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| evrardjp | thanks tonyb | 06:27 |
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| tonyb[m] | evrardjp: thanks for? | 07:17 |
| evrardjp | tonyb[m]: proposing the documentation | 07:17 |
| evrardjp | dropping the tribal knowledge somewhere :) | 07:18 |
| tonyb[m] | evrardjp: Ahh okay | 07:18 |
| tonyb[m] | evrardjp: I haven't *done* it yet ;P | 07:18 |
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| evrardjp | I have seen :) | 07:18 |
| evrardjp | but thanks for _thinking about it_ in the first place | 07:18 |
| evrardjp | tonyb[m]: will do my best to attend meetings, but can't promise anything | 07:20 |
| evrardjp | (with the new time) | 07:21 |
| tonyb | evrardjp: I knwo it's magic 8-ball'ish but woudl you say 90% likely you'd be able to make a 2100 meeting or 50% or 10%? | 07:22 |
| evrardjp | I really can't say in advance. It will depend on my wife's work | 07:23 |
| evrardjp | :) | 07:23 |
| evrardjp | I guess we'll try and see :D | 07:23 |
| ttx | smcginnis: yes from a script. It's just dividing the number of commits during the Stein timeframe by the number of days in the Stein cycle | 07:32 |
| ttx | Stein has more commits than Rocky, but was noticeably longer... so dividing by number of days is more fair | 07:32 |
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| ttx | (counting activities for all repos under the TC at the time of commit) | 07:34 |
| ttx | Stein had 34356 commits | 07:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: More stein release note links https://review.openstack.org/651578 | 09:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: tripleoclient: tag RC1 & branch stable/stein https://review.openstack.org/651253 | 09:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Pick up stable series release notes https://review.openstack.org/650911 | 09:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release kolla stable branches https://review.openstack.org/650411 | 09:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: congress-dashboard 3.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/650452 | 09:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: congress-dashboard 2.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/650450 | 09:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: congress-dashboard 1.0.1 https://review.openstack.org/650446 | 09:37 |
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| smcginnis | tonyb: I think a stable release section in the reference is a great idea. | 10:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Handle validation of retired repos https://review.openstack.org/650465 | 11:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: No longer create longlines with edit-deliverables https://review.openstack.org/651762 | 11:43 |
| ttx | That one has been annoying me for a while | 11:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add 'em' tagging to new-release command https://review.openstack.org/650462 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Handle deliverables with legacy teams https://review.openstack.org/650463 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add script to transition entire series to EM or EOL https://review.openstack.org/650464 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Handle validation of retired repos https://review.openstack.org/650465 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add decorator to skip validations for EM and EOL https://review.openstack.org/650466 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Tag stable/ocata as extended maintenance https://review.openstack.org/650467 | 11:46 |
| smcginnis | Grr | 11:46 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Thoughts on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650462/ ? | 11:47 |
| ttx | looking | 11:57 |
| ttx | smcginnis: I was holding for the doc to come with it as requested by evrardjp | 11:58 |
| smcginnis | ttx: OK, so you think we should add a section to the documentation for that? | 11:59 |
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| ttx | https://releases.openstack.org/reference/using.html#using-new-release-command already lists the other types | 12:00 |
| ttx | or do you think this is niche usage that should not appear in user doc? | 12:01 |
| ttx | I mean, i could buy that | 12:01 |
| smcginnis | We've excluded procedural and eol from there. I didn't think we wanted to expose those in the docs, but I can get them all added if we want. | 12:01 |
| ttx | no you're right | 12:02 |
| ttx | using is directed to !releaseteam | 12:02 |
| smcginnis | Personally, I would feel more comfortable only including what is currently there to avoid end user confusion. | 12:02 |
| ttx | ++ | 12:03 |
| ttx | +2a | 12:03 |
| ttx | We can debate the doc addition if anyone cares enough to propose it as a followup patch | 12:03 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 12:03 |
| smcginnis | Thanks. I knew I shouldn't have had those all in a stack, but it was easier that way. Will make it a little better to update things if we get a few of them merged. | 12:04 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Speaking of which, lost your +W on a rebase: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650463/3 | 12:05 |
| smcginnis | And https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650464/3 | 12:05 |
| ttx | reapplying | 12:06 |
| smcginnis | Thanks | 12:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add 'em' tagging to new-release command https://review.openstack.org/650462 | 12:14 |
| ttx | hmm | 12:16 |
| ttx | so we had a release job fail, apparently on transient dns issue? | 12:17 |
| ttx | ssh://release@review.openstack.org:29418/openstack/kolla.git did not work. Description: ssh: Could not resolve hostname review.openstack.org: Temporary failure in name resolution | 12:17 |
| ttx | hmm no that was retried | 12:18 |
| ttx | ok so the openstack/kolla 5.0.5 tag failed | 12:20 |
| ttx | (that's for pike) | 12:20 |
| ttx | (due to that temporary dns fail) | 12:22 |
