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openstackgerritTrinh Nguyen proposed openstack/releases master: Release Searchlight for the Stein-2 milestone  https://review.openstack.org/62947100:49
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/releases master: Move goals research link  https://review.openstack.org/62969501:15
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/releases master: Make it clear which term a TC election is for  https://review.openstack.org/62969601:15
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train TC election to schedule  https://review.openstack.org/62969701:15
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openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Stein M2  https://review.openstack.org/62975303:22
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train elections to schedule  https://review.openstack.org/62969704:50
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/releases master: No longer watch for changes from the proposal-bot  https://review.openstack.org/62976705:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add new Sahara deliverables in Stein (plugins)  https://review.openstack.org/62943305:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Searchlight for the Stein-2 milestone  https://review.openstack.org/62947105:26
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Fix WordCompleter import  https://review.openstack.org/62979108:48
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openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Files doesn't need to be byte encoded  https://review.openstack.org/62980809:27
openstackgerritJean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: First release of ansible-config_template  https://review.openstack.org/62980909:28
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/releases master: Release Mistral for the Stein-2 milestone  https://review.openstack.org/62982410:13
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/releases master: Release mistral-lib Rocky bugfix  https://review.openstack.org/62982610:21
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-mistralclient Rocky bugfix  https://review.openstack.org/62982710:21
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/releases master: Release mistral-lib Rocky bugfix  https://review.openstack.org/62982610:21
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-mistralclient Rocky bugfix  https://review.openstack.org/62982710:22
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armstrongHello15:01
armstrongMeeting today?15:02
smcginnisarmstrong: Yes, one hour from now.15:02
armstrongOh15:03
armstrongCan you point any review that I can be looking at?15:04
smcginnisarmstrong: The dashboard linked in the tracking etherpad is usually where I go to see what needs to be reviewed.15:06
smcginnishttp://tiny.cc/a1mkwy15:07
armstrongOk thanks15:07
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 10 16:00:25 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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ttxo/16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'16:00
smcginnishttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking16:00
armstrongo/16:00
smcginnisPing: ttx dhellmann armstrong evrardjp diablo_rojo_phon16:01
evrardjpo/16:01
smcginnisttx: Thanks for adding agenda items16:01
dhellmanno/16:01
ttxmy pleasure16:01
smcginnis#topic Membership freeze16:02
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smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UChiqxElUV16:02
ttxSo there are a number of new deliverables for which we should probably add a an empty deliverable file, but we kinda need their PTL to agree with that16:02
ttxI listed the teams in the stein-relmgt-tracking etherpad16:03
ttxSahara got it done, lxkong told me he would do qinling-dashboard...16:03
ttxpuppet-placement is taken care of in the latest Puppet Stein-2 request16:03
ttxmaybe that means that puppet-crane and puppet-senlni are out16:04
ttxI feel like we need to ping the various PTLs to close that16:04
evrardjpagreed16:04
ttxbnemec: any stein plans for oslo.limit ? or will it be too young for Stein?16:05
smcginnisI had hoped Adjutant would be a little more active.16:05
evrardjpOSH is the one that worries me the most, as its the whole project that never followed the process16:05
smcginnise0ne: Can you add an empty deliverable file for tempest-horizon?16:05
* diablo_rojo sneaks in a few min late 16:05
bnemecI think Lance recently sent an update about oslo.limit. Let me look.16:05
smcginnismlavell is out this morning, but I can ping him on the neutron one.16:05
e0nesmcginnis: sure. I'll do it right now16:05
evrardjpI will ping portdirect16:05
smcginnise0ne: Thanks!16:06
ttxISTR e0ne saying tempest-horizon should be branched this cycle, so we should probably just push a deliverable file to track that16:06
ttxhah, jinx16:06
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO stein-2 release  https://review.openstack.org/62988616:06
bnemecttx: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/001518.html is the current status of oslo.limit.16:06
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ttxEmilienM: does that mean that puppet-crane and puppet-senlin won't be in Stein?16:06
ttxerr16:07
ttxI mean that the new ansible-role-tripleo things and ansible-role-k8s things are not a part of Stein ?16:07
bnemecTLDR: There are patches proposed to implement the oslo.limit API, but there's still discussion over what that API should look like so they haven't merged yet.16:07
dhellmannbnemec : if we're going to expect a release this cycle, I think we should go ahead and add a stub file16:08
EmilienMttx: they arent ready yet to be released16:08
EmilienMthey are still being prototyped16:08
dhellmannEmilienM : do you expect them to be part of stein?16:08
EmilienMwe won't waste anyone's time before they are ready to be released16:08
