Monday, 2018-06-04

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-octaviaclient 1.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/57182803:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-openstackclient 3.14.2 (stable/queens)  https://review.openstack.org/57153703:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: TripleO queens release  https://review.openstack.org/57011403:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Update list of broken ACLs to fix  https://review.openstack.org/57174203:57
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/releases master: Senlin release Rocky-2  https://review.openstack.org/57201905:13
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EmilienMtonyb: thx06:29
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tonybEmilienM: no problem06:56
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/releases master: Release django_openstack_auth 3.6.1 for Pike  https://review.openstack.org/57204107:55
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: aclfixer: Remove yaql from list of exceptions  https://review.openstack.org/57206709:42
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Remove PowerStackers, yaql from aclfixer exceptions  https://review.openstack.org/57206709:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Cinder stable/queens 12.0.2  https://review.openstack.org/57098212:22
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-magnumclient 2.9.1  https://review.openstack.org/57210413:24
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smcginnis?ptl dragonflow13:38
guvnahDragonflow PTL: Omer Anson (oanson)13:38
* dhellmann[m] is testing out Matrix/Riot this week. So far, it seems slow.13:42
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smcginnisdhellmann: I've found it useful on my phone for ping notifications and quick away-from-desk responses, but still prefer my main IRC client on at my desk.13:44
smcginnisBut desktop client is slow as molasses.13:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: nova: release queens 17.0.5  https://review.openstack.org/57149413:45
dhellmann[m]smcginnis: yeah, at lunch one day at the summit we had a conversation about moving off of freenode and running a home server, under the assumption that riot would provide a less daunting UI for folks not familiar with IRC13:45
dhellmann[m]that may be true, but I'm not convinced the IRC bridge offers a great experience13:45
dhellmann[m]the tc channel doesn't seem to be syncing properly and I have no idea how to do anything about that13:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Designate 5.0.2 (pike)  https://review.openstack.org/57158913:46
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smcginnisI've seen the sync issue too. Phone view would only show me some but not all of the comments.13:47
smcginnisI wonder if running our own homeserver would help.13:47
smcginnisWe could at least scale it and make sure it has proper resources.13:47
smcginnisNot sure where the bottleneck is that slows things down though.13:47
smcginnisBut my own experience from the last few weeks of using it is that it is a useful tool but not good enough for a full replacement.13:48
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smcginnisThough I have not tried the actual Matrix-based group chats, just the IRC bridging.13:48
dhellmann[m]the theory was that if we had our own home server with our channels, it might be faster? and I think we could use the openstack id service for authentication so folks didn't need a separate account somewhere.13:49
smcginnisThat would be nice.13:49
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dhellmann[m]yeah, I'm about 30 minutes in and still frustrated figuring out the UI, but it took a while to figure out textual, too13:49
dhellmann[m]and the account setup was definitely nicer13:49
dhellmann[m]it does seem to keep history without requiring a separate bouncer, so that's a nice feature13:56
smcginnisYeah, that is another nice thing about it.13:59
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dhellmann[m]smcginnis, ttx : I just saw a dragonflow release failure. are they tagging their own releases still?14:13
dhellmann[m]oh, yeah, that's one reason they came up last week, isn't it/14:14
smcginnisYeah, just saw that too. We should get those ACLs changed.14:14
smcginnisoanson: ^^14:14
smcginnisoanson: Officially governed projects should not be tagging their own releases.14:14
smcginnisoanson: It looks like the ACLs were not changed when DragonFlow come under governance.14:15
smcginnisoanson: But in addition to that, it would appear the release job for that repo is not set up right for all of its dependencies.14:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: nova: release pike 16.1.4  https://review.openstack.org/57152114:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-magnumclient 2.9.1  https://review.openstack.org/57210414:32
ttxYeah I tried to preempt that by answering the thread, but too late apparently14:37
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smcginnisYep, I thought you had addressed it, but apparently we needed to be more explicit.14:45
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ttxdhellmann[m]: smcginnis: most of the leftovers in ACLs at this point are things that are not really a library or a service with a traditional release job, like openstack/manila-image-elements -- should we also chase down those ?15:15
ttxAlso a bunch of things that haven't released in last 2 years and are half-abandoned15:16
ttxLike openstack/heat-cfntools15:16
dhellmann[m]it's easier for me to keep up with things if I don't have a lot of exceptions to remember15:16
ttxdhellmann[m]: but to pass our testing they will likely have to define a release job of sorts, right?15:16
dhellmann[m]if those things are abandoned maybe we can encourage teams to mark them as such?15:16
dhellmann[m]they don't have to pass the tests to have their ACLs fixed15:17
ttxyeah, that's what I did for the ones under QA, suggest two possible courses of action15:17
dhellmann[m]they would only have to pass tests if they want to actually tag the repos15:17
dhellmann[m]and then we can encode the exceptions in the metadata in the releases repo (if we don't have a way to say "there is no build artifact" we can add one)15:18
dhellmann[m]but I think we have a way already15:18
dhellmann[m]smcginnis: the other missing feature in riot is the ability to watch 2 chat rooms at the same time15:18
dhellmann[m]I suspect that after a couple of hours of evaluation I can reasonably conclude that the UI is going to make me less efficient in the short term.15:19
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smcginnisdhellmann[m]: There's also oddness if you use both where DMs need to go to either nick or nick[m] and you can't share them, even though you are authenticated as the same account.15:25
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smcginnisdhellmann[m]: Looks like there's a Riot Weechat plugin though.15:25
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dhellmannI have a mac desktop irc client that I like15:28
dhellmannnice notifications, without overdoing the shiny15:28
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smcginnisA Mac app without the shiny? :)15:28
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dhellmannsmcginnis : it has an appropriate amount of shiny :-)15:34
dimsdhellmann[m] : which one do you use?15:35
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dhellmanndims : textual15:36
dimsy me as well15:36
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clarkbHello release team. Prior to the summit we improved zuul's reliablity which means we haven't restarted in over 3 weeks \o/ however we've amassed a backlog of smaller bug fixes and feature additions we want to get in and start running. Is it alright if we do that today (probably in the next 30 minutes or so if not conflicting with release work)18:13
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clarkbsmcginnis: dhellmann ttx dims ^18:18
smcginnisclarkb: Should be OK. I have not approved any release patches lately and last I looked, the only remaining ones were stable releases that need to wait for Tony's review.18:19
smcginnisclarkb: If new ones come up it's no problem to wait until you give the all clear.18:20
clarkbsmcginnis: thanks18:20
smcginnisThanks for the heads up.18:21
smcginnisAnd pretty cool zuul hasn't needed to be restarted in over 3 weeks!18:21
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corvuswe found a bug in the build logs page; we're going to restart it again in a sec21:09
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clarkbat this point we think we've worked through all of the problems with the new zuul-web daemon22:45
clarkbI think you are good to do releases again. Thank you for your patience22:45
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smcginnisclarkb, corvus: Thanks!23:12
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