Tuesday, 2017-09-05

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tonybEmilienM: looks like apevec got there before me04:15
EmilienMtonyb: nice04:15
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openstackgerritChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/releases master: Add oslo releases for queens Sept 4, 2017  https://review.openstack.org/50055608:25
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ttxThe whole processing of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499734/ failed, so we should probably retrigger it09:40
ttxNot sure what's the best way to do it though09:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Karbor 0.5.1 for Pike  https://review.openstack.org/50035211:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: queens: initial osc-placement release  https://review.openstack.org/49892411:19
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dimssmcginnis : ttx : dhellmann : o/12:05
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ttxsmcginnis, dhellmann, dims: For the release management team meeting in Denver, did we decide on a day ? Mon-Tue are no-no, Wed I suspect dhellmann has other stuff, Friday we have some TC stuff, should we say Thursday ?12:49
dimsthu sounds good ttx12:51
ttxsmcginnis: for the dinner, Wednesday sounds like a good bet12:51
ttxor Monday, actually12:52
dhellmanndims, ttx, smcginnis : o/12:54
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dhellmannttx: maybe we should revert and then re-apply the patch?12:54
dhellmannttx: thursday is wide open for me so far, so that would work great12:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release kolla-ansible  https://review.openstack.org/49969813:09
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smcginnisttx: I think fungi already helped me rerun that failed one.13:31
smcginnisMonday would actually probably work great for me. Thursday could work depending on all the other plans that depend on other plans that depend on other plans.13:31
smcginnisOh, actually... Thursday probably would be the best day to meet.13:32
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: Add release for hacking  https://review.openstack.org/50035513:35
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: fix commit_exists() to not rely on commits being on named branches  https://review.openstack.org/50082513:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Kolla  https://review.openstack.org/49967913:45
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fungismcginnis: ttx: it was the tripleo-heat-templates tarball job failure i helped rerun, the overall releases tag job also seems to have subsequently failed because one of the repos lacked a .gitreview file: http://logs.openstack.org/07/07e11c7d5e2f360b31c252497cb950252bbf7f90/release-post/tag-releases/3ba0e6d/console.html#_2017-09-04_22_59_28_88137213:49
fungiaha! and the reason it lacks a .gitreview is that it's retired13:50
smcginnisHuh, so how do we handle retired repos?13:51
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ttxfungi: ok so we'll need rerunning a different one13:52
ttxtripleo-heat-templates tarball job failure was a newton thing13:53
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/499734/ is the one that completely failed13:53
fungilooks like they were trying to release from the stable/ocata branch, only master is retired, but the job seems to freak out if there's no .gitreview in master13:53
ttxfungi: those may be two different things13:54
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fungittx: yes, i was trying to say they were two different things13:55
ttxthe overall tag releases job applies to stable/ocata (6.x) while the tripleo-heat-templates rerun was a stable/newton thing (5.x)13:55
fungithe tripleo-heat-templates tarball build initially failed, some corner case where the publisher ran into a "file already exists" error in ansible (new one to me, reenqueuing that release worked out fine)13:56
dhellmannyeah, we should put that .gitreview file back13:56
fungithe tripleo ocata release batch didn't complete because of what looks like a bug in the job itself triggered by the os-cloud-config repo having no .gitreview file in its master branch (as it's now retired after ocata)13:56
ttxah ok13:56
fungior sure, we could consider that even retired repos need .gitreview files in master, i don't know which is preferable13:57
fungii was trying to dig up the script to figure out whether we can move the git review -s to after it changes branches13:58
ttxdhellmann: ok in this condition I'd rather revert the releases change altogether13:58
dhellmannttx: makes sense.13:58
ttxsince we'll need to get something else merged in13:58
fungisince this was a release for the stable/ocata branch, and that branch _does_ have a .gitreview file13:58
dhellmannthe job wants to set the repo up so it can propose patches if it is creating branches13:58
ttxthat way we can add a depends(on13:58
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dhellmannI'd rather not have lots of complex logic in there to decide if that's actually necessary13:59
ttxso that people know what blocks it13:59
dhellmannso it would be better if repos just always had the .gitreview file (or if git-review worked without it)13:59
ttxdhellmann: I'll post the revert, can you post the .gitreview master addition13:59
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smcginnisSeems like "master" would be a reasonable default for git-review to have.13:59
dhellmannttx: ack. I have a 30 minute meeting starting now so it will be a bit13:59
ttxdhellmann: I'll do both then14:00
fungismcginnis: git review wants to know where to find gerrit, so it's looking for a .gitreview file in whatever state of the repo is currently checked out14:00
dhellmannyeah, this is very early in the process, setting up the local copy of the repo to start making changes. I'm not sure we even know which branch we want at this point in the script14:01
smcginnisfungi: Right, just think dhellmann's comment about git-review working without a .gitreview file. Seems like it could figure it out in most cases?14:01