EmilienMdhellmann: good question - they are low prio in our backlog at this time - I want to say yes but can't commit16:08
dhellmannI guess that means no, and if that changes they'll just be released as independent?16:08
ttxdhellmann: I guess that's the limit of the MembershipFreeze as it stands16:09
smcginnisbnemec: Do you expect a release for steing?16:09
smcginnis*stein16:09
e0nettx:  we discussed yesterday in the meeting that it's OK to make the retirement of xstatic-* projects wich were not released anytime. what is the best way to do it?16:09
EmilienMin that case we can make them independent for now until they are ready16:09
e0neI can propose corresponding commits to the repos and remove them from. deliveries16:09
ttxe0ne: for release management purposes we'll just mark them deprecated. After that you should consider retiring the repositories16:10
e0nettx: thanks. I'll propose a patch today or tomorrow16:10
ttxe0ne: I can do it, and will ping you for a +116:10
smcginnise0ne: There's some details here if you want to clean up those repos: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#retiring-a-project16:11
e0nesmcginnis: thank you. that's actually I was looking for16:11
bnemecdhellmann: smcginnis: I'm...not sure. It really depends on whether the Nova team has time to sit down and hash out how they will use it.16:11
bnemecWe had kind of agreed to hold off on releasing until we thought we had a usable API.16:12
dhellmannok, it sounds like we should assume "no" and release it as independent if we have to for this cycle16:12
smcginnisdhellmann: ++16:12
bnemecYeah, if it does get released it's going to be just for people to kick the tires and get started on integration work.16:13
bnemecI don't see it being supported in Stein.16:13
smcginnisMakes sense.16:13
ttxe0ne: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629889/16:14
fungii'm starting to get the feeling we need a defined category/process/something to accommodate deliverables which are still being bootstrapped16:15
fungifrom an infra perspective, we often see teams create a new repository for something they want to build, but don't even push up the first review for code going into it for months16:15
evrardjpfungi: that's fair16:15
openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/releases master: Add deliverable stub for Horizon Tempest Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/62989016:15
dhellmannwe've had folks tell us they can only contribute to official repos, so we try to get them into governance as quickly as possible normally, but if the effort stalls out that also tends to leave no one doing the cleanup16:16
fungialso true. we have plenty of examples of tat16:17
fungier, of that16:17
evrardjpso you mean it's the duty of releases to report that cleanup needs to happen ?16:17
evrardjp(new here)16:17
dhellmannevrardjp : we tend to notice, because we try to track which deliverables are actually being produced in a release16:17
funginot preparing a new(ish) deliverable for release can be a sign that it was a quickly abandoned effort, sure16:17
ttxok that leaves neutron-interconnection and Adjutant16:17
dhellmanntechnically it's the PTL's job, I think16:17
ttxand puppet-crane / puppet-senlin16:18
ttxasking the question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629753/ for the puppet modules16:19
ttxwho contacts who?16:20
ttxfor Adjutant I have limited timezone compatibility16:20
smcginnisI can contact Adjutant and Neutron.16:20
ttxok cool16:20
smcginnisDid we get input on tripleO?16:21
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dhellmanndid we have questions beyond the 2 repos mentioned with EmilienM earlier?16:23
ttxI think EmilienM clarified that16:23
ttxit's more than 2, but yes16:23
ttxansible-role-k8s-*16:23
dhellmannah16:23
ttxansible-role-tripleo-*16:23
ttx+ tripleo-common-tempest-plugin for bonus points16:23
ttxOK we have this under control?16:26
smcginnisSo do we have all of them in the list covered?16:26
smcginnisI think so.(?)16:26
ttxlooks like smcginnis has the same timeout settings than me16:26
smcginnis:)16:26
dhellmannit seems like it16:27
ttxI'm sure we'll be missing some but at least everyone is flagged16:27
ttxWe can fix more next week16:27
smcginnisProgress!16:27
smcginnis#topic Stein-2 status16:27
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smcginnisI've seen a few roll in this week.16:27
smcginnisSome non-lib releases too, so that's good.16:28
smcginnisI seem to have lost my scripts from last milestone, but I didn't have much anyway.16:28
smcginnisSo I will look at scripting up something to propose lib releases for things that have actual changes committed so far.16:28
ttxsmcginnis: are you handling the autoreleases ?16:28
smcginnisI would welcome any volunteers, but I can take that if no one else wants it.16:29
smcginnisBetween stuff in tools and cmds, we have most of the needed functionality out there. Just need to duct tape a few extra steps together.16:30
dhellmannyeah, we just need the command to build the list of things that need releases16:30
dhellmannI think that's just: list-deliverables --unreleased --type library --type client-library16:30
smcginnisThen filter out things that only have zuul job changes and the like.16:31
smcginnisAnd then propose the releases for the things that need it.16:31
smcginnisAny other questions, issues, concerns, etc. for stein-2?16:32
ttxI don;t think so16:33
smcginnis#topic PTG update16:33
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dhellmanntools/list_library_unreleased_changes.sh will build the report16:33
dhellmannoh, no, that's going to give too many projects16:33
dhellmannignore me16:33
smcginnisJust wanted to mention diablo_rojo_phon had sent out the survey for team planning at the ptg.16:34
smcginnisdhellmann: Yeah, I think I started with tweaking that one last time.16:34
smcginnisI put us down as needing a room.16:34
