Thursday, 2018-02-22

dhellmannfungi : we think so, yeah00:00
dhellmannthe output from the job doesn't actually say "this was triggered from tag X"00:00
dhellmannI wonder if there's a way to make it say that?00:00
fungican you reiterate the link to the specific build log you're looking at?00:03
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dhellmannhttp://logs.openstack.org/52/525513cbeac183ec4ec88ba08dd8b220c31a9ce1/release/release-openstack-python-without-pypi/15fa138/00:05
dhellmannI was looking first in job_output...00:05
dhellmannbut eventually found it in zuul-info/inventory.yaml00:05
dhellmannas the "checkout" value associated with the repository00:05
dhellmannoh, and I see it now as "tag" there, too00:05
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fungiyou can git show that id, probably00:22
funginewrev: 525513cbeac183ec4ec88ba08dd8b220c31a9ce100:22
fungicheckout: '2010.1'00:22
fungifrom the zuul-info/inventory.yaml00:22
fungithough, yeah, git show says00:23
fungifatal: bad object 525513cbeac183ec4ec88ba08dd8b220c31a9ce100:23
fungii'm guessing that predates when we tagged releases00:23
fungiref: refs/tags/2010.100:24
fungii'm definitely not finding that in nova's tag list though00:24
fungidhellmann: oh! gerrit has tags for added new tags not on git.o.o :/00:27
fungi* [new tag]               2010.1        -> 2010.100:27
fungi* [new tag]               2011.1        -> 2011.100:27
fungii'm guessing it can't replicate them for some reason00:27
dhellmannfungi : the value in the URL within the log file didn't show up when I ran git show in my nova clone00:28
fungibut after i remote update from gerrit i can git show those00:28
fungiboth the 525513cbeac183ec4ec88ba08dd8b220c31a9ce1 id and the 2010.1 tag00:28
dhellmann"Job release-openstack-python-without-pypi triggered from https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?id=525513cbeac183ec4ec88ba08dd8b220c31a9ce1"00:28
dhellmannthat URL appears to refer to a bad commit00:28
dhellmannmaybe I didn't actually run git show of that00:28
fungihttp://paste.openstack.org/show/68074500:29
clarkbthat shows up as a new tag for me too :/00:29
fungiand http://paste.openstack.org/show/68074700:29
fungiboth have Wed Feb 21 for their date00:30
dhellmannoh, so it did actually add those tags?00:30
fungi2018 i should say00:30
fungiyeah, it pushed them to gerrit at least00:30
clarkbmight check the gerrit task queue, replication may just be behind00:30
dhellmannI wonder why those tags wouldn't have existed already00:31
fungiespecially if it had to conjure up a bunch of old commits to replicate00:31
fungidhellmann: they might predate us tagging releases in git00:31
fungilike, predate our migration from bzr to git?00:31
dhellmannhmm00:31
fungimordred: ^ ?00:31
clarkb2010 would certainly be in that time frame00:31
dhellmannthat one is from the austin series, I think00:31
dhellmannso it could be00:32
dhellmannwell, that's fun00:32
fungiwe've repaired gaps in our history? ;)00:32
dhellmannyay?00:32
fungiyeah, http://tarballs.openstack.org/nova/ shows a bunch of "bzr" snapshots for 2010.1 and 2011.100:33
fungibetter late than never, i guess00:34
dhellmannok. well, we had a bunch of jobs fail because the repos didn't match so we don't have the build artifacts, so I hope we at least tagged the right commits00:35
fungiit's only been delayed for... 8 years00:35
fungisee those pastes. at least the commits they tagged were of the appropriate vintage00:35
fungiprobably good enough. after nearly a decade, tagging something from the right year sounds like it's about as accurate as anybody's likely to care anyway00:36
fungiof course, if these are in the process of replicating to git.o.o, anyone doing a git remote update of an existing nova clone will be getting a longer delay than usual00:38
fungimine sat and churned pulling ew refs from gerrit for a couple minutes solid00:38
fungier, pulling new refs00:38
fungithough git.o.o _should_ be faster for that than gerrit00:42
fungifor the record, the change of snapshot tarball naming patterns on 2011-06-01 makes me suspect that's the day we switched from bzr to git00:43
fungiduring diablo milestone 100:44
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annabelleBsmcginnis: thanks for getting to those cycle-highlights so fast today!00:56
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dhellmannfungi : cool, thanks for that01:07
dhellmannfungi : if I proposed a series of 38 patches would zuul fall over?01:08
dhellmannI did a bunch of refactoring of the validation code in the releases repo and I'm trying to keep the patches small because of how complicated that code became01:08
dhellmann(before the refactor)01:08
dhellmannideally we could review the changes separately then I could land them all01:09
dhellmannmaybe we have to do the reviews in smaller batches though01:09
dhellmann*land them all at the same time01:09
dhellmannthough I guess I could squash the series after it has been reviewed01:09
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fungidhellmann: if it's a series of 38 patches with zuul configuration changes then maybe, but a series of 38 patches of normal diff content should be fine01:12
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dhellmannfungi : ok, yeah, it's just a bunch of small changes to openstack/releases and none of it touches any zuul files01:18
dhellmannI'm going to run all of the tests locally before I propose the series to avoid having to send it multiple times01:19
dhellmannmy computer has nothing better to do tonight anyway :-)01:19
fungialternative would be to record the git log shas for your series and then do a checkout of each in order and push those with a sleep in between if you really wanted01:21
fungibut honestly i'd just push them all (bonus points if you can figure out in advance that they probably won't need rebasing or commit edits neat the start of the series)01:22
fungis/neat/near/01:22
