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| openstackgerrit | Liron Kuchlani proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila-tempest-plugin 0.4.2 for train https://review.opendev.org/720343 | 04:52 |
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| adriant | smcginnis, am I ok with adjutant for releases in ussuri or is there something more I need to do beyond https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708794/ ? | 05:27 |
| adriant | I've got no more code I need merged, and no new bugs have cropped up as yet, so haven't seen the need to tag another version as yet | 05:27 |
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| ttx | adriant: that sounds good to me | 08:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Add details to unreleased lib check https://review.opendev.org/719027 | 09:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Renat Akhmerov proposed openstack/releases master: Bugfix release 9.0.2 for Mistral (for stable/train) https://review.opendev.org/720444 | 11:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-monascaclient for ussuri https://review.opendev.org/718257 | 12:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/releases master: Create release for tripleo-repos https://review.opendev.org/720461 | 12:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Tag governance for April 2020 elections https://review.opendev.org/717045 | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/reno master: tox: Suppress output https://review.opendev.org/719949 | 13:40 |
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| coreycb | it looks like castellan didn't get fully updated in: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/719611/ maybe a bot issue? | 14:58 |
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| redrobot | coreycb, I added a patch to fix the upper constraint for Castellan for 3.8: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720501/ | 15:11 |
| redrobot | would still be good to look into why the bot missed it though. | 15:12 |
| coreycb | redrobot: thanks, we switched discussion to #openstack-requirements | 15:13 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 16 16:00:32 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: ttx armstrong diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Board meeting is still going on, so we wait a bit for everyone to join. | 16:00 |
| armstrong | o/ | 16:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/ussuri-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 16:01 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Review week tasks completion | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review week tasks completion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:02 | |
| smcginnis | First in the list - process any remaining client lib freeze exceptions | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | This went well. Most things were done last week. A few FFE's this week. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | The one outstanding one is python-monascaclient. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Waiting to hear back on that one, but from looking at open reviews, I'm not sure what it's holding on. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Hopefully we have more clarity on that soon. | 16:03 |
| ttx | waiting for tc approval | 16:03 |
| ttx | err ptl | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Yep. They wanted to wait though, so that's the part I wasn't sure about. I don't know what they are waiting for based on what is out there. | 16:04 |
| ttx | maybe we should ping witek | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | He did respond on the patch this morning. I left a comment after that, but no response yet. | 16:04 |
| ttx | or ask on their channel | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | If I don't hear anything by tomorrow, I will try to track people down. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Unless anyone else has the time to do something before then. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Next in the task list - Freeze all cycle-based library releases except for release-critical bugs | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | So reminder to everyone, please do not approve any new lib releases without a reference to an approved requirements FFE on the ML. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Next - stable branch creation. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Those should all be done. | 16:06 |
| ttx | noted | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | List cycle with intermediary deliverables that have not been refreshed in the last 2 months. | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | I can ping witek tomorrow morning if there is no answer on it. (Sorry for the delay). | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I generated that list and posted to the ML, tagging each project that was listed. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: That would be great! Your timezone may be better for that too. | 16:07 |
| evrardjp | precisely why I propose | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Thanks, much appreciated. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I did get one response on the ML post. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Only thing was to drop barbican-ui, which has now been done. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | A few ironic ones in the list. That's a little concerning, but I think the team usually gets things wrapped up by RC1 time, so I'm not too concerned. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014084.html | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Probably should have posted that right away for reference. | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | thanks :) | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | A lot of *-ui that need to wait for late in the cycle for horizon changes too. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | So overall, several things in the list, but nothing that looks scary yet. | 16:10 |
| ttx | ++ | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Final task is the countdown email. Will send tomorrow as usual. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | #topic Assign next week tasks | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Assign next week tasks (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:11 | |
| evrardjp | any news from swift? Maybe they are super busy and it might be worth double pinging | 16:11 |
| * evrardjp is overly careful | 16:11 | |
| ttx | they are usually not the ones missing the deadlines | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | I don't disagree | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | No word, but Tim has been around and I know they are pretty good about it. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Though now with Nvidia, it's probably true that they are super busy. | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | Yeah I generally trust them, but exactly | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | there might be an exceptional circumstance around | 16:12 |
