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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release Oslo's projects for Wallaby 2020-01-14 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/770721 | 06:40 |
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| hberaud | ttx, smcginnis: o/ When you'll have minute, please can you validate this one, deadline is today? Thanks => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/769915 | 06:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Remove useless email section https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/770735 | 08:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rajat Dhasmana proposed openstack/releases master: Release cinderlib 3.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/768766 | 09:05 |
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| ttx | done | 09:59 |
| hberaud | thanks | 10:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release victoria tripleo-ipsec os-collect-config os-refresh-config https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/769915 | 10:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Bump version for the start of Puppet OpenStack Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/768650 | 10:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Website: Add link to the git repository https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/769355 | 10:16 |
| hberaud | ttx: You didn't leave any comments, that's normal? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/769171 | 10:20 |
| hberaud | no wait | 10:21 |
| hberaud | you left 12 comments, I need better glasses | 10:21 |
| hberaud | ttx: ignore my question | 10:21 |
| ttx | I just added the -1 to make my 12 comments more visible :) | 10:22 |
| hberaud | :) | 10:22 |
| hberaud | I missed all of them previously so it was useful | 10:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Add doc related to validation status (red, orange, green) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/769171 | 11:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | zhongshengping proposed openstack/releases master: Puppet OpenStack wallaby Milestone 1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/770801 | 12:42 |
| ykarel | hberaud, seeing missing tarballs again | 12:57 |
| ykarel | for recent released https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=release-openstack-python+ | 12:57 |
| ykarel | os-refresh-config, tripleo-ipsec, os-collect-config | 12:57 |
| hberaud | I didn't noticed release-failures, @fungi FYI ^ | 12:58 |
| ykarel | jobs passed but tarballs not in https://tarballs.opendev.org/openstack/os-refresh-config/?C=M;O=D | 12:58 |
| hberaud | ykarel: maybe it could be something similar => http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019739.html | 13:00 |
| ykarel | yes possible | 13:00 |
| hberaud | ykarel: it could explain why we didn't get errors here too | 13:01 |
| hberaud | (because no error happened on our side) | 13:01 |
| ykarel | yes | 13:02 |
| hberaud | ykarel: could be worth to ask on #openstack-infra | 13:02 |
| ykarel | yes i think | 13:03 |
| hberaud | So this is due to another AFS issue | 13:09 |
| hberaud | ttx, smcginnis: FYI ^ | 13:09 |
| hberaud | c.f the #openstack-infra discussion | 13:10 |
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| smcginnis | ack | 13:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release cinderlib 3.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/768766 | 13:40 |
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| fungi | hberaud: we're behind on updating the public replica volume for the tarballs site, it's expected. the jobs haven't failed | 14:42 |
| fungi | there was a cinder host outage in rackspace which took down one of the devices which make up the data store for our afs02.dfw server so lots of very large volumes (including package mirrors) are having to be re-replicated from scratch and it's taking a while | 14:43 |
| hberaud | fungi: ack, thanks for the heads-up, frickler made me notice that too on #openstack-infra | 14:44 |
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| hberaud | #startmeeting releaseteam | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 14 17:00:11 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| hberaud | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 17:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 17:00 |
