Thursday, 2018-02-15

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openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/releases master: Neutron RC2
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dtantsurfolks, smcginnis, ttx or who is around. I have a feeling that we ended up with something weird in ironic-inspector stable/queens09:53
dtantsurit seems like one of backports ended up with zuul merging master in09:53
dtantsurwhich is not a disaster because nothing bad landed in master, but I'm worried anyway09:53
dtantsurTheJulia: FYI ^^^09:54
dtantsurcheck "Remove redundant "the" from a docstring" and "Update reno for stable/queens" are from master09:54
dtantsurit feels like something is broken about it is against stable/queens but its parent is from master.. how is it even possible?09:56
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ttxdtantsur: did the pike backport also corrupt the stable/pike branch ?10:04
dtantsurttx: lemme check10:04
dtantsurttx: pike looks okay at first glance10:05
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* dtantsur checks further10:05
dtantsurno, nothing suspicious in stable/pike10:05
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dtantsurI think zuul/gerrit/whatever should prevent merging patches with parent from a different branch. at least by default.10:06
ttxdtantsur: maybe it's somethign that can happen if you don't check out the stable/queens branch at all before proposing, and Gerrit does not show or hate it10:06
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ttxagreed we need some kind of protection aganist this10:07
ttxsince Gerrit diff does not show it at all10:07
dtantsuryep, it's nearly impossible to see it on review10:07
ttxIt's more of an infra topic than a release topic though10:07
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ttxis there anything we should do release-wise to fix the issue?10:07
dtantsuryeah, sorry, was going to give a heads up to smcginnis because it will look strangely on the diff the next time we propose a release10:08
dtantsurttx: fortunately, nothing really bad managed to get in this way. so no.10:08
ttxlike is there anything we should revert on stable/queens10:08
dtantsurdo you know whom to ping about the issue?10:08
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ttxideally we'd be able to detect if it happened somewhere else10:08
ttxdtantsur: I'd say fungi since he is the resident infra team release liaison10:09
dtantsurttx: ack, I'll wait for fungi to appear. fungi, the context is ^^^^10:09
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* smcginnis reads scrollback13:04
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smcginnisdtantsur: So that one patch to stable/queens brought along additional commits that were to master?13:07
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dtantsursmcginnis: yep. fortunately, quite harmless13:09
smcginnisWeird. :S13:09
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smcginnisdhellmann! \o/13:22
smcginnisdhellmann: Were you able to disconnect and enjoy your time off?13:22
dhellmannsmcginnis : how do computers work again?13:23
dhellmannI'm getting better at disconnecting with practice. I recommend it.13:23
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dhellmannsmcginnis : how are things looking today? I'm catching up on notifications and email now13:30
smcginnisdhellmann: Good for the most part.13:30
smcginnisdhellmann: Only oddity I'm aware of is there was a patch to a stable branch that somehow brought along other changes from master.13:31
smcginnisdhellmann: But that's really an infra thing.13:31
dhellmannwe had that happen once before, I think13:31
smcginnisdhellmann: Otherwise, right now I'm just cleaning up some of the release activity patches I did too quickly. :]13:31
dhellmannin OSC13:31
dhellmannsomething to do with the way the backport was proposed13:31
dhellmannI think if you branch master, then cherry-pick, then propose the patch to queens you end up with that case13:32
smcginnisOnly think I could think is it was done on master but then "git review stable/queens" to submit or something.13:32
dhellmanninstead of branching queens to start13:32
dhellmannyeah, exactly13:32
smcginnisI suppose that makes sense, though a bit surprising.13:32
dhellmanneverything in git is a branch, right?13:33
dhellmannI thought we had gerrit configured so only certain people could propose merge commits, but if this didn't need to produce a merge commit that wouldn't have helped us anyway13:35
ttxWe've been making slow but steady progress on the week tasks13:40
ttxStill a bit of uncertainty on how to do the later patches in a zuulv3 world13:40