dhellmannyeah, git rebase -x is letting me run the test jobs individually01:25
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dhellmannassuming those all pass, I will try to find a quiet time to push the series. Like maybe saturday morning.01:25
dhellmannor "late" one evening01:25
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fungieven this time of day is likely fine. check and gate pipelines are already pretty short. nothing waiting in post which is the usual giveaway that we're backlogged01:42
fungiand if the repo doesn't call a ton of long-running jobs, it won't really suck up much resource-wise01:42
fungiat least not for long01:42
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openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/releases master: Release keystone 13.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54684101:57
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/releases master: Release keystone 13.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54684101:58
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openstackgerritTom Barron proposed openstack/releases master: Release  Manila 6.0.0.0rc3  https://review.openstack.org/54685903:54
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openstackgerritzhurong proposed openstack/releases master: Release Murano 5.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54686003:58
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openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/releases master: Release Glance 16.0.0.0rc3  https://review.openstack.org/54686104:00
openstackgerritzhurong proposed openstack/releases master: Release Murano-dashboard 5.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54686204:01
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openstackgerritzhurong proposed openstack/releases master: Release Murano 5.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54686004:08
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openstackgerritzhurong proposed openstack/releases master: Release Murano-dashboard 5.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54686204:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Cloudkitty-dashboard 7.0.0 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54672204:49
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/releases master: Release neutron FWaaS/VPNaaS dashboards for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54689006:50
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/releases master: Release Tempest 18.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/54690608:02
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis (strigazi) proposed openstack/releases master: Release magnum-ui queens 4.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/54692208:49
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis (strigazi) proposed openstack/releases master: Release magnum-ui queens 4.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/54692209:05
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openstackgerritJuan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/releases master: Release tripleo-ipsec microversion  https://review.openstack.org/54697613:04
rosmaitapretty quiet in here this morning13:11
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smcginnisrosmaita: Hopefully that's a good sign.13:23
rosmaitasmcginnis: hope so! here is something for your reading pleasure: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546861/113:24
smcginnisrosmaita: Excellent, I was just about to take a look at what came in over night.13:24
smcginnisrosmaita: That's a good place to start. ;)13:24
rosmaita:)13:24
smcginnisrosmaita: Which reminds me... might want to put your name on here now: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Release_management13:25
rosmaitasmcginnis thanks ... let me verify with jokke that that fits in with his plans13:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Glance 16.0.0.0rc3  https://review.openstack.org/54686113:33
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dtantsurJFYI smcginnis: we're waiting for 1-2 patches to merge before tagging a queens bugfix release for ironic13:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release  Manila 6.0.0.0rc3  https://review.openstack.org/54685913:45
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dhellmanno/13:49
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smcginnisdtantsur: OK, thanks!14:13
smcginnisMorning dhellmann14:13
* dhellmann has Weird Al's "Eat It" stuck in his head this morning for some reason and is sobbing into his tea as a result14:15
smcginnisI feel very sorry for you. :)14:17
smcginnisMaybe move on to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg14:18
dhellmannI'm trying a Fountains of Wayne album to clear my head14:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Murano 5.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54686014:26
openstackgerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/releases master: Release puppet-ceph 2.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/54700214:26
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openstackgerritMichaƂ Dulko proposed openstack/releases master: Release kuryr-kubernetes 0.4.1 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54700514:36
openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis (strigazi) proposed openstack/releases master: Release magnum-ui queens 4.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/54692214:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Murano-dashboard 5.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54686214:52
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fungismcginnis: dhellmann: i find they might be giants capable of clearing most songs from my head (at the risk of replacing them with something even more insidious)14:59
