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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Add SLURP mark for Releases page template https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/843623 | 10:47 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [cinder-tempest-plugin] Tag ussuri-last & victoria-last https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/864343 | 10:57 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [cinder] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865747 | 10:57 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [barbican] Transition Queens, Rocky & Stein to EOL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862515 | 10:57 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [heat] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865743 | 10:58 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [Telemetry] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865744 | 10:58 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [magnum] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865745 | 10:59 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [blazar] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865763 | 10:59 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [solum] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865737 | 10:59 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [murano] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865756 | 11:00 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [zun] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865734 | 11:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [OpenStackSDK] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865750 | 11:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [winstackers] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865742 | 11:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [cloudkitty] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865735 | 11:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [vitrage] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865762 | 11:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [tacker] Transition Queens to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865761 | 11:08 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [manila][zed] Add project tracking schedule https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/864313 | 11:08 |
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| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Fix stable branch naming validation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862927 | 13:34 |
| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Release and branch cut test for 2023.1 Antelope https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/860869 | 13:34 |
| opendevreview | Carlos Eduardo proposed openstack/releases master: [manila] New release for stable/xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/866470 | 13:39 |
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| ttx | Meeting in 15min! | 13:45 |
| elodilles | ~o~ | 13:53 |
| ttx | o/ | 14:00 |
| elodilles | o/ | 14:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Fri Dec 2 14:01:14 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:01 |
| ttx | Ping list: hberaud armstrong elodilles | 14:01 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/antelope-relmgt-tracking | 14:01 |
| ttx | Down to line 131 or so | 14:01 |
| ttx | waiting a couple of minutes to see if hberaud joins | 14:02 |
| hberaud | o/ | 14:02 |
| ttx | alright let's go! | 14:02 |
| ttx | #topic Check/force Extended Maintenance transitioning patches for stable/wallaby | 14:03 |
| ttx | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:wallaby-em | 14:03 |
| ttx | looks like all merged | 14:03 |
| elodilles | yepp, everything merged \o/ | 14:03 |
| ttx | which brings us to next topic I guess... | 14:03 |
| ttx | #topic Approve 'Set Wallaby status to Extended Maintenance' patch | 14:03 |
| ttx | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862393 | 14:03 |
| ttx | well that was merged too | 14:04 |
| ttx | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-manuals/+/862395 | 14:04 |
| ttx | same here | 14:04 |
| ttx | elodilles: anything to add? | 14:04 |
| elodilles | Wallaby transitioned to Extended Maintenance completely \o/ | 14:05 |
| elodilles | nothing else to add :) | 14:05 |
| ttx | #topic Assign next week tasks | 14:05 |
| elodilles | (I'll chair the meeting so I've added my name to the countdown mail) | 14:05 |
| ttx | i can take the friendly reminder | 14:05 |
| elodilles | ack, i guess that is the real task here as all the patches have -1-ACKs from teams | 14:06 |
| hberaud | tge trailing patch is already done | 14:06 |
| hberaud | the | 14:06 |
| hberaud | 2 weeks ago | 14:07 |
| ttx | ok so the real task is probably an (all) task pushing them on reviews | 14:07 |
| hberaud | https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:zed-trailing-branch-cut | 14:07 |
| elodilles | anyway, I've added my name to the 'patch proposing' task but i think there won't be anything else that reaquires a patch | 14:07 |
