Thursday, 2019-06-20

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Set pike status to extended maintenance  https://review.opendev.org/66461108:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Update Liaison Scripts  https://review.opendev.org/66524608:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Oslo releases for 2019-6-19  https://review.opendev.org/66643008:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release puppet-manila for Stein, Rocky and Queens  https://review.opendev.org/66367408:38
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Introduce cycle-automatic release model  https://review.opendev.org/66654611:51
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Switch all tempest plugins to cycle-automatic  https://review.opendev.org/66654711:51
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openstackgerritElod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Modify Queens Extended Maintenance date  https://review.opendev.org/65707212:58
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Do not allow final without RC in cycle-with-rc  https://review.opendev.org/66656212:59
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smcginnistonyb: I have a conflict for today's meeting. I'll try to be around, but will probably be distracted most of the time.13:57
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Fix regression in list-changes  https://review.opendev.org/66658514:01
ttxsmcginnis: would be good to get that one merged before it triggers other false negative test failures ^14:02
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Introduce cycle-automatic release model  https://review.opendev.org/66654614:04
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Switch all tempest plugins to cycle-automatic  https://review.opendev.org/66654714:04
smcginnisttx: Looking...14:14
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ttxbeh15:31
openstackgerritLuigi Toscano proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-saharaclient 2.2.1  https://review.opendev.org/66661215:31
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Fix regression in list-changes  https://review.opendev.org/66658515:53
ttxsmcginnis: one more time ^ -- Nobody expects the Schema Inquisition15:54
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Introduce cycle-automatic release model  https://review.opendev.org/66654615:54
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Switch all tempest plugins to cycle-automatic  https://review.opendev.org/66654715:55
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openstackgerritLuigi Toscano proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-saharaclient 2.2.1  https://review.opendev.org/66661216:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Fix regression in list-changes  https://review.opendev.org/66658516:36
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tonyb#startmeeting releaseteam19:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 20 19:00:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'19:00
tonybdiablo_rojo, armstrong, evrardjp, ttx, smcginnis dhellmann, fungi: Gentle reminder about the release team meeting19:01
ttxo/19:01
* fungi was already reminded, but thanks!19:01
tonyb.... So I was 17secs late :(19:01
tonybbetter than last week though :/19:01
armstrongI/19:02
armstrongo/19:02
armstrongHi @tonyb19:02
tonybfungi: I figured your higlight would happen19:02
tonybhey armstrong19:03
fungii get highlights just from you thinking about my existence, tonyb19:03
tonybfungi: oooooh is that how it works ?19:04
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smcginniso/19:04
tonybsmcginnis: I wasn't sure if you were going to be here .... starting a new job an all19:04
diablo_rojoo/19:05
smcginnisIn another meeting, but trying to pay attention. ;)19:05
tonybI think we have everyone ... dhellmann is traveling and evrardjp enjoys his evenings19:05
tonybsmcginnis: okay cool19:05
tonybSo we only have one agenda item19:06
tonyb#topic Status of the weekly release email (last sent on R-26)19:06
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tonyband I'm not really sure what to say about this ...19:07
ttxI added it to discuss what is the desired state19:07
ttxDo we want to do weekly updates ? If yes, how can we help in producing them ?19:08
tonybttx: the tldr is Tony values it, and intended to do it but it never quite happens19:08
ttxI feel like we did a bit too many of those in the past, but there are key ones that still need to happen19:09
tonybttx: I don't have an opinion on the too many aspect but I agree we're definately missing them ATM19:09
ttxI was wondering if we should not have a template that would automate 99% of it19:09
fungialso they're mostly canned, right? could be delegated or even rotated?19:10
ttxTaking last cycles as a base19:10
diablo_rojoI don't think they really need to be weekly until like.. somewhere between m2 and m319:10
fungioh, and here i just assumed they were already templated ;)19:10
ttxfungi: They are not fully canned -- I resisted that a bit in the past (people tend to ignore canned stuff)19:10
tonybI guess they are kinda templateable19:11
ttxBut then canning does not prevent last minute customization if you want to apply your spice to it19:11
ttxand it would help in quickly sending it if no time19:11
diablo_rojoindeed it does not19:11
tonybthere will always be stuff that needs to be added kinda ad-hoc'ish but I guess we could get most of it ...19:11
ttxtonyb: My suggestion would be to dump all the ones from the previous cycle  in some etherpad, where we can continuously improve them19:12
fungiright, presumably anything derived from the schedule could be added in an automated fashion and then you just work around that for the odd bits19:12