| ttx | maybe fungi can reenqueue that ref in the release-post pipeline | 12:22 |
| ttx | http://logs.openstack.org/58/589220327957c8c1e630d0ddef8aab5d9e3978dc/release-post/tag-releases/a0a01da/ara-report/ | 12:22 |
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| ttx | the other two tags worked, but they should be ignored | 12:23 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: what about release team onboarding? I mean hiding feature in docs is not a good idea | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Handle deliverables with legacy teams https://review.openstack.org/650463 | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add script to transition entire series to EM or EOL https://review.openstack.org/650464 | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Handle validation of retired repos https://review.openstack.org/650465 | 12:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add decorator to skip validations for EM and EOL https://review.openstack.org/650466 | 12:24 |
| ttx | evrardjp: it should definitely be listed in the em process doc | 12:24 |
| evrardjp | "we do have those extra things hidden" will prevent people from trying those :) | 12:24 |
| evrardjp | ttx: that works for me | 12:24 |
| ttx | but I'm not sure where that lives tbh | 12:24 |
| evrardjp | currently many things are intertwined | 12:25 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, process.rst would be a good place to have the example commands for their specific uses. | 12:25 |
| evrardjp | I didn't spend time in my whole "I need to get a full grasp of things by emptying my brain" yet | 12:25 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Thanks, I was just about to look at the job failure. Agree we can wait to see if fungi and can run it. | 12:26 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: correct, I would put all the cli calls there. | 12:26 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: That retirement of the one openstack-ansible repo may be an issue. | 12:27 |
| smcginnis | I need to check if I ended up skipping it or not, but we did have a check that all repos were included to make sure none were missed. | 12:27 |
| evrardjp | would it still be? | 12:27 |
| evrardjp | I think that was over nowadays | 12:27 |
| smcginnis | Since there are all the other repos in there, we might need to work around that to get the rest of them tagged. | 12:27 |
| smcginnis | Let me check. I remember running into that when I first started looking at these. | 12:28 |
| evrardjp | alternatively, wouldn't removing this help: https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/898539d8fe43418aeb252b5675bab87da5101898/deliverables/ocata/openstack-ansible.yaml#L2262 ? | 12:29 |
| smcginnis | Maybe? | 12:29 |
| evrardjp | as the new-release cli would not propose this openstack-ansible-security, and we would bypass it. | 12:29 |
| smcginnis | I'll check it out. | 12:29 |
| evrardjp | depends on the testing, but I think that is solved nowadays | 12:29 |
| evrardjp | (Love playing with these kind of things, see what breaks :) ) | 12:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Tag ocata-em for openstack-ansible repos https://review.openstack.org/651778 | 12:54 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Kind of had to work around a bit. ^ | 12:54 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: if you do it, I am fine. It's been ages I thought of doing that, but I thought it was bad :) | 12:55 |
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| evrardjp | I must say I love that change :D | 12:56 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/releases master: Release kolla-ansible stable branches https://review.openstack.org/650412 | 14:05 |
| fungi | looking at the kolla point release failure now | 14:06 |
| smcginnis | Hopefully just a simple reenqueue. | 14:08 |
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| fungi | the jobs for release changes in the release-post pipeline are idempotent? | 14:13 |
| fungi | such that if i reenqueue 589220327957c8c1e630d0ddef8aab5d9e3978dc in release-post it'll do what we want? | 14:13 |
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| smcginnis | fungi: I believe so. Looks like that should be safe to rerun. | 14:14 |
| fungi | also, the master branch has moved on since that commit... is rerunning jobs for an older commit than the branch tip going to cause any trouble? | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, I think it will rerun docs publishing from that point, so if there have been newer doc changes they might be lost. But will get republished on the next commit. | 14:15 |
| fungi | okay, i've reenqueued it with `sudo zuul enqueue-ref --tenant=openstack --trigger=gerrit --pipeline=release-post --project=openstack/releases --ref=refs/heads/master --newrev=589220327957c8c1e630d0ddef8aab5d9e3978dc` | 14:16 |
| fungi | and yeah, the only other job looks like publish-tox-docs-static which i guess is the releases.openstack.org site build | 14:17 |
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| fungi | the tag-releases job seems to have succeeded | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | Woohoo, thanks again fungi. | 14:29 |
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| fungi | no sweat. it's all in a day's keystrokes | 14:31 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:31 |
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| dhellmann | are we meeting nowish or did we already change the meeting time? | 15:59 |
| smcginnis | Changes next week I think. | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | I plan to start now. | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 11 16:00:13 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: smcginnis ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp fungi armstrong | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 16:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 16:00 |
