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| ykarel | fungi, the tarballs are still not available https://tarballs.opendev.org/openstack/barbican-tempest-plugin/?C=M;O=D and https://tarballs.opendev.org/openstack/manila-tempest-plugin/?C=M;O=D for example | 03:55 |
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| brinzhang | hello, team, when is the Wallaby release of DDL? | 06:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/releases master: Creating stable wallaby for ironic https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/783696 | 07:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/releases master: Release Nova Wallaby RC2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784201 | 07:17 |
| hberaud | brinzhang: https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html#w-final | 07:22 |
| brinzhang | hberaud: ack, thanks | 07:25 |
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| elod | hberaud: fyi, today I'll be mostly AFK and there is a chance that I'll miss today's release meeting :S but I'll try to be there... | 08:41 |
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| ttx | hberaud: are we all good with stable branches? i.e. can I approve the devstack/grenade branching? | 08:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Clarifying how to deal with tempest-plugin during series https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/783410 | 08:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Add release notes links for Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784210 | 09:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Puppet OpenStack Wallaby RC1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784014 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Creating stable wallaby for ironic https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/783696 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Release Octavia Wallaby RC2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784139 | 09:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Make a stable/victoria release for all the tripleo things https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/783707 | 09:07 |
| hberaud | elod: ack | 09:37 |
| hberaud | ttx: let me check | 09:38 |
| hberaud | ttx: but AFAIk as I know all stars are now aligned | 09:38 |
| hberaud | ttx: Well, I would argue that we are good to go https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:qa-wallaby-release | 09:44 |
| hberaud | ttx: All PTLs have been "friendly reminded", all stable branches are now there, all QA patches (devstack and grenade job) are waiting for us, and the reqs are ready for branching too | 09:46 |
| hberaud | Fire! | 09:46 |
| hberaud | requirements still refer to the HEAD of their repo | 09:48 |
| hberaud | prometheanfire: I think that now we are good to go, please can validate this patch just to ensure that everything is ok for you => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/779832 | 09:55 |
| ttx | ok looking | 09:57 |
| hberaud | thanks | 09:57 |
| ttx | I'll run a few checks for my peace of mind :) | 09:57 |
| hberaud | sure | 09:57 |
| hberaud | np I prefer check twice than miss something | 09:58 |
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| ttx | hberaud: ok my only question/confusion would be around tagless things like openstack-ansible-roles and devstack-plugin-kafka | 10:04 |
| hberaud | What's the question? | 10:04 |
| ttx | hberaud: openstack-ansible-roles had a stable/victoria branch defined | 10:04 |
| ttx | it's not "trailing" | 10:04 |
| * hberaud look | 10:04 | |
| ttx | so should it have its stable/wallaby branch cut? | 10:04 |
| ttx | Re: devstack-plugin-kafka it used to have a stable branch cut until ussuri, but we did not cut one in victoria. Same for devstack-plugin-amqp1 and devstack-plugin-container | 10:05 |
| ttx | I know I'm confused by those every time | 10:05 |
| ttx | It's probably not worth holding grenade/devstack since this are pretty peripheral, but still, would be good to clarify | 10:06 |
| hberaud | so for openstack-ansible-role it have been tagged a posteriori => https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/commit/e838bcf0036c5814aa0d9962d8fd1d49967af619 | 10:07 |
| hberaud | more or less like trailing projects | 10:07 |
| ttx | should it just be set to trailing then? | 10:07 |
| hberaud | yes maybe we should consider that point | 10:07 |
| ttx | probably worth a discussion at the meeting, will add | 10:07 |
| hberaud | I'm not fan of ambiguity | 10:08 |
| hberaud | yes thanks | 10:08 |