dhellmann./tools/list_unreleased_changes.sh master $(.tox/venv/bin/list-deliverables --unreleased --type library --type client-library -r)16:34
smcginnisAlso spoke briefly with prometheanfire about possibly joining up with requirements.16:34
dhellmannthat makes sense16:35
smcginnisNot sure on the room situation, but I noted that if things were tight we could probably just use the hallway.16:35
smcginnisBut it was nice having a room and a whiteboar d last time.16:35
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/releases master: Release ironic-lib 2.16.1  https://review.openstack.org/62989416:35
dhellmannsmcginnis : ++16:36
smcginnisStill a ways out, but I'm sure it will come up quick.16:36
smcginnisLooking forward to those 6+ days of events. :)16:36
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:37
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smcginnisAnything else to discuss today?16:37
ttxthings will be tight16:37
dhellmannI'm going to be out next week due to travel. I should be able to take any release reviews on my Monday morning, but Tuesday might be more challenging because I'll be in meetings all day.16:37
smcginnisttx: Oh? Any idea on venue size relative to past locations?16:37
smcginnisdhellmann: ack, thanks16:38
evrardjpout next week too16:38
smcginnisI will be out Friday, but that should be OK.16:38
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ttxEarly plans show it's about the same number of rooms... but only 3 days instead of 516:38
ttxso we expect a bit of tension16:38
dhellmannI wonder if the weather will be nice enough for us to PTG outside16:39
diablo_rojodefinitely more conflicts for people involved in all the things16:39
evrardjpcolocating with other teams seem ok just on different parts of the room :p16:39
evrardjpdhellmann: :)16:39
diablo_rojodhellmann, in the mountains?16:39
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evrardjpI will take my camelback and good shoes then16:39
dhellmanndiablo_rojo : I think the river is closer16:39
ttxevrardjp: coming to FOSDEM?16:39
smcginnisOutdoors sounds great to me.16:40
diablo_rojoSounds good to me.16:40
smcginnisAny other important topics? Or should we wrap it up for today?16:40
evrardjpttx: yes16:40
dhellmannnothing from me16:40
evrardjpas usual, hodling the booth :p16:40
ttxevrardjp: I did a last-minute impulse decision and will be there too16:41
evrardjpI have to write the etherpad of booth duty, and I will be happy to see you, diablo_rojo, and many others there16:41
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ttx...16:42
evrardjpttx: regretting already? :p16:42
ttxwhat did I sign up for16:42
evrardjphahaha16:42
ttxAll that for beers, I'm so cheap16:42
evrardjp: )16:42
evrardjpbut belgian ones16:42
smcginnisMmm16:43
evrardjpwe should probably close the meeting if we are talking about fosdem though :p16:43
smcginnis:)16:43
smcginnisThanks everyone!16:43
ttxyeah. not as good as Czech ones, but I'll take them.16:43
smcginnis#endmeeting16:43
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diablo_rojoThanks smcginnis!16:43
evrardjpthanks smcginnis16:44
evrardjpttx: I hate you now, go back drink your wine! :p16:45
ttxhmmm.. wine16:45
fungithanks smcginnis!16:46
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tobias-urdinwe have a puppet module (puppet-senlin) which have been outside of a "release" because we missed releasing it in rocky so it's 0.0.1, now we want to release it for stein by adding it in our stein m2 release, what is the preferred versioning to use? should be just bump to 0.0.2 or use 0.2.0 so we can atleast follow milestones?16:48
tobias-urdinor do 1.0.0 or 1.2.0 to follow m2?16:49
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Fix incorrect date for Stein-3  https://review.openstack.org/62990016:52
dhellmanntobias-urdin : I think probably either 0.1.0 or 1.0.0, depending on how stable you consider the interfaces16:52
tobias-urdindhellmann: thanks16:57
TheJuliaGreetings release folks. I'd like to try and get an updated ironic-lib release pushed out to address some issues we've been encountering in CI. tl;dr reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629894/ would be much appreciated. Thanks!17:07
smcginnisTheJulia: Looking now.17:08
TheJuliathanks17:08
smcginnisTheJulia: I'll try to watch for the requirements update too.17:08
TheJuliasmcginnis: <317:10
TheJuliaThanks17:10
smcginnisNo problem17:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release ironic-lib 2.16.1  https://review.openstack.org/62989417:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add deliverable stub for Horizon Tempest Plugin  https://review.openstack.org/62989018:21
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Mistral for the Stein-2 milestone  https://review.openstack.org/62982418:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Fix WordCompleter import  https://review.openstack.org/62979118:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Files doesn't need to be byte encoded  https://review.openstack.org/62980818:32
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tellesnobregasmcginnis, hi19:49
smcginnisHey tellesnobrega19:49
tellesnobregawe still have time to cut M2 for sahara right?19:49
tellesnobregaor that is not necessary?19:50
smcginnistellesnobrega: It's not necessary for services that were switched from cycle-with-milestones to cycle-with-rc.19:50
smcginnisUnless you know someone will pick up and use that beta release, we're better off not doing them.19:50
smcginnistellesnobrega: But if you have any libs that are ready to be released, you can do those at any point.19:51
tellesnobregasmcginnis, awesome19:51
tellesnobregathanks19:51
smcginnisNo problem, thanks for checking.19:52
tellesnobrega:)19:58
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO stein-2 release  https://review.openstack.org/62988620:56
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