fungiwe could i suppose "make" a default by having the job add a .gitreview file with some guessed values if none exists in the current worktree, but that would be specific to the job, but it's not something git-review (as a general purpose tool) is going to be able to figure out on its own14:01
dhellmannyeah, it can't necessarily guess from the existing remote urls14:02
fungigit-review definitely doesn't have any means of figuring out what gerrit your project uses14:02
dhellmannbut the job could do it, I guess14:02
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Revert "TripleO Ocata release"  https://review.openstack.org/50083714:02
smcginnisOh, right. Had to look at what's all in there again.14:03
fungii take that back, you can pre-specify ti by adding a remote to .git/config, but still you need to know the value ahead of time so git-review still isn't really guessing14:04
smcginnisGuess the initial thought of just making sure it's there is better. Gets too complicated otherwise.14:04
ttxfungi: project is marked read-only apparently, can't propose change14:06
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fungiright, that's typical of the retirement process. will need to unwind all of that (revert the acl, readd a no-op job, et cetera)14:07
dhellmannif we can do this in the git config, maybe we can do it in the job14:07
fungiit's become apparent in the past few months that retiring a project while it's still got active stable branches is a bad idea14:07
fungii have a feeling that even if we solved for the missing .gitreview file, we'll still fail to push the tag to it14:08
dhellmanndoes that mean we're releasing untested stuff? or did they keep the jobs on the stable branch?14:08
dhellmannoh, good point14:08
* ttx holds on proposing the .gitreview addtion14:08
dhellmannmaybe EmilienM wants to do the release without that component?14:08
EmilienMI'm currently in tripleo meeting14:09
EmilienMI'll read scroll-back later14:09
fungiprobably need to find out from EmilienM whether there is any expectation of active maintenance of os-cloud-config for stable/newton onward14:09
dhellmannEmilienM : ack14:09
EmilienMos-cloud-config is not useful for us anymore, I think we deprecated some release ago14:09
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fungiand if there is, we'll need to un-retire it14:09
EmilienMno no, we want it retired14:10
fungii'm trying to think through how we need to age unused libraries out of integration testing in the future before we determine it's safe to retire them14:11
dhellmannwhen I looked at oslosphinx, I came to the conclusion that it was best to leave everything alone until all active stable branches were removed14:12
dhellmannor at least EOL14:12
dhellmannand then to retire the repo14:12
fungithat probably makes the most sense, so we don't actually finish the retirement process while there are active stable branches14:12
dhellmannor even start -- I just added comments to the readme14:12
dhellmannI didn't delete anything or change ACLs14:13
fungiagreed (depends on what you call "starting" in that case, i guess)14:13
dhellmannwe could do something like create a smaller or empty review group for master, but that seemed like superfluous complexity14:13
openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed openstack/releases master: Release kuryr-libnetwork 0.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/49847914:14
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fungii worry about leaving os-cloud-config the way it is, since it's still listed in global requirements for stable/ocata14:20
dhellmannyeah, good point. I wonder if we should un-retire it until it's actually not being used?14:21
dhellmanneven if we don't restore the files on master, we want to be able to land patches on the stable branches14:21
fungithough i guess we could just stop releasing it and cross our fingers that we don't need to do any stable branch gymnastics to prevent it breaking stable requirements jobs in the future14:21
fungiand then un-retire it if that happens14:22
dhellmannis it likely to take any more effort later to do the unretire work?14:22
dhellmannmore than now, that is14:22
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funginot really, it's just one more catch we'll rediscover while scrambling to solve some broad breakage for stable requirements (e.g. if one of setuptools' minimum deps gets bumped and it happens to be pinned in os-cloud-config's requirements or something)14:23
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dhellmannI can live with that, I think14:24
dhellmannit might actually be better than doing something now that doesn't actually work, and having to figure *that* out later under pressure14:24
fungiand looking at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-cloud-config/tree/requirements.txt?h=stable/ocata there are no direct dep caps, so we're only talking about transitive dep conflicts i guess14:24
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dhellmannI wonder if there's any way we could have detected this in the validation job14:25
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dhellmannI think it doesn't set up git-review, but we could make it do that14:25
fungihrm, os-cloud-config does have a test-requirement pin to sphinx <1.4 so i guess we could in theory get into trouble there14:26
EmilienMttx: I just saw https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500837 - do you expect me to do something at this point?14:26
fungibut odds of us being able to actually support sphinx 1.4+ in stable/ocata are slim14:26
dhellmannEmilienM : we're going to need your input on the unretire discussion ^^ and whether it makes sense to just try to release ocata without the retired component(s)14:27
ttxyes, what dhellmann says14:27
ttxI'm entering meeting tunnel so don't expect that much help from me for the rest of the day14:27
EmilienMdhellmann: we can just add the .gitreview file, isn't?14:28
dhellmannEmilienM : no, because that repo is retired and no one can submit patches14:28
EmilienMah right14:28
dhellmannso we could completely reverse all of that, or we could just ignore the component14:28
EmilienMso let's remove os-cloud-config from the release14:28
fungiEmilienM: if you need a summary, os-cloud-config is still in active (newton, ocata) stable branches of requirements at least, so we need to figure out to what extent we can effectively retire a repo from master under such conditions14:28
