Monday, 2018-03-26

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/reno master: Add usage with travis CI to docs  https://review.openstack.org/55569705:37
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openstackgerritWitold Bedyk proposed openstack/releases master: Release monasca-agent 2.2.3 for Pike  https://review.openstack.org/55646209:37
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kashyapHi folks, last night I wrote this long release note: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534384/14/releasenotes/notes/libvirt-cpu-model-extra-flags-a23085f58bd22d27.yaml13:07
kashyapAnd `reno lint .` didnt' catch anything in my file.13:07
kashyapAnd building `tox -e releasenotes`, the only thing I see is a warning (treated as error) in an unrelated file:13:08
kashyap2018-03-26 10:58:14.063277 | ubuntu-xenial | Warning, treated as error:13:08
kashyap2018-03-26 10:58:14.063388 | ubuntu-xenial | /home/zuul/src/git.openstack.org/openstack/nova/releasenotes/source/unreleased.rst:71:Literal block expected; none found.13:08
kashyap2018-03-26 10:58:14.625005 | ubuntu-xenial | ERROR13:08
kashyapWonder if anyone has any hints13:09
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kashyapI made sure to use rST syntax correcting, including the ".. note::" directive, enumerated lists, etc.13:09
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smcginniskashyap: Don't you need a blank line after ".. note::"?13:20
* kashyap looks13:21
kashyapsmcginnis: Oh dear, do I?  I _thought_ it isn't reqiured13:21
smcginniskashyap: You need to check the file in before reno will pick it up locally.13:21
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dhellmann"git add" should do it13:21
kashyap(I did the `git add` of course)13:21
smcginnisOh good, I didn't realize just adding it would take care of that.13:21
kashyapsmcginnis: Look at the ".. note::" sections from a different rST I wrote: https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/QEMU-Docs/_build/html/_sources/docs/live-block-operations.rst.txt13:22
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smcginnisHmm13:22
dhellmannkashyap : run "reno report" and look at the output. One of the notes probably has a trailing ::13:22
kashyapsmcginnis: So it turns out, either I have to put it on the _same_ line as ".. note::" and indent it13:22
* kashyap looks13:22
kashyaps/looks/runs/13:22
dhellmannkashyap : line 27 of your note13:23
kashyapdhellmann: Ah, `reno report .` doesn't catch it.  It happily returns success ('0')13:24
smcginnis"'Ivybridge" is mis-quoted too.13:24
smcginnisOn line 18.13:24
* kashyap looks13:24
kashyapsmcginnis: Darn, eagle eyes there13:24
smcginnisdhellmann: Does the numbered list need to be indented there.13:24
smcginniskashyap: Hah. ;)13:24
kashyapI was getting a bit dazed with all the double quotes13:24
kashyapMind you, as you can see from the other URL I posted, I like rST, but also hate some parts of it :P13:25
kashyapBut it's the least evil beast13:25
smcginniskashyap: Kudos on the completeness of the release note. Most I see keep it very simple. :)13:26
kashyapdhellmann: So, on line-27 of my note13:26
kashyapI did that :: because, if I used a single :, it is highlighting the text13:26
kashyapsmcginnis: Spent about 3 hours!13:26
kashyap(Even probably more, researching the actual affected models.)13:26
kashyapBecause, it's an important perf regression, thanks to the train-wreck sized Jupiter that is "Meltdown"...13:27
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kashyapsmcginnis: dhellmann: Fixed, before I waste precious Gate resources, here's the fixed version: https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-cpu-model-extra-flags-a23085f58bd22d27.yaml.txt13:28
kashyapAnything glaring you see?13:28
dhellmannkashyap : yeah, reno report will just dump the text that sphinx is getting13:28
dhellmannit should be ok to end line 27 with 1 :13:29
dhellmannand not indent the numbered list any further13:29
dhellmannI think if you do indent it more it will end up as a block qutoe13:29
smcginnisOh right.13:29
smcginniskashyap: Nothing stands out to me with that latest update.13:29
kashyapdhellmann: stephenfin was saying on #openstack-nova that 'reno' isn't reporting errors for the right lines, and for oslo.config he had to make this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554632/1/oslo_config/sphinxext.py13:30
kashyapAbout the change ^^ "14:56 < stephenfin> kashyap: tl;dr: you need to keep an offset counter as you emit rST lines, and it's worth writing what you generate to temporary file so you can view it"13:30
dhellmannah, nice13:30
dhellmannmaybe stephenfin will grace us with a similar patch to reno13:30