fungidead milkmen or camper van beethoven are probably close seconds though14:59
dhellmannfungi : I would rather have Red Dragon Tatoo in my head than Eat It *any day*14:59
fungialso, those ancient nova tags did eventually replicate to git.o.o: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/refs/tags14:59
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dhellmannheh14:59
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fungiso anybody doing a remote update will end up getting some new history15:00
fungiit apparently took gerrit many hours to replicate all the refs necessary to represent them15:00
smcginnisBut no branches, right.15:00
fungiyeah, no new branches15:01
smcginnisSo I guess the scripts just saw tags that were not present and kind of did the right thing?15:01
smcginnisGlance too: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/glance/refs/tags15:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release keystone 13.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54684115:02
fungiyeah, all in all, i'm happy we have tags for those now even if the dates on the tags themselves aren't representative (the commits they tagged still look like the correct era)15:02
smcginnisLooks like it was a good thing. Though just a bit scary because of it being unexpected.15:03
amotokidhellmann: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546890/, do we need to bump the minor version when only test-requirements.txt is updated? (requirements.txt is not updated)15:04
dhellmannamotoki : we usually do, yes15:05
mnasersmcginnis: puppet-ceph ready for release, thanks for the rechecks15:05
smcginnismnaser: ack, will take another look shortly.15:05
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amotokidhellmann: i am a bit confused. In a stable branch, we usually only bump a patch version as we only accept bug fixes. I think my case is same. can global-requirements update in stable branches cause minor version bump?15:08
dhellmannamotoki : we're in a special period of time between when the stable branch has been created and when no releases have been done on master15:09
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dhellmannduring that time, we do update the minor version on the stable branch to make it as accurate as possible15:09
dhellmannthe minimums for the stable branch are frozen now, so there should not be future updates of that sort15:09
amotokidhellmann: I see. makes sense.15:10
dhellmannafter the first release on master, then there will be an upper bound for the version numbers we can use on the stable branch, so we just update the patch level15:10
amotokithanks for clarification15:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release tripleo-ipsec microversion  https://review.openstack.org/54697615:16
openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/releases master: Release neutron FWaaS/VPNaaS dashboards for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54689015:17
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smcginnisdhellmann: Should I get those presentation patches merged, then we can make any updates with follow ups?15:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release magnum-ui queens 4.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/54692215:29
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dhellmannsmcginnis : good thinking; I forgot about those15:30
dhellmannsmcginnis : let me know if you have any trouble making the presentation stuff work on your system. It can be finiky.15:31
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smcginnisWill do.15:32
openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/releases master: nova: release queens RC3  https://review.openstack.org/54703115:34
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openstackgerritmelanie witt proposed openstack/releases master: nova: release queens RC3  https://review.openstack.org/54703115:42
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openstackgerritEric Berglund proposed openstack/releases master: Release ceilometer-powervm Queens RC2 (6.0.0.0rc2)  https://review.openstack.org/54704015:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools master: stub in presentation for rocky ptg  https://review.openstack.org/54506616:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools master: draft of presentation for rocky ptg  https://review.openstack.org/54510516:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release puppet-ceph 2.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/54700216:06
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/releases master: Release oswin-tempest-plugin 0.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/54705716:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release neutron FWaaS/VPNaaS dashboards for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54689017:03
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openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: nova: release queens RC3  https://review.openstack.org/54703117:06
mriedemmelwitt: ^17:06
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/releases master: Release oswin-tempest-plugin 0.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/54705717:15
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release 1.27.0 for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54624017:18
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release shade 1.27.0 for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54624017:18
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prometheanfireglance 0.1.7 and 2011.2?17:20
openstackgerritWitold Bedyk proposed openstack/releases master: Release monasca-ui 1.12.1  https://review.openstack.org/54707617:23
prometheanfiresmcginnis: what's with all the old releases?17:26
smcginnisprometheanfire: Doug posted something to the ML, but basically we were updating some of the old deliverable files and the automation found a few releases that didn't actually have tags.17:27
