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hberaud | yoctozepto: missing branches will be created soon | 06:32 |
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yoctozepto | hberaud: oh, great! you really have thought this through! /me sorry for bothering now :D | 06:35 |
hberaud | yoctozepto: no problem really! | 06:36 |
hberaud | yoctozepto: you don't bothered me and I prefer you ask me questions and that we don't miss something that the contrary | 06:37 |
hberaud | yoctozepto: I confirm we will create those missing stable branches next week https://releases.openstack.org/reference/process.html#r-2-week | 06:38 |
hberaud | and so you'll receive those patch who move testing to yoga | 06:39 |
yoctozepto | hberaud: thank you! very kind of you | 06:39 |
hberaud | you are welcome :) | 06:39 |
hberaud | ttx: o/ | 07:39 |
hberaud | ttx: are you around? | 07:39 |
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opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release cyborg-tempest-plugin for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808781 | 10:23 |
opendevreview | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/releases master: Release OpenStack-Ansible Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808924 | 10:36 |
opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/releases master: Proposing Xena RC1 for masakari-monitors https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808641 | 11:23 |
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ttx | hberaud: hola | 12:39 |
ttx | que tal | 12:41 |
lajoskatona | Hi, I have a licensing related question, not sure if on the right place :-) | 12:43 |
ttx | lajoskatona: probably not but we can redirect | 12:43 |
lajoskatona | In Neutron we have a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1916428 ) about dibler is deprecated and change the ipv6 pd driver | 12:43 |
ttx | looking | 12:45 |
lajoskatona | the suggestion from dibbler developer to use Kea (https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/kea ) but that is MPL2.0 licensed, and not sure if we can go for it | 12:45 |
lajoskatona | ttx: thanks in advance :-) | 12:45 |
ttx | let me see if we have a precedent | 12:46 |
lajoskatona | ttx: thanks | 12:46 |
ttx | we have pytest-html and ldappool in global requirements that are MPL-2.0 | 12:47 |
ttx | So this is probably fine, but you might want to doublecheck with the TC or on a openstack-discuss thread | 12:47 |
lajoskatona | ttx: ok, perhaps I write a mail with TC in the header :-) | 12:48 |
ttx | +1 | 12:48 |
ttx | also IANAL | 12:48 |
ttx | obligatory disclaimer | 12:49 |
hberaud | ttx: I was thinking about those client-lib unreleased (that I ignored 2 weeks ago) | 12:56 |
hberaud | here is the list of these deliverables and of the current state of these repos => https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/client-library-delta | 12:56 |
hberaud | I decided to ignore those deliverables either because no changes were merged or the only changes available are changes like moving testing from wallaby to xena etc... | 12:57 |
ttx | I suspect we'll need a noop release anyway | 12:58 |
hberaud | I think it would be worth to ignore them to reflect to real activity of these repo (low activity) | 12:58 |
hberaud | even for those who don't have any changes? | 12:58 |
ttx | We'll need a stable/xena branch for future backports | 12:59 |
hberaud | My main concern is mostly about stable branch creation | 12:59 |
hberaud | yes | 12:59 |
hberaud | that's the point | 12:59 |
ttx | and I'm not 100% sure we can branch on the xena deliverable file without a release in the same file | 12:59 |
hberaud | I was thinking creating it from the latest available tag | 12:59 |
ttx | I think not releasing will cause issues | 12:59 |
hberaud | or from the sha | 12:59 |
ttx | like... which version should I run | 12:59 |
ttx | Imagine a practical case | 12:59 |
hberaud | yes | 12:59 |
hberaud | ok for those with changes | 13:00 |
ttx | We have a stable/wallaby 1.7.3 release | 13:00 |
hberaud | but for those without any changes? | 13:00 |
ttx | There is a critical bug to fix | 13:00 |
ttx | after Xena is released | 13:00 |
ttx | How do you do that | 13:00 |
ttx | if you just release 1.7.4 on stable/wallaby nobody on Xena knows they should be running it | 13:01 |
hberaud | Yes I see | 13:01 |
ttx | so you need a Xena branch | 13:01 |
ttx | now... you could branch from 1.7.3 | 13:01 |
ttx | but then... where do you craete that 1.7.4 | 13:01 |
ttx | If you create it in the Xena file, then the wallaby-tracking folks don;t hear about it | 13:01 |
hberaud | Ok let me create those missing tags | 13:01 |
ttx | etc etc | 13:01 |
hberaud | I see | 13:01 |
ttx | It's silly but simpler to keep the doc in sync | 13:02 |
ttx | rather than explain exceptions all over | 13:02 |
ttx | It's safe to do it now becaus ethere were no real changes anyway | 13:02 |
ttx | although we'll need to adjust the xena requirements to match the new versioning | 13:03 |
ttx | so might be good to put prometheanfire in the loop | 13:03 |
hberaud | indeed | 13:03 |
ttx | But the lesson is, we shoudl always release at least once | 13:03 |
ttx | obviously if there was no change we should not do a milestone release | 13:03 |
ttx | but for the final we need a minor bump at minimum | 13:04 |
