Thursday, 2019-01-31

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release monasca-tempest-plugin 0.3.0 for Stein
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release neutron-lib 1.23.0
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Manila stable/rocky 7.1.0 release
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Manila stable/queens 6.1.0 release
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Skip repos if not handled by release management
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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Improve script output by prefixing results with dash
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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Allow users to format output results to the yaml format.
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Skip repos if not handled by release management
ttxsmcginnis: meeting?16:01
smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam16:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 31 16:01:43 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)"16:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'16:01
smcginnisPeople need to stop pinging me right before meeting start times. :)16:02
smcginnisttx: Not referring to you - others that are making me late.16:02
smcginnisPing list: smcginnis ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp16:02
smcginnisOK, good...16:04
smcginnis#topic Review days16:04
*** openstack changes topic to "Review days (Meeting topic: releaseteam)"16:04
smcginnisNow that we have a few more folks, it would be good to redo what our review days are.16:05
smcginnisAnd actually get it written down.16:05
smcginnisI've added a section to the top of the tracking etherpad.16:05
evrardjpsounds good16:05
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: You around?16:05
diablo_rojo_phonIn Brussels about to figure out dinner, but can follow along here :)16:06
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: OK, just wanted to make sure you were at least aware of the review days.16:07
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: When you have time, please add your name to one of the days on the top of the tracking etherpad.16:07
diablo_rojo_phonMuch appreciated smcginnis :)16:07
diablo_rojo_phonWill do!16:07
smcginnisAny questions, concerns, comments on review days?16:08
smcginnisttx, dhellmann: or additional commentary?16:08
dhellmannI've signed up for friday, which is usually a light day, so I can float on other days for a while, too16:08
diablo_rojo_phonNothing from me. I picked Tuesday but if we want me to shift I can do that too.16:09
smcginnisdhellmann: I will do the same. Will be helpful while evrardjp and diablo_rojo_phon get up to speed.16:09
evrardjpI picked the last day16:09
smcginnisIf any of these end up to be particularly troublesome days for anyone, just let us know and we can adjust.16:10
smcginnis#topic Clarify Stein membership status for tripleo-common-tempest-plugin16:10
*** openstack changes topic to "Clarify Stein membership status for tripleo-common-tempest-plugin (Meeting topic: releaseteam)"16:10
smcginnisttx: You have the background on this?16:10
ttxIt's the last leftover on the MembershipFreeze analysis16:11
ttx(a repo that is in governance but not defined in release management yet)16:11
smcginnisDo they not expect to be ready for any releases in stein?16:11
ttxWhen I last asked EmilienM he said he was not sure16:11
ttxas the created got reassigned16:12
ttxI think we could just consider it Train material if it ever gets picked up16:12
smcginnisHey EmilienM16:12
ttxjust wanted to double-check with y'all if that was ok16:12
ttx(including EmilienM )16:13
dhellmannit's also a tempest plugin, so it could be independent if needed for now16:13
EmilienMjaosorior: do you know the status on tripleo-common-tempest-plugin ?16:13
EmilienMtbh I don't think this repo is going anywhere, it has a super low activity16:13
ttxok, so safe to skip16:13
smcginnisAre there any tests defined?16:13
jaosoriorEmilienM: let me figure that out16:14
EmilienMit is safe to skip yes16:14
jaosoriorEmilienM: chandankumar might know. He's not online though. so I'll ask him tomorrow16:14
ttxlet's say that we'll ignore it unless you tell us otherwise16:14
jaosoriorEmilienM: but yeah, lets skip it16:14
smcginnisLooks like just the framework with no tests.16:14
smcginnisI'm fine skipping it for now and reevaluating during train.16:14
smcginnisAny objections to that plan or other thoughts?16:15
smcginnisOK, thanks everyone.16:16
jaosoriorthank you!16:16
smcginnis#topic Organize pre s-final-lib tasks16:16
*** openstack changes topic to "Organize pre s-final-lib tasks (Meeting topic: releaseteam)"16:16
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ttxSo I copied a bunch to the Stein-3 - 2 week16:17
ttxsince they were marked "two weeks before"16:17
smcginnisThat looks good.16:17
smcginnisThe artifact signing key is an important one.16:18
ttxWe did That left two, one that you covered in a weekly email16:18
ttxthe other I left to discuss16:18
ttx"Follow up with PTLs and liaisons for projects that missed the second milestone, or still haven’t done their library releases yet ?"16:18
ttxAlso for R-7 I won't be much around so it might be a good idea to pre-assign those tasks16:19
ttxjust in case people have questions on how to do them16:19
smcginnisSo we should probably change that wording in the process doc since the cycle-with-rc change makes "missing the second milestone" the norm.16:19
dhellmanngood point16:20
smcginnisWe have the automatic releases for libraries, but from the paste of a run I did this morning, looks like there maybe should have been a couple that were somehow missed.16:20
ttxdid we follow up with those intermediary who did not release before milestone-2 though16:20
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smcginnisI thought so? I should look again.16:20
