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| openstackgerrit | licanwei proposed openstack/releases master: Cut stable branch for python-watcherclient https://review.opendev.org/681637 | 03:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eyal proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train release highlights for Vitrage https://review.opendev.org/681645 | 06:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | licanwei proposed openstack/releases master: Train cycle highlights for Watcher https://review.opendev.org/681648 | 06:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eyal proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train release highlights for Vitrage https://review.opendev.org/681645 | 06:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sampath Priyankara (samP) proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-masakariclient 5.5.0 for Train https://review.opendev.org/681650 | 06:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jiao Pengju proposed openstack/releases master: Train cycle highlights for karbor https://review.opendev.org/681651 | 07:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Luka Peschke proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train release highlights for CloudKitty https://review.opendev.org/681664 | 08:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | chenker proposed openstack/releases master: Train cycle highlights for Watcher https://review.opendev.org/681648 | 09:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: new-release: Drop tarball-base from individual releases https://review.opendev.org/681521 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release networking-baremetal 1.4.0 and create stable/train https://review.opendev.org/681248 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release python-troveclient 3.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/681438 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release and branch keystoneclient for train https://review.opendev.org/681355 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Cut stable branch for python-watcherclient https://review.opendev.org/681637 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release python-openstackclient 4.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/681581 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release python-masakariclient 5.5.0 for Train https://review.opendev.org/681650 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release sushy-tools 0.7.0 https://review.opendev.org/681451 | 09:20 |
| evrardjp | thanks ttx for approving those i suppose | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Stein https://review.opendev.org/680974 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Rocky https://review.opendev.org/680972 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: TripleO rocky release https://review.opendev.org/681115 | 09:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Queens https://review.opendev.org/680978 | 09:20 |
| evrardjp | :) | 09:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/releases master: Add cycle highlights for kolla in Train https://review.opendev.org/680636 | 09:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/releases master: Release networking-hyperv 7.3.0 (Train) https://review.opendev.org/681707 | 10:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov (noonedeadpunk) proposed openstack/releases master: OpenStack-Ansible Highlights for Train https://review.opendev.org/681008 | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lucian Petrut proposed openstack/releases master: Release networking-hyperv 7.3.0 (Train) https://review.opendev.org/681707 | 11:08 |
| evrardjp | I see OSA failed post release, I will check with them | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: os-vif: release stein 1.15.2 https://review.opendev.org/681358 | 11:52 |
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| frickler | release team: due to a misconfiguration on the mailman server digests for the release-announce list have been going out only when they reached 1000k size, instead of being sent daily | 12:49 |
| frickler | I have manually sent out a digest now and installed a cronjob that will hopefully send out daily digests again starting tomorrow. | 12:50 |
| frickler | just in case someone complains about suddenly getting too many release-announce mails ;) | 12:50 |
| openstackgerrit | wes hayutin proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO train ml3 release https://review.opendev.org/681617 | 12:51 |
| frickler | fwiw, with the old status, digests were going out about once every 2 months, containing roughly 200 releases in a single mail | 12:51 |
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| smcginnis | frickler: Thanks, I had noticed those were oddly sporadic, but never enough to gain my full attention. | 13:03 |
| frickler | smcginnis: yeah, the same thing happened to me. it was broken since the end of 2017 ... | 13:06 |
| smcginnis | Oh wow. :D | 13:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jiao Pengju proposed openstack/releases master: Release karbor-dashboard 1.2.2 https://review.opendev.org/681738 | 13:11 |
| frickler | if indeed people do start complaining, list admins could lower the frequency for the digest from daily to weekly or monthly, but IMHO daily should be fine | 13:12 |
| smcginnis | I agree. There are only a few periods where we end up having more than the occasional release, or several releases on the same day. | 13:18 |
| evrardjp | oh wow indeed | 13:20 |
| evrardjp | diablo_rojo: could you ping me when you're available? | 13:24 |
