Thursday, 2019-05-09

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ttxAre we having a meeting this week? I can be around, but I think tonyb is traveling10:08
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smcginnisttx: I think it was decided yesterday to skip.11:06
smcginnisOh wait, that was the TC. Not sure.11:06
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ttxsmcginnis: are we clear to approve releases, or was there any remaining issue?11:24
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smcginnisttx: I believe we are fine. I approved one or two over the last couple of days.12:56
smcginnisThere are a lot of stable releases queued up that would be very good to get through.12:56
smcginnisI know a few have folks waiting for them.12:56
ttxOK, will do a pass13:00
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openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/releases master: Release cinderclient 4.0.2
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tonybttx: I was planning on having a meeting today.13:47
ttxStill in the US?13:48
tonybttx: I am traveling but I'm in the US in one of our offices so still mostly functional ;P13:48
ttx(Noticed your usage of "today"13:48
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* tonyb got to a reasonable pause spot with work so I can spend a lot of today clearing my backlog13:49
ttxtonyb: re: stable I wouldn't mind your review of before approving -- especially 3cadefbbc123e7f793b3b7f666e6107d75425cba13:53
ttxbit of a corner case13:54
tonybttx: checking13:55
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tonybRemove auth_uri usage ?13:56
tonybIt looks okay to me, it's just a docs change to give the desired config examples13:57
ttxok, feel free to +2a or I'll pick it up in next round13:58
tonybI s'pose it could be a bit of a shock to deployers that things chnaged like that in a minor/ptach bump and could easily be missed13:58
tonybunless you think I missed something?13:59
ttxno no I was just wondering if that was still acceptable in current policy13:59
* ttx needs to run, be back in an hour13:59
smcginnisIt shouldn't break any existing configs, so should be safe.14:00
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-monascaclient 1.15.0
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-ironicclient 2.6.2 and 2.7.1
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 2.5.7
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-manilaclient 1.21.2 off of stable/queens
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release os-brick 2.3.7
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release cinder 13.0.5
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release cinder 12.0.7
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/releases master: Nova-specific schedule items for Train
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openstackgerritEric Fried proposed openstack/releases master: Nova-specific schedule items for Train
efriedbnemec:  done16:07
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tonyb#startmeeting releaseteam19:00
openstackMeeting started Thu May  9 19:00:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)"19:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'19:00
tonybsmcginnis, ttx, evrardjp, armstong: ping19:00
tonyboh and of course dhellmann .....19:00
tonybSo I'll be up front, I'm not ready for this meeting I don't have the communicatiosn planned19:02
tonybbut I think it's still worth looking at the queue and the tasks from the PTG19:02
ttxI lined up a couple topics19:02
tonybttx: I see that thanks :)19:02
ttxalso did a pass at organizing the stories on our PTg doc for easier consumption19:03
tonybSo: Any remaining release issues19:03
ttxI did approve a bunch today and it worked19:03
ttxjust wanted to make sure there was nothing left on everybody's minds19:03
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tonybWe need to decide what to do with the remaining pike-em changes19:04
ttxok adding to agenda19:04
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ttxSo on first topic: no standing issue ?19:05
tonybttx: none that I'm aware of, others?19:06
ttxAssuming that is a no19:06
smcginnisNothing that I've seen.19:06
ttxand you can move to next topic :)19:06
tonyb#topic pike-em19:07
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smcginnisLast time I took a pass through, they all had issues to resolve or were waiting on updates from the teams.19:07
tonybsmcginnis: Yup, at this point I wonder if we shoudln't just cut our losses and tage pike-em with what's there19:08
ttx looks approvable19:08
tonybthere are a few (like glance) that don't have a -1 so we could just merge them19:08
tonybttx: snap ;P19:09
ttxAre the others blocked on a class of issues, or are they all subtle19:09
diablo_rojoI can try to go ping some of those PTLs/release liaisons by next meeting if we want to try that?19:10
smcginnisHeat could probably go ahead since there was no response to my question after a couple weeks.19:10
tonybdiablo_rojo: That'd be good if you have time19:10
ttxsome have issues that are not in the repo19:10
tonybso we can clear glance amd heat but that leaves a bunch19:10
diablo_rojoI imagine a lot of things got lost with the summit last week19:11
ttxThere aren't so many that pass tests and are waiting on PTL action19:11