| fungi | aloha | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #topic Release Postmortem | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Postmortem (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:01 | |
| dhellmann | o/ | 16:01 |
| ttx | Any objection to approving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650173 now? | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | I think overall the final release went well. A few items yet to wrap up. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp had a comment on there. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | These were supposed to have happened with the final cwi release, so I don't think we need to wait for any PTLs on that. | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | it's fine | 16:02 |
| ttx | ++ | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | yeah we don't need to wait | 16:02 |
| ttx | smcginnis: you do it or should i? | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | I am not sure why I am always careful in those branching cases :) | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: Feel free to take care of that. | 16:02 |
| ttx | done | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: It's good to be careful earlier on. Really a pain if your repo gets branched and suddenly you realize you need to backport a bunch of things in a time crunch. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | At this point though... | 16:03 |
| ttx | next up is two release page cleanups | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | I can approve those. Unless dhellmann wanted a chance to look? | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/651551/ | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/651549/ | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | OK, I'll approve. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Want to talk about Post-release tasks? | 16:05 |
| ttx | sure | 16:05 |
| ttx | there were a couple lines above though | 16:06 |
| ttx | Are we all done ? | 16:06 |
| ttx | Anything missing in the process ? | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Oh, stable/stein releases. Sorry, I skipped that. We can circle back. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I do think we are ready to init-series for train. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I can grab that unless anyone else wants it. | 16:07 |
| ttx | yeah... | 16:07 |
| ttx | Once the stable branch process | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Yeah | 16:07 |
| ttx | I mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650173/ is in | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | I would prefer if you could do it smcginnis , as I am on holiday tomorrow and next week | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | was the tripleo team ready for branches yet? | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: ack | 16:08 |
| ttx | dhellmann: those were cwi ones | 16:08 |
| dhellmann | ok | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | We haven't done any cycle-trailing ones yet. Well, "we" haven't. I think one or two have been done by those teams. | 16:08 |
| ttx | maybe was oversight though. We'll soon know | 16:08 |
| ttx | So yes, init-series once the stable branches are all in | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | OK, back to the stable/stein releases? | 16:10 |
| ttx | then we have a few stalled requests | 16:10 |
| ttx | python-searchlightclient 1.5.1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/649487/ | 16:10 |
| ttx | python-cloudkittyclient 2.1.1 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650239/ | 16:10 |
| ttx | that we can now unblock. Could also wait for Monday | 16:10 |
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| ttx | but I see no reason why | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | I think it would be fine to do it nowadays? | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Neither assert stable:follows-policy | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'm in favor of going ahead, assuming the releases look right | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Since they were caught in the end of cycle freeze, migh be good to get them out right away. | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | ofc | 16:11 |
| ttx | ++ | 16:11 |
| ttx | I can push it | 16:11 |
| ttx | done | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | OK, on to ocata EM. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | I broke out the openstack-ansible ones from the main patch. Since they always have to be so difficult. :P | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | ha! | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650467/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/651778/ | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | We switched to EM about a year ago. But the docs said we would tag them but we never did that part. | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | did we tag one final release on all of those before the em? or are we assuming that whatever was there is good enough? | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I think we had declared them EM, just never tagged them. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | IIRC, it was on the ML. | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | what I mean is, are we tagging at a point that means we have unreleased changes in any of those branches? | 16:13 |
| ttx | yes that is the big question | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | I did not check, but we had already said we would not be doing any more releases at this point. So if there are, I would consider those commits as part of that extended maintenance work. | 16:14 |
| ttx | that makes sense | 16:15 |
| ttx | it's not lost. It's just EM | 16:15 |
| dhellmann | ok | 16:15 |
| dhellmann | just thinking through what we discussed the other day on the review for changes to the tool that adds the tags | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | it's kinda weird for OSA though, because we are tagging really old things. | 16:15 |
