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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: add cyborg release highlights https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/777967 | 10:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Add delete option to list_eol_stale_branches.sh https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/777446 | 11:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update list_eol_stale_branches.sh documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/778673 | 12:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Final release of octavia-lib for Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/778490 | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Reference `check-release-approval` in our doc https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/774091 | 16:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Add delete option to list_eol_stale_branches.sh https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/777446 | 16:13 |
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| hberaud | bauzas, gibi: o/ please can you have a look => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/777955 Thanks | 16:19 |
| bauzas | hberaud: sure, will do | 16:19 |
| hberaud | thanks | 16:19 |
| hberaud | ricolin: o/ Please can you have a look to => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/777964 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/777961 Thanks | 16:19 |
| hberaud | elod: o/ I added few words about EOL/EM/schedule/process in our PTG agenda https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/xena-ptg-os-relmgt | 16:37 |
| hberaud | Feel free to add related content | 16:37 |
| elod | hberaud: thanks, looking o/ | 16:40 |
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| hberaud | #startmeeting releaseteam | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 4 17:00:27 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 17:00 |
| hberaud | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 17:00 |
| hberaud | Ping list: ttx armstrong elod damani | 17:00 |
| armstrong | o/ | 17:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 17:00 |
| hberaud | We're way down on line 387 now. | 17:01 |
| elod | o/ | 17:01 |
| hberaud | Will just wait a couple minutes for folks. | 17:01 |
| hberaud | #topic Review task completion | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review task completion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:03 | |
| hberaud | Propose autoreleases for cycle-with-intermediary libraries => Done | 17:03 |
| hberaud | Few patches remains opened https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22wallaby-lib-freeze%22+(status:open) | 17:03 |
| hberaud | Some juste needs a final +2 | 17:04 |
| hberaud | Feel free to approve them | 17:04 |
| elod | even if there are no PTL-approved stamp on them? | 17:04 |
| hberaud | Only os-brick -1 | 17:04 |
| hberaud | nope wait for them | 17:05 |
| elod | ack | 17:05 |
| hberaud | We can wait until ~Monday | 17:05 |
| hberaud | Nova +1%2 | 17:05 |
| elod | anyway, will review those that have PTL-approved :) | 17:05 |
| hberaud | We wait for their PTL double check | 17:06 |
| hberaud | ack thanks elod | 17:06 |
| hberaud | ok next task | 17:06 |
| hberaud | Update the feature list and allowed stable branch names in devstack-gate => elod the floor is yours | 17:06 |
| elod | i've proposed the patch, | 17:06 |
| elod | added the question there, | 17:07 |
| elod | as it might be still needed by some jobs | 17:07 |
| elod | and added the folks as reviewers, who might know the answer :) | 17:07 |
| elod | anyway, I'll try to double-check myself + ping them | 17:08 |
| hberaud | Ok thanks | 17:08 |
| hberaud | Seems undercontrol :) | 17:08 |
| hberaud | #topic Assign R-5 tasks | 17:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Assign R-5 tasks (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:09 | |
| hberaud | I already cherry-picked few of them | 17:09 |
| hberaud | Evaluate any libraries that did not have any change merged over the cycle to see if it is time to transition them to the independent release model. | 17:09 |
| hberaud | Takers? | 17:09 |
| ttx | o/ | 17:10 |
| ttx | can do | 17:10 |
| hberaud | Thanks ttx | 17:10 |
| hberaud | List cycle-with-intermediary deliverables that have not been released yet | 17:10 |
| hberaud | Any volunteer? | 17:11 |
| armstrong | I will like to do that | 17:11 |
| hberaud | ok thanks armstrong I put our name | 17:11 |
| hberaud | s/our/your | 17:11 |
| armstrong | ok | 17:12 |
| hberaud | armstrong: do not hesitate to ping us if needed | 17:12 |
| armstrong | sure | 17:12 |
| hberaud | and the last one | 17:12 |
| hberaud | On Friday, remind the requirements team to freeze changes to openstack/requirements by applying -2 to all open patches. | 17:12 |
| hberaud | Takers? | 17:12 |
| hberaud | I take this one | 17:13 |
| hberaud | armstrong: FYI the "Propose autoreleases for cycle-with-intermediary client" task is mostly automatized, nothing more to see here | 17:15 |
| armstrong | ok | 17:15 |
| hberaud | armstrong: However we can run a peer session like the last one :) | 17:16 |
| hberaud | armstrong: I'll surely do that tomorrow, WFY? | 17:16 |
| armstrong | @hberaud sure, I really want to learn the process and tool more | 17:16 |