ttxthen when the week comes, you can just pick the current state and hit send19:12
ttxThen we can discuss which ones should be skipped19:13
ttxAnd we can help in updating the message19:13
ttxWe definitely need to have a tactic to apply before R-1319:13
fungii suppose it could be a standing weekly meeting item to go over what would be sent and work out if it's needed that week19:13
tonybWell we *kinda* have that already in that last cycle smcginnis but all the emails into etherpad(s) and I've pulling the ones for the matching weeks as a base19:14
ttxI would place them all in the SAME etherpad, so that we can more easily tell which ones are superfluous and decide to skip them19:14
fungithat smcginnis guy has so many great ideas19:15
ttxIf only he was around19:15
ttxtonyb: if the content is mostlt team-drafted in advance, do you think you can post it regularly ?19:15
tonybokay, I'll do that (pull everything into on etherpad today)19:15
ttxor is the blocker elsewhere?19:16
tonybttx: Yes I can do that19:16
ttxI can do a pass at looking up the content for the coming weeks once it's all in one etherpad19:16
tonybttx: nope the blocker is partially creative and partially time19:16
tonybboth of which would be solved by the current suggestion19:16
ttxI'm pretty sure we can skip a lot between t1 and t219:16
diablo_rojoIf there are weeks you are out/can't send the emails, I suppose I could.19:16
diablo_rojotonyb, ^19:16
tonyblike the week I am AFK in July :)19:17
diablo_rojoHeh yeah sure :)19:17
fungiif the important bits are derived from the schedule and/or some scripted queries, and there's a couple minutes in the meeting to go over that and add/remove anything that's come up, seems like it should be pretty easy for just about anybody to send it out19:18
tonybfungi: Yup I agree19:18
ttxyes, we can do a last-minute revoew of the content19:19
fungieven on weeks when the ptl isn't otherwise indisposed19:19
ttxThe real difference is that there is a base content available for quick send if all else fails19:19
ttxand I think that will help19:19
tonybOkay I;ll do this and drop a link here when it's done19:20
tonybI'll start today and try to have it done by Monday19:20
ttx++19:20
tonybttx: Thanks for brining it up19:21
ttxI was wondering if I missed the memo :)19:21
tonybttx: Nope I'm just flailing a little19:22
diablo_rojottx secretly loves email19:22
tonybI think we're done with that topic? (thanks again)19:23
ttxyes, and I had nothing else :)19:24
tonyb#topic open discussion19:24
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tonybAnyone have anything?19:25
fungiheads up, on monday we're removing some old v2 backward compatibility shims from non-legacy jobs19:26
fungiit might be wise to keep an eye out for immediate breakage monday into tuesday at least, and maybe suspend release approvals if there seems to be an increased risk of some projects being affected19:26
fungithough i suspect the impact to release jobs should be minimal or nonexistent19:27
tonybokay cool19:27
fungi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/006888.html Long overdue cleanups of Zuulv2 compatibility base configs19:27
tonybSo should we offically try to clear the (release) queue today and just leave it until Wednesday UTC?19:28
tonybor would that be over reacting?19:28
tonybdon't wnat to make life harder for y'all19:29
ttxI don;t think we need to do anything special -- just be careful on Monday/Tuesday19:30
ttx(i.e. approve one by one and keep an eye on them)19:30
* diablo_rojo makes note19:30
tonybokay19:31
fungiyeah, be vigilant and give me or anyone else involved a heads up if you see something you think could be related to that19:32
fungiso we can help fix or rerun stuff quickly19:32
tonybokay19:33
fungithis was stuff that should have been removed well over a year ago, but because we didn't get around to it we don't know what new jobs may have quietly grown dependent on those migration conveniences19:33
tonybfungi: Yeah it's good for it to go19:34
funginon-legacy jobs will save a fair amount of unnecessary overhead19:34
tonybSo I'll probably skip +Wing anything on my Monday as I live in the future and don't want to pester ianw19:36
tonybanything else?19:37
ttxnope19:37
tonyb#endmeeting19:38
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ttx#thanks tonyb for getting up to run the release meeting!19:40
openstackstatusttx: Added your thanks to Thanks page (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Thanks)19:40
tonybttx: :)19:40
fungithanks tonyb!19:40
funginote that odds are we won't merge those changes until late on your monday, so it's more the folks west of you who are likely to run into this on monday19:41
fungibut there still could be fallout when you wake up on tuesday19:41
openstackgerritDmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein  https://review.opendev.org/66672120:11
openstackgerritDmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein  https://review.opendev.org/66672820:19
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diablo_rojoNow that the liaisons stuff has landed, I updated the wiki to point to the new location: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Release_management20:26
diablo_rojo(again)20:27
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ianwtonyb: ^ this particular coming monday i will be half-way between canberra and sydney without a keyboard, so even less help than usual :)22:01
tonybianw: Good to know22:03
tonybianw: If you're in Canberra and have time I could come meet you for a coffee or whatever22:04
tonybianw: but I suspct you're heading back to Sydney given the ordering of your statement22:04
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