* ttx tries to remember if those should be switched to cycle-with-rc immediately, or after stein-316:21
smcginnisProbably after stein-3?16:21
ttx"Two weeks before milestone 3, warn cycle-with-intermediary projects that had changes over the cycle but no release yet that the release team will tag HEAD of master for their project if they have not prepared a release by the following week so that there is a fallback release to use for the cycle and as a place to create their stable branch."16:22
smcginnisWell, it's possible there's a script issue, but "list-deliverables --unreleased --model cycle-with-intermediary" doesn't look like any missed unless I'm misinterpreting the output.16:22
dhellmannstep 5 under
ttxnot sure we documented that "switch to rc " policy16:22
smcginnisI don't think so.16:22
ttxsmcginnis: I haven't tracked closely which emails of the new policy ended up being sent16:24
smcginnisI've added a note for the R-7 countdown email to make sure to include that message.16:24
ttx has in "email 4":16:24
ttx"To encourage (force?) this, we would require at least two releases of a non-library cycle-with-intermediary project during the cycle. If a release is not done by milestone 2, these projects would be switched to the new cycle-with-rc. "16:24
smcginnisI thought we (I) had sent all of those, but now I'm wondering about that last one.16:25
dhellmannwouldn't hurt to send a reminder, even if we did send that16:25
ttxIt's a bit late to send it if we haven't though16:26
dhellmannI get a rather long list of things that haven't released16:27
ttxnot surprising16:28
dhellmannalthough a bunch of those are tempest plugins so I should filter it more16:28
smcginnisI guess so:
dhellmann91 without filtering16:28
ttxI feel like we missed our window16:28
dhellmannwe could change the deadline16:29
smcginnisI agree. We can still propose to change these to cycle-with-rc and have a conversation with the teams over the patch for it.16:29
ttxSo/// mandate at least one, and done before stein-3?16:29
dhellmannlist-deliverables --unreleased --model cycle-with-intermediary --type library --type client-library --type service  --type horizon-plugin -> 4516:29
ttxrather than mandate at least 2 with one done before stein-216:29
ttxand keep that "evolution" for Train16:29
smcginnisI can include that in today's countdown email.16:29
dhellmannwell, at least 2 with 1 before s-316:29
ttxdhellmann: I think it's a bit late to announce that if we have not mentioned it before16:30
dhellmannwe should make sure we haven't actually mentioned it, I guess16:30
* ttx is searching email archives16:30
dhellmannthere are only 10 unreleased services16:30
dhellmannaodh, ceilometer, cloudkitty, magnum, panko, solum, tacker, tricircle, watcher, zun16:31
smcginnisI can include that list in the countdown and refer to our stated changes that these should consider switching to cycle-with-rc.16:32
ttxyeah can't find anything beyond email 116:32
smcginnisI know I sent at least up to 3.16:33
ttxProposed changes for cycle-with-intermediary services releases, December 316:33
ttx"If a release is not done by milestone 2, these projects would be switched to16:33
ttxthe new cycle-with-rc.16:33
ttxso it was announced!16:34
ttxand ignored16:34
dhellmannso a reminder with a link to the patch making the change seems like a good idea16:34
evrardjpI had the feeling it was, but no proof :)16:34
evrardjpthanks for the grep skills ttx :p16:34
smcginnisOK, so I think I can propose patches changing the deliverables in that list to -rc and add the PTLs to it. Then we can discuss on there.16:34
smcginnisttx: Do you have a date on that email?16:35
evrardjpHe said december3?16:35
smcginnisOh, sorry. :)16:35
ttxYep. I guess if someone replies with an immediate release request that's fine too16:35
dhellmannsure, that works for me16:35
ttxIt's one of the first to be sent to -discuss16:35
ttxmaybe it was missed16:36
evrardjpoh that's why I didn't find it in dev: )16:36
smcginnisHigh probability of that.16:36
ttxSo some reminder email would not hurt16:36
smcginnisI'll mention in the countdown, then get some patches up to change those.16:36
ttxand offer the option to immediately do an intermediary release if they really don't want to be cycle-with-rc16:36
smcginnisWe said milestone 2, but I think we can be flexible.16:37
ttxyeah, we did not really handle comms on that perfectly around milestone-2 :)16:37
dhellmannyeah :-/16:37
ttxthat also points to missing doc in PROCESS16:38
ttxwe trusted PROCESS but it was not updated16:38
dhellmanngood point16:39
ttxwhich is why we missed16:39
ttxat least why I missed it16:39
smcginnisYeah, I think we need to go through that whole doc and make sure it's still accurate too.16:39
evrardjpthat sounds a good idea. Is it too late to do it at the next summit together?16:39
ttxIt's not, since it does not mention anythign about switching to cycle-with-rc after milestone-216:39
dhellmannyeah, we really need to review that every cycle16:39
ttxthat December 3 email is not reflected in there afaict16:40
ttxok, let's add that as tasks for R-916:40
smcginnisOK, thanks for adding that.16:41
smcginnisAnything else we should cover on this topic?16:41
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:42
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ttxsmcginnis: do the tasks I added for next week correctly cover the work that needs to be done?16:42
smcginnisI think so. That covers the notes I had written down.16:43
dhellmannI think that covers it16:43
dhellmannttx: we should make the change patch first so we can link to it in the email16:43
smcginnisOK, anything else?16:43
dhellmannnothing from me16:44
smcginnisHave fund at FOSDEM.16:44
smcginnisAnd have funds...16:44
evrardjpone is required for the other16:44
smcginnisAlright, thanks everyone.16:45
ttxThanks smcginnis !16:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Allow users to format output results to the yaml format.
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