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| openstackgerrit | chenming proposed openstack/releases master: update url https://review.opendev.org/759175 | 03:08 |
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| damani | hi | 10:05 |
| hberaud | damani: hello | 10:06 |
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| hberaud | smcginnis: FYI I voluntarily removed you from the list of people to whom I sent the direct email, so don't be surprised if you don't receive this email, I don't want to spam you with something useless for you | 12:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: [WIP] Adding a tool to track project who need to drop eol branches https://review.opendev.org/758990 | 14:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Managing the review inbox by series https://review.opendev.org/758378 | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Managing the review inbox by series https://review.opendev.org/758378 | 14:50 |
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| smcginnis | hberaud: Sure. Which emails? | 15:24 |
| hberaud | smcginnis: this one => https://review.opendev.org/#/c/758991/ | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | hberaud: Ah. Well, I'm not a PTL anywhere anymore, so that's good. ;) | 15:26 |
| hberaud | smcginnis: are you not the cinder's release liaison? | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | Oh, right! I forgot about that. | 15:28 |
| hberaud | as this email is destined to PTLs + liaisons | 15:28 |
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| hberaud | and I get your name in my extract :) | 15:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Adding PTL Cycle Information https://review.opendev.org/758991 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/releases master: New bugfix release for pbr. https://review.opendev.org/759286 | 15:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Managing the review inbox by series https://review.opendev.org/758378 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/releases master: New bugfix release for openstackdocsthemes. https://review.opendev.org/759286 | 15:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Managing the review inbox by series https://review.opendev.org/758378 | 15:56 |
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| ttx | o/ | 16:00 |
| hberaud | #startmeeting releaseteam | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 22 16:00:08 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 16:00 |
| damani | hi | 16:00 |
| hberaud | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 16:00 |
| fungi | ohai | 16:00 |
| elod | o/ | 16:00 |
| hberaud | #topic Setup wallaby | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Setup wallaby (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:02 | |
| hberaud | before going any further we will start with setup our future meetings | 16:02 |
| hberaud | If you want to be notified at the begining of each meeting then don't hesitate to put your name in the Ping List (line 13 of our etherpad ^^^^^ ) | 16:03 |
| hberaud | also if you plan to schedule some review days do not hesitate to put your name on our "Review days (lines 16-20)" | 16:05 |
| hberaud | else as you surely already know Wallaby is now on the rails | 16:05 |
| ttx | I'm in | 16:06 |
| hberaud | and all the related tasks above (etherpad) have been processed | 16:06 |
| damani | hberaud, yes sorry i will put my name for the notification | 16:06 |
| hberaud | damani: np :) | 16:06 |
| damani | i will put also my name for the code review | 16:06 |
| damani | :) | 16:06 |
| hberaud | nice | 16:06 |
| hberaud | well next topic | 16:07 |
| hberaud | #topic Gerrit-breach | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gerrit-breach (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:07 | |
| hberaud | so just few words about this, it seems that we are ok on our side | 16:07 |
| damani | yes | 16:07 |
| hberaud | AFAIK nobody complained about something | 16:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/releases master: New bugfix release for oslo.messaging for ussuri. https://review.opendev.org/759289 | 16:08 |
| armstrong | o/ | 16:08 |
| ttx | yep | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I didn't see anything odd. | 16:08 |
| hberaud | armstrong, smcginnis: FYI don't hesitate to put our name in our Ping list | 16:08 |
| hberaud | well next topic | 16:09 |
| hberaud | #topic Clarifying why heat's victoria release note list all versions | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Clarifying why heat's victoria release note list all versions (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:09 | |
| smcginnis | That appears to be the open bug with reno. | 16:09 |