| hberaud | Ping list: ttx armstrong elod | 17:00 |
| armstrong_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| hberaud | We're way down on line 218 now. | 17:00 |
| hberaud | Will just wait a couple minutes for folks. | 17:00 |
| armstrong_ | ok | 17:01 |
| ttx | sure | 17:02 |
| elod | o/ | 17:03 |
| hberaud | Ok let's go! | 17:04 |
| hberaud | #topic Review task completion | 17:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review task completion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:04 | |
| hberaud | Victoria Cycle-Trailing Release Deadline => done | 17:04 |
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| hberaud | And I think we can move directly to the next topic as it will speak about the membership freeze | 17:05 |
| hberaud | #topic Discuss findings of governance consistency checks above and resulting necessary actions | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss findings of governance consistency checks above and resulting necessary actions (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:05 | |
| hberaud | ttx, armstrong_ : the floor is yours | 17:05 |
| ttx | alright | 17:05 |
| ttx | So the goal of this is to make sure we are aligned between the releases and governance repos | 17:06 |
| ttx | And, as always, we are not | 17:06 |
| hberaud | :) | 17:06 |
| ttx | First, things that are in governance, but not in releases deliverable files | 17:06 |
| ttx | karbor, karbor-dashboard, python-karborclient: newly-abandoned project. Will be fixed once https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/767056 merges | 17:06 |
| hberaud | ack | 17:07 |
| ttx | ansible-role-atos-hsm, ansible-role-thales-hsm: New barbican deliverables, we should probably reach out to barbican team ask if we should plan to release for Wallaby | 17:07 |
| hberaud | any takers? | 17:07 |
| ttx | and if yes, craete deliverable files for those | 17:07 |
| hberaud | I can ping them | 17:07 |
| ttx | etcd3gw: New oslo deliverable, see with oslo team if we should plan to release for Wallaby. or make it _independent | 17:07 |
| hberaud | I think we can move it to independent | 17:08 |
| hberaud | but before I'll bring that to the next oslo meeting | 17:08 |
| ttx | ok | 17:08 |
| bnemec | It was previously being released independently, so that makes sense. | 17:08 |
| hberaud | just to confirm | 17:08 |
| ttx | Now onto more problematic ones | 17:08 |
| hberaud | bnemec: thanks for the heads up | 17:08 |
| ttx | barbican-ui: (Added Oct 2019) -- never released yet, was not ready yet for ussuri and victoria. maybe we should abandon this instead of waiting? | 17:08 |
| ttx | it's been basically two cycles tat we have waited for it to be in releasable shape | 17:09 |
| ttx | hberaud: maybe you can ask about it while you ping barbican folks? | 17:09 |
| hberaud | I don't see reason to continue more further if nothing should be released anymore | 17:09 |
| hberaud | yes | 17:09 |
| ttx | It was never released | 17:09 |
| hberaud | It was the same scenario with few tripleo repo | 17:09 |
| hberaud | repos | 17:10 |
| ttx | so unless they are still making progress we might want to deprecate it | 17:10 |
| ttx | Same question for the next one: | 17:10 |
| ttx | openstack-tempest-skiplist: (Added Mar 20, 2020) never released yet, was not ready yet for ussuri and victoria. maybe we should abandon this instead of waiting? we should ask gmann's opinion | 17:10 |
| ttx | or maybe it's not meant to be released, idk | 17:11 |
| ttx | Third in this "not eady yet for a long time" category: | 17:11 |
| ttx | js-openstack-lib: (Added January 9, 2020) -- never released yet, was not ready for ussuri or victoria. maybe we should abandon this instead of waiting. Ask OpenStackSDK | 17:11 |
| hberaud | ok | 17:11 |
| hberaud | I'll ping all these teams to clarify the situation | 17:11 |
| ttx | Finally: monasca-ceilometer, monasca-log-api: Released in train but not released in ussuri nor victoria. Should be deprecated in governance? Ask Monsaca | 17:11 |
| hberaud | same thing | 17:12 |
| ttx | right | 17:12 |
| ttx | Then we have a bunch that are in deliverable files but no longer in project teams | 17:12 |