ttxsmcginnis: I reviewed (-1) the two patches we have in the pipe)13:41
smcginnisFixing that up now.13:42
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smcginnisttx: I would like to merge, then backport that and set the stable branches.13:49
smcginnisttx: Let me know what you think of that approach.13:49
ttxsmcginnis: sounds less error-prone... Note that a few in there are cyel-trailing and are still missing their queens branches (like os-apply-config)13:50
dhellmannso what's the concern with zuul? the fact that some of the jobs are defined in-tree?13:51
ttxdhellmann: I think it's more that the example patch no longer applies as well13:51
ttx(I think)13:51
dhellmannoh, sure13:51
smcginnisYeah, it's all updating jenkins stuff.13:52
smcginnisSo I wasn't really sure what the new equivalent would be.13:52
dhellmannhave you worked that out, or should I look into it?13:52
smcginnisdhellmann: I was going to spend some time on that today, but had not had a chance to yet.13:52
smcginnisdhellmann: You have a better grasp on all the ansible bits, so if you have time to look, that would make me feel better. ;)13:53
ttxsmcginnis: commented13:53
dhellmannok, let me spend a little time on it13:53
smcginnisttx: Oh, good point.13:53
dhellmannsmcginnis : so you're talking about steps 8-10 under the RC1 section?13:56
smcginnisdevstack patch updated.13:56
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dhellmannsmcginnis : I think we're going to have to get some of the infra folks to help us with these patches. I have no idea how any of these jobs work any more.14:04
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fungidtantsur|brb: catching up now14:12
fungidtantsur|brb: ttx: that's a known (and fairly intentional) behavior in gerrit though we and others have brought up to them in the past that perhaps it should be configurable to refuse changes to a branch which include parents only found on another branch14:14
ttxfungi: yeah, it's hard to see in the review14:15
fungithe upstream gerrit opinion in the past was that those parent changes have already been reviewed and merged, so why should it matter they're on another branch? we seem to have a somewhat unique backport workflow which makes it slightly more likely that people propose something like that accidentally14:15
dhellmannyeah, most other projects merge things between branches instead of using cherry-picks14:16
dhellmannbecause why wouldn't you want the entire history of everything up to that patch?14:16
dhellmannfungi : I could use some help figuring out how to update our branching process under zuul v3. Do you have time to help with that today? (I posed a more detailed question in -infra)14:17
fungittx: dtantsur|brb: it looks like maybe a solution finally landed in 2.13 after alllll these years, so we should probably test it out and see if it's likely to cause other issues for us:
fungiclarkb: ^ not sure if you saw that changed in 2.1314:18
fungidhellmann: i'll catch up and follow up there. mostly trying to spot emergencies first and then will get up with you14:19
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dhellmannfungi : thanks14:24
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smcginnisfungi: We are currently on 2.13 and planning on 2.14 in the near-ish future, right?14:38
fungismcginnis: yes. hoping to carve out some time at the ptg to do 2.14 planning but that means newer java which means newer distro version which means new server...14:41
fungia bit bigger jump than 2.13 was14:41
smcginnisThat's it?14:41
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fungilots of things we haven't tested yet so will likely break it into a couple of separate maintenances (one for new server running new distro with new java, then a second maintenance to move to newer gerrit)14:42
smcginnisfungi: Might be worth waiting for 18.10 at this point.14:42
fungithat's tempting, but i don't know if we want to jump on 18.10 so soon after it releases for such an important service14:43
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dtantsurfungi: ah, cool. thanks for investigation!14:49
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fungidtantsur: well, i did the investigation back in 2014 (hence my reply on that gerrit bug report)14:51
fungibut you're welcome none the less!14:51
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic-inspector 7.2.0 for Queens
dtantsursmcginnis, TheJulia ^^^15:01
dtantsurthe diff is a bit weird because of the issue discussed above..15:01
TheJuliadtantsur: thanks!15:01
lbragstadsmcginnis here is a list of our last few stable reviews before cutting RC2
lbragstadgoing to try and have them merged by EOD15:03
smcginnisdtantsur: Is that this?
