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| openstackgerrit | Juan Antonio Osorio Robles proposed openstack/releases master: Release for stein milestone1 for TripleO https://review.openstack.org/613020 | 06:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 2.6.2 https://review.openstack.org/620195 | 10:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: oslo.i18n 3.23.0 https://review.openstack.org/620408 | 10:52 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I'm a bit confused about openstack/openstackclient and its release management. It seems unreleased and yet we say "pip install openstackclient" in the README... I think you explained it to me once but I forgot. | 11:05 |
| ttx | TheJulia: regarding molteniron... what are your release plans for it ? Should it be abandoned? considered continuously-released? or should we add it to the list of things that need regular releasing? | 11:15 |
| ttx | TheJulia: same question for tenks, I guess.. is a stein release in the books? | 11:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release for stein milestone1 for TripleO https://review.openstack.org/613020 | 11:43 |
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| ttx | fungi: we got a failure on the os-brick release job: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-job-failures/2018-November/000995.html | 12:08 |
| ttx | Looks like transient failure so reenqueuing the job should work | 12:08 |
| ttx | ("No local packages or working download links found for pbr>=2.0.0") | 12:08 |
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| ttx | bnemec: when do you expect oslo.limit to be ready for an initial release ? Some time in Stein ? | 12:32 |
| ttx | smcginnis: dhellmann: I feel like all devstack-plugins should be marked "release-management: none" since we did not do anything about them in Rocky... thoughts ? | 12:37 |
| ttx | fungi: looks like RAX has network issues, we had several other fails | 12:39 |
| ttx | hmm, or is it pypi.org | 12:40 |
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| TheJulia | ttx: molteniron is considered feature complete/stable and only released as necessary. Tenks will likely be handled the same way we handle things like virtualbmc and sushy-tools | 13:07 |
| ttx | TheJulia: molteniron was never released though afaict | 13:09 |
| TheJulia | Oo | 13:10 |
| TheJulia | I thought it was at least once | 13:10 |
| ttx | hence my question :) | 13:10 |
| ttx | Maybe we should make it independent and release it asap | 13:11 |
| TheJulia | I thought it had been once a long long long time ago | 13:11 |
| ttx | no tag | 13:11 |
| TheJulia | yup | 13:11 |
| TheJulia | wow | 13:11 |
| ttx | hmmm, has a 1.0 on pypi | 13:12 |
| ttx | or not | 13:12 |
| TheJulia | I bet hamzy did it manually :\ | 13:12 |
| ttx | can't really find tarball in there | 13:13 |
| ttx | so maybe a 1.1 is in order | 13:13 |
| TheJulia | yeah, seems like it | 13:13 |
| ttx | well I mean 1.1.0 | 13:14 |
| TheJulia | even with no coffee i groked it that way | 13:14 |
| ttx | ok, thanks for the details! | 13:15 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: agree on devstack-plugins | 13:29 |
| smcginnis | Infra issues causing those release failures? | 13:29 |
| tosky | ttx: re openstackclient, it contains only few tests; the real repository is python-openstackclient | 13:35 |
| tosky | ttx: last time when I asked about it, it seemed like it should be branched, but not sure about releases (see http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-sdks/%23openstack-sdks.2018-09-27.log.html#t2018-09-27T12:39:22 ) | 13:38 |
| ttx | tosky: the question is more whether the release team should care about it or not... If it's meant to be branched the answer is yes | 13:39 |
| ttx | but so far it has not been | 13:39 |
| tosky | ttx: the branching looks like more an administrative thing, required to have tests working (see the discussion) | 13:40 |
| tosky | a bit weird, I concur | 13:40 |
| tosky | but probably mordred and dtroyer know something about it too | 13:40 |
| ttx | hmm, ok. If the branch is manually made (rather than driven by openstack/releases) then the answer is no :) | 13:41 |
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| mordred | ttx: I'm not 100% sure about how openstackclient has been being managed. my understanding is that it's mostly just a metapackage which installs python-openstackclient plus additional depends to make it easy to install a batteries included version of osc + plugins | 14:09 |
| mordred | I don't think it changes very frequently | 14:10 |
| mordred | ttx: dtroyer is definitely the best one to respond properly on thatone | 14:10 |
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| ttx | mordred: The issue here is that it was never released, so I'm not sure how to USE that metapackage | 14:27 |
| ttx | Could be independent and VERY RARELY released, that would work. Or we remove it. But the current status make it look pretty weird | 14:28 |
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| smcginnis | fungi: Morning. Did you see the ping from ttx earlier? Looks like some release jobs failed with external issues. | 15:11 |
| bnemec | ttx: I'm not sure. There's still quite a lot of discussion around what the oslo.limit API should look like. lbragstad might have a better idea though. | 15:17 |
| lbragstad | o/ johnthetubaguy, jaypipes, and myself are all trying to figure that out | 15:18 |
| lbragstad | there were a few PoC reviews up in nova trying to consume it | 15:18 |
