Thursday, 2020-01-23

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evrardjpfyi I won't be available starting tonight, until next week Friday, included.07:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release horizon train 16.1.0
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release horizon stein 15.2.0
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release horizon rocky 14.1.0
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Update python-tempestconf to 2.5.0
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Ignore line length for bashate
openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Use __str__ for printing the contact information
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: governance/releases consistency check tool
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Add tools/ and get-contacts
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openstackgerritThierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Add docs for tools/
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add tools/ and get-contacts
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add docs for tools/
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 23 16:00:22 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'16:00
smcginnisPing list: ttx armstrong diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon16:00
smcginnis#link Agenda16:00
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smcginnishberaud: You probably have a reminder, but if you want to be added to the ping list, feel free to add your nick to the etherpad ^16:01
hberaudsmcginnis: sure thanks but irc notification is enough for me16:01
elodhi, i'd like to join too, since i'd like to help with Rocky EM preparation :)16:01
smcginniselod: Welcome!16:02
smcginnisLooks like we around line 253 in the etherpad.16:02
smcginnis#topic Review/assign tasks for future weeks leading up to milestone-216:03
*** openstack changes topic to "Review/assign tasks for future weeks leading up to milestone-2 (Meeting topic: releaseteam)"16:03
smcginnisWe have a list of tasks in R-14 and R-13 for milestone 2.16:03
smcginnisttx: I think you've always done membership freeze in the past, but I can take that one if you'd like.16:04
ttxhmm, I prefer to do it as the tooling is in flux16:04
smcginnisAh, good call then. ;)16:05
ttx(my new tool still being in review right now)16:05
ttxBut you can take the aclcheck the week after :)16:05
smcginnisWhat was "Create task plan toward usurri-3"?16:05
ttxIt's about translating the task list from porcess into the tracking plan16:06
smcginnisThanks for taking that one.16:06
smcginnisSo R-14 is done, looking at R-13.16:06
smcginnisI can take the autoreleases since the tooling there is a little in flux too.16:06
smcginnisI think we're covered then.16:07
smcginnis#topic What more should we do about independent signature links16:08
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smcginnisOK, I added this before the patch merged.16:08
smcginnisThis adds links to signatures on the releases.o.o page.16:08
smcginnisThe issue being that some of the older releases did not have signature files.16:08
smcginnisSo there are a few 404 links in there.16:08
smcginnisI think less than there are good links though, at this point.16:08
smcginnisSo the outstanding question is if we want to do anything about those missing ones.16:09
smcginnisI think some of our options are:16:09
smcginnis1) Retroactively generate the files16:09
smcginnis2) Add some mechanism to explictly skip adding the links for deliverables that do not have them.16:09
* tonyb sneaks in the back16:10
ttxI prefer 216:10
smcginnis3) Do nothing and let there be older releases with 404 under the assumption that many will not bother with those old ones.16:10
smcginnisttx: Hey!16:10
smcginnisI meant: tonyb: Hey! :)16:10
tonybsmcginnis: o/16:10
smcginnisSo if we wanted to go with 2, we could add something to the deliverable yaml schema to have a new flag under each release, since it would need to be a per-release thing.16:11
smcginnisThen update the sphinx directive used for those to recognize the flag and skip adding the link based on it.16:11
diablo_rojoSeems reasonable to me.16:12
smcginnisSound about right?16:12
tonybsmcginnis: Yup16:12
tonyband I like that option best of the 316:12
smcginnisThat works for me. We'll have a bit of yaml file churn, and we'll need to go through and figure out which releases need that flag. Anyone signing up for doing all that?16:12
* smcginnis looks in ttx's direction16:13
ttxyes +116:13
tonybsmcginnis: I have a tool that can do most of: go through and figure out which releases need that flag. part16:13
smcginnisYes, you're signing up for the work, or yes, that sounds like a reasonable plan? :)16:13
smcginnistonyb: Oh, great.16:14
tonybI can so that part of ttx does the hard part16:14
smcginnisWe do have some pieces in place, so if someone wants to take the time to script it up, shouldn't really be too bad.16:14
* diablo_rojo thinks it sounds like tonyb is signing up for the work16:14
tonybdiablo_rojo: the *easy* part16:14
smcginnisIn that references patch, I did experiment with adding a link check, but obviously that made the docs build really, really slow.16:14
smcginnisSo tonyb comes up with the list. ttx updates the schema and sphinx extension?16:15
tonybYeah I think it took more that 15mins to workout which ones are missing16:15
tonybsmcginnis: I'm up for that16:15
smcginnis#action tonyb to get list of broken links16:15
ttxwill just take me a bit16:15
smcginnis#action ttx to update schema and sphinx directive to skip broken links16:16
smcginnisIt's at least a plan.16:16
ttxI'll add it to the tracking so that I remember16:16
smcginnisAnd on the plus side, I don't think it's too time critical since these are all older releases that are likely not viewed often.16:16
tonybttx: If you let me know what the flag will look like  I can do that part tomorrow16:17
smcginnisProbably something along these lines?
