Thursday, 2019-10-03

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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Update process for R-3, R-2 and R-1 weeks
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openstackgerritHervĂ© Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: stable/queens release oslo.messaging 5.35.6
ttxsmcginnis: not sure where I'll be at meeting time, so don't wait for me13:25
openstackgerritMatt Riedemann proposed openstack/releases master: nova: release stein 19.0.3
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smcginnisttx: Ack, thanks13:40
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/releases master: improve readability of schedule table
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Train RC1
EmilienMmwhahaha: are we branching stable/train, right? ^15:53
mwhahahai don't think so15:54
mwhahahai thought we do the rc1 and then follow up with a branch?15:54
* mwhahaha never remembers15:54
EmilienMit usually depends15:54
EmilienMsometimes it's done between rc1 and rc215:54
EmilienMlet's do it now15:55
EmilienMso it's done15:55
mwhahahafine with me15:55
smcginnisRC's should include a stable branch.15:56
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Train RC1
EmilienMdone :D15:56
EmilienMsmcginnis: the YAML are generated by our tooling -( that's why the modification is big15:57
EmilienMbut no big deal15:57
mwhahahai stopped using that for the release stuff15:58
mwhahahaand just use the venv new-release15:58
mwhahahabecause we had issues with tox linting15:58
EmilienMwe'll see if my patch pass the test15:58
mwhahahai only use my script for metadata bumping15:58
mwhahahai would abandon and do it with the new-release bits15:58
EmilienMah ok16:00
smcginnisRelease team, just finishing up a meeting, so need a few minutes before I can get our meeting going.16:00
diablo_rojo_phonSounds good! - me + ttx16:01
smcginnisOK, done.16:02
smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam16:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  3 16:02:08 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'16:02
smcginnisPing list: smcginnis ttx dhellmann diablo_rojo hberaud evrardjp armstrong tonyb16:02
smcginnis#link Agenda16:02
smcginnisLine 55216:02
* diablo_rojo_phon and ttx wave from the bar in Stockholm16:03
evrardjpwow that day went fast16:03
smcginnis#topic Purge any remaining RC1 exceptions16:03
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smcginnisI think we're actually good on RCs.16:03
evrardjpthanks for handling that, boss16:03
smcginnisThere's the puppet one, but that is a cycle-trailing deliverable.16:03
diablo_rojo_phonAll good then basically?16:04
smcginnis#topic Approve all branch patches without PTL feedback16:04
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evrardjphow did you get a cycle trailing in your list?16:04
evrardjpa convo for later :p16:04
smcginnisevrardjp: Just visual inspection of the open patches.16:05
evrardjpgot it16:05
smcginnisWe have had a few PTL acks, but a few remaining.16:05
smcginnisMost of which I don't actually expect an ack based on past history.16:05
smcginnisSo I think we can approve those.16:05
evrardjpwhat about the others, like patrole?16:05
smcginnisUnless there is something very critical, I don't think these will have another release anyway.16:05
smcginnisI think patrole went out yesterday or the day before.16:06
evrardjpoh my bad I missed that one then16:06
smcginnisYep -
evrardjpyup just saw it16:06
evrardjpmy bad16:06
evrardjpoh wait16:06
smcginnisOh, stable branch.16:07
evrardjpthat isn't branched16:07
smcginnisI'll get a patch submitted for that. It was a timing window between the others I picked up and that patch landing.16:07
smcginnisSo I'll double check missing stable branches.16:07
evrardjpI think with this one and the dashboards we should be good16:08
smcginnisI may be missing it, but I thought we had an easy script for that in the past, but now I'm not seeing it.16:08
smcginnisYou'd think I'd have a handle on our tools and cmds by this point, but nope.16:08
evrardjpsmcginnis: didn't you write it? :p16:08
smcginnisevrardjp: I blame Doug. :D16:08
diablo_rojo_phonAnd ttx ;)16:09
smcginnisIf the rest of you can review those open branch patches, I will get the patrole one added after the meeting.16:09
smcginnisWe also had "Discuss standing -1s on branch patches" on the agenda, but I don't think we have any at this point.16:09
smcginnisAnyone aware of anything?16:10
evrardjpmeans it's all good I guess :)16:11
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smcginnisThat's annoying16:12
smcginnis#topic R-1 email content final review16:12
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smcginnisIRC is sooo complicated. :16:12
diablo_rojo_phonsmcginnis: hi! Ttx here16:12
evrardjpmornings, right?16:12
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon has a split personality16:12
smcginnisLine 531 in the email etherpad16:13
diablo_rojo_phonAre we ready to do all the qa branching stuff?16:13
smcginnisI think so. Only major outstanding one that doesn't have a stable branch is swift, but sounds like they won't be ready until the deadline next week.16:13
evrardjpI didn't ping gmann :/16:13
evrardjpglad smcginnis handled it!16:14
gmannyeah, waiting for all required projects to be branched16:14
smcginnisgmann: Do we need to wait for swift to create stable/train before we can do the qa branching?16:15
diablo_rojo_phonSwift should have a branch16:15
diablo_rojo_phonI +2d that earlier16:15
smcginnisOur deadline for cycle-with-intermediary is Oct 10. I spoke with Tim yesterday and they were still working on a bug.16:16
smcginnisOr did I miss a new patch?16:16
smcginnisHuh, I did -
smcginnisOK, that is on its way.16:16
