Tuesday, 2017-08-29

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mordreddhellmann, ttx, dims, smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/498634 and https://review.openstack.org/498623 may be interesting to you - I've started working on making v3 versions of the jobs that run on the release node today01:12
mordreddhellmann, ttx, dims, smcginnis: no action needed - mostly just letting you know patches were up in case you're interested01:12
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robcresswellsmcginnis, dhellmann: Horizon was all ready to go with that last tag I put up. Didn't see messages to confirm unfortunately, it was half 10 :) If you need anything else, please let me know.06:48
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claudiub|2dhellmann: hello. around for a few seconds?08:19
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ttxclaudiub|2: Doug won't be around until ~4-5 hours. Anythign I can help with ?08:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: run commands without buffered I/O  https://review.openstack.org/49826108:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: modernize propose-final-releases command  https://review.openstack.org/49826208:37
claudiub|2ttx: ah, i see. yep, I need some advice. As you know, a few years ago, the neutron vendor decomposition happened, and thus, quite a few new projects were born, including networking-hyperv. When it was to make to make a release for that cycle for networking-hyperv, pretty much every networking-* project followed the release version number at that time, which was 2015.x.y.08:38
claudiub|2after which, the versioning changed to what it is right now08:38
claudiub|2ttx: now, the problem is this: networking-hyperv==2015.1.0 has been published to pypi as well08:39
claudiub|2and when people upgrade their networking-hyperv via: pip install -U networking-hyperv, it "upgrades" to 2015.1.008:39
claudiub|2and i think it's also the same with pip install networking-hyperv, if no version is installed, (2015.1.0 is seen as the latest version).08:40
ttxIs pip a common way to install networking-hyperv ?08:40
claudiub|2ttx: now the question is: do you think it's ok / safe to remove 2015.1.0 from pypi?08:40
ttxThat's a good question, and yes we should include dhellmann in that discussion. I remember we had that discussion in the past too08:41
claudiub|2ttx: from what I've seen, yes. And it's a very common mistake that people do: installing networking-hyperv==2015.1.008:41
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ttxSince it may affect more than just networking-hyperv, would be great to turn your question into a thread, we'll reply there for the benefit of everyone08:42
ttxIt's not really a new issue or somethign specific to Pike, so no absolute urgency in getting an answer08:42
claudiub|2sure, sounds good. is the [release] tag ok?08:42
ttxyou can use [relmgt] since it's more a release management team question than a "Pike release" issue08:43
ttxwe use [release] for current cycle messaging08:43
ttxclaudiub|2: thx!08:44
claudiub|2i see. thanks!08:44
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openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/releases master: Release Mistral Pike RC2  https://review.openstack.org/49878512:22
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dhellmannttx, dims, smcginnis : o/12:35
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ttxdhellmann: o/12:37
ttxI sent the day-1 email pointing to the review12:38
dhellmannah, good12:43
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dimsdhellmann : ttx : smcginnis : o/12:49
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dimsthanks mordred13:14
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dhellmannttx, claudiub|2 : I think in the past we only dealt with the problem for distro packages, and they just increment the epoch value. I don't think we ever used versions like that for oslo libraries or clients, did we?13:20
ttxdhellmann: no we didn't13:21
ttxWe had a few things using YYYY.SEQ numbering on Pypi, but those were mostly errors (like nova being uploaded there)13:21
dhellmannright, that's what I remember13:23
ttxIf Pypi is a viable distribution mechanism for some networking-* things and they inherited 2015.1 from neutron, that might be a valid case of version removal13:23
ttxnot really cancelling that release, just making sure that pip doesn't serve it13:23
dhellmannthat's really frowned upon, but it may be the only solution here13:23
dhellmannI suppose we could re-tag using non-date versions13:24
dhellmannthough if the release isn't supported, maybe that's not worth it13:24
ttxyeah, let's make it a thread to make sure we hear from everyone13:24
dhellmannwas claudiub|2 going to start that?13:25
ttxyes13:25
dhellmannok13:25
ttxalso not really an urgent thing, the problem exists since 201513:25
dhellmanntrue13:25
smcginnisI'm surprised it hasn't become a bigger issue before now.13:26
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ttxprobably not a very common distribution mechanism13:26
ttxdistros sidestep it with epoch numbers13:26
