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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: openstackdocstheme 1.24.1 https://review.openstack.org/603210 | 00:54 |
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| dhellmann | smcginnis : regarding the mistral versions, I think it's probably OK to keep all of the parts of the deliverable using a single version. That's why we track them as a single deliverable. | 13:43 |
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| dhellmann | mriedem , smcginnis : with tonyb out for a few weeks, is one of you going to take over reviewing stable releases officially? or should we just go ahead with 2 reviews from the rest of the release team? | 13:47 |
| dhellmann | or 1, even, I guess | 13:47 |
| mriedem | i can | 13:48 |
| mriedem | just point me at them when needed | 13:49 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : we have a few up now, let me find a good link to the dashboard for you | 13:50 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : http://tiny.cc/a1mkwy | 13:50 |
| mriedem | aye | 13:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release Octavia stable/pike 1.0.3 https://review.openstack.org/601853 | 13:52 |
| dhellmann | our usual process with tony is to wait "at least one monday" since that's when he did reviews. So let us know if you want to set a similar schedule or do them ad hoc | 13:52 |
| mriedem | wait at least one monday since the release request is proposed? | 13:52 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 13:52 |
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| mriedem | i'm not at all that disciplined | 13:53 |
| dhellmann | that gives tonyb a chance to review it, and if he misses it then we move on without his review | 13:53 |
| dhellmann | heh, yeah, his time zone made that convenient for him | 13:53 |
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| smcginnis | I think the waiting until Monday was just about getting his time. If mriedem wants to review them, I don't think we need to wait for anything. | 13:58 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: ack on the mistral versioning. Just wasn't sure since I'm not sure we've been very consistent about pushing back on skipping versions for some components. | 13:58 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we probably should have encouraged them to tag all of the parts of the deliverable together | 13:59 |
| smcginnis | We can probably just do two +2's on the stable ones, bonus if mriedem is able to review things first. | 13:59 |
| dhellmann | wfm | 13:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: release neutron 12.0.4 https://review.openstack.org/601203 | 14:02 |
| mriedem | my only question on the mistral one is they are missing a revert https://github.com/openstack/mistral/commit/4f3792fbf342a8c2befc14193a5f81f6457e9be4 | 14:05 |
| mriedem | i'll ask the ptl | 14:06 |
| mriedem | who is not around.. | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | meh, +1 on the mistral one | 14:17 |
| mriedem | it's just a CI change, shouldn't matter for the stable release | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | smcginnis: dhellmann: so isn't this generally a no-no on stable? http://logs.openstack.org/13/602013/1/check/releases-tox-list-changes/1395426/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-09-12_12_10_58_462020 | 14:38 |
| mriedem | higher minimum dependencies | 14:38 |
| smcginnis | Raising upper limits is OK I believe. | 14:39 |
| mriedem | these aren't upper limits | 14:39 |
| mriedem | this is in requirements.txt | 14:39 |
| smcginnis | Oh sorry. Meeting and wechat and side conversations. Yeah, that's raising the minimum above what it was before. | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | Maybe just matching what was actually already enforced elsewhere? http://logs.openstack.org/13/602013/1/check/releases-tox-list-changes/1395426/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-09-12_12_11_03_925568 | 14:41 |
| mriedem | mlavalle: are the neutron bagpipe / bgpvpn separate services or plugins or what are they? | 14:42 |
| mriedem | would they be installed on the same host as neutron server? | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | yes, they are separate and yes they are installed in the server | 14:43 |
| mriedem | so releasing bagpipe 9.0.1 in stable/rocky depending on neutron 13.0.1 is normal? | 14:43 |
| mriedem | and packagers/deployers/operators are used to this? | 14:43 |
| mriedem | like, networking-bgpvpn 9.0.1 would require horizon>=14.0.0 which seems odd | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Witold Bedyk proposed openstack/releases master: Release monasca-events-api and cut stable/rocky https://review.openstack.org/590702 | 14:47 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: smcginnis: +1 on the mistral queens release content-wise https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602576/ - i'm not sure what you want to do about fixing that version gap, i'll leave that up to you two | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | -1 on the ironic queens release https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603153/ | 15:05 |