smcginnislbragstad: Sounds good, thanks!15:03
dtantsursmcginnis: sorry, I don't quite get the question. note that you're pointing at the client, while we're releasing the server.15:04
smcginnisdtantsur: OK, that was kind of the question. Wasn't sure if that was the same thing or not.15:04
lbragstadsmcginnis i might as for stable reviews later if you're available :)15:05
smcginnislbragstad: Sure, just let me know. ;)15:05
dtantsursmcginnis: for background: we have two services, ironic and ironic-inspector, and two clients for them, python-ironicclient and python-ironic-inspector-client15:05
smcginnisdtantsur: Cool, thanks. I just recently learned of the -inspector stuff, so just getting up to speed there.15:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ironic-inspector 7.2.0 for Queens
ttxsmcginnis, dhellmann I'll be gone by the time you get up tomorrow, so if there is anything you need from me for the coming week let me know now :)15:28
smcginnisttx: We need you to stay away from the big drops.15:28
dhellmannttx: I'm still catching up so I'm not aware of anything.15:28
dhellmannyes, please be careful, but have a good time :-)15:28
smcginnis should be a quick easy one.15:31
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dhellmannsmcginnis : are you ready for me to approve that one?15:39
smcginnisdhellmann: Yep, I think it should be good to go.15:41
dhellmann done15:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add queens release note links
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add queens release note link for Blazar
mordreddhellmann, ttx, smcginnis: I don't show any os-service-types entries in the release repo ... I *think* we decided to not have it be releae managed because it's a bit different - but I wanted to doublecheck on that before pushing a tag16:05
dhellmannmordred : I think we said it could go under _independent if you wanted to, but that it didn't have to16:06
dhellmannmordred : if you want release announcements it'll be easier to use the releases repo16:07
dhellmannor maybe at least use project-config/jenkins/scripts/release-tools/ by hand16:07
dhellmannthe announce script gives up if it can't find some of the metadata that script adds16:08
mordreddhellmann: I think putting it in _indepenent sounds like the best bet16:08
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release 1.2.0 of os-service-types
mordreddhellmann, smcginnis: ^^ I think I did that correctly16:12
dhellmannlet's see if zuul agrees...16:12
dhellmannlgtm though16:12
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smcginnisdhellmann: Do we need repository-settings in there?16:15
dhellmannsmcginnis : oh, yeah, we will now16:16
dhellmanngood catch16:16
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dhellmannsmcginnis : I'm far enough back in my email backlog that I'm seeing release failures. Is it safe to assume those are all resolved?16:20
dhellmannthe first one I hit was monasca-ui from the 13th16:20
smcginnisYeah, I believe we sorted out everything.16:20
smcginnisfungi: Wasn't there something we were going to look into though. I seem to remember something that we decided we would have to go back and investigate, but it wasn't anything time critical.16:21
smcginnisdhellmann: One thing you may want to check is we disabled the pypi check that was just added.16:21
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smcginnisdhellmann: We ran into an issue where we were getting None back from the pypi API. Manual check of the package had all the right things (openstackci) so we just disabled it for now.16:22
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smcginnisdhellmann: I believe it was on calling to get the roles.16:22
fungismcginnis: on;y think i remember was needing to fix the python release jobs to guess a branch from the tag, and we got that worknig subsequently a couple days ago16:22
dhellmannsmcginnis : ok, I'll take a look16:23
fungioh, though i only assume it worked. i need to look at the log16:23
fungithanks for the reminder!16:23
smcginnisfungi: I think that's all working now.16:23
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smcginnisWill have to look at logs. Something at the back of my mind that there was something to check out, but looks like I didn't write it down.16:24
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clarkbfungi: looks like the config default on reject implicit merges is inherit so in theory we can set that on all projects and be done16:25
clarkband no I hadn't realized that issue was addressed in 2.1316:25
fungismcginnis: yep, agreed, this looks right finally:
smcginnisfungi: Great, thanks!16:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release 1.2.0 of os-service-types
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: import the old onboarding presentation
ttxsmcginnis, dhellmann: ok about to unplug for today. Still working tomorrow morning so can process whatever you need then. Have a good R-1 while I'm off17:37
dhellmannttx: enjoy your down time!17:37
smcginnisThanks ttx - have a good holiday!17:38
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: stub in presentation for rocky ptg
