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| fungi | heads up, not that i expect there are any releases getting approved at the moment, but we're taking a quick zuul scheduler restart to apply some additional debug logging changes | 02:01 |
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| Li_Liu | hi guys | 03:08 |
| Li_Liu | let's get started | 03:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: stein: release oslo.db 4.43.1 https://review.openstack.org/636628 | 13:35 |
| mriedem | bnemec: smcginnis: ^ do test-requirement dep version bumps require a minor version release? | 13:35 |
| mriedem | hacking was updated in there | 13:35 |
| mriedem | otherwise it's just bug fixes | 13:35 |
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| smcginnis | mriedem: No, test requirements don't impact packaging, so that wouldn't require a minor bump. | 14:01 |
| mriedem | ok that's what i figured | 14:01 |
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| dhellmann | evrardjp : I have a few minute to do some release reviews, but it's your day so I don't want to step on your toes if you have that scheduled for later. Let me know if I should go ahead. | 14:25 |
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| evrardjp | I have that scheduled today after my meeting -- it should be around 34 minutes from now | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | mriedem , smcginnis : the validation job is failing because of that requirements change, so I think we were enforcing minor version bumps for test dependencies | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | I wish we could get all of the linter dependencies out of the test list and into tox.ini directly so we could ignore them | 14:28 |
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| dhellmann | I think we expect distros to package what's in test-requirements.txt so they can run tests locally as part of building their packages | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | as far as I know, only debian runs the linters | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Shouldn't we be ignoring that if it's a test requirement? | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | see 2 lines up | 14:30 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah, but still seems odd to me. | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | I didn't think we used to enforce that for test requirement changes. | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | I don't think anyone has touched that code in a long time. Maybe it's a bug | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | but I thought we did, because distros do package test dependencies | 14:32 |
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| evrardjp | I am a noob there, what's the use case to do that? | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | that section of the code was last changed 2017-11-29 | 14:35 |
| evrardjp | except for building source packages? | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | evrardjp : some distros build packages and then run the unit tests as a validation of the package | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | at least that's what I've been told | 14:36 |
| evrardjp | ok | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | I see no point in running a linter over a package | 14:36 |
| evrardjp | likewise | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | unit tests I do get | 14:36 |
| evrardjp | I don't | 14:36 |
| evrardjp | shouldn't that be the responsibility of the code maintainer itself? I understand some functional testing though :p | 14:37 |
| evrardjp | but I guess it all means different things to different ppl, and also doesn't scale the same wy | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | I wonder if this is being triggered by a change in pbr | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | because our code is building the sdist and then looking at the dependency file within it | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | so if pbr didn't used to include the test dependencies ... | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | well, unit tests are a way to ensure that the things I put in my RPM actually work in some way | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | they're not sufficient, but it's a smoke test for missing a file or something like that | 14:38 |
| evrardjp | yeah it could | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : do you use the list-changes job output when you review changes? I see you left at least one comment with the list of patches in a release, and that info (and more) is all in the list-changes report | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | e.g.: http://logs.openstack.org/28/636628/1/check/releases-tox-list-changes/f62cc70/tox/list-changes-results.log | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | dhellmann: i use it when reviewing chagnes, | 15:40 |
| mriedem | but when i submit one i look at the diff before hand to check the version to use | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: stein: release oslo.db 4.44.0 https://review.openstack.org/636628 | 15:52 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: bnemec: smcginnis: i took the easy route | 15:52 |
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| evrardjp | smcginnis: everytime a projects goes to with-rc, a deployment project dies. | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 15:59 |
| evrardjp | (Imagine the deployment projects as puppies, and it's a sad story) | 15:59 |
| evrardjp | :D | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | It should actually be better, because the ones that are switching are the ones that were just waiting until the very end of the cycle to do a release. | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | So now there will at least be an RC available ahead of that. | 15:59 |
| evrardjp | they would branch at rc time anyway, so it's still the need to regurgitate all those patches in one go... My problem is not NOT releasing at all (or late), but rather spreading the work over the cycle makes the thing easier.. But I guess it's always about tradeoffs :D | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | anyway it's better than not producing anything and look dead. | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | dhellmann: I am confused by this: https://releases.openstack.org/reference/reviewer_guide.html#requirements-changes (last line) vs your comment: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636628/2 | 16:05 |
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| evrardjp | (if you could explain the pbr bit, it would be helpful, and then I can maybe adapt the docs there? ) | 16:05 |
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| mriedem | bnemec: before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636029/ i'd really like to also get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/635894 into that release | 16:08 |
| mriedem | to help with http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1813147 | 16:08 |
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| amotoki | evrardjp: hi, I commented to your question in neutron-lib release patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636407/ . I hope it answers to your question. | 16:46 |
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| evrardjp | thanks! | 16:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin Kopec proposed openstack/releases master: Update python-tempestconf to 2.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/635818 | 17:09 |
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| dhellmann | evrardjp , diablo_rojo : nice work on the reviews this week! I went ahead and flushed the queue for the stein releases that you'd both approved. | 18:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: python-novaclient: release stein 12.0.0 https://review.openstack.org/635938 | 19:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Switch Zun service to cycle-with-rc https://review.openstack.org/635663 | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: tooz 1.64.1 https://review.openstack.org/636172 | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Switch Magnum service to cycle-with-rc https://review.openstack.org/635658 | 19:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: stein: release oslo.db 4.44.0 https://review.openstack.org/636628 | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, thanks! I plan on doing some more today. When I did them the other day there were a lot more than I had time for. | 19:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release os-traits 0.11.0 https://review.openstack.org/635927 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: osc-placement: release stein 1.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/635951 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: release neutron-lib 1.24.0 https://review.openstack.org/636407 | 19:10 |
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| dhellmann | diablo_rojo : yeah, no worries. we're in a bit of a crunch period right now so it should slow down again before the final rush at the end of the cycle | 19:48 |
| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, makes sense. I expected the end of release rush. Now that I am thinking about it, I suppose it makes sense there there are more ebbs and flows besides the end of release. | 19:50 |
| dhellmann | milestones used to be more of a rush than they are today, but there are still a few deadlines that trigger a bunch of work in a given week | 20:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Proposed release schedule for Train https://review.openstack.org/636742 | 20:06 |
| smcginnis | Speaking of milestones. ^ | 20:06 |
| smcginnis | Figured I would get the ball rolling on that. | 20:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/releases master: Add Cycle-Highlights to process.rst https://review.openstack.org/636231 | 22:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: Release oslo.versionedobjects 1.35.0 https://review.openstack.org/636029 | 23:35 |
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