| hberaud | or maybe simply propose a patch directly and then start discusting that point with PTL | 10:09 |
| ttx | Re: devstack-plugin-kafka it used to have a stable branch cut until ussuri, but we did not cut one in victoria. Same for devstack-plugin-amqp1 and devstack-plugin-container | 10:09 |
| * hberaud look devstack-plugin-* | 10:09 | |
| ttx | like essentially it was not released in victoria. Should we just drop it then? | 10:09 |
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| ttx | or make it release-manageemnt:none? | 10:10 |
| ttx | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/723700 is relevant to taht discussion (it's the last time those were released/branched | 10:12 |
| ttx | like bnemec said "We had agreed to stop branching the oslo.messaging devstack plugins because there wasn't enough activity to justify the effort" | 10:12 |
| ttx | and so we did not branch them in victoria | 10:13 |
| hberaud | so d-p-(kafka|amqp1) are under the oslo's umbrella, I'm not aware of their retirements for now | 10:13 |
| hberaud | few months ago kguisti retirered zmq and pika | 10:14 |
| hberaud | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/016212.html | 10:14 |
| ttx | just approved the devstack/grenade branching patches | 10:14 |
| hberaud | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/016214.html | 10:14 |
| hberaud | so I think we should keep them for now | 10:14 |
| hberaud | and first start a discussion with oslo | 10:14 |
| ttx | should we branch them for victoria before we branch them for wallaby? | 10:14 |
| hberaud | I would argue that yes | 10:15 |
| ttx | We can make up SHAs | 10:15 |
| ttx | I guess my question is why this escapes process every time :) | 10:15 |
| ttx | probably being tagless | 10:15 |
| hberaud | concerning d-p-container I don't know it's state | 10:15 |
| hberaud | good question | 10:15 |
| ttx | we might need an process entry to remember to do them as we do devstack itself | 10:16 |
| hberaud | yes | 10:16 |
| ttx | I'll add a meeting note | 10:16 |
| hberaud | yes I think it's due to the tagless stuff | 10:16 |
| hberaud | I think that we are in a grey area | 10:17 |
| hberaud | and our commands doesn't detect them | 10:17 |
| ttx | ok noted | 10:17 |
| hberaud | I think this is why we skipped branching for them | 10:17 |
| hberaud | I didn't see significant activity on kafka and amqp1 since awhile now | 10:18 |
| hberaud | I'll propose a patch to add these devstack stuff at R-2 in our process | 10:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Create stable/wallaby for devstack https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784132 | 10:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Create stable/wallaby for grenade https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784134 | 10:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Improve R-3 and R-2 documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784103 | 10:39 |
| hberaud | devstack-plugin process added through ^ | 10:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Improve R-3 and R-2 documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784103 | 10:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Branch devstack-plugin-* deliverables https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784371 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Branch devstack-plugin-* deliverables https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784376 | 11:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Branch devstack-plugin-* deliverables for Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784376 | 11:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Branch devstack-plugin-* deliverables for Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784371 | 11:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Moving OSA roles to trailing project https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784378 | 11:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Moving OSA roles to trailing projects https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784378 | 11:58 |
| hberaud | ttx: Well, I think that all our previous inconscistences are addressed by this couple of patches ^ | 11:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784384 | 12:20 |
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| fungi | ykarel: yes, we're still waiting on the new remote volume to finish syncing so we have better redundancy. i guess in a few minutes i'll work on a patch to switch to serving tarballs from the read-write path while we wait for the sync process to complete. we didn't expect it to take nearly so long to replicate all the tarball content 1500km | 12:57 |
