Thursday, 2020-09-17

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openstackgerritAbhishek Kekane proposed openstack/releases master: Glance Victoria m3 release
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: TripleO Victoria m3 release
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-troveclient 3.0.1 for stable/train
openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Release python-troveclient 3.3.2 for stable/ussuri
hberaudsmcginnis, ttx: sorry I need to miss our meeting today again, I must to assist to a school meeting at the same time once again09:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Glance Victoria m3 release
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Victoria release for ansible-role-lunasa-hsm
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armstrong /msg  ttx  Hello, are you there?11:18
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ttxarmstrong: ping me when you're ready to try that task out12:00
ttxI'm around for the next two hours12:00
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openstackgerritArmstrong Foundjem proposed openstack/releases master: stable/victoria branch creation
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: Add victoria cycle highlights for cinder
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 17 16:00:08 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'16:00
smcginnisPing list: ttx armstrong16:00
smcginnis#link Agenda16:00
fungiit's that time again16:00
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smcginnisGreat, good turn out.16:01
smcginnis#topic Review tasks completion16:01
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smcginnisProcess any remaining client library freeze exception - I believe we got the last client lib through yesterday.16:01
* smcginnis checks dashboard one more time...16:02
smcginnisNice, it hasn't been down to that few patches in awhile.16:02
smcginnisFreeze all cycle-based library releases except for release-critical bugs.16:02
smcginnisWe've had one requirements freeze exception that I've seen.16:02
smcginnisOtherwise, I think it's been mostly quiet on that front.16:02
smcginnisSo just a reminder to make sure we get the ack from requirements before releasing anything new.16:03
fungidid the pypi problem tank any release builds?16:03
smcginnisHappily no.16:03
fungijust making sure i didn't miss anything which needed to get rerun16:03
smcginnisIt happened at a quiet time, and the one or two outstanding we waited on.16:03
fungioh good16:04
smcginnisSo the window worked out well as far as releases go.16:04
smcginnisNot so much for the teams trying to get last minute things in, but awesome work that it finally got figured out.16:04
smcginnisPropose stable/$series branch creation for all client and non-client libraries that had not requested it at freeze time.16:04
smcginnisarmstrong, ttx: I think I saw this earlier?16:05
smcginnisAh, yep16:05
ttxyes, worked like a charm16:05
smcginnisI thought there would be more. That's great.16:05
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smcginnisList cycle-with-intermediary deliverables that have not been released in the last 2 months.16:05
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: I think you sent out something?16:06
diablo_rojosmcginnis, yep the cwi deliverables that hadn't released in two months16:06
diablo_rojo(I also helped armstrong understand the script and what it was doing)16:06
diablo_rojoThere were like a half a dozen that hadn't released.16:07
diablo_rojoHavent run it again since Monday though.16:07
diablo_rojoSo it may have improved.16:07
smcginnisProbably the same. I don't think I've seen anything come through.16:07
diablo_rojoYeah I don't recall seeing anything either.16:07
smcginnisLooks like a few of those were things like requirements and tempest things, so really not too back.16:08
smcginnisThe others are not too surprising.16:08
diablo_rojoYeah there wasn't anything particularly concerning that I saw.16:09
ttxwhere is the list?16:09
smcginnisOK, bumped on the ML.16:09
diablo_rojothat same etherpad as last week too16:09
smcginnisttx: Should see a recent one from me now.16:09
diablo_rojoBut also the ML thread16:09
smcginnisheat-agents, karbor(-dashboard), swift (normally does late to get all changes in), and vitrage(-dahsboard).16:10
smcginnisLast task is the countdown.16:10
smcginnisI should remember to send that out tomorrow. :)16:11
smcginnis#topic Possible victoria red flags16:11
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ttxyeah just wanted to flag that one16:11
smcginnisNo updates for a few days now. I will comment on there.16:12
ttxthe earliest we fix this the better16:12
smcginnisttx: Anything more on that? I haven't been tracking it.16:12
ttxnot really... just that it needs to be on our collective radar16:13
smcginnis#topic Review countdown content16:13
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smcginnisI just made another pass through it and checked out for me too.16:15
smcginnis#topic Assign R-3 tasks16:15
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smcginnisProcess any remaining library branching exception.16:15
