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openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: Fix abandoning reviews in eol_branch https://review.openstack.org/508067 | 06:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Joshua Hesketh proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: Fix abandoning reviews in eol_branch https://review.openstack.org/508067 | 08:38 |
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openstackgerrit | ChangBo Guo(gcb) proposed openstack/releases master: Add tooz release for stable/newton https://review.openstack.org/508121 | 11:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/508134 | 12:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/508134 | 12:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible ocata/15.1.9 https://review.openstack.org/508146 | 12:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/508134 | 13:49 |
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smcginnis | ttx, dhellmann, tonyb, dims, any others - countdown email draft: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-email-r21 | 13:54 |
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smcginnis | Let me know if there's any feedback or add whatever you want there. I will send out later today. | 13:54 |
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dims | smcginnis : let's invite the liaisons to the release team meeting? | 13:56 |
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smcginnis | dims: Sure! You want to add something there? | 13:58 |
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evrardjp | forgive me my noobness, but how does this works https://github.com/openstack/releases/#using-new-release-command with the multiple repositories explained in the documentation? | 13:58 |
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dims | smcginnis : on it | 13:58 |
smcginnis | dims: Thanks! | 13:58 |
smcginnis | evrardjp: dhellmann may be able to have better details, but I think you just run it for each repo. | 13:59 |
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evrardjp | that could simplify our work, we could just checkout the proper sha we are testing for a stable release, and issue the tox command. Seems easy. | 14:00 |
dims | smcginnis : done | 14:00 |
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evrardjp | let's wait what dhellmann says then! :P | 14:00 |
smcginnis | dims: Thank you sir. | 14:01 |
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smcginnis | evrardjp: Oh, you mean use some of this command's logic to automate stable testing? | 14:01 |
evrardjp | well no, we have enough stability already :p | 14:02 |
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evrardjp | but we are using some kind of logic to do stable testing that could be mapped to this | 14:03 |
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dhellmann | o/ | 14:23 |
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dhellmann | smcginnis : email draft looks good | 14:25 |
smcginnis | dhellmann: Thanks! | 14:25 |
dhellmann | evrardjp : the new-release command will check out the repo for you. It assumes you want to release HEAD. So you just tell it the repo and whether the release is a feature update, a bug fix, etc. and it computes the next version number and figures out the sha | 14:25 |
evrardjp | well I don't want head, I want a sha, that's the part :p | 14:26 |
dhellmann | evrardjp : I'm not sure what your comments about stable testing mean | 14:26 |
dhellmann | if you want a specific sha then you'll be better off editing the file by hand | 14:27 |
dhellmann | evrardjp : maybe if you explain in more detail what you are trying to do I can try to help point out any tools we have that can help | 14:27 |
evrardjp | well we do already a file that contains our role shas, and that's what we consider part of our stable process | 14:27 |
evrardjp | role == repositories | 14:27 |
evrardjp | and we bump them on a regular basis, so we are controlling the stability that way | 14:28 |
evrardjp | right now we have a script that consumes this input, and generates the yml for the release repo | 14:28 |
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dhellmann | ok | 14:29 |
evrardjp | I thought that we could do two birds one stone, and remove this script, by simplying going across this file and calling the new_release with the appropriate sha | 14:29 |
dhellmann | ah | 14:29 |
dhellmann | it doesn't work that way today, but it could be made to | 14:29 |
dhellmann | you could add a --sha option to the command and if that is set bypass the work of figuring out the sha for head | 14:30 |
dhellmann | although expressing that on the command line for a multi-part deliverable would be complex | 14:30 |
evrardjp | let me check the new_release script and propose something then. | 14:30 |
dhellmann | are all of your deliverables built from a single repo? | 14:31 |
evrardjp | yeah, I have to compare approach basically | 14:31 |
evrardjp | for now yes. | 14:31 |
evrardjp | I don't expect a change soon | 14:31 |
dhellmann | ok, so a single option would work for your case. I'm not sure if we want to make it complex enough to deal with the multi-project case | 14:31 |
dhellmann | maybe make --sha repeatable and have the syntax be $repo:$sha | 14:32 |
dhellmann | for the value | 14:32 |