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AJaegersmcginnis, dhellmann, I'd like to move the release scripts around in project-config, see change . Can we test this change once it's in on your test repo? When is a good time to merge this?18:30
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dhellmannAJaeger : no more release job changes until after the PTG please18:31
dhellmannwe're already in a state where the release team doesn't know how to finish the end-of-cycle process because a bunch of jobs were moved/changed18:32
dhellmannand we've had our fill of failures due to reconfigurations this cycle18:32
smcginnisI agree, after the PTG would be preferred.18:33
AJaegerok, gave a WIP to it...18:34
AJaegerdhellmann: i can now look into those jobs, have your questions been answered - or how can I help?18:34
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dhellmannAJaeger: andreaf was looking into what needs to be done, so if you could help him that would probably be the most effective way to move things ahead18:36
AJaegerlet me ask on #openstack-infra since that where it started...18:37
dhellmannAJaeger, smcginnis: when we *are* ready to update that job, I would like to understand the pros/cons of moving it to the releases repo.18:40
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dhellmannsmcginnis : how long do we have for this presentation at the ptg?18:45
smcginnisdhellmann: Not sure. 30 minutes?18:46
smcginnisOr aim for 20-25 to be safe and have time for any questions I suppose.18:47
clarkbttx said its 30 minutes max iirc. Shooting for 20 minutes of presentation time is probably best18:47
dhellmannwhat was the primary thing we wanted to focus on?18:47
smcginnisclarkb: THanks18:47
dhellmannthanks, clarkb18:47
smcginnisdhellmann: I was thinking an overview of what the different release types are, how they fit in to a typical release cycle. Why we do things like lib freeze, then client freeze leading up to RC.18:48
dhellmannit might be easier to collaborate using an etherpad and then I can turn that into slides18:49
dhellmannsmcginnis :
smcginnisThat's a good idea.18:49
smcginnisHah, ship it. :)18:51
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AJaegerdhellmann: let's first merge my change - and then we can still mvoe it over.18:54
dhellmannAJaeger : ok, wfm. I'm not 100% sure we want to move it; but I would like to understand whether it's a good idea or not.18:54
AJaegerProblem right now: There are at least two jobs that use those scripts and we need to check whether those need any of our secrets. If they do, we should keep it in project-config18:55
AJaegerdhellmann: but let's discuss that at another time...18:56
dhellmannI wonder what we have using the release scripts aside from tag-releases, but sure, that makes sense.18:56
AJaegerdhellmann: playbooks/proposal/propose-update-constraints.yaml and playbooks/release/tag.yaml use the scripts18:59
dhellmannAJaeger : ok. I don't know what that first one is. I wonder if it only uses part of the scripts, though.19:00
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smcginnisAJaeger, dhellmann: The ones I've checked so far all find the expected location based of the current files location, so as long as they all move, looks like it should be safe.19:00
AJaegersmcginnis: they all move together - I copied the complete directory19:00
dhellmannsmcginnis : yeah, I think I did that defensively because I didn't really know where they would live on the node. it has the side-effect of making it possible to run the scripts by hand locally, which has turned out to be nice.19:00
AJaegerdhellmann: the first job is propose-update-constraints19:01
dhellmannAJaeger : is that the periodic job that updates the constraints list in the requirements repo?19:01
AJaegerdhellmann: that is run as part of release process whenever you tag something19:02
AJaegerdhellmann: it generates these "update constraint for os-service-types to new release 1.2.0" changes19:03
dhellmannAJaeger : ok, I wasn't aware that step was split out into its own role or whatever. I thought it just happened as part of the release script19:03
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smcginnisWeren't we going to do something about having duplication between openstack-infra/release-tools and openstack-infra/project-config/jenkins/scripts/release-tools?19:03
dhellmannoh, wait, I do remember splitting that out into its own job19:03
dhellmannsmcginnis : the first repo is basically a sandbox now, nothing in CI actually uses it19:03
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smcginnisdhellmann: I wonder if we should put that through the official retirement process so it's not bitrotting and doesn't cause confusion.19:05
dhellmannAJaeger : we might want just the tag-releases job to move to the releases repo, with the jobs that run after zuul sees the tag to stay in project-config19:05
dhellmannsmcginnis : it has some tools that people use by hand for doing things like bulk updates to launchpad19:05
smcginnisAh, ok.19:05
dhellmannso it's not dead, it's just sort of a place we put things that don't fit somewhere else19:05
smcginnisMoving tag-releases in-repo seems reasonable to me.19:06