| lbragstad | i can follow back up with them - i don't think it moved much since people were preparing/recovering from the summit | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | ttx: the openstack/openstackclient repo is a meta package to install OSC and a bunch of extra plugins. I guess dtroyer and stevemar never actually tagged a release, though? | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I'm not sure what to do with devstack-plugins. do we need to tag those at all? | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Seems like maybe the same thing that applies to tempest plugins would apply to devstack plugins? | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | Feeling better dhellmann? | 15:24 |
| fungi | smcginnis: yes, looks like frickler has opened a ticket with rackspace about (intermittent?) ipv6 connectivity issues between mirror.dfw.rax.o.o and the fastly cdn for pypi.org | 15:27 |
| fungi | but then ttx pointed out one similar failure was in limestone | 15:27 |
| fungi | both are in texas, and i'm getting intermittent ipv6 connectivity from home to both of them as well though i'm not sure it's related | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks fungi. Guess we should wait to retry things once things have been cleared up. | 15:29 |
| fungi | yeah, it may have already cleared up but i haven't been able to confirm yet | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | Better to not rush it. | 15:30 |
| ttx | bnemec: ok thanks! Will keep it as "too young to be released" for now | 15:34 |
| ttx | dhellmann: apparently no need to tag devstack plugins at all. Some of them are already release-management: none, so I'll just add the others to that list | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : enough to check in, but I'm probably going to drop back off in a bit | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | ttx: wfm | 15:35 |
| ttx | re: openstackclient it probably is just missing a release | 15:35 |
| dhellmann | yes, I think that's the case. | 15:36 |
| smcginnis | I've developed a cold over the last few days, but only bad enough to make my brain a little more fuzzy than normal. | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer : what do you think? | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | I haven't been this sick in a few years. It took most of the day Monday for the fever to break, and the cats were hovering around me like "there will be meat soon" | 15:37 |
| ttx | yummy | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | although that might have been a fever dream, too | 15:37 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 15:38 |
| ttx | dhellmann: re deliverables that are meant to be released but have not been released yet, I'm tempted to account for them using basic deliverable files, so that they don't show up in my oddity report | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | Blank placeholders? | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | we could add a release model "none" so we don't count them as unreleased | 15:39 |
| ttx | well, a bit like the files we drop in the new cycle directory | 15:39 |
| ttx | basically there is this gap when a deliverable is in governance but too young to be released | 15:40 |
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| ttx | we could just accept those as being the oddity report normal output I guess | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | oh, sorry, I misread what you said | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | I missed "meant to be released" | 15:41 |
| ttx | Currently it's a long list, but I'm working on fixing that | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | yeah, adding a deliverable file without any releases is exactly what I had in mind | 15:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we have release-management: none to track those that are not meant to be release-managed | 15:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: would still show as unreleased, but that's what they are really | 15:42 |
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| ttx | I'm just worried they would show up in auto-generated releases | 15:43 |
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| ttx | maybe we should make sure to ignore things that were NEVER released in autoreleases | 15:43 |
| dhellmann | I think the site rendering code ignores deliverables with no releases, if that's what you're worried about | 15:44 |
| ttx | there would still be cruft. Like if I add a "placement" deliverable but it's not ready to be released by end of stein... it would show in all release reports | 15:44 |
| ttx | dhellmann: no, more worried about the code that proposes library releases every milestone | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Make 1.4.0 release of os-service-types https://review.openstack.org/620636 | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ah | 15:45 |
| ttx | that code should probably not propose a first release. Only refreshes | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/releases master: Release 0.20.0 of openstacksdk https://review.openstack.org/620639 | 15:46 |
| ttx | I prefer to deal with cruft deliverable files at the end of a cycle if a given thing happens to not be ready yet... than have unidentified gaps falling between the cracks | 15:47 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/releases master: Release kolla and kolla-ansible stable releases https://review.openstack.org/620677 | 18:39 |
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