dhellmann | so you'd say --sha repo1:sha1 --sha repo2:sha2 | 14:32 |
evrardjp | oh I misunderstood your question | 14:32 |
evrardjp | the deliverable info is from a single repo, while the deliverable itself is multiple repos | 14:32 |
evrardjp | ok I understand better | 14:33 |
evrardjp | that sounds more complex than what I have right now. Let's keep it that way. | 14:35 |
evrardjp | thanks for the explanation nonetheless! | 14:35 |
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jeblair | hi release folks! we're about to shut down zuul v2 now. it would be really good to avoid release activity for a bit. | 14:38 |
jeblair | dhellmann, dims, fungi, ttx, smcginnis: ^ | 14:38 |
dims | jeblair : +++++++ | 14:38 |
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fungi | for realz this time! | 14:39 |
fungi | ;) | 14:39 |
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smcginnis | jeblair: Thanks. And good luck! :) | 14:41 |
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: The infra team is now taking Zuul v2 offline and bringing Zuul v3 online. Please see https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/zuulv3.html for more information, and ask us in #openstack-infra if you have any questions. | 14:43 | |
evrardjp | good luck jeblair! | 14:43 |
jeblair | thanks :) | 14:44 |
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dhellmann | evrardjp : np. If you think of a less complex solution, we can talk again. | 14:51 |
dhellmann | jeblair : ack | 14:51 |
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EmilienM | are we still in release freeze? | 14:59 |
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EmilienM | if no, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507286/ | 15:01 |
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smcginnis | EmilienM: Yeah, they're hoping to wrap up the zuul upgrade today. | 15:05 |
smcginnis | EmilienM: Hopefully just a little longer. | 15:05 |
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EmilienM | smcginnis: no worries, I was just wondering :D | 15:07 |
* EmilienM can wait | 15:07 | |
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smcginnis | jeblair: Do we have an "all clear" for releases now? Or still some trailing things? | 15:26 |
jeblair | smcginnis: not yet, we're currently "between zuuls" | 15:27 |
evrardjp | In the meantime, could someone can help me on telling me what I am doing wrong on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508134/ ? | 15:27 |
smcginnis | jeblair: OK, gotcha. | 15:27 |
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smcginnis | evrardjp: That's... odd. | 15:30 |
dhellmann | looking | 15:30 |
evrardjp | the move to the first part was because of my tooling that tails the content, so moving the content manually at beginning helps me in the future. YAML should be not ordered so it should be alright? | 15:31 |
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evrardjp | few minutes after I had a new release for another branch, for the same reason, but I doubt that's the issue | 15:31 |
smcginnis | evrardjp: Maybe try moving the "version" line to the end? I think I've seen some oddness there, though haven't had time to take a look at why that would even matter. | 15:32 |
evrardjp | yeah I will try on my machine. | 15:36 |
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dhellmann | evrardjp : it looks like those old versions have new entries for repositories that were not present before? or that do not have the tag for some reason? | 15:40 |
dhellmann | I have a patch to expand the warning message, stand by | 15:40 |
evrardjp | oh... | 15:41 |
evrardjp | let me double check | 15:41 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/508134 | 15:41 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: report the repository when reporting a new version found https://review.openstack.org/508204 | 15:41 |
dhellmann | evrardjp : look for "Found new release" messages in the validation job output | 15:42 |
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dhellmann | that new patch that I just tucked under yours will expand the message to include the repository name | 15:42 |
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evrardjp | double checked what I added is the same | 15:44 |
evrardjp | well let me double check the whole thing | 15:45 |
evrardjp | thanks dhellmann! | 15:45 |
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evrardjp | oh sad zuul is sad | 15:51 |
smcginnis | Where is the console output? :/ | 15:52 |
smcginnis | Very sad. | 15:52 |
evrardjp | I checked on ara, the issue I found was not in the code, maybe wait a little? | 15:52 |
smcginnis | Yeah, maybe we need to wait for the dust to settle. | 15:52 |
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evrardjp | smcginnis: fyi: http://logs.openstack.org/04/508204/1/check/legacy-releases-tox-validate/3c96f1a/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-09-28_15_44_57_499789 | 15:53 |
evrardjp | is not very friendly there | 15:53 |
evrardjp | therefore* | 15:53 |
evrardjp | http://logs.openstack.org/04/508204/1/check/legacy-releases-tox-validate/3c96f1a/ara/ is easier clicked | 15:53 |
evrardjp | well I guess you knew, but I am such a helper :p | 15:54 |
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smcginnis | :) | 15:55 |