| evrardjp | (it's for L468 of the etherpad) | 13:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/releases master: Release openstackclient 4.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/681757 | 14:10 |
| dtroyer | releae team: let me know if you have any questions about ^^^. I realize it is a bit unusual, if there is a better way to handle it I am all ears… | 14:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release cinderclient 5.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/681604 | 14:15 |
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| smcginnis | ricolin: When you have a moment, please ack https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681240/ if you are OK with it. | 14:51 |
| ricolin | on it | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | ricolin: Thanks | 14:51 |
| ricolin | and +1ed | 14:52 |
| ricolin | thx smcginnis | 14:52 |
| smcginnis | dtroyer: I usually recommend against artificially jumping up on versions to sync up with something else, but in this case I think that's probably acceptable. | 14:52 |
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| evrardjp | yeah that looks acceptable | 15:41 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 12 16:00:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp armstrong tonyb | 16:00 |
| hberaud | o/ | 16:00 |
| armstrong | o/ | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-relmgt-tracking Agenda tracking | 16:00 |
| fungi | a deh ya! | 16:00 |
| fungi | you're right on time | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Gotta be punctual. ;) | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release tosca-parser 1.6.0 https://review.opendev.org/681240 | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | I just saw ttx around, so just waiting a little more before starting. | 16:02 |
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| ttx | o/ | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #topic Review week tasks completion | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review week tasks completion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:02 | |
| smcginnis | Looks like most are crossed off as done. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: I saw you ping diablo_rojo_phon earlier for that client lib task. | 16:02 |
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| evrardjp | yeah | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | so | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | I haven't proposed stuff | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-m3-unreleased-for-autoreleases | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | I have all those patches in my env ready, but I haven't digged yet into what must be proposed or not | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | Since some teams are still trying to get last minute changes in before their final client release, we could probably wait until later today or early tomorrow to see what hasn't been covered by the teams by then. | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | Either I can just propose everything and cancel what's not necessary | 16:03 |
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| evrardjp | yeah that's what I thought too | 16:04 |
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| evrardjp | but when I see that list of names ... I doubt things will change :) | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | let's see if I was wrong :D | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Maybe one or two of them, but yeah, I see some usual suspects there. | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | yeah exactly :) | 16:05 |
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| evrardjp | Would you mind if I propose them all, and cancel the releases that don't make sense? I know it's not the usual way, but our tox output is so nice. | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | and I love zuul | 16:05 |
| ttx | ++ | 16:05 |
| ttx | Better to put those out there now | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | At least we have pretty low overhead for our jobs. | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | So a few extra patches won't slow everyone down or anything. | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | let me push those now then | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | It might make it easier for some teams too since they can just do a quick update of the hash if needed. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Thanks for doing that evrardjp | 16:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-barbicanclient https://review.opendev.org/681793 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-congressclient https://review.opendev.org/681794 | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | that took me like 3 minutes, I can do that :) | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | #topic Release requests that may be affected by freezes | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release requests that may be affected by freezes (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:07 | |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-cyborgclient https://review.opendev.org/681795 | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | sorry for the spam | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-glanceclient https://review.opendev.org/681796 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-mistralclient https://review.opendev.org/681797 | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Right in the middle of the meeting logs! :D | 16:07 |