dhellmannor maybe if I ask nicely kashyap would13:30
kashyapdhellmann: :-)  First, still wrapping my head around things.  I have a TODO item to file a StoryBoard issue, too13:31
kashyapdhellmann: Meanwhile, are you saying, as it stands, this looks good: https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-cpu-model-extra-flags-a23085f58bd22d27.yaml.txt13:31
dhellmannthat would be a good start, to at least get the details down in one place13:31
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kashyapIncluding the indentation of two dash-ed bullet points under item 313:31
kashyapsmcginnis: Thanks for looking!13:31
dhellmannI didn't study the quoting like smcginnis did but the : thing looks fine in that version13:32
kashyapdhellmann: Would the two dash-ed points under item 3 will render as intended?13:32
dhellmannyeah, that should give you a bullet list13:33
dhellmanndoes running "tox -e releasenotes" work for you locally?13:33
kashyapAh, good point; let me re-run that.13:33
kashyap`tox -e releasenotes` takes about 8 minutes on my laptop13:34
ttxPosted the ACL dance removal explanation to -dev13:34
ttxhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128731.html13:34
kashyapttx: Follow-up to our -dev IRC chat, PTG the other day, about the perf degradation impact on OpenStack guests w/ Meltdown fixes:13:36
kashyapThe change is ready, only waiting for the release note to be bult.13:36
kashyapttx: Full details here (it's building in CI, currently): https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-cpu-model-extra-flags-a23085f58bd22d27.yaml.txt13:36
kashyap(And that's the Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-cpu-model-extra-flags)13:37
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ttxkashyap: great! I suspect this is not really backportable to stable branches -- any workaround we could suggest there ?13:39
kashyapttx: See the last comment :-)  It _is_ backportable13:39
* ttx reads more13:39
kashyapttx: It's this bit:13:39
kashyap    .. note::13:39
kashyap        The ``cpu_model_extra_flags`` config option in OpenStack13:39
kashyap        "Queens" and "Pike" releases will restrict the choice of CPU13:39
kashyap        feature flags to just 'PCID' -- to address the earlier mentioned13:39
kashyap        performance degradation.  However, the "Rocky" release will13:39
kashyap        remove this restriction, and allow adding (or removing) multiple13:39
kashyap        CPU feature flags.13:39
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ttxah great, hoping that will pass the stable team bar13:41
kashyapYep, exactly.  Arrived at the above conclusion after a long discussion w/ Stable folks13:41
ttxkashyap: thanks again for covering that13:41
smcginnisttx: Write up looks great.13:41
kashyapNo problem at all13:41
* kashyap wonders if he should write a quick blog for planet.o.o13:41
ttxI'm actually surprised we don't have people screaming at our doors over the perf loss right now13:41
smcginniskashyap: Not a bad idea.13:41
ttxkashyap: ++13:42
kashyapAs we know, besides the relase-note writer, nobody else reads the release notes13:42
kashyap:P13:42
* kashyap goes to draft 13:42
ttxkashyap: if you write it I'll amplify it13:42
stephenfindhellmann: I can, but not today. Should probably wait for reviews on the 'oslo.config' variant first too13:42
dhellmannstephenfin : sure, I'm just nudging13:42
ttxlet me know when posted and I'll unleash the full power of my social media network13:42
kashyapttx: Thanks!  I'll link once I'm done13:42
kashyapHehe13:43
ttx(or rather, ping my friends who do have such power)13:43
kashyapdhellmann: Huzzah!  `tox -e releasenotes` now works.  Thanks for the review13:43
stephenfindhellmann: Oh, I know :)13:43
dhellmannkashyap : \o/13:43
kashyapdhellmann++13:49
kashyapsmcginnis++13:49
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ttxsmcginnis: dhellmann: should I remove the "tentative" for your participation to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/CPH-k8s-openstack-story-trading ?14:02
smcginnisttx: Thanks for the reminder, I removed it from mine.14:02
dhellmannI think that's safe. I need to book a flight still, but I should be doing that today14:02
smcginnisttx: I will definitely be there.14:02
ttxOK, today I'll reach out to the second circle14:03
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smcginnisFlight and apartment booked for me, so if I don't make it there, something bad has happened. :)14:03
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kashyapttx: People aren't knocking on our doors shows how many of them have actually updated the prerequisite components: low-level microcode, host and guest kernels, QEMU, and libvirt.  (And _then_ if you cold reboot (stop + start) your instances, do you notice the degradation.)14:08