| evrardjp | I guess let's not speculate | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | :) | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | Tim has been around. If it's getting close and we don't see anything, pretty sure it won't be hard to check on status. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | So next week... | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | Process any remaining library branching exception. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | This is an "all" task. | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | generate release requests for all deliverables that have do not have a suitable Ussuri candidate yet | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | I can take that one. | 16:14 |
| ttx | I agree some deliverables in this list are definitely more important than others | 16:14 |
| ttx | so worth double-pinging | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | I'll reply with a reminder. | 16:14 |
| ttx | good to ping here if they are around | 16:14 |
| ttx | timburke: ^ | 16:15 |
| hberaud | o/ | 16:15 |
| timburke | on my radar ;-) | 16:16 |
| evrardjp | timburke: awesome | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Thanks timburke | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | OK, only other task next week is the countdown email. | 16:17 |
| timburke | between changing jobs and becoming a part-time childcare worker, time has a way of getting away from me lately | 16:17 |
| ttx | no kidding | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | Are we sure it's correctly indented smcginnis ? Sounds like it could be spread with more people, assuming they are available :D | 16:17 |
| timburke | no, that's the trouble -- too many kids :P | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | timburke: :D | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | timburke: :) | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: There are several subtasks as part of that, mostly to call out the differences with different release-models. | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | (I was thinking of the work between tuesday and thursday that might be an _all_ thing) | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | But I guess things like "Between Tuesday and Thursday, merge as soon as possible the patches that get +1 from the PTL or the release liaison." can be flagged as a task for all. | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | yeah, sorry for being a little bit pedantic there | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | OK, I broke that out to make it clear. | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | it's just to highlight to myself that I need to work on this :D | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | anyway, sorry for derailing again. | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | No, please do point out anything missed or that needs more focus. | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | #topic Virtual PTG planning | 16:20 |
| ttx | yes task for all | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Virtual PTG planning (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:20 | |
| smcginnis | ttx: Do you happen to have that ethercalc link handy? | 16:21 |
| ttx | I think it would be good to discuss evolutions of release models, for sure | 16:21 |
| ttx | no | 16:21 |
| ttx | also multiplexing with another meeting :) | 16:21 |
| diablo_rojo | I can get it. Uno momento. | 16:21 |
| ttx | re: timeblock, EU+US sounds like our sweet spot | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | Got it | 16:21 |
| ttx | not sure how much time we want tho | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy Virtual PTG planning ethercalc | 16:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Bah. Second too slow. | 16:22 |
| ttx | I'd keep it relatively short and follow up through email | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo: :) | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | ttx: I agree/ | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | One hour block or two - what do people feel like we need? | 16:22 |
| ttx | two I'd say | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Or more, if you feel we should have more sync time. | 16:22 |
| ttx | can end early | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | That works for me. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | This is all virtual too, so no reason we can't find some other time that we are free to follow up on anything we couldn't in the timeblock. | 16:23 |
| ttx | yeah, 2 hours sounds like a good middle ground | 16:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Agreed. Two hours sounds good as a start. | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Should I do a doodle poll or something to see what times work best for the group? | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Another option would be to just target this timeslot. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | And either start an hour earlier or an hour later. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Not like anyone will be traveling. | 16:24 |
| ttx | or wait until everyone else makes their move | 16:24 |
| ttx | (everyone's favorite Neptune's pride tactic) | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Good strategy too. We can just fill in after we all know what our other time commitements are. | 16:25 |
| diablo_rojo | I suppose none of them will allow for like.. smcginnis, tonyb, and ttx to all be there at at the same time. | 16:25 |
| ttx | yes tony will be the outlier | 16:25 |
| fungi | not without substantial loss of sleep anyway | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | The ttx to tonyb timespan makes it difficult, but it's possible. | 16:25 |
| diablo_rojo | (I am happy to take a sleep hit, but the rest of you all have children and families) | 16:26 |
| ttx | hberaud and jp are in EU too | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Someone would have to stay up late or get up early. | 16:26 |
| ttx | We actually outnumber y'all! | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo | ttx, that is a good point. | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Maybe we should doodle poll? | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo | or framadate | 16:26 |
| hberaud | +1 | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo | or whatever | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, so due to gravity, tonyb would be the one that would likely have to take the hit if we wanted to all get together. | 16:26 |
| ttx | and fungi lives in UTC | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo | My what that must be like. | 16:26 |
| fungi | i only enter low-power standby mode when my batteries run out | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Such efficiency. | 16:27 |
| fungi | not really, i have some worn-out batteries | 16:27 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, they don't make replaceable ones anymore for your model? | 16:27 |
