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| opendevreview | Dmitriy Rabotyagov proposed openstack/releases master: EOL OpenStack-Ansible Queens https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862280 | 08:53 |
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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: [nova] Transition Wallaby to EM https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862298 | 12:35 |
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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: [OpenStackAnsible] Transition Wallaby to EM https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862306 | 12:53 |
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| fungi | in the sdk session, it came up that the reason they released a backward-incompatible version without a major version bump was because "release management" wouldn't allow them to make prereleases. can anyone elaborate on why that was disallowed? | 14:17 |
| elodilles | fungi: i think here we can find some information: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/841844/1 | 14:20 |
| elodilles | 1. basically they have cycle-with-intermediary model | 14:20 |
| elodilles | where there is no rc version | 14:21 |
| elodilles | 2. on the other hand they are still doing 0.X releases | 14:22 |
| clarkb | I'm not sure that explains why you can't do an alpha/beta/rc though? | 14:34 |
| elodilles | clarkb: good question why our validator was setup like that but it does not allow: "] | 14:51 |
| elodilles | "Version 1.0.0.0rc1 looks like a pre-release and the release model does not allow for it" | 14:51 |
| elodilles | i can only guess that the idea was that project in cycle-with-rc model can release beta and rc releases, while projects with cycle-with-intermediary model will release every milestone *at least* and don't need beta and rc granularity because of that | 14:54 |
| clarkb | maybe that is an indication that the sdk should change models or we need a new way to capture the model of the sdk? fwiw I think that the correct thing to do with the sdk was to release a beta and not a real realease as a prerelease | 15:02 |
| elodilles | in my understanding rc model could work. if skd want to release at least once per cycle, and in case they want beta versions. though the question is whether sdk is planning to introduce backward incompatible changes every cycle which requires beta releases OR whether they want multiple 'real releases' per cycle... about the release models, maybe more senior release managers can share some | 15:24 |
| elodilles | insights why they were created as they are o:) | 15:25 |
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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Set Wallaby status to Extended Maintenance https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862393 | 18:04 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update _CLOSED_SERIES set with Wallaby https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862394 | 18:04 |
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