diablo_rojoHappy to go remind people about these and tell them what the plan is if we dont see action by next week19:11
tonyband to answer ttx's question I don't think things are subtle but they do need approvales from the teams19:11
ttxI bet they don't jump on reviews that have Check-119:11
tonybthere are several that wont merge because of readme issues19:11
ttxAgree that for those, some gentle reminder would help19:12
diablo_rojoIf there are people in particular I can ping them instead of going after all of them if you all have a list.19:12
tonybttx: true19:12
ttxjust that you can't blindly gpo and ping everyone... rapier, not scattergun19:12
ttxso it's a bit time-intensive19:12
ttxtonyb: How about listing them all on an etherpad19:13
ttxwith what blocks them19:13
smcginnisHonestly, we had a published date for the transition, so I'm leaning on just tagging last release and being done with it.19:13
ttxBecause otherwise we all have to interpret the signs19:13
ttxwhich duplicates a lot of work19:13
smcginnisIf they weren't tracking the need to release things, then I think they were already in "extended maintenance" mode.19:13
smcginnisOr unmaintained.19:13
ttxSome are waiting on PTLs, other are waiting on patch refresh, others etc19:13
tonybttx:Sure I'll add that as tasks for this week, with an aim to moving them forward/pinging befoer the next meeting19:14
ttxsmcginnis: isn't that what we are doing here ?19:14
smcginnisNo, we're doing a final release for them, then tagging.19:14
ttxah hm19:14
tonybttx: We could skip the final realeas and just tag what's already there19:14
smcginnisI'm saying, they missed the deadline for a final release and should now be in EM.19:15
ttxsmcginnis: half the requests are just pike-em requests and they still fail tests19:15
smcginnisMost of those are because they are on top of the final release patches.19:15
ttxbut yes, I agree to skip the final release19:15
ttxsmcginnis: got it19:15
ttxSo... maybe a ping on those patches, and then if no action we'll just do pike-em and be done19:16
diablo_rojoThats kind of what I was thinking19:16
tonybokay cool.19:16
diablo_rojoOne last chance since the summit took attention away from this.19:17
smcginnisWe could post to the ML that if we don't have the final releases worked through by the affected teams by next Thursday, we will just go ahead with the -em tag.19:17
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diablo_rojoThat works too19:17
tonybdiablo_rojo: wanna do that?19:17
tonybdiablo_rojo: and tag the teams from19:18
diablo_rojotonyb, sure put me down for that19:18
tonyb#action diablo_rojo to email the list as ask for some attention on ^^ those changes or we'll just tag them next Thursday19:19
diablo_rojoOh jeeze now its all official as an action item19:19
tonyb#topic Prioritize/Allocate tasks from
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ttxOK so I organized that list a bit19:20
ttx(the stories/tasks list at the bottom)19:20
ttxTrain process changes on one side, with milestone to do it before19:21
ttxAnd tools improvements/wishlists on the other site19:21
ttxWe have 3 big things19:21
ttx(on the process changes side)19:21
ttxDo stable autoreleases around milestones, Introduce cycle-automatic for "other" things that should get one release by the end of the cycle19:22
ttxThat's two actually19:22
ttxThe others are smaller (Track release liaisons in deliverable files, cycle-highlights process improvements)19:22
ttxAnd arguably "Add email content to the Process document " is more of a continuous task, assigned to tonyb19:22
ttxdiablo_rojo: I'm assuming you are documenting the cycle-highlights collection changes ?19:23
ttxI can take cycle-automatic, if someone takes stable autoreleases19:24
diablo_rojoI think we did that during the process doc changes?19:24
diablo_rojoat the PTG?19:24
diablo_rojoBut I can double check.19:24
ttxdiablo_rojo: maybe it's done already, please doublecheck that it is enough. Maybe an email to the list to communicate teh change19:24
diablo_rojoCan do19:24
* diablo_rojo adds second email to todo list19:25
tonybI admit I don't have a link to the etherpad where we corrected the process docs19:25
ttxAnyone interested in documenting stable autoreleases around milestones?19:25
ttxtonyb: Sean did submit the diff19:25
tonybAhh there it is my bad19:25
smcginnisOh, that etherpad. Sorry, yeah, that's all squared away.19:26
smcginnisI think I heard evrardjp volunteer for the autoreleases. :)19:26
tonybthere it is19:26
* tonyb will review that befoer I leave the office19:27
ttxand anyone interested in documenting liaisons in deliverable files ?19:27
ttx(that should be an easy one)19:27
diablo_rojoI could probably do that too19:27
diablo_rojoif noone else wants it19:27
ttxWe can also wait until the next meeting19:27
ttxsince we are missing people19:28
dhellmanntonyb: is where we worked on the process doc19:28
tonybdhellmann: Thanks, it was linnked in the PTG etherpad I just missed it19:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: [glance] final releases for pike
ttxLooking at the improvements section -- is that all wishlist, or is there any tool in there that has priority19:28
tonybdhellmann: and smcginnis has already published the change which is good19:28
dhellmannaha, yeah19:28
ttxFeel free to move things between sections19:30
tonybttx: are you on!/board/64 ?19:30
ttxI'm on