| ttx | yeah, I was about to approve that one this morning and was like... wait a minute | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-monascaclient https://review.opendev.org/681798 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-octaviaclient https://review.opendev.org/681799 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-saharaclient https://review.opendev.org/681800 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-searchlightclient https://review.opendev.org/681801 | 16:07 |
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| evrardjp | it's almost over... | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-swiftclient https://review.opendev.org/681802 | 16:08 |
| ttx | In theory we are at library freeze | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-tackerclient https://review.opendev.org/681803 | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | I thought oslo was already in freeze since they try to do it a week before the other freezes. | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-tricircleclient https://review.opendev.org/681804 | 16:08 |
| ttx | so should we really be approving those ? I guess it's ~ok | 16:08 |
| ttx | since requirements is not frozen yet | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | I thought we would still look for a requirements FFE for anything past the lib freeze. | 16:09 |
| evrardjp | should we implement some check to make it clear? | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Even if requirements in total are not frozen. | 16:09 |
| bnemec | We're in feature freeze. | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | bnemec: Oh good, was just going to ping. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | bnemec: Are the updates in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681333/1 important for train? | 16:09 |
| bnemec | The releases I proposed were bug fixes. | 16:09 |
| ttx | yeah it's a bit in grey area | 16:10 |
| bnemec | I guess they're not critical. All of the changes are backportable if we have to. | 16:10 |
| bnemec | Two are just release notes for things that landed recently. | 16:10 |
| ttx | libraries are frozen a week before so that people consume the latest features | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: Happen to be around? Any preference on getting FFE approval for lib releases at this point? | 16:10 |
| ttx | and then they are frozen at RequirementsFreeze | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Bugfixes would be good to get out there. | 16:11 |
| ttx | so in theory bugfix releases are still OK this week | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | And if there's no feature changes, then should be low risk for consumers of those libs. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | I'd say let's get them out then. | 16:11 |
| ttx | I would approve it now and freeze requirements after | 16:11 |
| ttx | just wanted us to discuss it first | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | So looks like one bug fix and two release notes. Ship it. | 16:12 |
| ttx | shipped | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | That was the only lib one out there now, right? | 16:12 |
| ttx | yes | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | #topic Discuss no-change libraries | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss no-change libraries (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:13 | |
| ttx | So I found only two cases of no-changes-at-all | 16:13 |
| ttx | cinderlib: has changes, just no releases (is cycle-trailing, so not really a library that services depend on. Should probably be moved to type:'other') | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | That is planned for release after cinder. | 16:13 |
| ttx | cinderlib does not behave like a library-you-depend-on | 16:13 |
| ttx | it's a bit of a one-off | 16:14 |
| ttx | so it shows on reports | 16:14 |
| ttx | I'd advise making it a "other" thing if it is to stay a cycle-tariling thing | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | It's technically a library, for other things outside of openstack, but probably does make more sense for our purposes to call it "oterh" | 16:14 |
| ttx | We don;t do cycle-trailing libs | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | Or "other" even. | 16:14 |
| ttx | OK, I'll propose that | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:14 |
| ttx | the other is os-acc and that is being abandoned | 16:15 |
| ttx | I'll propose a removal of the deliverable file | 16:15 |
| ttx | since that is what throws me off | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | ++ againo | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | *again | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Sheesh, typing. | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Only two is actually pretty good. And they weren't bad ones either. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | #topic Remind the requirements team to freeze changes to openstack/requirements by applying -2 to all open patches. | 16:17 |
| prometheanfire | smcginnis: ya, I'd say we are in freeze now, so FFEs for libs would be good | 16:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Remind the requirements team to freeze changes to openstack/requirements by applying -2 to all open patches. (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:17 | |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Remove os-acc deliverable https://review.opendev.org/681808 | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | prometheanfire: Would you like bnemec to do it for oslo? There's one minor bugfix and two release note changes, so they are pretty minor. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | Going through gate right now. | 16:17 |