dhellmannrevert approved14:30
fungiand teh two options are to either unwind the retirement and revisit after stable/ocata reaches eol, or skip os-cloud-config stable point releases from now on and hope that we don't still need to un-retire it in the future if there's a broad dependency issue in one of those branches14:30
dhellmannor a major bug in os-cloud-config that requires a new release14:31
fungiwhich would only be likely if it's used by stable branch versions of other software beyond just being listed in global requirements14:32
fungisounds more like it's been effectively unused for some number of cycles but not cleaned up until pike14:32
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apevecos-cloud-config 6.0.0..6.0.1 is just one "Updated from global requirements"14:34
apeveclet's just remove it from re-proposed release14:34
apevecdhellmann, how will re-release work now?14:34
apevecgit tags are already there, will that not fail?14:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Revert "TripleO Ocata release"  https://review.openstack.org/50083714:34
dhellmannapevec : the jobs are idempotent, so if EmilienM proposes a new release that does not include os-cloud-config everything should work14:35
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EmilienMok I'll do it after tripleo meeting14:35
dhellmannEmilienM : ++ that will give the revert time to merge14:35
dhellmannoh, it did already, nevermind14:36
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Revert "Revert "TripleO Ocata release""  https://review.openstack.org/50085114:37
apevecEmilienM, ^ you are not paying attention to the meeting :)14:38
EmilienMapevec: I'm not PTL anymore :-P (well technically still a little bit :P)14:39
openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack/releases master: Add release 1.0.0 for hacking  https://review.openstack.org/50035514:40
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EmilienMdhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500851/ is ready I think15:08
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ttxEmilienM: +2A15:56
EmilienMttx: thx15:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Revert "Revert "TripleO Ocata release""  https://review.openstack.org/50085116:08
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: do not rely on side-effects to clone repositories  https://review.openstack.org/50093617:37
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: require all repos to have a .gitreview file  https://review.openstack.org/50093717:37
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: do not rely on side-effects to clone repositories  https://review.openstack.org/50093618:58
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: require all repos to have a .gitreview file  https://review.openstack.org/50093718:58
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prometheanfiredid the tripleo change meet the phase II requirements for release?19:06
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smcginnisprometheanfire: There was some question on a change or two included in there IIRC.19:52
prometheanfireya, I agree it's low impact, but I don't agree that the stable:follow-policy of the dependant projects is what maters20:01
prometheanfirehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/499734/ is the review btw20:01
smcginnisprometheanfire: Yeah, those are pretty questionable.20:02
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openstackgerritFelipe Monteiro proposed openstack/releases master: Release Patrole 0.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/49983020:15
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prometheanfireapevec: can you clarify how https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499734/ follows the phase II requirements?20:38
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jlvillalAnyone know how to troubleshoot: <reno.sphinxext current branch>:1:Unexpected indentation.  ?21:54
lbragstadhey folks - i'm going through and updating projects that are not affected by https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/policy-in-code.html21:56
lbragstadto the best of my knowledge, the release team falls into that category21:56
lbragstadif that is not the case, please feel free to ping me or leave a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501004/21:56
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dhellmannjlvillal : where are you seeing that?22:08
dhellmannlbragstad : yes, we don't publish any APIs so I don't think there's anything for us to do for that one22:08
jlvillaldhellmann: In current openstack-dev/hacking when doing a releasenotes run22:09
dhellmannjlvillal : a patch under review, or master?22:09
lbragstaddhellmann: ack - thanks for the confirmation22:09
jlvillaldhellmann: In master: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440029/22:09
jlvillaldhellmann: We just got the releasenotes job turned on. So I did a recheck on that patch.22:09
dhellmannok, let me see if I can reproduce it locally and give you any tips on fixing it22:09
jlvillaldhellmann: I fixed it with this: https://review.openstack.org/50101022:10
jlvillaldhellmann: But it was a lot of trial and error on my part.22:10
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jlvillaldhellmann: I was just guessing randomly22:10
jlvillaldhellmann: So better error message would be nice.22:10
dhellmannyeah, that's the docutils parser producing the error, not reno22:10
dhellmannI wonder if we can do more there to test the rendering of individual notes, though22:11
dhellmannI'll make a note of that for the release team to talk about at the ptg22:11
jlvillaldhellmann: Thanks!22:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-ironic-inspector-client 2.1.0 for Pike  https://review.openstack.org/49739822:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Cinder stable/ocata 10.0.6  https://review.openstack.org/49970222:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Create driverfixes/ocata branch for Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/49972122:34
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