnis | OK. So should we wrap it up this evening to make sure there aren't any hiccups, or first thing in the morning? | 15:56 |
ttx | first thing in the morning | 15:56 |
ttx | I can even run stuff on low tide gate (EU morning) | 15:57 |
dhellmann | ttx: do you want to schedule something more specific for us to meet here? | 15:57 |
ttx | if we feel lucky | 15:57 |
dhellmann | we usually like to have someone from infra standing by in case there are issues with the job | 15:57 |
ttx | dhellmann: IIRC the process now goes pretty fast ? Just piles up a lot of jobs | 15:57 |
smcginnis | Low tide sounds good. :) | 15:57 |
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dhellmann | yeah, I think that's true | 15:58 |
ttx | let's see how early we can make it | 15:58 |
ttx | fungi: when can you be around tomorrow morning to keep an eye on the release jobpile ? | 15:58 |
ttx | I mean how early can you be around | 15:58 |
ttx | Feels like we could start around 1300utc and be more than fully done by 1500utc | 15:58 |
ttx | I'm just slightly worried 1300utc is no longer low tide :) | 15:59 |
dhellmann | no, that feels late | 15:59 |
ttx | OK, you tell me. I'll be up anyway | 15:59 |
fungi | i can get to bed early and skip tc office hour | 15:59 |
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dhellmann | I was going to get up early to try to be around for 1100utc | 16:00 |
dhellmann | you won't know I'm still in my pajamas anyway | 16:00 |
fungi | my schedule's pretty open tomorrow so yeah 11:00z wfm | 16:00 |
clarkb | fungi: that would be much appreciated so I don't have to be up around 4am :) | 16:00 |
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ttx | I'll be there at 11:00z for sure. I don't think we need that many more people | 16:01 |
ttx | It's just pushing buttons and praying | 16:01 |
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ttx | and 11:00z is definitely low tide | 16:01 |
dhellmann | yeah, last time it was pretty anticlimactic | 16:01 |
ttx | OK, let's say 11z, I'll have early lunch | 16:01 |
ttx | I'll draft the release email in the morning | 16:02 |
fungi | i only really need to be awake by 10:30z so i can grab coffee and stumble toward the computer | 16:02 |
ttx | fungi: you only need to be awake if something goes wrong | 16:02 |
fungi | if i'm not especially awake, odds are something will go wrong | 16:03 |
fungi | this is insurance that you won't actually need me | 16:03 |
ttx | agree, murphy's law | 16:03 |
dhellmann | like carrying an umbrella | 16:03 |
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ttx | all under control I think | 16:06 |
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fungi | even the release rush seems to be dying down. zuul is caught up with its backlog at this point | 16:08 |
fungi | node utilization has already started dropping for the day | 16:09 |
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EmilienM | dhellmann: good morning! quick question, is it possible to give multiple projects to "tox -e venv -- new-release" or should I do one by one? | 16:26 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : I think today it's only 1 by 1, since you need to specify the type of release | 16:27 |
EmilienM | ok excellent | 16:27 |
EmilienM | thanks! | 16:27 |
dhellmann | there is another command that's more interactive that may do what you want, but I haven't used that one | 16:27 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : interactive-release | 16:27 |
dhellmann | I don't think we have many docs for that, though | 16:28 |
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EmilienM | dhellmann: I'll give it a try! | 16:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release new tags for Tripleo (Newton) https://review.openstack.org/498865 | 16:44 |
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EmilienM | if someone here has 2 minute for a very quick review - I'm proposing to use Python to compute the release version for some TripleO projects who didn't do that until now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498882/ - the result is here: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/82/498882/1/check/gate-tripleo-heat-templates-releasenotes/2cd0973//releasenotes/build/html/ - can someone say if I missed something? | 17:26 |
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dhellmann | EmilienM : looking | 17:41 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : that works fine. You could also leave the version field blank, since the release notes document applies to all versions | 17:42 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: good to know, thanks | 17:45 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: like : release = | 17:46 |
EmilienM | ? | 17:46 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : that's a python file, so: release = '' | 17:46 |
EmilienM | ah right | 17:46 |
EmilienM | ok thanks | 17:46 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: updated, it should be better now | 17:48 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : you may want to do the same with version (I'm not sure which one is actually used in the HTML templates) | 17:51 |
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EmilienM | dhellmann: ok | 17:53 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : basically, I'm suggesting that you not show any version info in the sidebar and to do that you would blank out both values | 17:54 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: wait so I don't need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498882/2/tripleo_heat_templates/__init__.py ? | 17:54 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : right | 17:54 |
EmilienM | ok even simpler ! | 17:54 |
dhellmann | :-) | 17:54 |
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EmilienM | dhellmann: would it work for non-python projects, like puppet modules? | 17:55 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : do we still require setup.py and pbr use for puppet modules? I know that puppet doesn't take the version info from there but I'm not sure if the rest of our jobs work well without that info | 17:56 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: I don't know much, I'll check with mwhahaha later | 17:57 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: so https://review.openstack.org/498882 should be fine now, let's see how it works | 17:57 |
mwhahaha | dhellmann: we only have it in the repos for the reno stuff | 17:57 |
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dhellmann | mwhahaha : ok, that's what I thought. | 17:58 |
dhellmann | EmilienM : I'm sort of answering blindly here. What is it you're trying to do? | 17:59 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: stop hardcoding numbers | 17:59 |
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dhellmann | EmilienM : ok. For release notes, I recommend leaving version and release blank. For regular documentation, you should be able to use pbr to get the version. You should be able to just use pbr directly, without creating the __init__.py module | 18:01 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: I'm just worrried about reno today | 18:03 |
EmilienM | but ack for doc | 18:03 |
EmilienM | dhellmann: so it seems like we can apply the patch to all tripleo & puppet projects as well? | 18:03 |
EmilienM | and we woulldn't have to maintain the tags manually in the conf | 18:04 |
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dhellmann | EmilienM : right, if you set the version and release to empty strings then when the release notes build they should just have the project name without the version string, and reno will insert the relevant headers for the versions it finds in tags | 18:10 |
EmilienM | mwhahaha: ^ | 18:11 |
EmilienM | this is really cool, I missed this info | 18:11 |
EmilienM | it means we can stop maintaining tags in reno conf | 18:11 |
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EmilienM | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498882/ is ready for a last review, thanks | 18:31 |
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mriedem | i'm doing the first release for the osc-placement plugin, | 19:54 |
mriedem | and the launchpad name "placement-osc-plugin" is different from the git repo "osc-placement" | 19:54 |
mriedem | isn't there something i have to be aware of for a specific flag in the project's deliverable yaml file for that? | 19:55 |
mriedem | tarball-base? | 19:55 |
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mriedem | or repo? | 19:55 |
mriedem | ah yeah, like os-vif | 19:56 |
mriedem | which uses tarball-base: os_vif | 19:56 |
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mriedem | oh nvm the tarball name should be osc-placement because that's what is in setup.cfg: https://launchpad.net/placement-osc-plugin | 19:57 |
mriedem | oops | 19:57 |
mriedem | name = osc-placement | 19:57 |
dhellmann | mriedem : you just need to set the launchpad project name in the deliverable file to the right value | 19:57 |
mriedem | yup got that | 19:58 |
mriedem | tox -e validate ftw i guess | 19:58 |
dhellmann | we have pretty good validation now for other mismatches in names, so "tox -e validate" ought to tell you if it thinks there's anything else wrong | 19:58 |
dhellmann | if you haven't committed, run it as "tox -e validate -- deliverable/file/name" | 19:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: queens: initial osc-placement release https://review.openstack.org/498924 | 20:02 |
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