smcginnisgmann: I will ping you once the swift stable branch is created.16:16
smcginnisI think that's the last one needed.16:17
gmannsmcginnis: we need swift for branching before.16:17
smcginnisgmann: We should have that within the hour.16:18
smcginnisOK, back to the countdown email.16:18
smcginnisAll looks good to me.16:18
diablo_rojo_phonBut the swift branch cutting is in that patch right16:19
smcginnisI will plan on sending that out tomorrow my morning, so if anyone has anything they want to change, just let me know or update the etherpad.16:19
evrardjpNot enough train noises translated in the email.16:19
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: Yep, release and branch.16:19
evrardjpbut the rest seems good16:19
diablo_rojo_phonIgnore me < ttx16:19
smcginnisMaybe I'll add a few gifs to it. :)16:19
evrardjpdiablo_rojo_phon:  we do16:19
evrardjpthat scare on switch not being branched in that patch!16:20
smcginnisOh, forgot I'm out tomorrow. I should still be able to get the countdown out, but I will not be around on IRC.16:20
smcginnisEmail, text, whatapp, hangouts, etc if you need me for anything.16:21
evrardjpwill there be anyone available tomorrow?16:21
evrardjpthat might change how I organise my day to help a little more here16:21
diablo_rojo_phonTtx and I both fly home tomorrow so... Just you evrardjp ;)16:21
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: Both of you are still traveling tomorrow, right?16:21
smcginnisAh, guess you're our only hope evrardjp-kenobi.16:21
diablo_rojo_phonYou got this.16:21
evrardjpok, time to conquer the world, pinky16:22
smcginnisSorry to put you on the spot. I will try to check in if I can, but I can't promise anything.16:22
smcginnisHoping for a quiet Friday.16:22
evrardjptake over the world* sorry I just know it in french16:22
evrardjpsmcginnis: no worries16:22
smcginnis#topic Review/assign next week tasks16:23
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diablo_rojo_phonTtx said he would be around a few hours16:23
smcginnisGreat, thanks diablo_rojo_phon-ttx. :P16:23
diablo_rojo_phonNo problem.16:23
smcginnisSo tasks...16:24
smcginnisProcess all remaining stable branching exceptions16:24
diablo_rojo_phonThis passing my phone back and forth has been quite entertaining.16:24
smcginnisI think we can all cover that one.16:24
smcginnisHaha, I wish we had video.16:24
smcginnis"check the list of unreleased changes for cycle-with-rc projects and verify with the PTLs and liaisons that they are planning a release"16:24
evrardjpsmcginnis: I am not sure you want that16:24
diablo_rojo_phonThe next time he's got my phone I'll get someone to take a picture.16:25
evrardjptell him to buy himself a phone16:25
smcginnisI can take this one unless someone else wants to take it.16:25
smcginnisJust need to run the script to see who has committed changes that have not been picked up in an RC2.16:26
evrardjpI can help at the beginning of the week16:26
smcginnisevrardjp: Want to take that, and if you can't get to it I'll be your backup?16:26
evrardjpsounds good16:26
smcginnis"Test the final release process using the openstack/release-test repository to ensure our machinery is functional."16:26
smcginnisA good safety check.16:26
fungithe canary in the coal mine16:27
evrardjpyeah. Not sure what it fully entails though16:27
smcginnisSeems like we should be good at this point, but we don't want anything going wrong in the middle of the final release.16:27
diablo_rojo_phonevrardjp: I can probably help too16:27
smcginnisJust need to do a release of release-test as if it's a final release and make sure nothing goes boom.16:27
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evrardjpsmcginnis: small canary in small mine :)16:27
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon or evrardjp: Do one (or both) of you want to take that task?16:27
evrardjpyup let's take that one16:28
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evrardjpif necessary we'll ping you16:28
evrardjpwe'll compare with previous canaries :)16:28
smcginnisttx already signed up for the R-0 email draft.16:28
diablo_rojo_phonSounds good.16:28
smcginnis"use propose-final-releases to tag the existing most recent release candidates as the final release"16:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: swift 2.23.0 release and stable/train branch
smcginnisI can take that one. Again, unless someone else really wants to take it.16:29
evrardjpIt's yours to take I think :p16:29
smcginnis"Notify the documentation team that it should be safe to apply their process to create the new release series landing pages"16:29
smcginnisThey've usually been on top of this, but with the transition to SIG, probably more important to make sure someone takes care of it.16:30
smcginnisI can do that one.16:30
evrardjpit's not yet transitioned to a sig due to... this kind of things for example :)16:31
smcginnisAnd last task, ttx will post a patch to update process.16:31
diablo_rojo_phonHe says he did.16:31
smcginnisevrardjp: Yeah, I'm still not sold on that idea. But I also don't have a lot of say either.16:31
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: OK, thanks.16:31
diablo_rojo_phonNo problem16:31
smcginnisThat's it for next week's tasks.16:32
evrardjpsmcginnis: not sure many of us have anything to say about this :)16:32
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:32
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evrardjpnothing to add.16:32
smcginnisOh, one update. I emailed tonyb to see how he's doing.16:32
smcginnisIt's been crunch time for him, so sounds like the decision to hand off was a good one.16:32
smcginnisHe is hoping to be back soon though.16:32
smcginnisWhich I was very happy to hear.16:33
evrardjpyeah that's good news16:33