| armstrong | smcginnis ok I will do that now, thanks | 16:09 |
| hberaud | I missed that one | 16:09 |
| hberaud | good to know | 16:10 |
| hberaud | ricolin: FYI ^^^ | 16:10 |
| hberaud | ricolin: and https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2008139 | 16:10 |
| hberaud | next | 16:11 |
| hberaud | #topic Clarifying how to manage Extended maintenance and EOL branches | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Clarifying how to manage Extended maintenance and EOL branches (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:11 | |
| elod | first of all, I offer my help for any tasks regarding Extended Maintenance process :) | 16:11 |
| hberaud | lol | 16:12 |
| hberaud | I started to write a test https://review.opendev.org/#/c/758990/ to check delta between our status and existing branches on the projects sides | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | elod: Thanks for getting that email sent out. | 16:12 |
| hberaud | I'll add some process to our doc to clarify thing on our side | 16:13 |
| elod | smcginnis: np | 16:13 |
| hberaud | but I think the stable team should ensure that patches are -2 on eol branches as elod suggested | 16:14 |
| elod | hberaud: yes, I can help with that :) | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Anything we can trigger after an -eol tag that would tell gerrit to block those right off the bat? | 16:14 |
| elod | nevertheless, some automation would be good to not to miss any such case | 16:14 |
| hberaud | Also I don't know if zuul could ignore these branches if they are eol, I don't think is it possible, isn't? | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | I suppose if we make sure the branch is deleted in a timely manner after that tagging, then we don't have to worry about it. | 16:15 |
| hberaud | +1 | 16:15 |
| hberaud | I think our process should say to notify ASAP the infra team | 16:16 |
| hberaud | I don't think we need the right to drop the branches | 16:16 |
| hberaud | this could be done by simply asking the infra, thoughts? | 16:16 |
| hberaud | s/the/to/ | 16:17 |
| elod | actually Infra team said that they need to be sure that the EOLing is OK from release team perspective, If i understand correctly | 16:17 |
| hberaud | yep | 16:17 |
| hberaud | so if we ask them I think we could consider that this is ok for us | 16:17 |
| elod | yes, that's ok | 16:18 |
| hberaud | awesome | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | I'd say our approval of the tagging request is the release team approval of it. | 16:18 |
| hberaud | +1 | 16:18 |
| elod | that's also true :) | 16:18 |
| hberaud | so either the infra schedule periodical checks on our side | 16:19 |
| hberaud | or we noticed them | 16:19 |
| hberaud | s/noticed/notify/ | 16:19 |
| hberaud | sorry | 16:19 |
| hberaud | as you want | 16:20 |
| elod | both sound ok to me, | 16:20 |
| hberaud | fungi: any preferences? | 16:20 |
| elod | of course if we can figure out any way we can do it more straightforward, then it would be even better | 16:20 |
| fungi | we could update acls for projects to block proposed changes for those branch patterns, i think | 16:21 |
| fungi | but might make more sense to just use that as an indication that the branch should be deleted at the earliest opportunity | 16:21 |
| hberaud | it will be awesome | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:21 |
| hberaud | to avoid to spend time to track new patches and chase them for -2 | 16:22 |
| fungi | newer gerrit we're upgrading to will allow us to grant branch deletion via api as a specific permission, so we could do some automation there | 16:22 |
| hberaud | awesome | 16:22 |
| fungi | so in theory it could be automated from the releases repo at that point | 16:23 |
| hberaud | maybe it could be triggered from our side | 16:23 |
| fungi | yeah, similar to the automated branch creation | 16:23 |
| hberaud | fair enough | 16:23 |
| hberaud | thanks | 16:23 |
| elod | thanks fungi ! | 16:23 |
| hberaud | #topic Next meetings/weeks | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next meetings/weeks (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:23 | |
| ttx | Looks like it's a noop now | 16:24 |
| hberaud | no meeting will happen during the next 3 weeks | 16:24 |
| hberaud | yep | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Do we have a planned timeframe for that gerrit upgrade yet? | 16:24 |
| ttx | there were a bunch of duplicated tasks in the etherpad I looked up this morning | 16:24 |
| fungi | smcginnis: mid-november it's looking like | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Great! | 16:24 |
| hberaud | ttx: I dropped them | 16:24 |