| hberaud | armstrong: sure np | 17:16 |
| hberaud | you are welcome | 17:17 |
| armstrong | Friday what time? | 17:17 |
| hberaud | ~2 pm UTC WFY? | 17:17 |
| armstrong | ok sounds good | 17:18 |
| hberaud | awesome then see you here around 2 pm | 17:18 |
| hberaud | #topic Review countdown email contents | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review countdown email contents (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:18 | |
| hberaud | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 17:18 |
| hberaud | Good catch | 17:21 |
| ttx | fixed two typos, looks good | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: fix typos https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/778755 | 17:22 |
| hberaud | ttx: fixed there too ^ | 17:23 |
| hberaud | #topic Xena's PTL election | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Xena's PTL election (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:23 | |
| ttx | all bow to our fearless leader | 17:23 |
| elod | indeed :) | 17:23 |
| hberaud | Aw, shucks. :-) | 17:24 |
| hberaud | So as you already know I proposed my candidature again | 17:24 |
| ttx | https://gph.is/g/aeAr3K5 | 17:24 |
| hberaud | lolit's too much honor | 17:25 |
| hberaud | Ok thanks | 17:25 |
| elod | :D | 17:25 |
| hberaud | #topic PTG | 17:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:25 | |
| hberaud | New series = new PTG | 17:26 |
| hberaud | Maybe it's a bit early but I already init our next etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/xena-ptg-os-relmgt | 17:26 |
| hberaud | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/xena-ptg-os-relmgt | 17:26 |
| hberaud | We (elod and myself) already added content to our next agenda | 17:27 |
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| hberaud | I think that we want to run a virtual PTG, what do you think about this point? | 17:27 |
| hberaud | (session) | 17:28 |
| ttx | yes, short one but yes | 17:28 |
| elod | +1 | 17:28 |
| hberaud | Ok I'll update as soon as I'll know the available time slots | 17:29 |
| hberaud | #topic Open Floor | 17:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Floor (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:29 | |
| hberaud | Anything else for this week? | 17:29 |
| elod | nothing from me, I think | 17:30 |
| fungi | infrastructure situation... we've temporarily suspended static site updates due to a possible problem with one or more cinder volumes, i need to get back to investigating once meetings calm down | 17:30 |
| fungi | you'll see things like the tarballs site and release notes staying outdated for a bit longer | 17:30 |
| fungi | releases site too | 17:30 |
| hberaud | fungi: Thanks for the heads up | 17:30 |
| ttx | noted, thanks | 17:30 |
| hberaud | I think we will be poke ASAP by the RDO folks | 17:31 |
| fungi | unrelated, when/where would be a good time to talk about periodic stable branch jobs? is that more the realm of the em sig? or qa team? | 17:31 |
| hberaud | good question, I would say qa | 17:32 |
| fungi | i've noticed that for a while i get 80+ failure e-mails on the stable-maint ml every day (and 120+ on sundays) | 17:32 |
| hberaud | elod: any idea? ^ | 17:32 |
| fungi | just trying to figure out if anybody's actually paying attention to those notifications, or if we can get rid of that ml | 17:32 |
| elod | fungi: i guess that's more of a stable SIG thing, but... :) | 17:32 |
| fungi | oh, is there a stable sig too? | 17:32 |
| fungi | i was only aware of the extended maintenance sig | 17:33 |
| elod | yes, stable team turned to stable SIG, but I think mostly me and smcginnis were active in stable channels | 17:33 |
| elod | err, yes, EM SIG | 17:33 |
| elod | sorry o:) | 17:33 |
| fungi | oh, i see, the sig is named "extended maintenance" but covers maintained stable branches as well | 17:34 |
| elod | yes | 17:34 |
| fungi | okay, thanks, should i bring the topic up on openstack-discuss or does the em sig have regular meetings? | 17:34 |
| elod | and I'm usually looking at the failures there | 17:34 |
| elod | no regular meeting | 17:34 |
| fungi | oh, well if someone's using those then that's fine. it's a *lot* of e-mails though, and i wonder if they're all necessary | 17:34 |
| elod | so maybe the openstack-discuss is the best to get attention, maybe i should have done that already :/ | 17:35 |
| fungi | that ml generates far more traffic than openstack-discuss ;) | 17:35 |
| hberaud | :) | 17:35 |
| fungi | okay, i'll bring it up there. thanks | 17:35 |
| fungi | and sorry for derailing the release meeting with stable maint stuff | 17:35 |
| hberaud | np :) | 17:36 |
| hberaud | Anything else? | 17:36 |
| hberaud | fungi: you're welcome! | 17:36 |
| hberaud | 1 | 17:37 |
| hberaud | 2 | 17:37 |
| hberaud | 3 | 17:37 |
| hberaud | considered sold! | 17:37 |
| hberaud | OK, thanks everyone. Almost there! | 17:38 |
| hberaud | #endmeeting | 17:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Release Managers office - Come here to discuss how to release OpenStack components - Logged at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/" | 17:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 4 17:38:29 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-03-04-17.00.html | 17:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-03-04-17.00.txt | 17:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-03-04-17.00.log.html | 17:38 |