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evrardjp | dhellmann: "evrardjp : it looks like those old versions have new entries for repositories that were not present before? or that do not have the tag for some reason?" Could you clarify that? It's the key to my understanding until I read the code | 17:31 |
evrardjp | I checked, basically with your output all the repos are borking. | 17:31 |
evrardjp | I doubled check they have previous tags | 17:31 |
evrardjp | oh no I found one. Thanks! | 17:34 |
evrardjp | grep is the deal. | 17:34 |
evrardjp | well, I meant grep and dhellmann are ! | 17:36 |
dhellmann | http://paste.openstack.org/show/622186/ shows 2 surprising items attached to openstack-ansible-security for the old beta releases | 17:37 |
dhellmann | the rest of those lines are talking about the new version being tagged, and those should be fine | 17:37 |
dhellmann | bbiab | 17:38 |
evrardjp | dhellmann: yes that's exactly what I have seen | 17:40 |
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evrardjp | you're confirming | 17:40 |
openstackgerrit | Jay Bryant proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 1.15.3 https://review.openstack.org/508252 | 17:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible pike/16.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/508134 | 17:43 |
openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible ocata/15.1.9 https://review.openstack.org/508146 | 17:46 |
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evrardjp | dhellmann: may I borrow your brain again? Pike is handled for me, but during ocata cycle, openstack-ansible-security was renamed ansible-hardening. To not break stuff and features, we need to bring _in ocata and downwards_ ansible-hardening into the releases, potentially breaking the release validation process. Should we separate deliverables of hardening, due to the fact they are something we merely consume? Or do you hav | 18:01 |
evrardjp | e another idea? | 18:01 |
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evrardjp | I guess I could technically rename them all, but it doesn't make sense per se, and an old release should be an old release, we shouldn't touch it. | 18:11 |
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evrardjp | and the other way around would be to completely not consider this as part of our releases in the future | 18:15 |
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dhellmann | evrardjp : I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean. | 18:19 |
evrardjp | sorry for my poor english | 18:19 |
dhellmann | was the openstack-ansible-security repository renamed? or the deliverable? (is that the same thing)? | 18:20 |
evrardjp | yes | 18:20 |
evrardjp | renamed | 18:20 |
dhellmann | no, no, your english is fine, it's the situation I don't understand :-) | 18:20 |
evrardjp | just right before releasing Pike, to make things simpler. | 18:20 |
evrardjp | so everything that we still release now need to be moved to that | 18:20 |
dhellmann | so you want to add ansible-hardening to new releases for the ocata series? | 18:21 |
evrardjp | yes | 18:21 |
evrardjp | and newton | 18:21 |
evrardjp | but I don't know how to deal with renamed repositories | 18:21 |
dhellmann | and I guess that really replaces the old name | 18:21 |
dhellmann | ok | 18:21 |
dhellmann | that should be fine | 18:21 |
dhellmann | just leave all of the old data as it is, and add the new repo to the new releases | 18:21 |
evrardjp | but that's what I did | 18:21 |
dhellmann | oh, is that the patch that was failing validation? | 18:22 |
evrardjp | yes | 18:22 |
evrardjp | well | 18:22 |
evrardjp | that patch was for pike, but it's the same cause | 18:23 |
dhellmann | ah | 18:23 |
evrardjp | Pike itself should never have been released with that, so I am on the verge of removing it OR renaming it for new ones | 18:23 |
evrardjp | depending on what you'll propose | 18:23 |
dhellmann | well, since the repository was renamed, it would make sense to update the values in the old releases | 18:23 |
evrardjp | mmm | 18:24 |
dhellmann | was the new repository tagged for those releases? | 18:24 |
evrardjp | that's where I beg to differ, a release itself was, at that time, openstack-ansible-security, nt ansible-hardening | 18:24 |
evrardjp | yes | 18:24 |
evrardjp | technically it's fine I think | 18:24 |
evrardjp | it's more conceptually that I wonder if we should do that | 18:25 |
dhellmann | part of the point of having the history in the releases repo is to help someone reproduce that release, but if the repository was renamed then they'll need the new name anyway | 18:25 |
evrardjp | I think the old repo still exists | 18:25 |
evrardjp | the new repo was just a copy of the old one | 18:25 |
dhellmann | ah | 18:26 |
evrardjp | and we renamed all the references | 18:26 |
evrardjp | but even, when you think about it, it's not only about the code itself | 18:26 |
dhellmann | maybe that explains why the validation is failing. it can check out the old repository but it does not find the tags. | 18:26 |
evrardjp | it's about how we can consume it | 18:26 |
evrardjp | oh well fun stuff, it's even more a mess than that. | 18:27 |
dhellmann | so are you saying that the old release info is no longer accurate somehow? | 18:28 |
evrardjp | so the old releases are fine | 18:28 |