| mriedem | one of the changes depends on a client library fix that hasn't been released | 15:06 |
| mriedem | the ironic core team shouldn't have let that change go into the server | 15:06 |
| mriedem | dtantsur: ^ | 15:06 |
| mriedem | TheJulia: fyi on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592187/ re ^ | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | mriedem , smcginnis : the networking plugins aren't asserting that they follow the stable policy, fwiw | 15:07 |
| dtantsur | yeah, it's controversial | 15:07 |
| mriedem | maybe releases of python-dracclient don't matter because the vendor will just package it all up themselves anyway regardless of releases to pypi | 15:07 |
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| dhellmann | probably | 15:08 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: i asked tmorin about it in -neutron but no answer; if he's at orange then he's likely done for the day | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | there's no real rush to release these things so we can wait for a response | 15:08 |
| dtantsur | mriedem: so, looking at the patch, it may be fine. before the fix the behavior with passing 0 ended up in an error, with old dracclient it will also end up in a similar error | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | with new dracclient (which is branchless) it will work | 15:09 |
| mriedem | dtantsur: well normally the driver-requirements.txt would be updated to reflect the new required minimum version of dracclient for the fix, yeah? | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | mriedem: do we bump requirements for bug fixes? | 15:10 |
| mriedem | like in nova, if we require fixes for a libvirt volume driver that are in os-brick, we'd wait for the fixes in os-brick to be released and then raise our minimum required version of os-brick | 15:10 |
| mriedem | dtantsur: heh well that's what i was asking about above for the networking bagpipe/bgpvpn stuff, | 15:10 |
| dtantsur | yep, but it opens a can of warms with bumping requirements on stable branches | 15:10 |
| mriedem | if you don't, you should at least have a release note saying "you need version x of y to fix bug z" | 15:10 |
| dtantsur | of worms (we already have a can of "warms" outside :D) | 15:10 |
| mriedem | dtantsur: yeah i know | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | I've always discouraged raising the minimums just for a bug fix | 15:11 |
| mriedem | i have a can of rain outside | 15:11 |
| * dtantsur is ready to exchange | 15:11 | |
| mriedem | dhellmann: i don't disagree, | 15:11 |
| dtantsur | yeah, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592187/2/releasenotes/notes/raid-dell-boss-e9c5da9ddceedd67.yaml should have mentioned that.. | 15:11 |
| mriedem | a release note would have been a minimum compromise | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | I agree on the release note | 15:11 |
| mriedem | but if the answer is, "it's the dell vendor driver and only they'll care about it - no one outside of dell customers will ever know or care" then maybe i shouldn't care | 15:12 |
| dtantsur | mriedem: it may be the case.. though it does not match how I personally perceive drivers. | 15:13 |
| mriedem | dtantsur: me neither | 15:13 |
| dtantsur | lemme see if I can update that release note | 15:13 |
| mriedem | there are networking os-vif plugins in nova that depend on vendor libraries and i've always pushed that those vendor libraries are at least released to pypi before nova merges the change that depends on them | 15:13 |
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| mriedem | in case someone isn't under contract for the sdn controller and just has the software | 15:14 |
| mriedem | i'm probably be naive | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | the drac drivers are useful for anyone using dells, even if they don't have special contracts with dell | 15:16 |
| dtantsur | anyway, thanks for raising it mriedem, good catch. I'll handle it with Dell folks and re-request the release with an updated release note. | 15:17 |
| mriedem | dtantsur: thank you | 15:18 |
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| mriedem | dhellmann: i'm going to assume my vote on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590702/ doesn't really matter, | 15:26 |
| mriedem | looks like an exception | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : they missed the deadline to add the deliverable so this is their first release | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | so, yeah, it's not really a stable thing I guess | 15:27 |
| mriedem | ok i think i'm through the list then | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | thanks! | 15:28 |
| mriedem | time to review nova stable backports and do nova stable releases since we're way behind... | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: Thanks for spending the time on those. Very appreciated. | 15:31 |
| mriedem | np | 15:32 |
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