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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 23 16:00:22 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: ttx armstrong diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon | 16:00 |
| hberaud | o/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ussuri-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 16:00 |
| armstrong | o/ | 16:00 |
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| smcginnis | hberaud: You probably have a reminder, but if you want to be added to the ping list, feel free to add your nick to the etherpad ^ | 16:01 |
| elod | o/ | 16:01 |
| ttx | o/ | 16:01 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 16:01 |
| hberaud | smcginnis: sure thanks but irc notification is enough for me | 16:01 |
| elod | hi, i'd like to join too, since i'd like to help with Rocky EM preparation :) | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | elod: Welcome! | 16:02 |
| elod | :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Looks like we around line 253 in the etherpad. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #topic Review/assign tasks for future weeks leading up to milestone-2 | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review/assign tasks for future weeks leading up to milestone-2 (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:03 | |
| smcginnis | We have a list of tasks in R-14 and R-13 for milestone 2. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | ttx: I think you've always done membership freeze in the past, but I can take that one if you'd like. | 16:04 |
| ttx | hmm, I prefer to do it as the tooling is in flux | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Ah, good call then. ;) | 16:05 |
| ttx | (my new tool still being in review right now) | 16:05 |
| ttx | But you can take the aclcheck the week after :) | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | What was "Create task plan toward usurri-3"? | 16:05 |
| ttx | It's about translating the task list from porcess into the tracking plan | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Thanks for taking that one. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | So R-14 is done, looking at R-13. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I can take the autoreleases since the tooling there is a little in flux too. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I think we're covered then. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | #topic What more should we do about independent signature links | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "What more should we do about independent signature links (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:08 | |
| smcginnis | OK, I added this before the patch merged. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.opendev.org/699885 | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | This adds links to signatures on the releases.o.o page. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | The issue being that some of the older releases did not have signature files. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | So there are a few 404 links in there. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | I think less than there are good links though, at this point. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | So the outstanding question is if we want to do anything about those missing ones. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | I think some of our options are: | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | 1) Retroactively generate the files | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | 2) Add some mechanism to explictly skip adding the links for deliverables that do not have them. | 16:09 |
| * tonyb sneaks in the back | 16:10 | |
| ttx | I prefer 2 | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | 3) Do nothing and let there be older releases with 404 under the assumption that many will not bother with those old ones. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Hey! | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | I meant: tonyb: Hey! :) | 16:10 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: o/ | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | So if we wanted to go with 2, we could add something to the deliverable yaml schema to have a new flag under each release, since it would need to be a per-release thing. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Then update the sphinx directive used for those to recognize the flag and skip adding the link based on it. | 16:11 |
| diablo_rojo | Seems reasonable to me. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Sound about right? | 16:12 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: Yup | 16:12 |
| tonyb | and I like that option best of the 3 | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | That works for me. We'll have a bit of yaml file churn, and we'll need to go through and figure out which releases need that flag. Anyone signing up for doing all that? | 16:12 |
| * smcginnis looks in ttx's direction | 16:13 | |
| ttx | yes +1 | 16:13 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: I have a tool that can do most of: go through and figure out which releases need that flag. part | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | Yes, you're signing up for the work, or yes, that sounds like a reasonable plan? :) | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | tonyb: Oh, great. | 16:14 |
| tonyb | I can so that part of ttx does the hard part | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | We do have some pieces in place, so if someone wants to take the time to script it up, shouldn't really be too bad. | 16:14 |
| * diablo_rojo thinks it sounds like tonyb is signing up for the work | 16:14 | |
| tonyb | diablo_rojo: the *easy* part | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | In that references patch, I did experiment with adding a link check, but obviously that made the docs build really, really slow. | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | So tonyb comes up with the list. ttx updates the schema and sphinx extension? | 16:15 |
| tonyb | Yeah I think it took more that 15mins to workout which ones are missing | 16:15 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: I'm up for that | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | #action tonyb to get list of broken links | 16:15 |
| ttx | will just take me a bit | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | #action ttx to update schema and sphinx directive to skip broken links | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | It's at least a plan. | 16:16 |
| ttx | I'll add it to the tracking so that I remember | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | And on the plus side, I don't think it's too time critical since these are all older releases that are likely not viewed often. | 16:16 |
| tonyb | ttx: If you let me know what the flag will look like I can do that part tomorrow | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | Probably something along these lines? http://paste.openstack.org/show/788723/ | 16:18 |
| ttx | tonyb: I have no idea yet | 16:18 |
| ttx | but yeah probably ^ | 16:18 |
| tonyb | Okay I'll just assume that ;P | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | Naming subject to changing, probably. | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | OK, think we at least have a plan and direction there. | 16:20 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: Sure but that's just sed at that point | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | #topic Rocky transition to EM coming 2-24 | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky transition to EM coming 2-24 (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:20 | |