evrardjp | they match exactly the code and their repositories | 18:29 |
dhellmann | ok | 18:29 |
evrardjp | so I propose to not touch that | 18:29 |
evrardjp | :D | 18:29 |
dhellmann | +1 | 18:29 |
evrardjp | apparently the new one was copied, but we continue to release the old ones, with no changes, while the new one got new stuff, but skipped a few tags. Which makes it funier. | 18:29 |
dhellmann | hrm | 18:30 |
evrardjp | (sorry I am discovering this at the same time as you, I should have been more prepared of friendly gifts like that!) | 18:30 |
dhellmann | well, smcginnis is in charge of handing out demerits this cycle, so no worries. just don't tell him. :-) | 18:30 |
evrardjp | which makes sense, we never had "hardening" as a release for Ocata, so we kept tagging "security" | 18:31 |
dhellmann | sure | 18:31 |
evrardjp | everything makes sense when you account the life of these interdependent projects, but releasing them together is a nightmare, I guess you know it :p | 18:32 |
dhellmann | it seems like the right course of action is to simply use the new repository for new releases from that series | 18:32 |
evrardjp | yes, but that blocks too | 18:32 |
evrardjp | let me show you | 18:32 |
dhellmann | yes, this is why we encourage project teams to consider not bundling so many repositories into a single release | 18:32 |
dhellmann | sorry, into a single deliverable | 18:32 |
dhellmann | tag them independently | 18:33 |
evrardjp | makes sense. | 18:33 |
evrardjp | that's what I think we should do with this special case | 18:33 |
evrardjp | I think you just confirmed my feeling | 18:33 |
evrardjp | this one had a different "lifecycle" so it deserves a different relase | 18:33 |
evrardjp | I will not include "hardening" in the future releases, and this way the old ones are fine, and the new ones should be ok | 18:34 |
evrardjp | thanks for your expertise! | 18:34 |
evrardjp | again | 18:34 |
dhellmann | I guess we have to consider whether it makes sense to add a deliverable to an old series, though. We don't usually do that. | 18:34 |
dhellmann | what I would suggest is adding the repo to new releases of the existing deliverable on old series, and splitting the deliverable up into a bunch of separate things for queens. | 18:35 |
* smcginnis chuckles at the scrollback | 18:35 | |
evrardjp | well technically you don't pull new dependencies during the life of the project. so it should never happen | 18:35 |
evrardjp | I am not glad to be a special case | 18:35 |
dhellmann | does the hardening repository have an ocata branch? | 18:36 |
evrardjp | it does | 18:36 |
dhellmann | ok | 18:37 |
dhellmann | we might want to release from that under the _independent directory to avoid adding new things to the official ocata release | 18:38 |
dhellmann | this is usually the sort of question that ttx has a good feel for, so we should get him to weigh in | 18:38 |
dhellmann | I think our options are: | 18:38 |
dhellmann | 1. add the new repo to the next ocata release of the existing deliverable | 18:39 |
dhellmann | 2. define a new ocata deliverable for the new repo | 18:39 |
dhellmann | 3. define a new independent deliverable for the ocata releases from that repo | 18:39 |
dhellmann | and I think I would go with 1 or 3 | 18:39 |
evrardjp | (to make things simpler, you can multiply by 2, with newton...) | 18:39 |
evrardjp | I'd go for 3 | 18:40 |
dhellmann | sure, we would take the same approach | 18:40 |
smcginnis | As long as the stable branches exist, should be able to do either one easily. | 18:40 |
evrardjp | but I am glad we talked | 18:40 |
dhellmann | smcginnis : yeah, the question is really about how we define "the ocata openstack release" | 18:40 |
dhellmann | we have a deadline for adding new deliverables to it (milestone 2, irrc) | 18:41 |
evrardjp | yeah because https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508146/2/deliverables/ocata/openstack-ansible.yaml isn't enough for 1) | 18:41 |
evrardjp | sorry for the wall of text there, just for one repo :p | 18:41 |
smcginnis | evrardjp: Nah, good to figure this out. | 18:41 |
smcginnis | dhellmann: That's a good point. May be a good reason to go with _independent. | 18:42 |
dhellmann | yeah | 18:42 |
evrardjp | let me check about the impact of that, and how I should change things. But you helped tremendously | 18:43 |
evrardjp | thanks dhellmann and smcginnis! | 18:49 |
dhellmann | evrardjp : any time! | 18:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno master: update ref search logic for zuulv3 CI layout https://review.openstack.org/508324 | 21:53 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/reno master: update ref search logic for zuulv3 CI layout https://review.openstack.org/508324 | 21:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: pike: release python-novaclient 9.1.1 https://review.openstack.org/508331 | 22:12 |
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dhellmann | stephenfin, ttx, dims: we could use one more +2 on the reno patch https://review.openstack.org/508324 and then we'll want to cut a release to unblock those gate jobs | 22:40 |
dhellmann | I will self-merge tomorrow if someone hasn't beaten me to it | 22:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: newton: release python-novaclient 6.0.2 https://review.openstack.org/508343 | 22:44 |
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