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dhellmann | o/ | 14:21 |
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smcginnis | Morning dhellmann | 14:28 |
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dhellmann | hi, smcginnis | 14:29 |
dhellmann | I'm getting a bit of a late start this morning. Is there anything brewing that I can help with? | 14:29 |
smcginnis | No, things are mostly quiet this morning so far. | 14:30 |
smcginnis | dhellmann: I did have one unrelated to releases question for you though. | 14:30 |
dhellmann | sure | 14:31 |
smcginnis | With the operations-guide stuff... is there a reason for needing a sig formed for that? | 14:31 |
smcginnis | Just want to make sure I understand the motivation behind doing it. | 14:31 |
dhellmann | our current policies require an official group of some sort to own the repo if the content is published to docs.openstack.org | 14:31 |
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dhellmann | otherwise it has to be published to some other site, and that just felt silly for this content | 14:32 |
dhellmann | a sig was the most lightweight thing to address that | 14:32 |
smcginnis | Ah, OK. That makes sense. Is that captures somewhere to show that ownership, or do we just need to be able to answer that question. | 14:32 |
smcginnis | I felt like I was missing a step somewhere to tie those two things together. | 14:32 |
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dhellmann | there's a repo that describes the sigs, and I thought that included a file that lists the repos they own | 14:34 |
smcginnis | Not that I saw, but I will take a closer look. | 14:34 |
dhellmann | smcginnis : ah, it's in the governance repo | 14:35 |
dhellmann | reference/sigs-repos.yaml | 14:35 |
dhellmann | I guess because it affects tc elections | 14:35 |
smcginnis | That makes sense. Thanks, I'll get up a dependent patch for that. | 14:36 |
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ttx | dhellmann: actually the UC can own repos too | 14:53 |
ttx | That's how osops was handled so far | 14:53 |
ttx | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/user-committee-repos.yaml | 14:54 |
ttx | smcginnis: ^ | 14:54 |
dhellmann | ah, ok | 14:54 |
dhellmann | either way would be fine with me; whatever is easier for them | 14:55 |
ttx | I mean, technically anyone can own repos :) | 14:55 |
ttx | but we happen to track board-owned and UC-owned ones | 14:55 |
ttx | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/foundation-board-repos.yaml | 14:55 |
smcginnis | Thanks, I'll see how they want to handle that. Maybe we can just put it as a repo under the User Committee and not need to create a new SIG or group? | 14:57 |
dhellmann | if that's allowed, that works for me | 14:58 |
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ttx | yes that would be my preferred option | 15:00 |
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ttx | If not, second preferred option would be to have a narrower scope than "Operations" for the SIG | 15:00 |
dhellmann | smcginnis : there was a mailing list thread about this where I said something about creating the sig (I think you followed up already?) maybe we want to mention this there | 15:00 |
ttx | Goal of SIGs is to get everyone to work together, and an "Operations" SIG tends to go the opposite way | 15:00 |
smcginnis | I can certainly make it just about docs if that's better. That was my original plan but didn't want to pigeon hole it too much. | 15:00 |
smcginnis | dhellmann: Yes, I recapped that with my current plan, but will send an update if it changes. | 15:01 |
dhellmann | sounds good | 15:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release neutron-lib 1.17.0 https://review.openstack.org/578426 | 16:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-traits 0.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/578895 | 17:24 |
mriedem | melwitt: fyi ^ | 17:24 |
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dhellmann | smcginnis : when would you like to schedule the health check discussion for the release team? :-) | 17:35 |
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smcginnis | dhellmann: Anything you think we need to discuss about that? | 17:39 |
smcginnis | Really lack of involvement is the only concern I have with the team. | 17:39 |
smcginnis | I was wondering if we should bring up succession planning in the meeting. | 17:39 |
dhellmann | yeah, both of those are good | 17:41 |
dhellmann | how far do you think we would get with a rule that anyone who asks for a release has to review another release first? :-) | 17:42 |
smcginnis | Hah, probably not too far. Or not very useful reviews at least. | 17:42 |
dhellmann | do you feel like we're green or orange? | 17:42 |
smcginnis | I think green overall. | 17:42 |
smcginnis | Luckily this cycle has been pretty low maintenance, but if we end up with anything like last cycle again we better hope none of us go anywhere. | 17:43 |
dhellmann | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_health_tracker#Release_Management | 17:45 |
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smcginnis | That looks good to me. | 17:48 |
dhellmann | ok, I'm going to count that one as done then | 17:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release os-traits 0.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/578895 | 19:45 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: add support for $series-em tags https://review.openstack.org/578988 | 20:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Process for deliverables with no changes https://review.openstack.org/578407 | 20:35 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add manila-image-elements as release type https://review.openstack.org/578379 | 20:35 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: puppet-ceph release 2.5.1 and branch stable/luminous https://review.openstack.org/578209 | 20:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: replace old reviewer guide with new material https://review.openstack.org/579019 | 21:26 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: move the submission guide out of the readme to the reference docs https://review.openstack.org/579020 | 21:26 |
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dhellmann | smcginnis : I'm likely to miss (or be pretty late for) the release meeting tomorrow morning | 21:45 |
dhellmann | I have a doctor's appointment | 21:46 |
smcginnis | OK, thanks for the head's up. | 21:55 |
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