prometheanfireah, ok17:28
prometheanfirefound it17:28
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic 10.1.1 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54707817:30
dtantsursmcginnis: ^^^17:30
smcginnisdtantsur: Thanks!17:30
smcginnisprometheanfire: It scared us a little when we saw some of the project's release jobs kick off, but apparently other than creating the tag, nothing else was affected.17:30
* dtantsur checks if he has tagged everything he's been responsible for17:31
mordredsmcginnis, prometheanfire: https://review.openstack.org/546240 should be good to go17:32
smcginnismordred: Looks like the highlights will need to be removed from there.17:32
mordredsmcginnis: oh yeah?17:32
smcginnismordred: If you rebase you will see the rest are gone.17:32
mordredkk. fixing17:32
smcginnismordred: We had deprecated them and now finally removed them.17:32
mordredsmcginnis: ah! neat17:33
prometheanfiremordred: smcginnis does the location for the queens branch need to be updated?17:33
smcginnisprometheanfire: Is that shade release granted a FFE?17:33
prometheanfireiirc it was17:33
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/releases master: Release virtualbmc 1.3.0  https://review.openstack.org/54707917:33
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release shade 1.27.0 for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54624017:33
smcginnisprometheanfire: No, the branch is created from that point. Subsequent releases are just off of that branch.17:33
prometheanfireok17:34
melwittmriedem: what is that new hash?17:34
smcginnismelwitt: Yeah, I'm not seeing that on stable/queens.17:36
mriedemmerge commit, in git.o.o17:36
mriedemsince it wasn't mirrored to github yet17:36
mriedemand actually,17:37
openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/releases master: Release sushy-tools 0.3.0  https://review.openstack.org/54708017:37
mriedemit looks like github mirrors are broken17:37
smcginnisOK, makes sense. I only looked on github.17:37
mriedemhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commits/stable/queens17:37
mriedem^ is old17:37
smcginnisYeah, checks on http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?h=stable/queens&id=a4a53bfa31e22bf1c377dca539ee1c7c7c05847c17:37
melwitturgh, okay17:40
melwittthanks17:40
openstackgerritWitold Bedyk proposed openstack/releases master: Release monasca-tempest-plugin 0.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/54708117:46
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openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/releases master: Release oswin-tempest-plugin 0.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/54705717:51
openstackgerritGraham Hayes proposed openstack/releases master: Release Designate Dashboard 6.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54708317:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: nova: release queens RC3  https://review.openstack.org/54703118:02
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openstackgerritEric Kao proposed openstack/releases master: Congress Queens RC2  https://review.openstack.org/54709318:24
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic-ui 3.1.1 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54710318:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release shade 1.27.0 for queens  https://review.openstack.org/54624019:15
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dhellmannsmcginnis : are you approving things one at a time?19:23
dhellmannseems like the safe thing to do, but maybe you weren't doing it on purpose19:23
smcginnisdhellmann: I have been metering things through, just to be safe.19:23
smcginnisProbably not really necessary.19:23
dhellmannok19:23
dhellmann*shrug*19:23
smcginnisBut there hasn't been a huge rush of patches either, so meh.19:24
dhellmannI just didn't want to slam a bunch of stuff in if you were going slowly on purpose19:24
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openstackgerritIfat Afek proposed openstack/releases master: Release vitrage 2.2.1  https://review.openstack.org/54711619:24
smcginnisLooking at what's out there - it's probably fine to just approve them all.19:24
smcginnisI was just enjoying a deadline day without spending so much time in -infra. ;)19:25
dhellmannI'm OK with going slowly in support of that goal :-)19:26
dhellmannI've reviewed all of the open items for queens and independent that pass the tests19:26
smcginnisNot that I don't enjoy spending time with those folks, but just for a change of pace.19:26
smcginnisDo you agree with my comment here: https://review.openstack.org/54704019:26
smcginnisDoesn't look like any reason for that one.19:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-ui 1.12.1  https://review.openstack.org/54707619:28
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: Release oswin-tempest-plugin 0.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/54705719:29
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: Release oswin-tempest-plugin 0.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/54705719:29
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dhellmannlooking...19:30
dhellmannsmcginnis : yeah, those are CI changes and shouldn't trigger a new RC19:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ironic 10.1.1 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54707819:36
smcginnisdhellmann: Oh, I keep forgetting to ask you - our process says to notify docs team to create a new series at this point.19:37
smcginnisdhellmann: Is that still valid with the docs changes?19:37
dhellmannsmcginnis : yes. I think pkovar has already done that, let me look19:38
smcginnisAnd if so, what does that entail - or is reminding that team all that is necessary.19:38
smcginnisack19:38
dhellmannyes, https://docs.openstack.org/ takes you to queens and that page says it is the current series19:39