| prometheanfire | I'd approve it, just needs the request | 16:18 |
| bnemec | Okay, I'll send a request to the list. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | there are a bunch of things still getting released to master that'll need it I think, unless the cutoff is 'now' or any review after x | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | I missed that part for FFE when reviewing, sorry. I thought it was not yet active. | 16:19 |
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| prometheanfire | many things in the same timeframe | 16:19 |
| prometheanfire | the date for freeze could go up til tomorrow though (the 13th) | 16:20 |
| prometheanfire | looking at the schedule | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Make cinderlib an "other" deliverable https://review.opendev.org/681809 | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | OK, we'll watch for anything else coming through that could have ripple effects on other deliverables. | 16:21 |
| prometheanfire | cool | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | #topic R-4 email content final review | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "R-4 email content final review (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:23 | |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | L424? | 16:23 |
| ttx | I did a draft, but there was two sections I was not sure of | 16:24 |
| ttx | evrardjp: yes | 16:24 |
| ttx | constraints update patches should not be approved until a stable/train branch has been created for openstack/requirements ?? | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | I don't believe that is still the case with constraints. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Now that tonyb got the static URLs, those can be approved at any point. | 16:24 |
| ttx | The patch itself says something like "will be tested with master until stable is created" | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Very small window of risk that some new library will be updated in master before the requirements stable/train branch is created. | 16:25 |
| ttx | OK removed the * | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | But not very likely and seamless to the teams. | 16:25 |
| ttx | fill train goal info ?? | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | I don't think we're doing that now either. | 16:25 |
| ttx | I was wondering if teams still filled those | 16:25 |
| ttx | I'm pretty sure they don't | 16:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Oslo releases for 2019-9-10 https://review.opendev.org/681333 | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | There are the storyboard stories, but not like before where each team had to submit a patch to update the goal. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | So I think that's out too. | 16:26 |
| ttx | done | 16:26 |
| ttx | I simplified StringFreeze to only mention dashboards since that is the only thing translated | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Looks good to me. | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Anyone else have any comments on the email content? | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Otherwise I will get that sent out after the meeting so I don't forget about it. | 16:27 |
| ttx | Also I did send a separate email to cycle-with-intermediary no-release-yet peeps | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Nice, thanks | 16:27 |
| ttx | because that would be noise for 80% of the teams | 16:28 |
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| ttx | next week we have a remidner for cycle-with-intermediary no-release-in-last-2-months peeps | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | Man, another cycle flying by. Only feels like I've been PTL for a few weeks. :D | 16:28 |
| ttx | ok, good to go | 16:28 |
| ttx | maybe wait until tomorrow to send it since it says "we are in FF!" | 16:29 |
| ttx | or late tonight | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | nothing to say on the email, but would be happy to discuss after the meeting about the constraints url innerworkings. I suppose it's with the nice redirections, but I don't know how it internally works | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Oh, true. I did try to soften the note under General Information, but there's more in there. | 16:29 |
| ttx | evrardjp: magic | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | I will make myself a note and wait until tomorrow. | 16:29 |
| evrardjp | ttx: there is no such thing Michael | 16:29 |
| ttx | well, a kind of magic | 16:30 |
| ttx | One dream, one soul, one prize, one goal... | 16:30 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | OK, if anyone has any updates for the email draft, feel free to propose changes in the etherpad. I will get that sent out tomorrow. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | #topic Review next weeks tasks | 16:31 |
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| ttx | I grabbed a couple | 16:31 |
| ttx | can also do the List cycle-with-intermediary ... thing | 16:31 |
| ttx | unless someone wants it | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Might as well since you've done all the others. :P | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | I'll do the stable branch creation. | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | haha | 16:32 |