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ttxheh14:19
ttxsmcginnis: Apartment? Now I know where we'll meet!14:19
smcginnisttx: Hard to tell from the pictures, but it may actually be an option. ;)14:20
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO newton release  https://review.openstack.org/55654614:29
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openstackgerritStephen Finucane proposed openstack/releases master: os-vif 1.9.1  https://review.openstack.org/55494914:41
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO ocata release  https://review.openstack.org/55655815:27
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO pike release  https://review.openstack.org/55655915:30
prometheanfiremordred: is there a reson the openstacksdk rename needs to hit the stable branches?  I'm not sure we have a policy about renames on stable branches15:30
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Jeffrey4lhi, since kolla already release rc2 tag, i think it is time to release queens final 6.0.0 tag.15:51
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smcginnisJeffrey4l: If you are ready, that would be great!16:01
Jeffrey4lsmcginnis, yeah. it should be good to go16:01
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO queens release  https://review.openstack.org/55657916:06
EmilienMmwhahaha: ^ all stable releases for tripleo were proposed this morning.16:06
mwhahahak16:07
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prometheanfirewe allow bsd 2 clause right?  iirc openstack does16:16
smcginnisprometheanfire: For lib requirements?16:16
smcginnisprometheanfire: Yes - https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/licensing.html16:17
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prometheanfirethanks16:17
smcginnis"In order to be acceptable as a dependency... under an OSI-approved licenese... BSD (both forms).16:17
Jeffrey4lsmcginnis, is the final 6.0.0 tag created by kolla team or tc?16:18
smcginnisJeffrey4l: By the kolla team by proposing the change to the deliverables/queens/*.yaml file.16:20
Jeffrey4lroger, thanks16:20
smcginnisJeffrey4l: Here is an example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552558/16:21
Jeffrey4lthanks. i am preparing the patch16:22
smcginnisJeffrey4l: Great, I will watch for it to come through.16:22
Jeffrey4lthanks16:23
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/releases master: Queens final releases for cycle-trailing kolla projects  https://review.openstack.org/55658116:26
smcginnisJeffrey4l: Looks good, I'll just wait for zuul to give the all clear.16:28
Jeffrey4lcool16:28
Jeffrey4lsmcginnis, there are some patches after rc2 tag. should we use the latest queens branch tag for final release? or have to use another rc tag for final release?16:29
smcginnisJeffrey4l: Yeah, you would need to do another RC to pick those up.16:30
smcginnisJeffrey4l: If they are not critical, you might be better off just leaving them for now and picking them up in the first stable release.16:30
Jeffrey4lok. they are not critical.  will be included in next z stream. thanks.16:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 2.4.0  https://review.openstack.org/55584316:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Mistral 6.0.1  https://review.openstack.org/55565116:37
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/releases master: Add devstack-plugin-[amqp1|kafka] projects  https://review.openstack.org/55659617:18
bnemecIs ^ the correct way to branch our devstack plugins in the future?17:18
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO queens release  https://review.openstack.org/55657917:36
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smcginnisbnemec: If you want to follow the way devstack does branching. Those are just placeholders at this point, so we can add them like that, or you can resubmit that when you are ready to branch with all the info.17:40
smcginnisbnemec: But otherwise, everything else aligns with what devstack does for branching. You would just add the branching information when ready: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/releases/tree/deliverables/queens/devstack.yaml#n717:41
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bnemecsmcginnis: Okay, thanks.  So the queens deliverable file would actually be the significant thing right now?17:47
bnemecI think I'll leave the placeholders in any case.  We want to make sure we don't forget to branch going forward.17:48
