| opendevreview | Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update series statuses https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/904866 | 11:20 |
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| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: Create new puppet-ceph release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/907978 | 13:49 |
| elodilles | ~o~ | 14:00 |
| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Fri Feb 9 14:00:04 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:00 |
| ttx | Ping list: elod frickler armstrong | 14:00 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/caracal-relmgt-tracking | 14:00 |
| ttx | around line ~260 | 14:00 |
| elodilles | o/ | 14:00 |
| elodilles | R-8 shocking :-o | 14:01 |
| frickler | \o | 14:01 |
| ttx | Time flies ! | 14:01 |
| ttx | Alright, we have quorum :) | 14:01 |
| ttx | #topic Review task completion | 14:01 |
| ttx | 1/ Make sure the next development series name has been added to the data/series_status.yaml file (elod) | 14:01 |
| elodilles | it's there: https://releases.openstack.org/ | 14:02 |
| ttx | 2/ Send countdown email (ttx) | 14:02 |
| ttx | that will be done after this meeting | 14:03 |
| hberaud | o/ | 14:03 |
| ttx | #topic Assign next week tasks | 14:03 |
| ttx | fungi: Notify the Infrastructure team to generate an artifact signing key (but not replace the current one yet), and begin the attestation process | 14:04 |
| elodilles | as i see most if the team is away next week :-o | 14:04 |
| ttx | should we consider yourself notified? | 14:04 |
| fungi | yep | 14:04 |
| fungi | i can take care of it | 14:04 |
| ttx | yay, task done! | 14:04 |
| ttx | All tasks assigned | 14:04 |
| elodilles | :] | 14:04 |
| ttx | Thanks elodilles ! | 14:04 |
| ttx | #topic Review countdown email | 14:05 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails | 14:05 |
| ttx | I actually had one question around the cycle highlights | 14:05 |
| fungi | yeah, starting at line 45 in the draft | 14:05 |
| ttx | fungi: should we direct drafters to yuo for advice, rather than kendall? | 14:05 |
| fungi | updated | 14:06 |
| ttx | ok, you can rephrase that sentence however you are comfortable | 14:06 |
| ttx | wfm | 14:06 |
| elodilles | about cycle highlight | 14:06 |
| elodilles | i think there should be a patch somewhere... | 14:07 |
| elodilles | let me find it | 14:07 |
| hberaud | may we can put a reminder about the oslo ff next week in the upcoming deadlines? | 14:07 |
| elodilles | hberaud: +1 | 14:07 |
| hberaud | that concern everyone | 14:07 |
| ttx | Please add | 14:07 |
| ttx | maybe on line 27 | 14:08 |
| elodilles | there it is: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/906351 | 14:08 |
| elodilles | cycle highlight ^^^ | 14:08 |
| ttx | I put in my review already ! | 14:08 |
| elodilles | ttx: so it changes the deadline in the mail then | 14:09 |
| ttx | OK, would be good to approve it then | 14:09 |
| ttx | so that doc is up to date | 14:09 |
| frickler | done | 14:10 |
| ttx | OK adding oslo thing | 14:11 |
| elodilles | thx o/ | 14:11 |
| elodilles | (i've updated the cycle highlight section of the mail) | 14:11 |
| ttx | see line 28 | 14:11 |
| hberaud | wfm | 14:12 |
| ttx | I'll propose an update for the template for that one | 14:12 |
| ttx | since we did so many fixes | 14:12 |
| hberaud | thanks | 14:12 |
| frickler | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/905154 seems also pretty urgent if nominations should start next week? | 14:12 |
| frickler | should those also be mentioned in the mail? | 14:12 |
| elodilles | ttx: thanks in advance o/ | 14:13 |
| ttx | frickler: I think it's a bit outside teh release team's thing | 14:13 |
| ttx | We can't really supplant TC communications | 14:14 |
| frickler | if it is outside of release team, why are those dates in the release schedule? | 14:14 |
| ttx | I was not a fan, but we allow non-releasy mentions on the schedule | 14:15 |
| ttx | like events and elections | 14:15 |
| fungi | ideally the election officials or another tc representative/delegate will be sending a separate announcement about elections | 14:15 |
| ttx | I like my release countdown emails very reproducible | 14:15 |
| ttx | keeps teh amount of work doing them pretty low | 14:16 |
| frickler | the mail mentions the PTG, so I think ppl could expect similarly important events like elections to be mentioned there, too | 14:16 |
| frickler | just seeing this from a reader perspective | 14:16 |
| ttx | the more we add custom reminder content, the more work it is | 14:16 |
| ttx | I'm fine adding it (not in the template but in this particular email) if someone wants it | 14:17 |
| ttx | It's already long though. | 14:17 |
| fungi | would just tacking a line onto the "upcoming deadlines" section at the end be enough? | 14:18 |
| elodilles | since we haven't been adding it i don't miss it either, tbh | 14:18 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: Fix cycle highlight deadline https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/906351 | 14:18 |
| ttx | yeah that would work | 14:18 |
| elodilles | fungi: +1 | 14:18 |
| frickler | yeah, I was only thinking about a line there, sorry if I was implying something else | 14:18 |
| fungi | seems a nice middle ground between taking responsibility for reminding folks and simply acknowledging stuff that's listed on the schedule | 14:19 |
| ttx | works for me.. please add | 14:19 |
| ttx | all good for me | 14:21 |
| frickler | does it start at the beginning of the week or the end? I'm not sure | 14:21 |
| ttx | frickler: a good example of why we are not the best at communicatnig that kind of info :) | 14:22 |
| elodilles | LGTM | 14:22 |
| fungi | frickler: https://review.opendev.org/905152 indicates nominations are expected to start 2024-02-14T23:45 | 14:23 |
| fungi | but keep in mind that change hasn't merged | 14:23 |
| ttx | hmm, the dates are not even official... | 14:23 |
| elodilles | let's just skip it for now :/ | 14:24 |