| evrardjp | one man army ttx | 16:32 |
| ttx | yeah, that is what I was thinking | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Unless someone else really wants to do that one. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | It's reeeallly difficult. | 16:32 |
| ttx | This rage that lasts a thousand years | 16:32 |
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| ttx | Will soon be gone | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:33 |
| evrardjp | Is your second name Freddie? | 16:33 |
| ttx | You should see me doing the Show must go on. My best karaoke thing | 16:33 |
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| fungi | we ought to karaoke the entire flash gordon soundtrack | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | I don't think I've seen a good OpenStack karaoke party since Sydney. | 16:34 |
| evrardjp | Expectations are high now, and I am glad to join you on the karaoke (just for watching that) | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | fungi: ++ | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | OK, tasks are covered then. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:34 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else we need to cover? | 16:35 |
| fungi | (my wife has just gotten me to agree to adopting another kitten, and this one is named "freddy mercury" apparently) | 16:35 |
| diablo_rojo | Seems like noone has done cycle highlights | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Not enough cats in the car on the way to the mountains? | 16:35 |
| fungi | er, freddie | 16:35 |
| fungi | smcginnis: yeah, don't get me started | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:35 |
| ttx | diablo_rojo: not true, lots of them on the changes list | 16:35 |
| fungi | in real news, gerrit project rename maintenance commences 1400z monday | 16:35 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh | 16:36 |
| ttx | diablo_rojo: but yeah, far from everyone | 16:36 |
| diablo_rojo | I am behind this morning | 16:36 |
| diablo_rojo | my bad | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, lot's I've been holding off for your approval diablo_rojo. | 16:36 |
| diablo_rojo | I sent another email reminder yesterday | 16:36 |
| ttx | same here, holding off | 16:36 |
| diablo_rojo | I'll check them out shortly. | 16:36 |
| fungi | so there will be some gerrit/zuul/gitea disruption monday, but also some release requests were waiting for their respective projects to be renamed i think | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | We had the one. | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673234/ | 16:37 |
| clarkb | ya kayobe | 16:37 |
| ttx | ++ | 16:37 |
| clarkb | I wanted to point out that the gate has been super flaky the last week or so | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | It knows the release calendar. | 16:38 |
| clarkb | seems like overnight we've managed to get a number of fixes in and it seems fairly stable today | 16:38 |
| fungi | not to be confused with super freaky | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Totally different. | 16:38 |
| clarkb | we can enqueue bug fixes to the gate and promote them above other changes | 16:38 |
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| clarkb | but also release team might need to be ready for projects not getting code in and making hard decisiosn around whether or not thigns get RC'd | 16:38 |
| fungi | (i wonder if next christine will want to adopt a dog named "rick james") | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | We're usually pretty flexible about spilling over into the next week for teams that have been impacted by stuff like that. | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | Should be OK. | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | Alrighty, anything else? | 16:39 |
| diablo_rojo | None frm me :) | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone for helping with release management. | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Release Managers office - Come here to discuss how to release OpenStack components - Logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/" | 16:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 12 16:40:44 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-09-12-16.00.html | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-09-12-16.00.txt | 16:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2019/releaseteam.2019-09-12-16.00.log.html | 16:40 |
| ttx | Thanks smcginnis ! | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | ttx: You make it pretty easy. ;) | 16:41 |
| fungi | thanks smcginnis! | 16:44 |
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| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, so I have permission to +W the highlights I think are ready to go? | 17:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Or do you want me to just also +2? | 17:18 |
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| smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Yeah, please approve if you are good with those. | 17:24 |
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| weshay | hey qq regarding "release-model" https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/train/tripleo-ansible.yaml#L4 can I change that at will or is there a process? Context is this error.. ValueError: Cannot compute RC for cycle-with-intermediary project tripleo-ansible | 17:59 |
| weshay | while running " tox -e venv -- new-release train tripleo-ansible milestone" | 17:59 |