| hberaud | ok | 14:07 |
| elodilles | ttx: ++ | 14:07 |
| hberaud | wfm | 14:07 |
| ttx | when should the friendly reminder be sent ? Would Monday work? | 14:07 |
| elodilles | I think yes | 14:08 |
| ttx | ok will do | 14:08 |
| ttx | all assigned, moving on | 14:08 |
| ttx | #topic Removing the mistral-extra deliverable | 14:08 |
| elodilles | trailing deadline is in 2 weeks, so... | 14:08 |
| hberaud | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/864524 | 14:09 |
| hberaud | yeah I added this topic because I think elod is right | 14:09 |
| hberaud | see his comment on the gerrit patch | 14:09 |
| ttx | hmm, should that be posted and discussed on the governance repo first? | 14:10 |
| hberaud | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/865577 | 14:10 |
| hberaud | yes can't hurt | 14:11 |
| ttx | because they are the ones deciding what's in and what's not | 14:11 |
| ttx | we can flag issues to them, but otherwise should reflect their decision | 14:11 |
| hberaud | elodilles: do you want to socialize your patch toward the governance team? | 14:12 |
| ttx | or just propose the change | 14:12 |
| elodilles | i see. i thought it can be in governance reference, but without being in the 'antelope release' | 14:12 |
| ttx | i think that's not a determination we can make by ourselves | 14:12 |
| elodilles | i can propose the change to governance repository + send a mail to ML | 14:12 |
| ttx | that would be perfect | 14:12 |
| hberaud | elodilles++ | 14:12 |
| ttx | It might trigger a spark of activity | 14:12 |
| ttx | and if not it's a clear TC decision | 14:13 |
| elodilles | ++ | 14:13 |
| ttx | A bunch of users rely on Mistral | 14:13 |
| ttx | Like I saw a presentation on Tuesday about how the OVHCloud self-healing robot is using it | 14:14 |
| elodilles | yeah, i remember some mails about mistral, but it's really not maintained | 14:14 |
| ttx | probably becuase it just works | 14:14 |
| elodilles | ttx: :-o | 14:14 |
| elodilles | ttx: i have the same feeling | 14:14 |
| ttx | so it might decide someone to step up and do this minimal work | 14:14 |
| ttx | it's the perfect timing to have that discussion | 14:15 |
| ttx | ok, moving on? | 14:16 |
| elodilles | ++ | 14:16 |
| ttx | added a task to track that next week\ | 14:16 |
| elodilles | cool, thx! | 14:16 |
| ttx | #topic Stuck reviews discussion | 14:16 |
| ttx | I have a bunch of old stale things in my review log and figured we could use this meeting to review them | 14:17 |
| ttx | Add testing task to avoid broken releases https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/853618 | 14:17 |
| ttx | this one has a bunch of open questions | 14:17 |
| ttx | and we discussed next steps at PTG | 14:18 |
| ttx | should we drop the patch | 14:18 |
| elodilles | yes, we can drop, as things changed | 14:19 |
| elodilles | sorry for not abandoning earlier | 14:19 |
| ttx | I'll let you abandon it | 14:19 |
| hberaud | np | 14:19 |
| ttx | Add SLURP mark for Releases page template https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/843623 | 14:19 |
| ttx | this one has a merge conflict and needs to be refreshed | 14:19 |
| ttx | and was | 14:20 |
| ttx | lgtm now | 14:20 |
| ttx | Fix stable branch naming validation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862927 | 14:20 |
| ttx | sot his one is vblocked on another open question, which is how we should name stable branches going forward | 14:20 |
| ttx | i.e. stable/2023.1 or stable/antelope | 14:21 |
| ttx | Did the TC make a chocie there, or is it up to us? | 14:21 |
| elodilles | it is decided and described in TC resolution | 14:21 |
| * ttx reads | 14:21 | |
| ttx | alright | 14:22 |
| elodilles | it said stable/2023.1 should be the branch name | 14:22 |
| elodilles | (though i haven't found now the resolution) | 14:23 |
| ttx | I just read it | 14:23 |
| ttx | +2 it is | 14:23 |
| elodilles | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html | 14:23 |
| ttx | [manila][zed] Add project tracking schedule https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/864313 | 14:23 |
| elodilles | this one i guess ^^^ | 14:23 |
| ttx | this one merged | 14:23 |
| ttx | Add stable-only tag to generated stable patches https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/810287 | 14:24 |
| ttx | this one does not depend on us, but wanted to check that it was current before pushing infra to review it | 14:25 |
| elodilles | oh, that's a long forgotten thing | 14:26 |
| ttx | forgotten and irrelevant? | 14:27 |
| ttx | still looks like a god thing | 14:28 |
| ttx | good* | 14:28 |
| ttx | but not worth the effort probably | 14:28 |
| ttx | shoudl we kill it? | 14:29 |
| elodilles | well, i'll read again the doc update patch as I have a -1 from fungi there :) | 14:29 |
| ttx | the other stale things are properly marked WIP or W-1 so I'm inclined to let them sleep | 14:30 |
| elodilles | maybe I'll mark this as WIP, too, until there is some result with the doc patch :] | 14:30 |
| ttx | ++ | 14:30 |
| ttx | #topic Open Discussion | 14:30 |
| ttx | Anything else? | 14:31 |
| fungi | elodilles: that -1 is from frickler | 14:31 |