dhellmannthey have the process documented on their side, so all we need to do is notify them19:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release sushy-tools 0.3.0  https://review.openstack.org/54708019:41
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Congress Queens RC2  https://review.openstack.org/54709319:48
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dhellmannsmcginnis : let me know if you want to chat about the presentation today or tomorrow19:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ironic-ui 3.1.1 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54710320:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release virtualbmc 1.3.0  https://review.openstack.org/54707920:02
smcginnisdhellmann: OK, hoping to devote some cycles to that later today, but tomorrow for sure.20:02
dhellmannwfm20:02
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prometheanfiremordred: smcginnis: shade needs 1.27.0 to hit master too20:10
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prometheanfiremordred: smcginnis: I've -1'd the shade UC bump til it hits master unless it's really needed in queens quickly20:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Designate Dashboard 6.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54708320:15
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smcginnisprometheanfire: How do we do that? I didn't think we enforced that in the past. dhellmann, how has this been handled before?20:20
dhellmannnormally we don't want things from stable branches to end up in master, but since we're in this special period in the cycle where we don't do releases from master we probably do want it20:21
dhellmannwe could release shade from master and land that constraint update there, then land the one for queens20:21
dhellmannor we could just propose a constraint update on master to include the new shade20:21
dhellmannif we did nothing except approve the existing queens u-c update, we would end up with a bot-proposed patch to add the same version to master20:22
smcginnisThe latter sounds better.20:22
prometheanfiremaster should always be latest (unless capped), sometimes the latest is also a tag in a stable branch20:22
prometheanfirethat's my understanding20:22
prometheanfireya, just proposing a one-off is fine with me20:22
dhellmannyeah, there's a relatively small window of time where we expect stable to be newer than master20:22
smcginnisWhat if more things have landed in master not intended for stable/queens. Seems like it would be best to just raise master to the last stable/queens.20:22
smcginnisThat's basically how it would be if this was done pre-branchign.20:23
smcginnis*branching20:23
dhellmannyeah, the idea is to propose a u-c update for that same stable version but on master20:23
prometheanfirethat's true, sometimes the branch diverges and should NOT be included in master20:23
smcginnisI can propose that to master for the u-c bump.20:23
prometheanfiregenerally not true in openstack though20:23
prometheanfiresure20:23
dhellmannprometheanfire : well, in a week or two when mordred releases from master again we won't want that version of shade going to the stable branch. and then if he does backport any changes to the stable branch we won't want *that* going to master.20:24
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dhellmannthis case only comes up when we freeze releases of libs on master20:24
prometheanfiresure, I was thinking on ongoing dev in a stable branch is all20:24
dhellmannright20:25
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dhellmannnormally we want releases from a branch to stick to that branch in CI20:25
smcginnisOK, u-c bump proposed to master.20:27
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/releases master: Release Mistral 6.0.0.0rc2  https://review.openstack.org/54712920:29
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prometheanfireya, already voted20:29
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add a script to examine the gerrit acls for issues  https://review.openstack.org/54193120:29
prometheanfirejust neuton nova and heat left to go20:29
* prometheanfire hates how heat has all the clients in it's requirements file...20:29
smcginnisThat seems a little odd.20:30
dhellmannthey do talk to everything, right?20:30
smcginnisOh, right.20:30
prometheanfiredhellmann: they do, but I'd think they'd use the extras stuff20:32
prometheanfirejust makes me want to drop them as a package is all20:32
dhellmannprometheanfire : yeah, I don't know if the code is structured to have different resource types be optional, but I hear you20:33
prometheanfireI've started complaining in their irc :D20:33
prometheanfireyou know, just being a helper lol20:33
smcginnisosc does basically the same thing, IIRC.20:34
clarkbfwiw as a user one of my biggest annoyances is having to hunt down what to install so that certain functionality works20:39
prometheanfirehttps://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/stable/queens/requirements.txt is quite a bit better20:39
clarkbI kinda wish more things would just install all the necessary deps upfront then I'm not hunting 2 weeks later when some random piece of functionality doesn't work20:39
prometheanfireand https://github.com/openstack/python-openstacksdk/blob/stable/queens/requirements.txt to be complete20:40
prometheanfireclarkb: the extras stuff should call it out20:40
prometheanfirehttps://github.com/openstack/glance_store/blob/master/setup.cfg#L5420:40
clarkbsure the problem is you don't magically get extras just by installing something20:41
clarkbso pip install foo doesn't work20:41
clarkbyou have to rtfs20:41
prometheanfirepip install glance_store[cinder]20:41
prometheanfiresomething like that works20:41
clarkbya but the only way to know that that is a thing is to rtfs20:41
clarkbis my complaint20:41
clarkbso you miss it upfront20:41