| ykarel | fungi, ok Thanks for the update, yes if it takes time switching should help | 12:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Rajat Dhasmana proposed openstack/releases master: Cinder stable/victoria release for os-brick https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784394 | 13:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin Kopec proposed openstack/releases master: Add releasenotes link for Tempest 27.0.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784426 | 14:29 |
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| prometheanfire | hberaud: voted, looks good (reqs branching) | 14:43 |
| hberaud | excellent | 14:43 |
| hberaud | ttx: We are now good to go with the reqs branching, it just need a final +2 | 14:44 |
| ttx | on it | 14:45 |
| hberaud | thanks | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Martin Kopec proposed openstack/releases master: Add releasenotes link for Patrole 0.12.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784431 | 14:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marios Andreou proposed openstack/releases master: Make tripleo repos release for stable/ussuri branch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784124 | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: add branch for openstack requirements https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/779832 | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Making devstack-plugin-* branchless https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784376 | 15:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Making devstack-plugin-* branchless https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784376 | 16:00 |
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| diablo_rojo | o/ | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Making devstack-plugin-* branchless https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784376 | 16:02 |
| hberaud | diablo_rojo: o/ | 16:06 |
| prometheanfire | k, I'm gonna send an email to say reqs is out of freeze sometime today | 16:07 |
| hberaud | prometheanfire: fire! | 16:07 |
| hberaud | thanks | 16:07 |
| hberaud | patch is now merged | 16:07 |
| prometheanfire | yarp | 16:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marios Andreou proposed openstack/releases master: Make tripleo repos release for stable/train branch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784445 | 16:23 |
| hberaud | #startmeeting releaseteam | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 1 17:00:06 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hberaud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 17:00 |
| armstrong | o/ | 17:00 |
| hberaud | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 17:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 17:00 |
| hberaud | Ping list: ttx armstrong elod damani | 17:00 |
| hberaud | We're way down on line 539 now. | 17:00 |
| hberaud | Will just wait a couple minutes for folks. | 17:00 |
| elod | o/ | 17:00 |
| hberaud | #topic Review task completion | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review task completion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:03 | |
| hberaud | So | 17:03 |
| hberaud | The majority of our tasks are now done, everything is branched, QA stuffs are branched, and reqs are branched too, every PTLs have been "friendly reminded", we don't have exceptions from last week | 17:03 |
| hberaud | I think we can jump directly to... | 17:03 |
| hberaud | Release notes links addition (ttx): https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784210 | 17:03 |
| hberaud | How many time we waited before merging this kind of patch during previous series? | 17:04 |
| ttx | I think we can merge it immediately | 17:05 |
| hberaud | I see that Sean already approved | 17:05 |
| hberaud | and many PTL approved | 17:05 |
| hberaud | WFM | 17:05 |
| ttx | IIRC there might be another round needed around releases in case other release notes make it | 17:05 |
| hberaud | Slawek leave questions | 17:05 |
| hberaud | ttx: do you want to answer them before merging? | 17:05 |
| hberaud | s/leave/left/ | 17:06 |
| ttx | I'm not sure what te answer is :) | 17:06 |
| hberaud | hm | 17:06 |
| hberaud | lol | 17:06 |
| hberaud | lot of other deliverable are in the same case | 17:07 |
| ttx | The tool is supposed to select the ones that have release notes | 17:07 |
| ttx | (afaik) | 17:07 |
| hberaud | maybe we need to open a bug | 17:07 |