smcginnisbnemec: Not sure if we are too late to include that in queens deliverables. dhellmann?17:48
smcginnisI suppose it is a devstack plugin, so that probably is OK.17:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add devstack-plugin-[amqp1|kafka] projects  https://review.openstack.org/55659617:49
smcginnisWe just normally do not add things to queens at this point.17:49
dhellmannsmcginnis : since it won't have a release it seems OK17:49
bnemecI'm not sure we need to.  Let me check with the messaging people and see if they're concerned about it.17:49
smcginnisdhellmann: OK, that's kind of where I was ending up thinking it through.17:50
dhellmannit won't end up listed on the releases website without a release17:50
dhellmannyeah17:50
smcginnisSo that's good.17:50
dhellmannsorry, I saw and approved the patch before noticing your question here17:50
dhellmannoh, that was just the rocky one17:50
smcginnisbnemec: So yeah, we can get a queens branch created if that simplifies things.17:50
smcginnisdhellmann: Yeah, no problem. That's good and like bnemec says, it will help make sure they remember to for Rocky.17:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Queens final releases for cycle-trailing kolla projects  https://review.openstack.org/55658117:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: TripleO pike release  https://review.openstack.org/55655917:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-agent 2.2.3 for Pike  https://review.openstack.org/55646217:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: TripleO ocata release  https://review.openstack.org/55655817:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: TripleO newton release  https://review.openstack.org/55654618:02
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO queens release  https://review.openstack.org/55657918:02
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed openstack/releases master: Add stable/queens branches for devstack-plugin-[amqp1|kafka]  https://review.openstack.org/55660218:04
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smcginnisBah, another job failure from trying to simultaneouly copy up files.18:17
smcginnisShould be safe to ignore though.18:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: os-vif 1.9.1  https://review.openstack.org/55494918:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add stable/queens branches for devstack-plugin-[amqp1|kafka]  https://review.openstack.org/55660218:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: TripleO queens release  https://review.openstack.org/55657918:44
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Add Rocky TC Election Dates  https://review.openstack.org/55661018:47
openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Add Rocky TC Election Dates  https://review.openstack.org/55661018:52
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annabelleBI have another Stage 0 newbie question if someone’s around?19:49
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smcginnisannabelleB: Sorry, was off on another machine. What's up?20:06
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annabelleBno worries! I’m reading through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555194/ just to get familiar with the process. This one has that big ol’ “needs stable review” banner. What’s the normal process on that? Do you wait to review until a stable team member has reviewed? Does it just not get merged until a stable member has reviewed?20:14
smcginnisannabelleB: The latter. It is good to review it, but just don't approve it until we've waited until a Monday to give the stable team a chance to review.20:15
smcginnisThat's their designated "review day", although it will sometimes happen other days too.20:15
smcginnisBut we want to at least wait until a Monday.20:15
annabelleBsmcginnis: sounds good, thank you!20:15
smcginnisannabelleB: Depending on how tied up that "team" is (it's pretty much just Tony) we may still approve it if Monday comes and goes and no review.20:16
smcginnisannabelleB: But we at least try to give some time on those.20:16
smcginnisannabelleB: Doug was nice enough to add that banner after me missing it a few (several?) times. :)20:16
annabelleBAhhh now I see why my notes say “tony’s day is monday”20:16
annabelleBit’s a good banner!20:17
smcginnisIt is, I actually really like how visible that makes it. :D20:17
annabelleBcan’t miss it!20:17
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dhellmannsmcginnis : hey, don't make this all about you. I missed the smaller note, too. ;-)21:11
smcginnisdhellmann: Haha, OK, fair enough. :)21:12
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