prometheanfireI prefer minimal by default20:42
prometheanfireguess it is somewhat a preferance thing20:42
prometheanfireI wonder if you can 'pip install glance_store[*]'20:42
clarkband some things are definitely more annoying than others. swift doesn't explicitly dep on keystone auth middleware it just only happens to magically work because we also install everything else with devstack20:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack-infra/release-tools master: Add StoryBoard filter and tag tools  https://review.openstack.org/53480820:43
clarkbbut it completely does not work with keystone without it aiui20:43
prometheanfireya, it's in their extras20:44
clarkbas of last week :)20:44
clarkbwe had to fix this to get python2 swift working in python3 everything else devstack20:45
prometheanfireah, fun20:45
dhellmannclarkb : where do things stand with devstack and python 3? do you know if everything except swift is running under 3?20:46
clarkbdhellmann: my understanding is that most things work with python3 in devstack at this point20:46
clarkbdhellmann: there is talk of making the python3 tempest job our default job rather than python220:46
clarkbI htink we want to get swift working in there under python2 though20:46
dhellmanndo you think we're ready to move to from "python2 first" to "python3 first"20:47
clarkb++20:47
clarkber20:47
clarkbyes20:47
dhellmannexcellent20:47
dhellmannI'm starting to get worried about the number of distros talking about dropping 2 earlier than I expected20:47
smcginnispython3 first would be great.20:47
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smcginnisCrap, looks like I missed virtualbmc as a lib.20:48
clarkbwe probably don't want to completely drop python2 because a lot of places still use it but I think we should start getting into the mode of writing python3 first and new jobs should be python3 first20:48
dhellmannsmcginnis : nothing actually lists it as a dependency20:49
dhellmannit's in the constraints list, but not in any other dependencies20:49
smcginnisdhellmann: Just got surprised by the poroposal patch since it's in u-c.20:49
dhellmannclarkb : we're going to need to figure out our upgrade strategy for 2->3 at some point soon, because new LTS editions are going to start not having 2 to avoid supporting something for an extended period when it's not supported upstream20:50
clarkband ya for rhel8 I'm a little surprised that they aren't going to do a transition on single distro like every other distro seems to have done20:50
dhellmannwe're in the usual "don't talk about features of the next RHEL" phase of planning20:50
dhellmann smcginnis : yeah, we could probably remove it from that list20:51
dhellmannalthough it shows up for rpm-packaging, too, and I don't know the story there. maybe the packaging stuff wants it to be in u-c?20:51
clarkbsince most projects don't store state directly but instead use databases the transition should basically just be turn off old daemon turn on new daemon20:51
openstackgerritIfat Afek proposed openstack/releases master: Release vitrage-tempest-plugin 1.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/54665220:51
clarkbthis is why swift has a harder time of switching, they use pickle and other things that are a lot more tightly coupled to python for state20:52
prometheanfireclarkb: https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/503920:52
prometheanfirenow we wait20:52
dhellmannclarkb : how will we test grenade updating on a system where we don't have a python 2 package to start with the old version?20:52
clarkbdhellmann: I don't think we will20:52
dhellmannI guess we just test on the old system where we have 2.7 and 3.5?20:52
clarkbdhellmann: we basically know that python 2 and 3 work today20:52
clarkbthen eventually we just go to 3 only20:52
clarkband your transition period is nowish20:52
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smcginnisprometheanfire: I'll be interested to see where that goes.20:53
dhellmannthat feels like a big gap in testing20:53
clarkbwe are testing it today?20:53
dhellmannI don't think so20:53
dhellmannthat's what I was asking; I assumed not20:53
prometheanfiresmcginnis: yep, would be a nice QoL improvement20:53
clarkbwe don't do an explicit in place upgrade from 2 to 320:53
clarkbbut we test that both 2 and 3 work on the same code base20:53
dhellmannhmm20:54
dhellmannI should give more thought to whether that's enough at some point earlier in a day when I have brain left to use to think20:54
clarkbI think it is unless you are in the swift situation20:54
clarkbwhere python stores state directly20:55
smcginnisCan you pickle something in 2 and unpickly in 3?20:55
dhellmannyes20:55
dhellmannyou have to configure pickle correctly, but you can20:55
dhellmannit is possible to pickle something in 3 that you can't unpickle in 220:55
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dhellmannbut it is also possible to configure 3 to work for both versions20:55
clarkbI don't fully grok the swift problem but it has to do with array + pickle20:55
dhellmannoh, that's a new one20:56
clarkband so they've apparently hit some corner case wher you can't reliably unpickle?20:56
dhellmannlast I heard they were blocked on some sort of issue with rfc822 header parsing20:56
notmynamehttps://gist.github.com/tipabu/833b03a865dba96e9fa2230b82f5d07520:56
dhellmannnotmyname : cool, thanks20:56
notmynameit's a bit dated, ie we havent' been looking at it lately, but all or most of the issues listed are yet to be solved20:57
dhellmannit's good to have the list20:57
dhellmannI'm just coming back up to speed on the state of this stuff so you've saved me bugging you about it :-)20:57
smcginnisNot sure this needs an RC2 just for a docs update: http://logs.openstack.org/29/547129/1/check/releases-tox-list-changes/e7cbb45/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-02-22_20_38_41_76303821:03