| ttx | maybe we can check how the tool is supposed to work and why it picked empty notes | 17:08 |
| ttx | ah | 17:08 |
| hberaud | or store that question somewhere to address it ASAP | 17:08 |
| hberaud | yes | 17:08 |
| ttx | I think it checks for existence of the HTML file | 17:08 |
| ttx | not whether the file contains actual info | 17:08 |
| hberaud | ah | 17:08 |
| hberaud | that could explain why | 17:08 |
| ttx | anyway, let's pause and check | 17:08 |
| hberaud | yes | 17:09 |
| ttx | That patch tends to conflict fast with RC2 requests though | 17:09 |
| ttx | so we should clarify fast | 17:09 |
| hberaud | yes | 17:09 |
| ttx | maybe add a task for it and assign it to me | 17:09 |
| hberaud | sold! | 17:09 |
| ttx | ok adding it myself, you can continue | 17:10 |
| hberaud | ok | 17:10 |
| hberaud | thanks | 17:10 |
| hberaud | So I think that we can move on directly to the next topic | 17:11 |
| hberaud | #topic Assign R-1 tasks | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Assign R-1 tasks (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:11 | |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/releases master: Cinder stable/victoria release for os-brick https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784394 | 17:11 |
| hberaud | done | 17:12 |
| hberaud | I put my name everywhere | 17:12 |
| armstrong | hberaud: great! | 17:12 |
| ttx | +1 | 17:12 |
| ttx | we don;t have any stable branching exception left right | 17:13 |
| hberaud | yes | 17:13 |
| hberaud | #topic Review countdown email contents | 17:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review countdown email contents (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:14 | |
| hberaud | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 17:14 |
| ttx | LGTM | 17:15 |
| hberaud | I didn't find the summit date on openinfra site, that's normal? | 17:15 |
| fungi | i don't think it's been scheduled yet? | 17:15 |
| hberaud | even if it will be virtual | 17:15 |
| hberaud | ok | 17:15 |
| hberaud | no idea | 17:15 |
| fungi | also remember they've switched to yearly | 17:15 |
| hberaud | ah yes | 17:16 |
| hberaud | so next summit will be in october | 17:16 |
| fungi | probably, or around then | 17:16 |
| armstrong | but the next events is coming up soon right? Or only PTG? | 17:16 |
| hberaud | armstrong: Yes PTG is on the week of April 19. | 17:17 |
| fungi | ptg yes. i think the events team has some other ideas for event-ish things too | 17:17 |
| fungi | but nothing nailed down yet | 17:17 |
| hberaud | ack | 17:17 |
| hberaud | ok next topic | 17:17 |
| hberaud | #topic openstack-ansible-roles is tagged/branched late, and yet it's not "trailing". Should it be? | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack-ansible-roles is tagged/branched late, and yet it's not "trailing". Should it be? (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:18 | |
| ttx | I have no idea why it's not trailing | 17:18 |
| hberaud | So, I proposed a patch to stick the OSA parent project deliverable type | 17:18 |
| ttx | maybe OSA folks know :) | 17:18 |
| fungi | i had thought all deployment projects were cycle-trailing, honestly | 17:18 |
| hberaud | I didn't see reason to not be trailing there | 17:19 |
| hberaud | me too | 17:19 |
| hberaud | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784378 | 17:19 |
| hberaud | whois yoctozepto | 17:19 |
| * yoctozepto is me | 17:19 | |
| hberaud | lol | 17:19 |
| ttx | no I'm yoctozepto! | 17:19 |
| fungi | he's not wrong | 17:19 |
| yoctozepto | lol | 17:20 |
| hberaud | any idea ^ | 17:20 |
| ttx | I think it really does not matter | 17:20 |
| ttx | trailing is more accurate imho | 17:20 |
| ttx | would avoid it shoewing up in reports | 17:20 |
| hberaud | ok | 17:20 |
| fungi | i guess the question is whether yoctozepto knows why osa is not cycle-trailing like other deployment projects, but trails the cycle | 17:20 |
| fungi | but regardless, sounds like it should be switched to cycle-trailing | 17:21 |
| yoctozepto | no idea, I work on kolla, we are in friendly relations with other deployment projects though (/me fixing docs links and such) | 17:21 |
| hberaud | yoctozepto: ok np | 17:22 |
| yoctozepto | I agree osa should be marked appropriately ;-) | 17:22 |
| hberaud | ok let's wait for OSA team feedback | 17:22 |
| yoctozepto | noonedeadpunk ^ | 17:23 |
| hberaud | ok let's discuss that point directly on the patch | 17:25 |
| ttx | yeah not urgent | 17:25 |
| hberaud | thanks everyone | 17:25 |