smcginnisThat's for all of us. Keep in mind requirements freeze and make sure we follow process.16:15
smcginnisOn the Monday, generate release requests for all deliverables that have do not have a suitable candidate yet.16:16
smcginnisAnyone want to try the new script I proposed for doing this?16:16
smcginnisOr I can take it.16:16
smcginnisOK, then just Send countdown email.16:17
smcginnisI can take that too.16:17
armstrongsmcginnis I am available to help16:17
ttxI can do it16:17
smcginnisThe release proposals?16:17
smcginnisCool, thanks.16:17
ttxI can team up with armstrong again16:17
smcginnisWould be good to get feedback on the tool.16:17
smcginnisThat would be great.16:17
armstronggreat! ttx16:17
ttxsame deal as today on Monday?16:18
smcginnis#topic Wallaby PTL16:18
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armstrongMonday same time?16:18
smcginnisFor various reasons, I am not sure I can continue as release PTL for Wallaby.16:19
smcginnisWould be a good opportunity to someone else to step up. You would have the support of the rest of us to get going.16:19
smcginnisSo no decisions need to be made on the spot here,16:19
smcginnisbut wanted to raise this so others can start thinking about it.16:19
smcginnisElection time is coming up soon, so you have a little time to think about it.16:20
smcginnisAnd feel free to ask either me and/or ttx any questions about it.16:20
ttxhberaud is not here, pinging him in case he would be interested16:20
ttxobviously we'd still be around for questions and help16:21
smcginnisAs everyone has seen, we have things pretty much automated and documented now, so there's at least not too much to have to know through tribal knowledge at this point.16:21
diablo_rojoYay for the process doc!16:21
smcginnis#topic Open floor16:21
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smcginnisNothing more from me today. If no one else, we can wrap up.16:23
armstrongCan we document an onboarding training for the release team? For example, the training that  dhellmann  gave some time ago16:23
smcginnisI think we added a link to that recording somewhere.16:24
diablo_rojoarmstrong, I want to say that it is somewhere?16:24
fungiyeah, good reminder... ptl nominations open on tuesday just before utc midnight and last for a full week16:24
fungialso the tc has approved a "distributed leadership" alternative to the traditional ptl model, which you could consider16:25
smcginnisfungi: Good reminder.16:25
armstrongdiablo_rojo: can you locate it?16:25
smcginnisNot sure how that would work with this team, but we could certainly distribute responsibilities.16:25
fungithough i do wonder what the "release liaison" for the release team would do, as it's a required position ;)16:25
smcginnisWe should add the training video to
smcginnisfungi: Haha, that's what I was thinking. :)16:26
fungi(for reference)16:26
diablo_rojoarmstrong, I will take look later today and see if I can find things.16:26
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: If you track that down, that would be great if you could propose adding a link to the release docs.16:27
armstrongdiablo_rojo: ok sounds good, thanks16:27
diablo_rojosmcginnis, will do one or the other depending on what I find :)16:27
smcginnisOK, I think we can close things up now. Thanks everyone!16:28
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openstackMinutes (text):
sboyronDo you have any ping list for these meetings ?16:28
smcginnissboyron: Yes, feel free to add you nick to the top of
sboyronsmcginnis great thx16:29
smcginnisfungi: Did we have a key to put on yet?16:30
funginope, not yet16:30
fungistill near the top of my to do list16:30
ttxthanks smcginnis !16:30
clarkbfungi: were we still planning on moving to an annual opendev key?16:30
clarkb(or similar)16:30
smcginnisI would think that would be fine.16:31
smcginnisWe can just reflect that in the doc section.16:31
fungiclarkb: i think what we came to was that we can support multiple keys, so continuing with per-release keys for openstack artifacts right now doesn't hurt anything, for the annual keys i think we'd use a more opendev-general signing key but want to have an opendev e-mail address we can add to it16:32
fungialso the keys are, at this point, just zuul secrets, so any project can supply their own16:32
fungiwe no longer have any systems automation around them16:33
fungithere's nothing which actually needs direct sysadmin involvement, other than we've just traditionally been the creators and keepers of the openstack signing keys16:34
clarkbthats a good point, the opendev key would be a nice to have but not strictly necessary for anything16:34
fungiat this point i consider that particular key's management to be an activity of the openstack tact sig16:36
funginot really an opendev activity16:36
fungiif we devised other ways of securely distributing a copy of the key for safekeeping, we could stop (ab)using the bastion host to store the original16:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/releases master: stable/victoria branch creation
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