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dhellmannsmcginnis : I wouldn't say so, no21:15
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openstackgerritAntoni Segura Puimedon proposed openstack/releases master: Release kuryr-kubernetes 0.4.1 for Queens  https://review.openstack.org/54700522:48
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celebdordhellmann: smcginnis: I know it was done a bit late, but we found some critical bugs last week that we worked hard to fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547005/23:03
* celebdor is exhausted23:03
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dhellmanncelebdor : ok, I'll take a look23:05
smcginniscelebdor: Is dmellado around to ack that?23:14
smcginnisdhellmann: A couple there look like this would be more appropriate as 0.5.0. Maybe?23:15
dhellmannlet me look again23:15
smcginnisThe two "Services: * haproxy provider" ones.23:16
dhellmannthat's not a bug fix?23:17
dhellmannI didn't look at the actual code change23:17
dhellmannis it a feature?23:17
smcginnisI couldn't really tell from the commit message.23:17
smcginnisThey both have bugs linked in the commit, so good enough for me I guess.23:18
dhellmannlooking at the code change I see a new argument to a driver base class method23:18
dhellmannso maybe that is a feature23:18
smcginnisOK, hopefully someone can respond to that.23:19
smcginnisdhellmann: I get an error trying with npm start for that presentation.23:21
smcginnisdhellmann: Any steps missing from the README?23:21
dhellmanndid you run "npm install"?23:23
dhellmannthat part of it is a bit of a black box to me :-/23:24
smcginnisOh, sorry. Double checked and I'm actually getting that on the npm install step, not the start one.23:24
dhellmannah23:24
dhellmannbad package version?23:24
dhellmannI got that on linux, but it worked ok on macos23:24
dhellmannwe might have to update a version number in the npm deps list23:24
smcginnisHere's the error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/682671/23:25
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dhellmannhmm23:29
dhellmannyeah, I think that's what I saw23:29
dhellmannI think that's saying there's an issue with node-sass version 3.13.123:30
dhellmannI might have to look at this tomorrow, but let me see if I can figure out where the version number is23:31
smcginnisI probably should run too. We can pick it up tomorrow.23:31
dhellmannoh, way up at the top of that error I get "node: not found"23:31
openstackgerritLuigi Toscano proposed openstack/releases master: sahara-tests: release 0.6.0  https://review.openstack.org/54716423:32
dhellmannwell, installing node didn't help23:32
smcginnisWhere is that? It shows a node version in that error output.23:32
smcginnisOr this is what you are getting on yours?23:32
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dhellmannoh, wait, it did23:32
dhellmannsudo apt-get install nodejs-legacy23:33
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smcginnisThat did it.23:34
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smcginnisI just get a blank page after starting.23:34
smcginnisOh well, that's at least progress.23:35
smcginnisI'll maybe play around with it later tonight if I can, or tomorrow morning.23:35
smcginnisThanks for the help getting it going.23:35
dhellmannthere doesn't seem to be a way to tell it to listen anywhere other than localhost so I can't test that it's working on my remote server, but it does seem to start23:35
smcginnisThat's what lynx if for. ;)23:37
clarkbor ssh -L 8080:localhost:$portitlistenson23:37
dhellmannok the check queue is nearly empty, I'm going to submit this patch series refactoring23:37
smcginnisclarkb: Oh yeah, even better.23:38
dhellmannthe releases code23:38
dhellmannclarkb : yeah, I should do that23:38
smcginnisclarkb: I used to have a really nice reverse tunnel into my old work lab way back.23:38
dhellmannwow, the check queue is very empty, did zuul restart? :-)23:38
clarkbyes I just restarted it23:38
clarkbwe think there is a bug in handling full configuration reloads after an error23:38
clarkbwhich led to slowness in processing subsequent reloads23:38
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dhellmannso, I've asked a few times if we still have that issue with very long patch chains23:39
dhellmannand everyone thinks it's OK23:39
dhellmanndo you want one more time to say "no" before I propose this series? :-)23:39
clarkbI don't think this was caused by a very long patch chain. It started right around when fungi fixed the osa configuration issue23:39
clarkband it was slowness in configuration so seems tightly related to that23:40
dhellmannthere was a thing a while back where ian proposed a zillion patches all in the same repo and zuul freaked out trying to figure out how to apply them all23:40
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dhellmannian from cisco23:40
clarkbya because they were all zuul config updates iirc23:40
dhellmannoh, were they?23:40
clarkbare your patches all zuul config updates?23:40
dhellmannno23:40
dhellmannno zuul changes23:40
dhellmannI thought that was just a bunch of code going into a new repo23:40
clarkbya pretty sure the chain issues were all related to telling zuul ot make 200 config change sall at once23:40