| elod | thanks hberaud o/ | 17:38 |
| armstrong | thanks @hberaud | 17:39 |
| elod | fungi: about the stable-maint: the main reason fo the periodic job failures is a wrong release of bandit (somehow pip2.7 picks up the py3 only package and fails), and at first most of the folk (or just me?) thought that will be fixed :/ | 17:40 |
| elod | fungi: after ~1 month I started to propose workarounds, so now the mails "dropped" from 100+ to ~80 :) | 17:41 |
| elod | fungi: but it's still less than ideal :/ | 17:41 |
| fungi | i suspect the "somehow" is because of running with old versions of pip which lack support for the metadata | 17:42 |
| fungi | we worked around that with constraints entries for other deps, but i think we don't constrain bandit so have to put similar pyver-specific caps into requirements lists | 17:42 |
| elod | actually I don't know, because those jobs are damaged by the new pip release with the new resolver, but I might be wrong | 17:43 |
| fungi | in each affected branch of each affected project | 17:43 |
| elod | fungi: yes, that's the issue, so my workaround is exactly like that: constrain bandit in the repos instead of in openstack/requirements | 17:44 |
| fungi | picking failures at random from that ml i'm not coming across a good example yet. so far i keep finding random unit test failures | 17:47 |
| elod | fungi: somehting completely different (or loosly coupled o:)) that I've modified the EOL branch removing script, if you could review it whenever you get there (I know you are busy with other things :/), so that would be awesome: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/777446 | 17:47 |
| elod | fungi: ^^^ this would also remove some stable-maint mails, by the way ;) | 17:48 |
| elod | fungi: as there are some *-eol branch that has failing stable-periodic job :/ | 17:48 |
| fungi | absolutely! there's also a list of eols ykarel posted to the openstack-discuss ml | 17:48 |
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| elod | fungi: I can show you some bandit faulure, let me copy one | 17:49 |
| elod | fungi: e.g.: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/4383f55267094a6589cb499b33cb453d | 17:50 |
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| elod | or from train: https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/1544c7ab1684447ea23700e36f091351 | 17:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Reference `check-release-approval` in our doc https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/774091 | 17:54 |
| elod | fungi: 'pip2 install bandit' fails even with pip 20.3.1 (py2 support is not yet removed there, if I'm not mistaken) -- http://paste.openstack.org/show/803237/ | 17:55 |
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| elod | fungi: sorry, my mistake, pip2 is still 9.0.1... ignore me :X | 17:59 |
| elod | :/ | 17:59 |
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| elod | fungi: well, upgraded that, too, now if i haven't made any mistake, then the issue is still there with 20.3.1 pip2. (python2 support of pip will disappear with pip 21.0) | 18:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: fix typos https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/778755 | 18:08 |
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| fungi | elod: yeah, so for that first example there, you're going to need to cap bandit at https://opendev.org/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/src/branch/stable/stein/test-requirements.txt#L15 | 18:50 |
| fungi | we normally recommend projects cap their linters, since using newer linters on a stable branch doesn't make sense | 18:51 |
| fungi | looks like that project didn't, at least not back in stein | 18:51 |
| fungi | i would consider this fairly representative of the sorts of problems you should expect with uncapped linters | 18:51 |
| fungi | we avoid it with normal dependencies and test tools by putting them in an upper constraints list, but since different projects don't standardize on the same linter versions we intentionally exclude those from constraints | 18:52 |
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| elod | fungi: I exactly did that, but I'm not yet end of the list ( https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%2522cap-bandit-1.6.2%2522+status:merged -- these all had failing periodic jobs ;) and there are still 56 'bandit' related job failure, for example, in today's stable-maint mail pack :S ) | 19:02 |
| elod | so around half of the failing periodic jobs has this root cause | 19:07 |
| fungi | sounds likely, yep | 19:09 |
| fungi | i'm guessing we had a terminology mismatch in guidance, what we really should have been telling projects is that any (test-)requirement which was not included in upper-constraints.txt should be aggressively capped in each repository where it's used | 19:10 |
| fungi | bandit happens to be one where it was, i suppose, common not to cap even though it was excluded from constraints, but there are likely others lurking | 19:11 |
| elod | hmmm, true. actually, maybe some project followed that guidance as we don't have many hundred failures :) to look on the bright side :D | 19:16 |
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