| evrardjp | I have to think about that | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: That was updated to tag -eol at the latest commit and not that last tag's commit. | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we also discussed the em tagging policy in there | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Yeah, all of these are really old at this point. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Since we can't release once we are in em, I think the em tag needs to be at the final release. | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | the osa case is definitely unique. I wonder if we need an em policy setting, like we have for branching, to tell us the type of location allowed | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add missing stable/stein branches https://review.openstack.org/650173 | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Clean up failed releases https://review.openstack.org/651549 | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | or at least whether to use HEAD or $last-tag | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Do not generate tarball links for tripleo-ui https://review.openstack.org/651551 | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | Anything after that point is unreleasable. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | If we tag em a few commits after the last release, those commits are kind of in a limbo. | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | I agree, mostly, that em should tag the latest release. I'm not sure we want to tag ancient releases, though. | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | osa is very weird because also we stopped tagging because the people stopped caring. But sending and EM to these old versions send a wrong message IMO | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | right | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | while the openstack-ansible repo one is correct | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | I will request a release tomorrow latest for just this branch, if it's fine with everyone | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | so that we can use those new shas for em | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | at some point osa won't even have tags on some of those repos, so we need to think about how to handle that case | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | sorry for being late | 16:18 |
| ttx | smcginnis: you were right about them being difficult :P | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | ttx: :D | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | So I would abandon the osa one I have, then you would propose one just for the single repo evrardjp? | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: correct | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | ttx: ;) | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | OK, that works for me. | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | I think we want to tag all the osa repos. The main one should be tagged at its most recent release. The others should be tagged at their HEAD. | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | I would still think their last tag, not HEAD. | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | dhellmann: correct | 16:20 |
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| dhellmann | when stein (or train) goes EM, those OSA repos won't have any version tags at all but we still want to tag them EM | 16:20 |
| dhellmann | because we're no longer tagging versions in some of those repos | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | that's my plan, create a late release with HEAD on those repos, and then use those for EM | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | If a repo doesn't have tags, then I don't think it needs -em. | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: but they had tags :) | 16:20 |
| dhellmann | hmm | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | In the case of ocata, it doesn't seem right to tag a point -em if it hasn't been "released". | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | I guess I thought we wanted to mark everything at once, but if we don't care about marking tagless repos then mayb enot | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | it has been released, though | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | Once we get to the point where there were no releases done at all, I don't think we need an em tag. | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | the fact that there's no tag doesn't mean it isn't released in this case | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | it is effectively "vendored" in that main repo | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | because that includes the SHA of the commit from each of the other repos to use | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | yeah, so what we could do is to just EM the openstack-ansible repo | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | yeah, ok | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | that would be enough too | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | because it doesn't set a wrong expectations in the roles | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release python-searchlight client 1.5.1 for stein https://review.openstack.org/649487 | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | (other repos) | 16:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Releasing python-cloudkittyclient 2.1.1 https://review.openstack.org/650239 | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | openstack-ansible controls what from those other repos is used, right? | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | correct | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, then I would think we would only tag openstack-ansible. | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | and we are not using tags. | 16:22 |