| hberaud | #topic devstack-plugin-* are tagless and escape process every cycle. | 17:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "devstack-plugin-* are tagless and escape process every cycle. (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:25 | |
| hberaud | We should fix process to remember to branch them as we branch devstack | 17:25 |
| hberaud | I started a thread about the oslo part of this puzzle => http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-April/021513.html | 17:25 |
| hberaud | The QA team said that usually devstack-plugin-* are branchless too | 17:26 |
| hberaud | but that depends on if plugin needs specific config or not | 17:26 |
| hberaud | From the oslo point of view we don't think that we need special config so no reason to branch anymore | 17:27 |
| hberaud | However | 17:27 |
| hberaud | I proposed a last branch for Victoria | 17:27 |
| hberaud | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784371 | 17:28 |
| hberaud | and I proposed to remove these deliverable on wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784376 | 17:28 |
| hberaud | bnemec said that " I guess when we chose to stop branching them we didn't realize we needed to remove the deliverable files completely." | 17:29 |
| hberaud | I also proposed a patch to update our process if we decide to keep them around => https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784103 | 17:30 |
| fungi | makes sense that there's no point in the release managers tracking a deliverable which does not get tagged or branched | 17:30 |
| hberaud | But if we stop branch them I'll update that patch to drop that section | 17:30 |
| ttx | ok | 17:31 |
| hberaud | The main question is | 17:31 |
| hberaud | Do we want to branch for Victoria? | 17:31 |
| hberaud | If we don't address the victoria part that will leave an inconsistence | 17:32 |
| hberaud | So | 17:32 |
| hberaud | Either we branch it or we drop these file too | 17:32 |
| hberaud | Any opinion? | 17:32 |
| elod | is there a reason not to drop? | 17:33 |
| hberaud | Nope | 17:33 |
| hberaud | Nobody complained until now | 17:33 |
| hberaud | Ok I'll update the Victoria part to drop these files | 17:34 |
| hberaud | and drop the process section | 17:34 |
| elod | then I guess we can drop them and ask bnemec for a final ACK? :) | 17:34 |
| hberaud | LGTM | 17:34 |
| hberaud | So I think that we can move on | 17:35 |
| bnemec | Technically you need hberaud's ack since he's the release liaison. ;-) | 17:35 |
| elod | oh, then it's even better :) | 17:36 |
| hberaud | Yes I need to update my email due to the recent gerrit changes | 17:36 |
| hberaud | This is why it didn't have been PTL approved yet | 17:36 |
| hberaud | Thanks bnemec | 17:37 |
| bnemec | I commented on the reviews though. | 17:37 |
| hberaud | Yes thanks | 17:37 |
| hberaud | #topic Open Floor | 17:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Floor (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 17:37 | |
| hberaud | Anything else to discuss today? | 17:38 |
| ttx | no! Dinenr awaits | 17:38 |
| ttx | Dinner even | 17:38 |
| hberaud | Bon appétit | 17:38 |
| elod | bon appétit :) | 17:38 |
| ttx | thanks hberaud ! Almost there! | 17:38 |
| hberaud | Same thing here | 17:38 |
| hberaud | Just one thing | 17:39 |
| hberaud | Don't forget to vote for the next meeting time | 17:39 |
| armstrong | vote for what? | 17:39 |
| hberaud | The next meeting time => https://doodle.com/poll/ip6tg4fvznz7p3qx | 17:40 |
| hberaud | That's all for me | 17:40 |
| armstrong | ok | 17:40 |
| hberaud | Ok thanks everyone for joining | 17:41 |
| hberaud | And enjoy your dinner | 17:41 |
| elod | o/ | 17:41 |
| hberaud | Let's wrap up. | 17:41 |
| hberaud | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 1 17:41:45 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-04-01-17.00.html | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-04-01-17.00.txt | 17:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2021/releaseteam.2021-04-01-17.00.log.html | 17:41 |
| elod | bon appétit hberaud :) | 17:41 |
| hberaud | Merci elod | 17:42 |
| fungi | by the way, i merged a change to switch the tarballs site to serving the read-write volume until we're finished syncing the new replica we've added | 17:42 |
| fungi | it's not deployed yet, but should be shortly | 17:42 |
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| hberaud | ack | 18:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Douglas Mendizábal proposed openstack/releases master: Release Barbican Wallaby RC2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/784468 | 18:57 |
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