ttxtonyb: I have no idea yet16:18
ttxbut yeah probably ^16:18
tonybOkay I'll just assume that ;P16:19
smcginnisNaming subject to changing, probably.16:19
smcginnisOK, think we at least have a plan and direction there.16:20
tonybsmcginnis: Sure but that's just sed at that point16:20
smcginnis#topic Rocky transition to EM coming 2-2416:20
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smcginnistonyb: ;)16:20
smcginnisSo just wanted to start making a little noise that we are getting close to the published EM transition date for Rocky.16:20
elodI can prepare the mail and the list of the unreleased + open changes16:20
tonybelod: Thanks16:21
smcginniselod: Great! I was just thinking someone needs to get that sent out to the ML so folks start preparing.16:21
smcginnisIf it's like last time, there will be a crunch at the end with some teams trying to quickly get bug fixes backported.16:21
elodthe question is about your concern smcginnis the libraries?16:21
smcginniselod: Not sure what you're asking. :]16:21
elodso should we focus some projects first? :)16:22
smcginnisOh, right!16:22
smcginnisI'm still not sure.16:22
smcginnisAfter the last discussion, it seemed like it was maybe a valid concern, but we also didn't run into any actual issues with doing them all at once in the wild, so maybe there's actually low risk given the "stableness" of the stable branches.16:23
elodor what to do to avoid breakages?16:23
smcginnisSo, I guess I'm fine just sticking to what we've done and address issues if and when we run into them.16:23
elodi'm ok with that, too16:24
smcginnisWe could just try to process library releases first, then give it a bit before we process the services.16:24
smcginnisSo not separate deadlines, but just kind of some caution built into our release processing.16:24
elodseparate mails/pad?16:25
smcginnisMaybe in your post to the ML, just suggest teams focus on wrapping up their libraries first if there is any concern about changes?16:25
elodsounds good to me16:26
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smcginnisGreat, thanks for taking that part on elod. Hopefully things get more streamlined for doing these transitions.16:27
elodno problem :)16:27
smcginnisAnything else concerning EM transition from anyone?16:27
smcginnisGood. We have some time for anything that comes up too.16:28
smcginnis#topic tempest 23.0.0 release-failures16:28
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armstrongwhat is EM?16:28
smcginnisarmstrong: Extended maintenance.16:28
tonybarmstrong: Extemed Maintenance16:28
elodExtended Maintenance16:28
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armstrongok thx16:28
smcginnisSo basically we used to end of life older branches, but now we let them stick around a little longer.16:28
smcginnisWe just don't do official releases anymore.16:28
smcginnisWho added this topic?16:29
smcginnisI guess I can just recap.16:29
smcginnisWe had a propose-update-constraints job failure yesterday due to an issue on one of the gitea servers.16:29
smcginnisNot thinking, we reenqueued the job, but that didn't work since everything is triggered by the tagging job passing, which failed since that was already done successfully the first time around.16:30
smcginnisSo I ended up just manually running the script to propose the update.16:30
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smcginnisThat was really the only thing that was missed, so everything should be good now.16:30
smcginnisWas there anything more to discuss about that?16:31
tonybsmcginnis: loooks like not?16:32
smcginnisI guess not. :D16:33
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:33
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smcginnisAnything else to talk about today? Or should we get back to work?16:33
smcginnisOr evening relaxation for tonyb. ;)16:33
diablo_rojoIts so fun when we have more than just, smcginnis, ttx and I :)16:33
smcginnisOr not even evening now. 3:30 in the morning for you, right tonyb?16:34
smcginnisWTH are you doing here! :D16:34
smcginnisOh, travelling?16:34
tonybotherwise known as beer o'clock16:34
smcginnisThen we should really let you get going.16:34
tonybsmcginnis: I'm in the Czech republic16:34
smcginnisNice! I'd like to get there some day.16:34
smcginnisOK, I think we can wrap up then.16:35
smcginnisThanks everyone!16:35
tonybsmcginnis: We shoudl talk16:35
diablo_rojoThanks smcginnis!16:35
elodtonyb: than you are quite close!16:35
tonybthere's a conference that we need more OpenStack at ;P16:35
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openstackMinutes (text):
smcginnistonyb: Which conference?16:35
tonybelod: Yes pretty close16:35
elodtonyb: enjoy the beer there! :)16:35
tonybelod: as much as I can :)16:35
smcginnisIf it's the same time every year, that might be easy to piggyback on a FOSDEM trip.16:36
smcginnisI'm doing something similar with DevOpsPro EU.16:36
tonybsmcginnis: Yes!16:36
smcginnisProbably helps that you can stop by the Red Hat office there.16:37
ttxsmcginnis: sorry I was drawn to some urgent call...16:53
ttxI was the one asking about the release-jobs16:53
ttxThere was a subsequent failure which may or may not be related to the one you fixed16:54
ttxbut that's probably the reenqueue right16:54
ttxtriggering the reupload and failing that16:54
ttxso I think we are good16:55
smcginnisYep, that was just the attempt to rerun the job.16:55
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ttxok thx17:09
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