| fungi | i haven't reviewed 810287 (yet anyway) | 14:31 |
| ttx | I think he's talking about a doc patch related to this | 14:32 |
| elodilles | fungi: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/810661 | 14:32 |
| fungi | oh, 810661 has a -1 from me, yes | 14:32 |
| fungi | which is related to it | 14:32 |
| fungi | my concern being taking up a rather significant chunk of the available real estate in the commit subject line (more than 50% of the typical 50-character limit) | 14:34 |
| fungi | in addition to commit footer lines (which can be as long as you like since they get dedicated lines), we also have the option of using and filtering on gerrit hashtag metadata now for things like this | 14:35 |
| fungi | er, taking up more than a quarter of the 50 character recommended limit | 14:36 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Add SLURP mark for Releases page template https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/843623 | 14:37 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Fix stable branch naming validation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/862927 | 14:37 |
| fungi | anyway, i'm only -1 on that proposal, not -2, so open to being overridden by other core reviewers | 14:37 |
| elodilles | fungi: i don't have strong feeling to tell you the truth :) | 14:37 |
| ttx | how about dropping it if nobody is convinced | 14:37 |
| elodilles | fungi: we have this 'process' working in nova | 14:37 |
| fungi | but i do think overloading the commit subject line with metadata is suboptimal when gerrit has more extensible metadata options | 14:38 |
| fungi | elodilles: has nova considered improving their process? | 14:38 |
| elodilles | fungi: it was not a topic there | 14:38 |
| fungi | blindly copying the behavior of one team because "it works" when there could be better options which they too could take advantage of seems like a risk of encoding suboptimal process as recommendation | 14:39 |
| elodilles | fungi: i think it is not that big of a problem than the discussion it caused 1 yr ago | 14:39 |
| fungi | yeah, when this originally came up, i don't think gerrit hashtags were available (or they had only just become so) | 14:41 |
| elodilles | fungi: so i can live without the 'stable-only' tag in the bot generated patches (involving that i update 2-4 patches every 6 months) | 14:41 |
| elodilles | fungi: gerrit hashtags is a good idea, though | 14:41 |
| hberaud | agree | 14:42 |
| fungi | you can add as many of those as you like, and gerrit can filter on them | 14:42 |
| fungi | and make dashboards around them | 14:42 |
| fungi | and if it helps, we can teach gerritbot about them too | 14:42 |
| hberaud | good idea | 14:42 |
| fungi | so it can include hashtag info in its change proposed/merged announcements and stuff | 14:42 |
| fungi | also they're included on the e-mail notifications gerrit sends, so you can filter based on them in your mua too | 14:43 |
| elodilles | all sound good to me :) | 14:44 |
| elodilles | nova scripts needs to be updated for that, too, but i guess that is the least problematic part | 14:44 |
| fungi | if there's an interest in using them for something like this, we should probably restart the discussion about allowing them for all users, or at least doing so in all official openstack projects (can just be an acl update to the inherited openstack/meta-config acl) | 14:44 |
| fungi | right now i think only a few projects have updated their acls to allow them, and some may have restricted their use to core review groups initially, but are probably open to revisiting that | 14:45 |
| elodilles | that would be needed, as committers should set these hashtags | 14:45 |
| fungi | right | 14:45 |
| ttx | ok maybe we can continue that offline | 14:46 |
| ttx | Any other topic to discuss? | 14:46 |
| elodilles | ttx: ack | 14:46 |
| hberaud | nope | 14:47 |
| elodilles | nothing from me | 14:47 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Release and branch cut test for 2023.1 Antelope https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/860869 | 14:47 |
| elodilles | let's see the 1st stable/2023.1 branch cut ^^^ | 14:48 |
| fungi | exciting! | 14:48 |
| ttx | alright... closing the meeting then | 14:50 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Fri Dec 2 14:50:16 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2022/releaseteam.2022-12-02-14.01.html | 14:50 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2022/releaseteam.2022-12-02-14.01.txt | 14:50 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2022/releaseteam.2022-12-02-14.01.log.html | 14:50 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone! | 14:50 |
| elodilles | thanks ttx o/ | 14:50 |
| opendevreview | OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/release-test master: Update master for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/release-test/+/866484 | 14:52 |
| hberaud | ttx: thanks | 14:54 |
| elodilles | there: https://opendev.org/openstack/release-test/src/branch/stable/2023.1 | 15:08 |
| elodilles | \o/ | 15:08 |
| hberaud | \o/ | 15:19 |
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