| ttx | enderspec, rpm-packaging, pymod2pkg: _independent deliverables from RPM Packaging team. Should be marked release-model: abandoned ? to be discussed as team policy | 17:12 |
| ttx | So they used to be a project team, now a SIG | 17:12 |
| ttx | We could make them "abandoned" but that would not be technically correct | 17:13 |
| hberaud | concerning the rpm-packaging stuff, I'm a core team member there so I'll bring that in the next meeting | 17:13 |
| ttx | we have no good answer for that scenario | 17:13 |
| ttx | In the past we did remove the files completely, so that they would not show as "abandoned" | 17:13 |
| hberaud | Yes it could be useful to clarify the situation with the TC about this scenario | 17:13 |
| ttx | Not sure that should involve the TC... It's about how we want those to show up in the releases website | 17:14 |
| hberaud | Maybe we should update a bit the SIG model to match this case | 17:14 |
| hberaud | ah I see | 17:14 |
| ttx | Newer releases will not appear in the site, so my preference is to remove them completely so that we do not list an old release | 17:14 |
| gmann | ttx: hberaud openstack-tempest-skiplist is under TripleO governance, may be we can ask marios or Chandan : https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/2bdd9cff00fb40b2f95b66cad47ae1cfd14a2f1b/reference/projects.yaml#L3069 | 17:15 |
| hberaud | So lemme discuss about with the team member, but the file removing seems a good option | 17:15 |
| ttx | and also so that they do not appear as "abandoned" | 17:15 |
| ttx | that is what we did for other SIG transitions. | 17:15 |
| hberaud | yes it could be misleading | 17:15 |
| ttx | basically make it look like it was produced by a SIG all the time. It's OK for _independenmt deliverables | 17:16 |
| ttx | If they were series deliverables we would keep them arounmd | 17:16 |
| hberaud | I see | 17:16 |
| ttx | Now that I think of it, it's the only good answer | 17:16 |
| ttx | and I remember that's how we handled the case last time it popped up | 17:17 |
| ttx | so.. maybe a non-issue. I'll file the file removals | 17:17 |
| hberaud | Ack, thanks | 17:17 |
| ttx | ok done | 17:17 |
| ttx | I'll add those tasks on next week | 17:17 |
| hberaud | Thanks, I already added few of them | 17:18 |
| hberaud | #topic Discussing Victoria Cycle-Trailing Release Deadline | 17:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussing Victoria Cycle-Trailing Release Deadline (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:19 | |
| hberaud | Nothing more to add | 17:19 |
| hberaud | I forgot to remove that section | 17:19 |
| hberaud | So we can move on | 17:19 |
| hberaud | #topic Encouraging projects to apply for tag 'assert:supports-api-interoperability' | 17:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Encouraging projects to apply for tag 'assert:supports-api-interoperability' (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:20 | |
| hberaud | You surely gmann's ML thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019814.html | 17:20 |
| hberaud | I've a couple of thinking/questions related to that | 17:20 |
| hberaud | Only Nova seems to support it for now and they start each new series with a new major version and that doesn't reflect this tag as a major version could mean that the backward compat is broken | 17:21 |
| hberaud | Do we need/want to clarify this point on our side? | 17:21 |
| hberaud | Do we should suggest a governance updates to reflect the semver part? This tag seems to have been introduced long time ago and AFAIK nobody complained about the semver part | 17:21 |
| hberaud | So to summarize do we want/need to raise our banner in this thread? | 17:22 |
| gmann | hberaud: this tag is for API versioning not the service versioning, we can see both are different. | 17:22 |
| ttx | not sure there is anything we should do... | 17:22 |
| hberaud | yes but as semver reflect this too maybe we have some grey area | 17:22 |
| gmann | in API versioning (this tag), we assert that all API changes happening should be under some version so that they can be discovered. | 17:23 |
| hberaud | ok | 17:23 |
| gmann | and versioning for API is quite open like it can be semver way or microversion way or anything else, as long as they are discoverable it is good | 17:24 |