| smcginnis | tonyb: ;) | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | So just wanted to start making a little noise that we are getting close to the published EM transition date for Rocky. | 16:20 |
| elod | I can prepare the mail and the list of the unreleased + open changes | 16:20 |
| tonyb | elod: Thanks | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | elod: Great! I was just thinking someone needs to get that sent out to the ML so folks start preparing. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | If it's like last time, there will be a crunch at the end with some teams trying to quickly get bug fixes backported. | 16:21 |
| elod | the question is about your concern smcginnis the libraries? | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | elod: Not sure what you're asking. :] | 16:21 |
| elod | so should we focus some projects first? :) | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Oh, right! | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | I'm still not sure. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | After the last discussion, it seemed like it was maybe a valid concern, but we also didn't run into any actual issues with doing them all at once in the wild, so maybe there's actually low risk given the "stableness" of the stable branches. | 16:23 |
| elod | or what to do to avoid breakages? | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | So, I guess I'm fine just sticking to what we've done and address issues if and when we run into them. | 16:23 |
| elod | i'm ok with that, too | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | We could just try to process library releases first, then give it a bit before we process the services. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | So not separate deadlines, but just kind of some caution built into our release processing. | 16:24 |
| elod | separate mails/pad? | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | Maybe in your post to the ML, just suggest teams focus on wrapping up their libraries first if there is any concern about changes? | 16:25 |
| elod | sounds good to me | 16:26 |
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| smcginnis | Great, thanks for taking that part on elod. Hopefully things get more streamlined for doing these transitions. | 16:27 |
| elod | no problem :) | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Anything else concerning EM transition from anyone? | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Good. We have some time for anything that comes up too. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | #topic tempest 23.0.0 release-failures | 16:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "tempest 23.0.0 release-failures (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:28 | |
| armstrong | what is EM? | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | armstrong: Extended maintenance. | 16:28 |
| tonyb | armstrong: Extemed Maintenance | 16:28 |
| elod | Extended Maintenance | 16:28 |
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| armstrong | ok thx | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | So basically we used to end of life older branches, but now we let them stick around a little longer. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | We just don't do official releases anymore. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | Who added this topic? | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | I guess I can just recap. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | We had a propose-update-constraints job failure yesterday due to an issue on one of the gitea servers. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Not thinking, we reenqueued the job, but that didn't work since everything is triggered by the tagging job passing, which failed since that was already done successfully the first time around. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | So I ended up just manually running the script to propose the update. | 16:30 |
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| smcginnis | That was really the only thing that was missed, so everything should be good now. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | Was there anything more to discuss about that? | 16:31 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: loooks like not? | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | I guess not. :D | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:33 | |
| smcginnis | Anything else to talk about today? Or should we get back to work? | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | Or evening relaxation for tonyb. ;) | 16:33 |
| diablo_rojo | Its so fun when we have more than just, smcginnis, ttx and I :) | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | Or not even evening now. 3:30 in the morning for you, right tonyb? | 16:34 |
| tonyb | 1734 | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | WTH are you doing here! :D | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Oh, travelling? | 16:34 |
| tonyb | otherwise known as beer o'clock | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Then we should really let you get going. | 16:34 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: I'm in the Czech republic | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Nice! I'd like to get there some day. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | OK, I think we can wrap up then. | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Thanks everyone! | 16:35 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: We shoudl talk | 16:35 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks smcginnis! | 16:35 |
| elod | tonyb: than you are quite close! | 16:35 |
| armstrong | thanks | 16:35 |
| tonyb | there's a conference that we need more OpenStack at ;P | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Release Managers office - Come here to discuss how to release OpenStack components - Logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/" | 16:35 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 23 16:35:21 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-01-23-16.00.html | 16:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-01-23-16.00.txt | 16:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-01-23-16.00.log.html | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | tonyb: Which conference? | 16:35 |
| tonyb | elod: Yes pretty close | 16:35 |
| tonyb | devconf.cz | 16:35 |
| elod | tonyb: enjoy the beer there! :) | 16:35 |
| tonyb | elod: as much as I can :) | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | If it's the same time every year, that might be easy to piggyback on a FOSDEM trip. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | I'm doing something similar with DevOpsPro EU. | 16:36 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: Yes! | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | Probably helps that you can stop by the Red Hat office there. | 16:37 |
| ttx | smcginnis: sorry I was drawn to some urgent call... | 16:53 |
| ttx | I was the one asking about the release-jobs | 16:53 |
| ttx | There was a subsequent failure which may or may not be related to the one you fixed | 16:54 |
| ttx | but that's probably the reenqueue right | 16:54 |
| ttx | triggering the reupload and failing that | 16:54 |
| ttx | so I think we are good | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | Yep, that was just the attempt to rerun the job. | 16:55 |
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| ttx | ok thx | 17:09 |
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