| dhellmann | what is the point of adding the em tags at all? it's to communicate that the *repo* is closed to certain types of changes and to releases, right? | 16:23 |
| ttx | yes | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | so this is why I think the em tags still apply in this case dhellmann | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | so if we don't tag all of the repos, we're not sending the message about being closed to certain types of changes in those repos | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | so two choices: either just do openstack/openstack-ansible as EM and ignore the rest, or do everything on all repos. | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | or to the testing requirements, or whatever else we're changing for that repo when we go to em | 16:24 |
| dhellmann | I think we should tag them all, but I don't feel strongly enough about it to fix the tool to let us do that, so :-) | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | I believe it's semantically more correct to do what dhellmann said and propose earlier | 16:24 |
| evrardjp | dhellmann: but can't I propose a last minute release before we do EM? | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | So if release-model:untagged, the tool should grab HEAD. Otherwise, use the commit from the last release. Does that make sense? | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | that only helps if you tag all of the repos. which I guess would be another approach | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : yeah, that's effectively what I'm saying | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Not for ocata. It is already in em. | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: I see, I missed the timeframe | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | We just never followed through with the tagging. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | Pike on the other hand... | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | That was supposed to have transitioned at the beginning of March, but we have a little time yet. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: OK, I'll put it on my todo to update the new-release tool to handle that for the future. | 16:26 |
| dhellmann | k | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | I think that's fair | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | So I will abandon my osa tagging patch for now. evrardjp will follow up with the "correct" tagging for those repos. | 16:27 |
| evrardjp | I am sorry to say that ttx prophecy was correct | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | hehe | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | OK, one more monkey wrench. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | openstack-ansible ocata was not tagless. Still allow it? | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | allow? | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | If we tag HEAD for tagless and last release otherwise, at least as of the state during ocata, what I have up there now is "correct". | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | But knowing those eventually ended up tagless, we could retroactively apply that to ocata. | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | if all the repos were always tagged for ocata, we should use the tags. but iirc, that was when we did this transition? so in that case I think we want to recon it | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | er, retcon | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | I am not sure when we did this, it was in the MLs. At that time we said we couldn't touch the deliverables files though | 16:31 |
| evrardjp | so we couldn't remove all the repos from those older branches | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | The solution was, for the future, create a tagless file for the future | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | OK, let's just stick with that last plan. I've abandoned mine. evrardjp can propose a new one treating those other repos as tagless. | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | but because we didn't touch the old deliverables files, we just said to "just not tag there" | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | I don't like us to be _special_ | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | looking at that deliverable file, I see all the repos being tagged up to 15.1.21, and then only openstack/openstack-ansible being tagged after that | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | And now we have validation that complains if you try to do a release and don't include all repos. But that should be fine if you tag HEAD for the ones not released. Just takes a little manual editing. | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | so it's probably in that two week window dhellmann | 16:34 |
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| dhellmann | yeah | 16:34 |
| ttx | openstack-ansible is ... special, Mrs. Gump. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | :D | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | ttx: :) | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | Run ttx , run | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Are any of the other deliverables in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650467/ as "special" as osa? :) | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | https://media.giphy.com/media/3oriNLnYCrAj1Rg7qE/giphy.gif | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | I think osa is the only snowflake for this case | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | So then we should be able to finish that tagging for the rest of those. | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | +1 | 16:36 |
| evrardjp | agreed | 16:36 |
| ttx | ++ | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | I'll leave it up to y'all to +2+W that then. ;) | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | I've +2ed that on faith, smcginnis :-) | 16:36 |