ttxso only a problem if you rely on pip to install them13:27
claudiub|2smcginnis: i'm only raising the question now because i'm tired of answering the same answer to people saying that it doesn't work. :D13:27
smcginnisclaudiub|2: Yeah, definitely. :)13:29
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ttxsmcginnis or dhellmann: could you review and approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480513/ ? been lingering for 2 months13:31
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dhellmannttx: done. while we're at it: https://review.openstack.org/49758913:32
smcginnisAm I supposed to have +2/+A for project-team-guide?13:33
dhellmannI don't think that's automatic but you seem like a swell guy so I can add you13:33
dhellmanndone13:34
ttxdhellmann: I left that one out because I knew it would merge-conflict with the other I just approved13:38
dhellmannah13:38
dhellmannttx: rebased13:40
smcginnisdhellmann: Haha, thanks. :)13:40
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smcginnisIs the plan to wait for all PTLs for the "final Pike" patch? Or just hope to get as many as possible before tomorrow?15:52
dhellmannwe usually just hope to get as many as we can15:52
dims++ dhellmann15:53
dhellmannthe final release needs to be done before the press release embargo time15:53
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smcginnisWhen is that exactly?15:53
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dims"Pike will be formally released tomorrow before 1500utc" smcginnis15:55
dhellmannah, right, thanks dims15:55
dhellmannI was going to remove my -2 today in case some early birds wanted to take care of the release first thing tomorrow15:56
ttxpress release goes out at 10am CT, we try to be done before that15:56
dhellmannI can go ahead and do tha tnow15:56
smcginnisOK. So should we wrap it up this evening to make sure there aren't any hiccups, or first thing in the morning?15:56
ttxfirst thing in the morning15:56
ttxI can even run stuff on low tide gate (EU morning)15:57
dhellmannttx: do you want to schedule something more specific for us to meet here?15:57
ttxif we feel lucky15:57
dhellmannwe usually like to have someone from infra standing by in case there are issues with the job15:57
ttxdhellmann: IIRC the process now goes pretty fast ? Just piles up a lot of jobs15:57
smcginnisLow tide sounds good. :)15:57
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dhellmannyeah, I think that's true15:58
ttxlet's see how early we can make it15:58
ttxfungi: when can you be around tomorrow morning to keep an eye on the release jobpile ?15:58
ttxI mean how early can you be around15:58
ttxFeels like we could start around 1300utc and be more than fully done by 1500utc15:58
ttxI'm just slightly worried 1300utc is no longer low tide :)15:59
dhellmannno, that feels late15:59
ttxOK, you tell me. I'll be up anyway15:59
fungii can get to bed early and skip tc office hour15:59
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dhellmannI was going to get up early to try to be around for 1100utc16:00
dhellmannyou won't know I'm still in my pajamas anyway16:00
fungimy schedule's pretty open tomorrow so yeah 11:00z wfm16:00
clarkbfungi: that would be much appreciated so I don't have to be up around 4am :)16:00
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ttxI'll be there at 11:00z for sure. I don't think we need that many more people16:01
ttxIt's just pushing buttons and praying16:01
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ttxand 11:00z is definitely low tide16:01
dhellmannyeah, last time it was pretty anticlimactic16:01
ttxOK, let's say 11z, I'll have early lunch16:01
ttxI'll draft the release email in the morning16:02
fungii only really need to be awake by 10:30z so i can grab coffee and stumble toward the computer16:02
ttxfungi: you only need to be awake if something goes wrong16:02
fungiif i'm not especially awake, odds are something will go wrong16:03
fungithis is insurance that you won't actually need me16:03
ttxagree, murphy's law16:03
dhellmannlike carrying an umbrella16:03
* ttx looks up release tasks16:03
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ttxall under control I think16:06
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fungieven the release rush seems to be dying down. zuul is caught up with its backlog at this point16:08
funginode utilization has already started dropping for the day16:09
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EmilienMdhellmann: good morning! quick question, is it possible to give multiple projects to "tox -e venv -- new-release" or should I do one by one?16:26
dhellmannEmilienM : I think today it's only 1 by 1, since you need to specify the type of release16:27
EmilienMok excellent16:27
EmilienMthanks!16:27
dhellmannthere is another command that's more interactive that may do what you want, but I haven't used that one16:27
dhellmannEmilienM : interactive-release16:27
dhellmannI don't think we have many docs for that, though16:28
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EmilienMdhellmann: I'll give it a try!16:29