| hberaud | As nobody complained previously I think we can continue like that | 17:24 |
| hberaud | ack | 17:24 |
| hberaud | Thanks for details | 17:24 |
| hberaud | fair enough | 17:25 |
| hberaud | #topic Tempest stein-last | 17:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest stein-last (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:25 | |
| hberaud | So 1) gmann documented the "-last" tags, 2) we proposed a patch to update our machinery accordingly 3) all patches have been updated accordingly to 1 and 2 | 17:26 |
| gmann | on 1st part, I just updated the project-team-guide patch with correct link, if you can check it again https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/769821 | 17:26 |
| hberaud | gmann: ack | 17:27 |
| gmann | and ttx ^^ | 17:27 |
| hberaud | As 2 depends-on 1 I think it is safe to start to approve 3 | 17:27 |
| hberaud | *safe enough | 17:27 |
| * hberaud look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/769821 | 17:28 | |
| ttx | +2 | 17:28 |
| gmann | thanks | 17:28 |
| hberaud | +1 | 17:29 |
| hberaud | Ok I think we can move on | 17:29 |
| hberaud | #topic The pip's resolver issue | 17:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "The pip's resolver issue (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:30 | |
| hberaud | Just a friendly reminder about the doc/pip issue, we are still in "orange" status | 17:30 |
| ttx | I would keep it that way until we can get the exception list a bit smaller | 17:31 |
| ttx | although.... | 17:31 |
| hberaud | +1 | 17:31 |
| hberaud | Can't hurt | 17:31 |
| ttx | maybe we should check which of those are under release-management | 17:31 |
| hberaud | Yes | 17:31 |
| ttx | Like for example we should not wait on openstack/api-site | 17:32 |
| ttx | since it's not released, so it should not block return to GREEN | 17:32 |
| * hberaud check the list | 17:32 | |
| ttx | So, maybe change the topic for the ones that are release-management:none | 17:32 |
| ttx | openstack/contributor-guide | 17:32 |
| * ttx does a quick check | 17:33 | |
| ttx | openstack/release-test | 17:33 |
| ttx | openstack/i18n | 17:33 |
| hberaud | I think that all the monasca* are under our scope | 17:34 |
| ttx | openstack/os-service-types | 17:34 |
| hberaud | and some of them are failing | 17:34 |
| hberaud | telemetry, solum too | 17:34 |
| hberaud | pycadf | 17:34 |
| ttx | the rest are "releasable" so the list is not empty yet | 17:34 |
| hberaud | Yes it's worth to stay Orange for now | 17:34 |
| ttx | could you update the topic on the ones we should not care about? | 17:35 |
| ttx | so that the list only contains ones we care about? | 17:35 |
| ttx | (from a green/orange standpoint) | 17:35 |
| hberaud | The list contains ~8-9 projects that we care about | 17:35 |
| hberaud | or maybe a bit more | 17:36 |
| ttx | I just listed the ones we should not care about | 17:36 |
| hberaud | awesome | 17:36 |
| ttx | contributor-guide release-test i18n os-service-types api-site | 17:37 |
| hberaud | I was thinking to generate a dedicated dashboard | 17:37 |
| hberaud | I'll reply on the ML to share them more widely | 17:38 |
| ttx | ok | 17:38 |
| hberaud | Ok move on | 17:39 |
| hberaud | #topic Assign R-12 tasks | 17:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Assign R-12 tasks (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:39 | |
| hberaud | Ok everything seems already assigned | 17:40 |
| hberaud | Any volunteer on some of them? | 17:40 |
| hberaud | Else, is not an issue and we can continue with that | 17:41 |
| hberaud | Ok move on | 17:42 |
| hberaud | #topic Review countdown email contents | 17:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review countdown email contents (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:42 | |
| hberaud | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 17:42 |
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| hberaud | I ignored a section of the email template | 17:43 |
| hberaud | And I proposed to remove her https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/770735 | 17:43 |
| hberaud | Let me know if it make sense to you, c.f the commit message for further details | 17:44 |
| ttx | ok | 17:44 |
| hberaud | I didn't see this list during victoria either | 17:45 |
| hberaud | (the project list) | 17:45 |
| hberaud | Any comment? | 17:47 |