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| smcginnis | hah | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | #topic Preparing for train | 16:37 |
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| smcginnis | I did ping Tony yesterday about the script we use for setting up the tracking etherpad. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | He has that on his todo list to get set up. Checking this morning, looks like it didn't make it to the top of his todo's yet. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | When we moved to storyboard for tracking things, we stopped doing the planning etherpad. I did not do one for stein. | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | I think that has worked out. | 16:39 |
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| dhellmann | do we have a ptg planning etherpad? | 16:39 |
| dhellmann | or "agenda" or whatever? | 16:39 |
| ttx | We don;t have that yet | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | I know Tony has mentioned it, but I have not seen one. | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | ok | 16:40 |
| ttx | But we have a bunch of topics | 16:40 |
| diablo_rojo | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Train/Etherpads <-- according to that not yet | 16:40 |
| dhellmann | I know we have some things at the bottom of the stein tracking page | 16:40 |
| ttx | at the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking | 16:40 |
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| ttx | (personally I find it good that we don;t have that many things to discuss, means the process is now more solid | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | I'll throw https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-train-ptg in that wiki list and we can start putting some thing there. | 16:41 |
| dhellmann | ttx: +1 - less change is good here | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | I would say let's wait for PTLs/release liaisons feedbacks? | 16:41 |
| ttx | copy pasted | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | Added to wiki | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | team team team! | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo | technically cut pasted ;) | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | #topic PTG org | 16:43 |
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| smcginnis | Notes from Tony in the etherpad. | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | Friday morning as a meetup time. | 16:43 |
| diablo_rojo | +2 for Friday morning | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | I think that works for me. | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | I've been mentally blocking actually thinking about my schedule for the week. | 16:44 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, lol yeah I bit the bullet and did it a couple days ago | 16:44 |
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| diablo_rojo | its quite painful | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | ttx, dhellmann: Do you know if Friday morning will work for your schedules? | 16:44 |
| dhellmann | I think so | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | OK, if anyone has a conflict, I guess let Tony know ASAP. | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | oh, the ptg stuff isn't on my calendar yet. does someone have the link to the schedule handy? | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | The team photo is also scheduled for Friday morning. | 16:45 |
| dhellmann | I expect to be spending most of my time with ironic | 16:45 |
| diablo_rojo | dhellmann, https://www.openstack.org/ptg#tab_schedule | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | thanks | 16:46 |
| diablo_rojo | no problem :) | 16:46 |
| ttx | OK reorganized topics in a way that makes sense | 16:46 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I should be available friday morning | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | Pretty much all teams are meeting Friday. I don't think it's possible not to have conflicts in the 3 days of this event. | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | Last thing in there, Tony was asking about a team dinner. | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | I would love it if we can all make it out to a dinner again. | 16:47 |
| ttx | could make for a calm dinner for Friday evening | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | I think the only set evening plan I have so far is Monday night. | 16:48 |
| diablo_rojo | Thursday is the happy hour so we could go to dinner after that, | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | Friday night should be good for me. | 16:48 |
| diablo_rojo | ttx, Friday night is when the game night was gonna maybe be | 16:48 |
| ttx | OOOOH | 16:48 |
| ttx | then no | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | yeah, small group calm friday or sat after such a long week would be good | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | I leave Saturday evening, so that's the only PTG night that will not work. | 16:48 |
| dhellmann | ah | 16:48 |
| diablo_rojo | Saturday works for me | 16:48 |
| diablo_rojo | Wednesday night? | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | Thursday night might be a good way to prep for Friday morning. | 16:49 |
| dhellmann | my dance card is completely empty at this point, so whenever | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | How about this, each of us add a line under that item in the etherpad with the nights we are available? Then tonyb can figure something out. | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 16:50 |
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| diablo_rojo | +2 | 16:50 |
| smcginnis | #topic Meeting time | 16:51 |
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| ttx | It changes ! | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | Last thing - I think it is official now. Meeting time will be moving to 1900. | 16:51 |