| smcginnis | weshay: You cannot do a milestone or RC release for a cycle-intermediary type of deliverable, and I don't think it makes sense for TripleO to be a cycle-with-rc type of deliverable. | 18:26 |
| smcginnis | weshay: Why do you want to create a milestone release for a deliverable like that? | 18:26 |
| weshay | smcginnis was trying to add that repo to https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681617/ | 18:28 |
| weshay | can I just change it to release-model: cycle-trailing | 18:29 |
| weshay | ? | 18:29 |
| smcginnis | That may make sense with what it is for. But that and a few others in that patch do not make sense as milestone releases. | 18:30 |
| smcginnis | python-tripleoclient should just be a release, not a b1 I think. | 18:30 |
| smcginnis | Several of those have always done intermediary releases, not milestone betas. | 18:31 |
| weshay | k.. I'll take another pass at tihs | 18:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train cycle highlights for keystone https://review.opendev.org/681896 | 19:32 |
| openstackgerrit | wes hayutin proposed openstack/releases master: TripleO train ml3 release https://review.opendev.org/681897 | 19:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Ivan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/releases master: Release Horizon train-3 16.0.0.0b2 https://review.opendev.org/681899 | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train cycle highlights for keystone https://review.opendev.org/681896 | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/releases master: Add Train cycle highlights for keystone https://review.opendev.org/681896 | 19:56 |
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| smcginnis | timburke: Probably easier to talk about the release here. ;) | 21:47 |
| smcginnis | timburke: Did you want us to hold off on that a little longer? | 21:48 |
| timburke | smcginnis, fair enough ;-) | 21:48 |
| timburke | i was just writing up a response -- there's only four patches landed since the last release | 21:48 |
| timburke | two fix bugs. one of those has been present since queens, but unreported. fix came as a drive-by while reviewing other work | 21:49 |
| smcginnis | timburke: Are there critical ones you want to try to get in yet this release? | 21:49 |
| timburke | the other, i don't think anyone else besides swift's own tests would be crazy enough to want ;-) | 21:50 |
| timburke | nope. | 21:50 |
| smcginnis | timburke: If we don't need to update the hash, I can update the version to just be a bugfix bump. | 21:50 |
| smcginnis | OK, so I can update the patch to fix the version then. Coming right up. | 21:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Auto releasing python-swiftclient https://review.opendev.org/681802 | 21:51 |
| timburke | third patch: lower-constraints update to accomodate a transitive dep getting unpublished from pypi | 21:51 |
| timburke | fourth, purely clerical | 21:51 |
| smcginnis | Oh, that lower constraints change is probably the reason it was a minor bump. | 21:51 |
| timburke | i really, truly meant that i'd be fine with letting 3.8.0 be our train release | 21:51 |
| smcginnis | Let me look at that change list again. | 21:51 |
| timburke | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672830/ | 21:52 |
| smcginnis | timburke: Really up to you. We can abandon this one and just do the branching from that point, if that's what works best. | 21:52 |
| timburke | the main thing to keep in mind is probably the lower-constraints change -- it'd probably need a backport to open up the branch | 21:53 |
| smcginnis | Raising lower constraints usually means a minor version bump to communicate that the required dependencies have changed. Even though this is one of those bad situations where someone actually removed a published package. | 21:53 |
| timburke | (side note: this is why i cringe at the idea of unpublishing artifacts...) | 21:54 |
| smcginnis | Since bumping the minor version is usually not an option on stable branches, we end up just doing a bugfix bump on stable releases, but that's more out of necessity. | 21:54 |
| smcginnis | timburke: ++ | 21:54 |
| smcginnis | timburke: So since you really should pick up that l-c change, does it make sense to you to do one more train release as 3.9.0, then we can do stable releases later (3.7.1, etc.) to pick up that backport on affected branches? | 21:55 |
| smcginnis | Then it will be in stable/train and you won't need to worry about backporting it there. | 21:55 |
| timburke | already have the backport (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674180/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675184/, maybe it shoud've gone further?) -- i forget for sure, but i'm not sure that i would've noticed otherwise ;-) | 21:58 |
| smcginnis | That's good. | 21:58 |
| smcginnis | Will probably just cause problems on any stable branches that have tox lower-constraints jobs running on them. | 21:58 |
| timburke | yup | 21:59 |
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| smcginnis | Nice thing is (I hope) in reality no one runs with the bare minimum requirements, but there could be some. | 21:59 |
| smcginnis | timburke: So does that plan make sense to do the 3.9.0 release? | 22:00 |
| timburke | if they do, they've already got 'em -- i'm not so worried. and the *direct* deps haven't changed | 22:00 |
| timburke | as far as a 3.9.0, i'd prefer to have something in the ChangeLog to call out the bugfixes. i could propose something, but as i said, i'm concerned about the gate wait | 22:01 |
| smcginnis | timburke: Does swift have things set up to skip jobs on doc only changes? | 22:01 |