| ttx | i don;t think we should announce dates that the TC has not validated, yes | 14:24 |
| elodilles | i mean, there should be and there will be a clear communication for the whole community, this is mostly for PTLs and release liaisons | 14:24 |
| frickler | hmm, good point, bad also bad that this is only a week away | 14:24 |
| fungi | there seems to be some unconfirmed concern raised in comments that it lands right on top of lunar new year | 14:24 |
| ttx | yes we should tell th TC this is a bit late | 14:24 |
| frickler | JayF: tonyb: ^^ | 14:25 |
| ttx | (or early) | 14:25 |
| ttx | For now let's remove it. We can mention it next week (like when the nomination period closes) | 14:25 |
| frickler | anyway, dropped the line from the mail again | 14:25 |
| ttx | ok all set | 14:25 |
| elodilles | thanks | 14:26 |
| ttx | #topic Open Discussion | 14:26 |
| ttx | anything anyone? | 14:26 |
| elodilles | maybe we haven't officially say welcome to frickler :) | 14:26 |
| frickler | \o/ hello | 14:26 |
| elodilles | so welcome in the relmgt team o/ | 14:27 |
| ttx | No cake, no welcome ! | 14:27 |
| elodilles | :D | 14:27 |
| frickler | I also proposed to be added as release liaison, if someone still hasn't seen that https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/907350 | 14:27 |
| ttx | frickler: thanks for officially joining the crazy team that tries to keep openstack released ! | 14:27 |
| elodilles | yepp, thanks, also for the work you already started o/ | 14:28 |
| ttx | Always good to have fresh eyes and people with different styles of itches to scratch | 14:29 |
| elodilles | #info welcome frickler in the Release Management team \o/ | 14:29 |
| elodilles | so we have a highlight as well ^^^ :) | 14:29 |
| ttx | OK, if nothing else, I'll close now... | 14:29 |
| frickler | just a moment | 14:29 |
| * ttx holds | 14:29 | |
| frickler | some question about the open eol/eom patches | 14:30 |
| frickler | most are waiting for known-slow to inactive PTLs | 14:30 |
| frickler | we already overrode those for projects that are officially marked inactive | 14:30 |
| elodilles | for inactive ones i usually add PTL-Approved manually with explanations. did i miss any such repo? | 14:31 |
| frickler | but maybe we have some way to make better progress for the remainder, too | 14:31 |
| elodilles | i usually ping them via IRC or worst case via mail | 14:31 |
| fungi | in positive news, recent deletions have lowered the stable branch failures to around 6-8 notifications a day now (granted much of that may be due to an increased number of projects whose zuul configs are in an untestable error state now) | 14:31 |
| elodilles | i did some pinging, but i'm a bit lagging behind this week | 14:31 |
| frickler | yes, the number of zuul errors did increase instead of decreasing as I had hoped | 14:32 |
| elodilles | fungi: yepp, i wanted to highlight that to you, too ;) | 14:32 |
| elodilles | frickler: :-o | 14:32 |
| elodilles | fungi: (i mean, about the less mail) | 14:32 |
| fungi | no need to tell me, i notice it every day when i check my e-mail ;) | 14:33 |
| elodilles | :) | 14:33 |
| frickler | ok, so just keep pinging then, it is? | 14:33 |
| fungi | the tc can rule that it's okay to go forward in the absence of a response | 14:34 |
| elodilles | frickler: i don't really want force merge without PTL approval, but if we want that then we can set a deadline if you think | 14:34 |
| fungi | chasing after absent project leaders is not a productive use of anyone's time | 14:34 |
| frickler | I want to close these eol things out and then proceed to xena etc. | 14:34 |
| elodilles | frickler: ++ | 14:35 |
| frickler | ok, so I'll check what's left when I'm back after next week and then take this up with the TC | 14:35 |
| elodilles | frickler: ACK, thanks | 14:36 |
| elodilles | and I'll do the pingings next week | 14:36 |
| frickler | cool. that's all from me then, thx | 14:36 |
| ttx | Alright! Last call... | 14:36 |
| elodilles | thanks too o/ | 14:37 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 14:37 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Fri Feb 9 14:37:45 2024 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:37 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2024/releaseteam.2024-02-09-14.00.html | 14:37 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2024/releaseteam.2024-02-09-14.00.txt | 14:37 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/releaseteam/2024/releaseteam.2024-02-09-14.00.log.html | 14:37 |
| ttx | thanks everyone! | 14:37 |
| ttx | Next week I'll try to attend but may have to leave before the end | 14:38 |
| elodilles | thanks ttx for chairing o/ && thanks everyone for joining o/ | 14:38 |
| elodilles | ttx: ACK | 14:38 |
| elodilles | ttx: if you couldn't make it then i'll keep a short meeting with myself :) just having things recorderd to the "ship's log" :D | 14:40 |
| fungi | hah, wish i'd thought of that analogy back when i used to constantly run meetings that nobody else showed up for | 14:41 |
| elodilles | :] | 14:41 |
| frickler | elodilles: (or others) there are also 2 or 3 more eol/eom patches that could be approved if you want to end the week with another good deed ;) | 14:52 |
| elodilles | frickler: \o/ looking it | 14:57 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [glance] Transition Ussuri to End of Life https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/903311 | 15:09 |
| opendevreview | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Update email template for week R-8 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/908589 | 15:09 |
| opendevreview | Thierry Carrez proposed openstack/releases master: Update email template for week R-8 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/908589 | 15:11 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/releases master: [glance] Transition Yoga to Unmaintained https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/906584 | 15:16 |
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