dhellmannok, well, let's see23:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: move error and warning message collection into a class  https://review.openstack.org/54717023:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable model object to clone repositories  https://review.openstack.org/54717123:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: delay loading governance data until it is needed  https://review.openstack.org/54717223:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable model object to validate bug tracker  https://review.openstack.org/54717323:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable model object to validate the team name  https://review.openstack.org/54717423:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable object model to validate the release notes links  https://review.openstack.org/54717523:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable object model to validate the release-model setting  https://review.openstack.org/54717623:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable model object to validate the release type  https://review.openstack.org/54717723:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable object model to validate pypi permissions  https://review.openstack.org/54717823:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: fix require_release_jobs_for_repo use of messages object  https://review.openstack.org/54717923:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable model object to validate .gitreview files  https://review.openstack.org/54718023:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: fix ReleaseProject model class for tarball-base  https://review.openstack.org/54718123:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add sorting to object models and fix list-deliverables  https://review.openstack.org/54718223:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add mitaka to the list of closed series  https://review.openstack.org/54718323:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: cache the release objects created for a deliverable  https://review.openstack.org/54718423:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: compare release objects by their version  https://review.openstack.org/54718523:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable model object to validate tarball-base settings  https://review.openstack.org/54718623:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: change known_repo_names to only include values from repository-settings  https://review.openstack.org/54718723:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use deliverable model objects to implement validate_new_releases  https://review.openstack.org/54718823:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add Deliverable.read_file  https://review.openstack.org/54718923:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: move validation for existing tags to its own function  https://review.openstack.org/54720323:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: stop checking the repos in new releases against past releases  https://review.openstack.org/54720423:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: move version number validation into its own function  https://review.openstack.org/54720523:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: move check for release ordering to its own function  https://review.openstack.org/54720623:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: replace validate_releases with validate_release_branch_membership  https://review.openstack.org/54720723:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use python 3 form of super for all validate tests  https://review.openstack.org/54720823:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: move work directory handling into ValidationContext  https://review.openstack.org/54720923:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: remove filename argument from validate_series_open  https://review.openstack.org/54721023:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: let each validation function apply its own rules  https://review.openstack.org/54721123:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: remove extraneous static data  https://review.openstack.org/54721223:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: miscellaneous code and output format cleanups  https://review.openstack.org/54721323:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: be consistent with use of log levels and print  https://review.openstack.org/54721423:41
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: use the docstrings of the check functions for section headings  https://review.openstack.org/54721523:41
dhellmannsmcginnis : I don't want to land those until rocky starts so I get credit for all of them next cycle :-)23:42
smcginnisHaha, sounds good. :)23:42
* dhellmann realizes he should have asked clarkb to hold his beer23:43
clarkbdhellmann: they appear to have queued up at least23:43
dhellmannyeah, I see them starting to show up on the status page23:43
clarkboh I remeber what the issue you are thinking of was23:45
clarkbits the n^2 merge queue effect23:45
clarkbbecause we end up remerging the entire stack each time a new item on the stack comes through23:45
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clarkbso I think the thing to watch is the merge queue graph23:45
clarkbhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/zuul-status bottom of that page23:46
clarkbseems to be falling at a steady rate23:46
celebdorsmcginnis: I was the PTL for Queens23:47
celebdordmellado is the PTL for Rocky23:48
smcginniscelebdor: Ah, OK. The validation logic looks at the latest state.23:48
smcginniscelebdor: Did you see the comment about it probably needing to be 0.5.0?23:49
dhellmannclarkb : so should we be careful when we approve them? we can do that in batches.23:49
clarkbit will just re merge things against the new repo head and if it handles it ok on the check side I expect it will be ok on the gate side too23:50
clarkbwe have a lot of mergers now to help take on this burst load23:50
dhellmannok, cool23:50
dhellmannI'm going to go offline, so if those patches cause problems just kill them or whatever and I'll resubmit them in batches23:50
mnasersmcginnis: dhellmann https://github.com/jamiesnape/git-retry interesting tool for the git timeout issues23:51
smcginnismnaser: Oh nice. I will have to take a look at that one.23:51
dhellmannmnaser : nice, thanks!23:53
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