| dhellmann | there was a review to change that, right? | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | Probably about as good as we can get for all the timezones involved. | 16:52 |
| ttx | yes merged now | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/651443/ | 16:52 |
| ttx | some diligent meetings-core person | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:52 |
| ttx | btw... | 16:53 |
| ttx | if someone else wants to be meetings-core, we recruit | 16:53 |
| evrardjp | haha | 16:53 |
| smcginnis | I would imagine that's pretty low volume. | 16:53 |
| smcginnis | I can try to watch for things there if you want to add me to the list. | 16:53 |
| ttx | It is so awesome you would not believe | 16:53 |
| smcginnis | :D | 16:53 |
| evrardjp | ttx: :) | 16:53 |
| evrardjp | I am wondering what the duties are, with a name like this | 16:54 |
| diablo_rojo | ttx, if you want another set of hands you can add me to the list too | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | meetings-core must attend every meeting though. :) | 16:54 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: isn't that what you are already doing? | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | You don't actually work on any projects, you just attend all of their meetings. | 16:54 |
| ttx | well to be fair, I just process them all when they arrive. Could switch to some recview day set up though | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | ttx: There's check validation that makes sure a propose meeting move doesn't conflict with another meeting ,right? | 16:55 |
| dhellmann | ttx: bot approval? | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | let's discuss this outside the meeting? | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | Yeah | 16:55 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we still check things. | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open floor | 16:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open floor (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:55 | |
| smcginnis | Any final things? | 16:55 |
| evrardjp | none | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | This will be my last meeting. tonyb will take if from here. | 16:55 |
| ttx | dhellmann: Like if the PTL is the person asking for it, if there was a thread about it, etc | 16:55 |
| dhellmann | ack | 16:55 |
| dhellmann | thank you, smcginnis , for taking the helm again this past cycle! | 16:56 |
| dhellmann | things went quite smoothly, I think | 16:56 |
| diablo_rojo | thanks smcginnis for all your hard work :) | 16:56 |
| smcginnis | Thank you all for all the work this cycle and all the work prior to that that made it easy to step in and figure things out. | 16:56 |
| ttx | I wonder what he will now do with all his free time. Apart from meetings-core | 16:56 |
| smcginnis | haha | 16:56 |
| ttx | and fearless Board member | 16:57 |
| smcginnis | OK, I guess we can wrap things up then. Thank you everyone! | 16:57 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 11 16:57:15 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-04-11-16.00.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-04-11-16.00.txt | 16:57 |
| ttx | Thanks smcginnis | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-04-11-16.00.log.html | 16:57 |
| fungi | thanks! | 16:58 |
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| diablo_rojo | Photo is at 10:00 | 17:06 |
| diablo_rojo | for reference I added the sign up ethercalc to the stein eitherpad | 17:06 |
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| EmilienM | smcginnis: | 17:11 |
| EmilienM | hi | 17:11 |
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| EmilienM | why did you folks approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/650173/ without consulting tripleo folks | 17:11 |
| EmilienM | it's probably missing commits from master for os-net-config | 17:12 |
| EmilienM | ttx: ^ | 17:13 |
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| EmilienM | same for paunch and tripleo-validations :-/ | 17:25 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: I need branch removal for tripleo projects, this patch isn't good for us | 17:25 |
| EmilienM | we are still working on critical bugs for stein | 17:26 |
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| fungi | i wonder if those deliverables should be switched to cycle-trailing | 17:44 |
| fungi | if they're not actually expected to be ready when the rest of the normal cycle deliverables release | 17:45 |
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| smcginnis | EmilienM: Are those deliverables mis-labelled? | 18:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/releases master: Release cinderlib 0.9.0 and cut stein https://review.openstack.org/651895 | 18:02 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: Deadline for cycle-with-intermediary is way past and those were overdue for branching. | 18:02 |
| EmilienM | I'm lost with these labels, tbh | 18:03 |
| EmilienM | and i don't understand why we keep changing them every cycle | 18:03 |
| EmilienM | to me, tripleo is trailing cycle and always behind regular projects, and lag in release | 18:03 |
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| smcginnis | EmilienM: Well, either something is cycle-trailing and it doesn't get released and branched until after the cycle is over, or it's not and the final release yesterday should have been *after* last release and branching. | 18:04 |
| smcginnis | The ones that were branched were not cycle-trailing. | 18:04 |
| EmilienM | right and I don't understand why | 18:04 |
| smcginnis | What part? | 18:05 |
| EmilienM | why they aren't cycle trailing | 18:05 |
| EmilienM | we really need to remove the branches for those | 18:05 |
| EmilienM | we're missing a bunch of bug fixes | 18:05 |
| smcginnis | Because the team didn't mark them as such. | 18:05 |
| EmilienM | and I don't want to backport 20 patches | 18:05 |
| EmilienM | fair enough, it's a issue on our side | 18:06 |
| EmilienM | but I wish I would have been in the loop for this patch | 18:06 |