evrardjphope he is fine far down under :)16:33
diablo_rojo_phonHe's coming back from the future?16:33
smcginnisUntil then though, I'm wondering if we should try to get multiple eyes on the stable release patches and approve them once we've had a few reviews since waiting for a Monday stable review day isn't really working out right now.16:34
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: Haha, yep.16:34
evrardjpdiablo_rojo_phon: not sure to understand... it's because it's summer already for him ?16:34
smcginnisSpring I think.16:34
fungispring just started in his hemisphere, yeah16:34
diablo_rojo_phonevrardjp: it's Friday for him.16:34
diablo_rojo_phonHe lives in the future.16:34
smcginnisBizzaro land :)16:34
evrardjpI feel like it is for me already16:35
evrardjpor it should be16:35
fungilate thursday night there at least16:35
evrardjpmore likely it should be :p16:35
evrardjpconfusing summer and spring16:35
evrardjpgood news indeed!16:35
diablo_rojo_phon2:35 am Friday in Canberra16:35
smcginnisAlright, I don't really have anything else. Looks like we're in decent shape.16:36
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smcginnisAnything else before I close out the meeting?16:36
smcginnisOK, thanks everyone!16:37
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openstackMinutes (text):
smcginnisevrardjp: Would you mind hitting quick?16:37
smcginnisAny if we can get reviews on the stable branch creation patches, we really should get those through.16:37
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: There's a glance cycle highlights patch that I think was waiting for you to take a look through.16:38
smcginnisProbably too late anyway, but good for history.16:38
evrardjpI will do it16:38
diablo_rojo_phonI'll check it out tonight/tomorrow morning.16:38
diablo_rojo_phonEhhh might be able to get it in still.16:38
fungid'oh, i missed open discussion, but...16:40
fungi#link OpenStack Infra (Ussuri Cycle) artifact signing key16:40
fungithat's ready, i'll push up changes to start using it after the release16:40
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smcginnisNice! Thanks fungi.16:41
fungino problem16:41
smcginnisfungi: Do you have a link to that process again somewhere where others like me can validate it?16:41
smcginnisI forget what that's even called now.16:41
smcginnisProbably referenced in our docs.16:41
evrardjpkey signing?16:41
smcginnisAh, attestation.16:42
fungiattestation is a word for the concept, while key signing is a more specific process for achieving it16:43
fungiso you attest to the validity of the key by signing it and publishing that signature, but the goal and intent is the attestation, not the mechanics of how you indicated it16:44
evrardjpyeah. my bad, as usual, jp is not using the right words16:45
fungithey're all right words, just explaining why i chose the specific words i did for the documentation16:45
evrardjpI never doubted you using the right words fungi :)16:46
fungii also wanted to bring up that with the opendevification of all things, we've talking about ways to generalize and also enable self-service for artifact signatures and signing key management16:48
fungii think we still intend to maintain a system-wide artifact signing solution anyone can rely on to prove that artifacts created in opendev haven't been tampered with16:49
fungithough will likely stop tying it to openstack releases (maybe annual rotation instead) and will switch to a non-openstack-specific e-mail addres for the key's uid16:50
fungibut also the current process we're following can really be followed independently by any project, since the only bits which need to touch opendev are injecting the desired signing subkey into a zuul secret16:51
fungiso if the openstack project still wanted a per-cycle key of its own, that could easily coexist (though we might need some tweaks to the job to iterate over multiple keys and create multiple signatures)16:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add train release note links
fungiwe're also talking about whether running a stand-alone barbican for opendev could provide an alternative place to generate and share team/project-specific private keys down the road16:53
fungiwhich seems to me like it could be another synergy of openstack's software and opendev's services16:54
fungisimilar to our ideas about using a stand-alone keystone for sso id management in opendev's various disparate services16:55
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openstackgerritHervĂ© Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: stable/rocky release oslo.messaging 8.1.4
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evrardjpI like the idea of having opendev signed artifacts based on projects. I can totally see it useful outside openstack19:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: improve readability of schedule table
smcginnisgmann_afk: The swift stable/train branch has been created now. I think you are probably clear to go ahead with the QA steps.19:54
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/releases master: Redirects to master should always be temporary
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openstackgerritLingxian Kong proposed openstack/releases master: Release python-troveclient 2.17.1 for stable/stein
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Train RC1
openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/releases master: Redirects to master should always be temporary
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Train RC1
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Train RC1
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/releases master: Release Puppet OpenStack Train RC1
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