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release new tags for Tripleo (Newton)  https://review.openstack.org/49886516:44
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EmilienMif someone here has 2 minute for a very quick review - I'm proposing to use Python to compute the release version for some TripleO projects who didn't do that until now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498882/ - the result is here: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/82/498882/1/check/gate-tripleo-heat-templates-releasenotes/2cd0973//releasenotes/build/html/ - can someone say if I missed something?17:26
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dhellmannEmilienM : looking17:41
dhellmannEmilienM : that works fine. You could also leave the version field blank, since the release notes document applies to all versions17:42
EmilienMdhellmann: good to know, thanks17:45
EmilienMdhellmann: like : release =17:46
EmilienM?17:46
dhellmannEmilienM : that's a python file, so: release = ''17:46
EmilienMah right17:46
EmilienMok thanks17:46
EmilienMdhellmann: updated, it should be better now17:48
dhellmannEmilienM : you may want to do the same with version (I'm not sure which one is actually used in the HTML templates)17:51
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EmilienMdhellmann: ok17:53
dhellmannEmilienM : basically, I'm suggesting that you not show any version info in the sidebar and to do that you would blank out both values17:54
EmilienMdhellmann: wait so I don't need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498882/2/tripleo_heat_templates/__init__.py ?17:54
dhellmannEmilienM : right17:54
EmilienMok even simpler !17:54
dhellmann:-)17:54
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EmilienMdhellmann: would it work for non-python projects, like puppet modules?17:55
dhellmannEmilienM : do we still require setup.py and pbr use for puppet modules? I know that puppet doesn't take the version info from there but I'm not sure if the rest of our jobs work well without that info17:56
EmilienMdhellmann: I don't know much, I'll check with mwhahaha  later17:57
EmilienMdhellmann: so https://review.openstack.org/498882 should be fine now, let's see how it works17:57
mwhahahadhellmann: we only have it in the repos for the reno stuff17:57
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dhellmannmwhahaha : ok, that's what I thought.17:58
dhellmannEmilienM : I'm sort of answering blindly here. What is it you're trying to do?17:59
EmilienMdhellmann: stop hardcoding numbers17:59
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dhellmannEmilienM : ok. For release notes, I recommend leaving version and release blank. For regular documentation, you should be able to use pbr to get the version. You should be able to just use pbr directly, without creating the __init__.py module18:01
EmilienMdhellmann: I'm just worrried about reno today18:03
EmilienMbut ack for doc18:03
EmilienMdhellmann: so it seems like we can apply the patch to all tripleo & puppet projects as well?18:03
EmilienMand we woulldn't have to maintain the tags manually in the conf18:04
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dhellmannEmilienM : right, if you set the version and release to empty strings then when the release notes build they should just have the project name without the version string, and reno will insert the relevant headers for the versions it finds in tags18:10
EmilienMmwhahaha: ^18:11
EmilienMthis is really cool, I missed this info18:11
EmilienMit means we can stop maintaining tags in reno conf18:11
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EmilienMdhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498882/ is ready for a last review, thanks18:31
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mriedemi'm doing the first release for the osc-placement plugin,19:54
mriedemand the launchpad name "placement-osc-plugin" is different from the git repo "osc-placement"19:54
mriedemisn't there something i have to be aware of for a specific flag in the project's deliverable yaml file for that?19:55
mriedemtarball-base?19:55
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mriedemor repo?19:55
mriedemah yeah, like os-vif19:56
mriedemwhich uses tarball-base: os_vif19:56
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mriedemoh nvm the tarball name should be osc-placement because that's what is in setup.cfg: https://launchpad.net/placement-osc-plugin19:57
mriedemoops19:57
mriedemname = osc-placement19:57
dhellmannmriedem : you just need to set the launchpad project name in the deliverable file to the right value19:57
mriedemyup got that19:58
mriedemtox -e validate ftw i guess19:58
dhellmannwe have pretty good validation now for other mismatches in names, so "tox -e validate" ought to tell you if it thinks there's anything else wrong19:58
dhellmannif you haven't committed, run it as "tox -e validate -- deliverable/file/name"19:58
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: queens: initial osc-placement release  https://review.openstack.org/49892420:02
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