| smcginnis | fungi: If we merge a patch to change those things to cycle-trailing and remove the branching, can you manually delete the branches? | 18:06 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: Well, we can't second guess teams every cycle whether they've declared their release models the way they want or not. | 18:07 |
| fungi | sure, as long as there are no open changes on them | 18:07 |
| EmilienM | ok so I need to close them all | 18:07 |
| EmilienM | doing it now | 18:07 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: You're going to propose the patch mentioned above? ^ | 18:08 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: yes, I'll take care of a partial revert and changing the cycle mode | 18:08 |
| clarkb | if you've already done backports why undo all of that? | 18:09 |
| EmilienM | they aren't merged | 18:09 |
| smcginnis | OK, I'll watch for that patch. | 18:09 |
| fungi | but yeah, gerrit won't allow deletion of a branch with open changes | 18:09 |
| EmilienM | fungi: right | 18:09 |
| EmilienM | sorry for the mess ... | 18:09 |
| fungi | and i'll need a list of the repositories for which we need stable/stein branches deleted | 18:10 |
| smcginnis | I'll add you to the patch updating that. | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO: change release-model for some repos https://review.openstack.org/651898 | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Partial revert "Add missing stable/stein branches" https://review.openstack.org/651899 | 18:17 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: ^ | 18:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Partial revert "Add missing stable/stein branches" https://review.openstack.org/651899 | 18:17 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: I'll follow up next week with RC1 and branch probably | 18:17 |
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| smcginnis | OK, sounds good. I'll get these through as soon as they pass. | 18:18 |
| smcginnis | fungi: There are the lists of repos. ^ | 18:18 |
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| fungi | perfect, will delete them now | 18:20 |
| smcginnis | EmilienM: I'm going to squash those into one. Otherwise we risk recreating the branches. | 18:21 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Or, do you want to wait for the first one to go through changing the model? | 18:21 |
| EmilienM | ok | 18:21 |
| fungi | smcginnis: i can pause | 18:22 |
| fungi | still in the process of getting them pulled up in gerrit anyway | 18:22 |
| smcginnis | OK, I'll push through the first one that still contains the branches. Then give you the green light to delete, then merge the patch that removes them from the deliverables. | 18:23 |
| fungi | perfect | 18:24 |
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| smcginnis | EmilienM: Do you recall why you switched the release model for those here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/561655/ | 18:32 |
| EmilienM | smcginnis: I think we were in a bar and gin tonic was involved | 18:34 |
| smcginnis | Hah. Guess that wouldn't be the first time if so. :) | 18:34 |
| EmilienM | LOL | 18:34 |
| EmilienM | TBH I don't remember :-/ | 18:34 |
| fungi | that's my preferred method of introducing bugs ;) | 18:34 |
| EmilienM | and it was probably a mistake on my side | 18:34 |
| EmilienM | the thing is, I don't want to branch to early in tripleo because otherwise we end up sending a lot of backports and wasting CI | 18:35 |
| smcginnis | They did release and branch by the c-w-i deadline in rocky. | 18:35 |
| fungi | okay, i've got all the deletions queued up so ready to go once you give the word | 18:35 |
| smcginnis | Great. First change is in the gate queue now. | 18:36 |
| smcginnis | As soon as the makes it all the way through, I'll wait for confirmation on deletion and push through the second one. | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: TripleO: change release-model for some repos https://review.openstack.org/651898 | 18:46 |
| fungi | smcginnis: so, safe to go ahead now? | 18:50 |
| fungi | 651898 merged 4 minutes ago | 18:50 |
| smcginnis | It's running the tag-releases job right now. Should probably wait for that to complete to be safe. | 18:50 |
| fungi | ahh, okay will do | 18:50 |
| smcginnis | fungi: OK, looks like it's wrapping up now. You are clear for takeoff. | 18:55 |
| fungi | starting now | 18:55 |
| fungi | and done | 18:56 |
| smcginnis | And next patch on its way. Thanks! | 18:57 |
| fungi | EmilienM: please double-check that the expected 8 stable/stein branch deletions are showing up for you | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Partial revert "Add missing stable/stein branches" https://review.openstack.org/651899 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: new-release: Handle em for untagged repos https://review.openstack.org/651909 | 19:10 |
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| smcginnis | tag-releases completed for the branch removal tag. Spot check of repos looks good. | 19:20 |
| fungi | smcginnis: EmilienM: one thing i noticed in handling these branch deletions... openstack/tripleo-ipsec never got a stable/rocky branch either, its only branches are master and stable/queens | 19:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train deliverable files https://review.openstack.org/651916 | 19:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carlos Goncalves proposed openstack/releases master: Release Octavia Queens 2.1.0 and Rocky 3.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/651475 | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brian Rosmaita proposed openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 1.15.9 https://review.openstack.org/651936 | 22:25 |
| EmilienM | fungi: weird cc mwhahaha | 22:29 |
| EmilienM | I guess we just package it from latest tag or something | 22:29 |
| mwhahaha | probably got missed for that release | 22:29 |
| mwhahaha | clearly we don't backport much to it | 22:30 |
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