| timburke | mostly. not ChangeLog as i recall, though. even if it did, i don't think it'd help here -- the fact of the matter is, any new change i propose is going to be waiting in line behind somebody who's already been waiting for 12 hours | 22:02 |
| smcginnis | If we need to wait until tomorrow to let a changelog change land, we can do that. | 22:03 |
| smcginnis | I think swift may be the only project still maintaining a changelog, btw. :) | 22:03 |
| smcginnis | Huh, you do have reno too? | 22:03 |
| timburke | i like writing a changelog ;-) | 22:03 |
| timburke | yup | 22:03 |
| smcginnis | Belt and suspenders kind of guy I see. | 22:03 |
| timburke | and we write one reno for the release :P | 22:04 |
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| smcginnis | OK, well I will leave that release request for now. If you want to update the changelog and then update the commit hash and version, please do so as soon as those land. Or if you'd rather stay with the old version (which technically is broken now because of those lower-constraints) then leave a message to abandon the patch and we can end up creating the stable/train branch from the last | 22:06 |
| smcginnis | release and you can handle any backport needs. | 22:06 |
| smcginnis | Sound good? | 22:06 |
| timburke | wfm -- i'll see how quickly we can get something through the gate ;-) | 22:07 |
| timburke | (looks like AUTHORS needs to change too -- i'd hate to deprive coreycb of due credit :-) ) | 22:08 |
| smcginnis | OK, comment on the patch. We will just hold off for now. | 22:08 |
| timburke | :-/ hold on -- where'd we land on the minor vs patch release? i'm not clear on why a transitive dep bump would require a minor release -- if you still have a keystoneclient 0.7.0 installed (which is what dragged in the dep), you surely already have the (now removed) prettytable 0.7 or later | 22:18 |
| timburke | the dep that swift stated hasn't moved -- your expectation as a user upgrading from 3.8.0 to 3.8.1 should be purely bug fixes within swiftclient | 22:19 |
| smcginnis | timburke: Hmm, I suppose since it's a transitive dependency, that does make it a little gray. | 22:22 |
| smcginnis | Normally any dependency change like that should trigger a minor update, but like you point out, if you pull in keystoneclient then you are going to get what you need. | 22:23 |
| smcginnis | So I guess we can just do 3.8.1. | 22:23 |
| smcginnis | Did the lower-constraint job pass on master without requiring the lower-constraints.txt update? | 22:24 |
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| timburke | arguably, the dropping of testing for py35 is the bigger change... we've seen it argued before that dropping a minor release of python should be a major version bump... | 22:27 |
| timburke | (not that we've *intentionally* broken 35...) | 22:27 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, could still work. Just not tested anymore. | 22:27 |
| smcginnis | Depends how strongly you feel about "not tested == broken" I guess. ;) | 22:28 |
| timburke | and how receptive you are to patches restoring functionality (and ideally, gate jobs) ;-) | 22:28 |
| timburke | looking at the results on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673123/2 (whose third patchset was on top of the lower-constraints change) i'd say no, the lower-constraints job (and *only* the lower-constraints job) didn't pass on master once the artifact was unpublished | 22:30 |
| smcginnis | So that kinda indicates the necessary version didn't get pulled in then, right? | 22:32 |
| timburke | because it couldn't be found on pypi. if you already had it installed, it'd work just fine | 22:32 |
| timburke | wanna write a WORM mirror of pypi? ;-P | 22:33 |
| smcginnis | But the argument for not needing the minor bump was your direct dependency would have made sure the right version was pulled in, but that doesn't appear to be the case. | 22:33 |
| smcginnis | Anyway, enough of a gray area for me that I'm fine with whatever you want to do there. Gotta run anyway, so I'll just wait to see an update from you on that patch. | 22:34 |
| timburke | 👍 | 22:35 |
| mriedem | do the cycle highlights items really need quotes around them? | 22:35 |
| mriedem | or is that for some rst formatting? | 22:35 |
| smcginnis | mriedem: I think that depends on how they are added for both yaml and rst to be happy with things. | 22:36 |
| mriedem | ok i'll tinker | 22:36 |
| mriedem | does the | from renos work here? | 22:36 |
| smcginnis | I believe so. | 22:37 |
| mriedem | hot | 22:37 |
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| timburke | mriedem, if there's one thing i've learned from notmyname, it's that there are 63 ways to write a multiline string in YAML :P | 22:37 |
| mriedem | we need a standards body | 22:37 |
| timburke | that, and `- |` is your friend | 22:37 |
| mriedem | yup that's why i asked | 22:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: nova: train cycle highlights https://review.opendev.org/681943 | 23:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Trove Train cycle highlights https://review.opendev.org/680532 | 23:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add Train release highlights for Octavia https://review.opendev.org/681616 | 23:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Train cycle highlights for placement https://review.opendev.org/681197 | 23:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add Cinder Train Release Highlights https://review.opendev.org/680891 | 23:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Train highlights for kuryr-kubernetes https://review.opendev.org/680650 | 23:59 |
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