AJaegerdhellmann, smcginnis, might be a nice discussion at the PTG with some infra folks. I have no direct preference.19:06
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AJaegerdhellmann: so, with 542639  - wait until after PTG?19:11
dhellmannAJaeger : yeah, I really need the sands to stop changing out from under me19:11
AJaegerdhellmann: ok19:11
dhellmannI'm sure it's fine. I don't want to find out I'm wrong because we can't tag the final releases.19:12
smcginnisWe've had enough of those kinds of milestons this cycle. ;)19:13
dhellmannright. let's just finish what we're doing.19:13
dhellmannsmcginnis : do you think we can work the stuff about release models into the schedule section somewhere naturally?19:14
smcginnisdhellmann: Not sure where it would fit and not be glossed over as a secondary point. Maybe open with the different models, then describe the cycle that they fit into?19:15
dhellmannthat makes sense19:16
dhellmannsmcginnis : I think we cover the release types stuff as part of the milestone 3 section where we talk about freezing different things. Can you think of any other aspect of that we need to cover elsewhere?19:19
dhellmannoh, and I added a thing about pypi to the planned changes list19:19
smcginnisOh good, that will be a good thing to bring up in front of everyone.19:22
dhellmannafter we've done this, we should write it up as a document, too19:23
dhellmannthe presentation text, that is19:23
smcginnisDefinitely. There's been a few times it would have been useful to have this to send to different folks.19:23
dhellmannok, I'll start turning these notes into slides19:23
smcginnisI've been meaning to write a blog post about our release process, but I'm not too good about keeping up on blogging. :)19:24
smcginnisdhellmann: I think this looks like a great outline.19:24
smcginnisI would bet the majority of the community is not aware of a lot of this, so could be a really useful presentation.19:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: New tooz release for msgpack rename
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: draft of presentation for rocky ptg
dhellmannsmcginnis : ^^20:06
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: stub in presentation for rocky ptg
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack-infra/release-tools master: draft of presentation for rocky ptg
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smcginnisdhellmann: I'm hoping to get this merged to devstack master, then backport to stable/queens to get step 4 of our RC1 process done:
smcginnisdhellmann: If you have a moment, might be good to get your eyes on that too.20:37
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lbragstadsmcginnis i'm not sure if our other stable core is around today - if you have time to take a peak at it'd be greatly appreciated20:49
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smcginnislbragstad: Sure, I'll take a look now.20:51
lbragstadsmcginnis thanks20:51
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dhellmannsmcginnis : +121:11
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EmilienMsmcginnis: hey, question for you22:25
smcginnisEmilienM: Sure, what's up?22:25
EmilienMsmcginnis: mwhahaha and I are looking at cycle-highlights and were wondering if we could do it for only one repo, and that would count for the whole tripleo project22:26
EmilienMor if we need cycle-highlights per repo22:26
smcginnisEmilienM: Nope, you're are right. The highlights are per team, not per repo. So you would only need to add them to one place.22:26
smcginniss/you're are/you are/22:27
smcginnisEmilienM: You can certainly add some things in multiple deliverable files, but they will all get combined under one team section in the final output.22:27
mwhahahagood to know22:28
EmilienMthanks smcginnis !!22:28
smcginnisEmilienM, mwhahaha: Any questions while you fill that out, just let me know.22:28
EmilienMwe will22:28
openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli proposed openstack/releases master: Update RC1 process docs for zuulv3
andreafsmcginnis dhellmann update for RC1 point 8 ^^^22:30
andreafsmcginnis dhellmann I'll work on points 9 and 10 as well, but not today, it's getting late22:30
dhellmannandreaf : that's a great help, thank you!22:30
smcginnisandreaf: Thank you!22:31
andreafnp - I'll work on the email updates as well22:32
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* prometheanfire is going to start packaging queens tonight (keystone/glance probably)22:40
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openstackgerritAlex Schultz proposed openstack/releases master: Add TripleO cycle highlights for Queens
openstackgerritArmando Migliaccio proposed openstack/releases master: Neutron RC2
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mlavallearmax: hey23:18
armaxmlavalle: hi23:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Request for release of Sahara Pike 7.0.2
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: nova: release pike 16.1.0
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Congress 6.0.1 maintenance release
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: congress 5.0.1 maintenance release
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