| ttx | nope, content looks good | 17:47 |
| hberaud | ack, thanks | 17:47 |
| hberaud | then... | 17:47 |
| hberaud | #topic Open floor | 17:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open floor (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:47 | |
| hberaud | Anything else to discuss today? | 17:48 |
| ttx | I just approved the stein-last things that were ready | 17:48 |
| hberaud | thanks | 17:48 |
| elod | a heads-up from me maybe, | 17:48 |
| hberaud | elod: the floor is yours | 17:48 |
| elod | though train-em is far (05-12) | 17:48 |
| elod | (as I said before) I'm planning to generate train release patches | 17:49 |
| hberaud | We do you suggest? | 17:49 |
| elod | maybe some time after milestone-2? | 17:49 |
| hberaud | s/We/What/ | 17:49 |
| hberaud | LGTM | 17:50 |
| hberaud | Could be in February/March | 17:50 |
| hberaud | elod: Is it ok for you ^ | 17:50 |
| hberaud | ? | 17:50 |
| elod | I thought maybe end of next week, the week after :) | 17:50 |
| elod | so a bit sooner :) | 17:50 |
| hberaud | Yes | 17:51 |
| elod | but if you think I can wait with that till Feb or March | 17:51 |
| hberaud | What do you plan to release exactly? everything that need to be released? | 17:51 |
| elod | where there are unreleased patches, yes | 17:52 |
| hberaud | I mean all the changes not yet released? | 17:52 |
| elod | exactly | 17:52 |
| hberaud | So you're right ASAP could be better | 17:52 |
| elod | as smcginnis did in july (?) | 17:52 |
| hberaud | It will avoid loaded agenda | 17:52 |
| elod | hberaud: yes, ack | 17:53 |
| * hberaud check the agenda | 17:53 | |
| hberaud | Yes definitely, March will be FF and M3, and we will be heavy loaded | 17:54 |
| hberaud | +1 for M2 the week after | 17:55 |
| elod | hberaud: ack | 17:55 |
| elod | thanks, that's it :X | 17:55 |
| hberaud | elod: thanks to have bring that here | 17:55 |
| hberaud | Anything else? | 17:56 |
| hberaud | elod: Just one thing | 17:56 |
| hberaud | I think it could be worth to send a friendly reminder | 17:56 |
| hberaud | about that | 17:56 |
| elod | hberaud: ok | 17:57 |
| hberaud | elod: do you want to handle that as you did with stein? | 17:57 |
| hberaud | It will inform the teams that train will be released soon | 17:57 |
| elod | hberaud: just to be clear: this is not the 'final-release-before-[4~em' | 17:58 |
| elod | :) | 17:58 |
| hberaud | Yep | 17:58 |
| hberaud | But it could let's a chance to them to prioritize their reviews | 17:58 |
| hberaud | That's all for me | 17:59 |
| hberaud | OK, thanks everyone. Almost there! | 17:59 |
| hberaud | We consumed all our time | 17:59 |
| ttx | thanks hberaud ! | 17:59 |
| elod | thanks! | 18:00 |
| hberaud | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Release Managers office - Come here to discuss how to release OpenStack components - Logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 14 18:00:27 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-01-14-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-01-14-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-01-14-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
| elod | hberaud: so about steim-em, I'm planning to handle that, too, in may as I did with stein | 18:01 |
| elod | *May | 18:01 |
| hberaud | stein? train? | 18:01 |
| hberaud | train-em | 18:01 |
| hberaud | elod: awesome, thanks | 18:02 |
| elod | hberaud: so about train-em, I'm planning to handle that, too, in May as I did with stein | 18:02 |
| hberaud | :) | 18:02 |
| elod | this is how I wanted to write ^^^ | 18:02 |
| elod | :) | 18:02 |
| elod | sry | 18:02 |
| hberaud | 0np0 | 18:02 |
| hberaud | np | 18:02 |
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| iurygregory | hberaud, we can probably move on in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/769597 | 18:34 |
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| hberaud | iurygregory: ack thanks for the heads-up, ttx, smcginnis FYI ^ | 18:43 |
| hberaud | just need a final approval | 18:43 |
| iurygregory | not sure the patch didn't put +1 in the PTL label hehe | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: molteniron does not need releases https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/769597 | 21:30 |
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