ttx | the only alternative is to switch to independent | 13:04 |
hberaud | it's a bit late to switch from a model to another | 13:06 |
hberaud | (IMO) | 13:06 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final keystoneauth for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808941 | 13:12 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-adjutantclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808942 | 13:13 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-aodhclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808944 | 13:13 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-barbicanclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808946 | 13:14 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-freezerclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808947 | 13:14 |
ttx | agreed | 13:15 |
ttx | Need to go offline for travel. ttyl | 13:15 |
hberaud | ttx: enjoy your travel | 13:15 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-keystoneclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808948 | 13:15 |
hberaud | ttx: the series ^ | 13:15 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-masakariclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808949 | 13:16 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-muranoclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808950 | 13:17 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-saharaclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808951 | 13:17 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-solumclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808952 | 13:18 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-zaqarclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808954 | 13:18 |
hberaud | yoctozepto: FYI ^ | 13:19 |
hberaud | yoctozepto: here is your corresponding patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808949 | 13:19 |
hberaud | (see the previous discussion) | 13:19 |
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yoctozepto | hberaud: thanks; seems my worries were justified after all | 14:08 |
hberaud | yoctozepto: yes :) | 14:08 |
yoctozepto | hberaud: happens :-) glad we will sort it out sooner than later :D | 14:10 |
hberaud | :) | 14:10 |
opendevreview | Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/releases master: Proposing Xena RC1 for placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808713 | 14:14 |
yoctozepto | hberaud: I left a comment on that proposal - I think a major version bump would be safer in general; I know there are no new features client-wise but something may make me want to bump minor at some point | 14:24 |
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hberaud | yoctozepto: I don't think that we want releasing a major version on a stable branch... masakari doesn't follow the stable branch policy (https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/stable_follows-policy.html) so you could backport feature and then iterate over minor releases at least. I mean major version, especially without significant changes like here could mislead lot of | 14:36 |
hberaud | people. | 14:36 |
yoctozepto | hberaud: I mean it's for first in xena | 14:37 |
yoctozepto | I actually find it quite the opposite | 14:37 |
hberaud | ah | 14:37 |
hberaud | I see | 14:37 |
yoctozepto | major version bumps aligned with release cycles | 14:37 |
yoctozepto | and then regular minors | 14:37 |
yoctozepto | etc. | 14:37 |
yoctozepto | k | 14:37 |
yoctozepto | ok* | 14:37 |
hberaud | but the problem remain the same... we release nothing more than "git review" and tox update for xena. | 14:38 |
hberaud | and usually masakari always started new series with a minor version | 14:41 |
yoctozepto | yeah, but I think it hurts version visibility | 14:41 |
yoctozepto | I know interpretation concerns | 14:42 |
hberaud | yoctozepto: ok so, please update the patch and let the grab the comments of my fellow to see what they think about this too | 14:43 |
hberaud | s/let the grab/let's grab/ | 14:43 |
hberaud | I'll copy/paste our current conversation into the patch history | 14:45 |
yoctozepto | ok, thanks | 14:54 |
opendevreview | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/releases master: Release final python-masakariclient for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808949 | 14:55 |
hberaud | yoctozepto: done ^ | 14:55 |
yoctozepto | hberaud: thanks again! | 14:56 |
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opendevreview | Erno Kuvaja proposed openstack/releases master: Release Glance stable branches https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/808803 | 16:39 |
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opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: nova: Release Wallaby 23.1.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/809000 | 16:46 |
opendevreview | Douglas Mendizábal proposed openstack/releases master: Proposing Xena RC1 for ansible-role-thales-hsm https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/809010 | 20:35 |
opendevreview | Douglas Mendizábal proposed openstack/releases master: Proposing Xena RC1 for ansible-role-thales-hsm https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/809010 | 22:20 |
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