| fungi | not sure if this weeks events will alter our timeline at all | 16:25 |
| ttx | well, we'll have a PTG meeting next week, but otherwise yes | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | I was wondering about that. | 16:25 |
| ttx | It's the low tide season for release management, so enjoy it! | 16:25 |
| hberaud | #topic Open Discussion | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 16:25 | |
| ttx | also if we have development to do after PTG discussions, it's a great time to do it now | 16:25 |
| hberaud | agreed | 16:26 |
| hberaud | anything else? | 16:26 |
| fungi | do development now after ptg discussions? i'm not quite sure how to parse that suggestion | 16:26 |
| * fungi goes looking for his time machine | 16:26 | |
| smcginnis | It's much more efficient to do the development before you discuss it. :D | 16:26 |
| fungi | oh, i think i get it. saying the time immediately after the ptg will be great to get development done | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Yeah :) | 16:27 |
| ttx | yes | 16:27 |
| hberaud | About the PTL don't forget to put topics in our etherpad that you want to bring there => https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-wallaby-ptg | 16:27 |
| clarkb | re the planned gerrit upgrade I had intended on announcing that as a friday- sunday outage in novemeber on tuesday. Tuesday ended up being occupied with other things. I'm not yet sure if we're going to stick with that schedule. But gauging reaction to that from this group is probably a good water temp test | 16:28 |
| clarkb | we have to do the notedb conversion which takes about 8 hours, and tahts running from tip of stable branch with unreleased speedup fixes to the process | 16:28 |
| fungi | yes, we'll need to expect a weekend-long outage for the upgrade, and also a variety of regressions in functionality/integrations immediately afterward | 16:29 |
| fungi | apparently we can recover from a security breach in half the outage you need for an upgrade ;) | 16:30 |
| hberaud | thanks for details | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | We'll see if you can get quoted in The Register again. :) | 16:30 |
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| fungi | he's working on raising his celebrity profile | 16:31 |
| hberaud | :) | 16:31 |
| hberaud | anything else? | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Nope | 16:32 |
| elod | i have one thing, if there's nothing else | 16:32 |
| elod | about the time slot of the release meeting | 16:33 |
| elod | i want to participate on the meeting, but it is at the same time as nova meeting | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | We do seem to have skewed more to the east now. | 16:33 |
| elod | and i have a nova stable core hat so i need to be there as well | 16:33 |
| hberaud | I can propose a vote for few slots | 16:34 |
| ttx | sure | 16:34 |
| hberaud | more early on Thursday | 16:34 |
| elod | hberaud: thanks \o/ | 16:34 |
| hberaud | I'll share a doodle or something like that via email on the ML | 16:35 |
| hberaud | elod: you're welcome | 16:35 |
| elod | hberaud: thx :) | 16:35 |
| elod | I'll try to help with mostly stable related tasks if my time allows :) | 16:36 |
| hberaud | awesome | 16:36 |
| hberaud | then I think we are done, thanks everyone for joining us! | 16:36 |
| elod | thanks o/ | 16:36 |
| hberaud | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 22 16:37:01 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-10-22-16.00.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-10-22-16.00.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2020/releaseteam.2020-10-22-16.00.log.html | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | Thanks hberaud! | 16:38 |
| ttx | thanks hberaud ! | 16:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Daniel Bengtsson proposed openstack/releases master: New feature release for oslo.messaging on wallaby. https://review.opendev.org/759297 | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Automate review inbox dashboard link https://review.opendev.org/759309 | 17:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: New bugfix release for openstackdocsthemes. https://review.opendev.org/759286 | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: New bugfix release for oslo.messaging for ussuri. https://review.opendev.org/759289 | 18:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: New feature release for oslo.messaging on wallaby. https://review.opendev.org/759297 | 18:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sean McGinnis proposed openstack/releases master: Automate review inbox dashboard link https://review.opendev.org/759309 | 20:49 |
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