ttxThat board is a bit outdated19:31
tonybttx: okay19:31
ttxBottom of
dhellmannyeah, we never fully adopted storyboard for tracking19:31
ttxOnce assigned people can create the SB stories and we can populate a new board19:31
tonybwe shoudl fix that19:31
dhellmannwith just a few of us, the etherpad was more than sufficient19:32
smcginnisI think we got *most* things moved from tracking etherpads to SB, but just need to keep up with it.19:32
ttxIs there anything in the "Should do" section that you'd move to more or less priority19:32
dhellmannit probably needs pruning, but sure19:32
tonybI kinda feel like the couple of tools items (L92-L95) could be in Must do as we modified the process assuming they were available19:33
dhellmannttx: those priorities look reasonable to me19:33
dhellmannhmm, yeah, if we have process changes that rely on tool changes, those are musts19:33
tonybYup apart from that I think we're good19:34
tonybJust needs people signed up to do them19:35
ttxMaybe "Add a tool script for producing the list of intermediary deliverables that have not released (see step under "Between Milestone-1 and Milestone-2" for details)" is a must too if it's mentioned in process19:35
tonybttx: Yeah probably19:36
ttxI will take that one if the absent people don't want it19:36
tonybttx: thanks19:37
ttxI ant to give JP a chance to take $stuff :)19:37
ttxI don't think we need to assign Should/can do items19:37
ttxat least not right now19:37
tonybttx: agreeed19:37
ttxok that is all I had on that topiuc19:39
tonybI added another thing .. that we shoudl have done at the PTG19:40
ttxI propose we rediscuss assignments next week if we have other team members show up19:40
tonyb#topic release days review19:40
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ttxah yes19:40
ttxI'm happy keeping the Thursdays19:40
tonybPlease look at the days you're on and let us know if you need to change19:40
tonybttx: great19:40
dhellmannI'm not sure I'm going to be able to commit to a day, but it looks like we have someone to replace me on fridays19:41
dhellmann(we have 2 signed up for monday)19:41
smcginnisThat was to have the stable and "normal" reviews, but I'm fine switching to Friday.19:41
tonybthat was mostly because of stable but I can just take Monday if smcginnis is food with Friday?19:41
ttxThat would be ideal19:41
dhellmannthere haven't been a ton of friday reviews, so you could also leave that floating19:41
dhellmannbut yeah19:42
ttxThat makes for early Monday and late Friday which is excellent for coverage19:42
dhellmannlike we planned it19:42
smcginnisThe lack of sun is following me. Cold and gray here like most of the time in Denver. :)19:43
tonybI'll get an etherpad for this weeks communication done today and drop it here for review before I send it tomorrow19:43
tonybsmcginnis: clear blue skies in MA at the moment ;P19:44
tonybjust say'n'19:44
* dhellmann enjoyed the cool weather in Denver, since it's already turning tropical here in Georgia19:44
diablo_rojosmcginnis, its been sunny and 70 in seattle all week19:44
smcginnisYeah, yeah, yeah, I need to move.19:44
diablo_rojosmcginnis, yes, you do :)19:44
diablo_rojodhellmann, and tonyb and ttx are of course welcome to move to Seattle too :)19:45
smcginnisBridget wants to move to France, but looks like it's about the same there. At least in Paris. Will have to try further south.19:45
tonybsmcginnis: I suspect ttx may know a thing or two about that19:46
tonybanyway I think we're done19:46
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smcginnisHeh, yeah.19:46
ttxIt's a bit disappointing weather right now19:46
openstackMeeting ended Thu May  9 19:46:43 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)19:46
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tonybWe can banter about relocatiosn and weather outside of the meeting logs ;P19:47
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openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/releases master: [blazar] create pike-em tag against final releases
openstackgerritTony Breeds proposed openstack/releases master: [blazar] create pike-em tag against final releases
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Update cycle process based on PTG review
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: [glance] create pike-em tag against final releases
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: [zaqar] create pike-em tag against final releases
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openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: [mistral] final releases for pike
evrardjpsorry I couldn't attend the meeting21:17
evrardjpI will read all of this21:17
openstackgerritSean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: [Telemetry] create pike-em tag against final releases
evrardjpI still need some catch up21:18
evrardjp(of the summit)21:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Move openstack-dev to openstack namespace
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Oslo Queens releases for 2019-4-22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Nova-specific schedule items for Train
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Propose a new release of rally
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release Horizon Queens 13.0.2
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