| fungi | i occasionally find a few used on ebay | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | diablo_rojo: fungi: haha that made me smile | 16:28 |
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| evrardjp | fungi: what's the shape of the bottle? | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | sorry. I mean, the shape of the charger | 16:28 |
| evrardjp | ;) | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | OK, I propose we follow what ttx suggested and let other teams form their schedules for the PTG, then see what works well for us to fit in once we all know what our other time constraints are. | 16:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Works for me | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | At least I think that is what ttx suggested. Feel free to correct me. :) | 16:29 |
| ttx | ++ | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Either it will be obvious, or if not, then we can do a poll to find the best option. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | #topic Review countdown email | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review countdown email (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:30 | |
| smcginnis | I think I got the right draft this time. :D | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 16:31 |
| ttx | added virtual ptg to it | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Oh, perfect. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | We had pretty much reviewed the draft last week before realizing I skipped a week. So looks good to me. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Just update or let me know if there are any changes before tomorrow ~13 UTC or so when I will send it out. | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 16:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:33 | |
| smcginnis | I wanted to point out that https://review.opendev.org/#/c/719311/ merged to try to speed up docs builds. | 16:34 |
| ttx | nice | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | That should be fine, but if anyone notices anything odd with doc output, please let me know. | 16:35 |
| ttx | do we have evidence of a speedup? | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | oh nice indeed | 16:35 |
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| ttx | Like in the build job history in zuul? | 16:35 |
| ttx | if not faster, I would revert to be nicer to our noisy neighbors | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | haha | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | I haven't checked all, but based on the zuul build timing, it looks like doc builds were usually around 10-15 minutes, now closer to 9. | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | protip: don't tell them they are noisy | 16:35 |
| evrardjp | that topic name though! | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | So not huge, but especially during deadline crunch maybe it will add up. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: ;) | 16:36 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: In reality it doesn't really load all cores, so I don't think it would benefit noisy neighbors much. | 16:36 |
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| smcginnis | I tried other approaches like making our closed series pages static, but that didn't really make any difference. I think our bottlenecks are in the schedule directives and then just plain sphinx processing. | 16:37 |
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| smcginnis | I have a suspicion that our shelling out to run git commands to get last modified time for schedule source slows things down, but didn't have the bandwidth to dig into dulwich usage to see if there was a more efficient way to get commit time. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Anyway, just an itch I felt like scratching at the time. Main point being awareness that something has changed there in case multithreading causes issues. | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | Anything else for today? | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | nothing | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | I am no specialist on dulwich, I know I don't really like it or didn't like it last time I was needing it | 16:39 |
| evrardjp | :p | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | OK, I think we can wrap then. Thanks everyone! | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 16 16:40:55 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-04-16-16.00.html | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-04-16-16.00.txt | 16:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-04-16-16.00.log.html | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | thanks smcginnis! | 16:41 |
| ttx | thanks! | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: Commit.author_time | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | or commit_time | 16:41 |
| evrardjp | apparently it's exposed | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: Yeah, I saw the property. But from within the script, I wasn't sure about initializing the Repo object. | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | not sure it's relevant to what you said | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | oh | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | I was getting a weird error, then decided I had already spent too much time on it. | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | haha that sounds like something I relate to. | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | "why bother" | 16:42 |
| evrardjp | "ain't nobody got time for this" | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | And most of my time on OpenStack stuff has been when I feel like procrastinating on the stuff I really need to be doing, so I had to make myself stop. :) | 16:43 |
| evrardjp | oh, welcome to the club! | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | Haha, yep. | 16:43 |
| evrardjp | (if ttx says "++" it makes my day) | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | I hope he doesn't say that! :D | 16:44 |
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| tonyb[m] | If y'all pick a time that isn't too terrible for me I'll see what I can do but "cards on the table" I've been doing so little in the community lately I don't think it's worth going too far out of your way to accommodate me | 20:26 |
| smcginnis | Thanks tonyb[m]. As always, we would love to have you there if you can make it. We will try our best. | 20:30 |
| tonyb[m] | Thanks smcginnis | 20:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Goutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/releases master: Release manila-ui 2.20 https://review.opendev.org/720611 | 23:00 |
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| gmann | evrardjp: smcginnis i tried to capture the tempest plugins stable-em release and how to release it with a compatible version with tempest - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720603/1 | 23:23 |
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