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opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/releases master: [telemetry-tempest-plugin] Tag yoga-last https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/908365 | 14:18 |
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opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: [telemetry-tempest-plugin] Tag yoga-last https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/908365 | 14:18 |
opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: [telemetry-tempest-plugin] Tag yoga-last https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/908365 | 14:18 |
opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/releases master: Release telemetry-tempest-plugin for caracal https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/907406 | 14:19 |
rosmaita | elodilles or tonyb: around? | 19:15 |
tonyb | rosmaita: Yup, in the infra meeting but can switch tabs ;P | 19:16 |
rosmaita | ping me when the meeting's over | 19:16 |
opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/releases master: [telemetry-tempest-plugin] Tag yoga-last https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/908365 | 19:34 |
tonyb | rosmaita: Okay 'sup? | 19:38 |
rosmaita | want to run an email draft by you | 19:38 |
rosmaita | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/unmaintained-global-default | 19:39 |
rosmaita | fungi said that apparently a bunch of teams didn't understand that they don't need their own unmaintained core groups | 19:39 |
fungi | or didn't realize that it was possible to participate in the central one | 19:40 |
rosmaita | right, so we want to send out an email that makes both points | 19:41 |
fungi | almost everyone in openstack seems to default to their trust-silo tunnelvision | 19:41 |
tonyb | Yup sounds good to me. | 19:41 |
tonyb | I'm not entirely sure what elodilles and I would say in a separate email. | 19:42 |
fungi | tonyb: separately, it would be great if you and elodilles could work out what the requirements and process are for joining openstack-unmaintained-core | 19:42 |
tonyb | ping us, we'll add you #profit | 19:42 |
fungi | like can it be as simple as "if you're interested and at least minimally involved in openstack"? | 19:42 |
rosmaita | i didn't want to commit you to anything specific, so that's why i said you & elodilles will follow up | 19:43 |
fungi | "if you're a current or former core reviewer on an official openstack deliverable, we'll immediately add you on request" etc | 19:43 |
fungi | also clarifying the expectations, like "it's okay to join openstack-unmaintained-core even if you only expect to ever approve changes for a single repository/branch" | 19:44 |
tonyb | Okay. I'll work with elodilles to write something. Adding that to docs for easier access once it's "final" | 19:44 |
rosmaita | tonyb: thanks ... i told the tc i'd wait to send the email until 2100 to give people time to comment | 19:45 |
fungi | a lot of the concern/pushback seems to be related to reviewers being unsure of what it takes to be in openstack-unmaintained-core and what responsibilities they'd be signing themselves up for | 19:45 |
tonyb | Okay | 19:46 |
fungi | and so their default reaction has been to create new groups in gerrit instead | 19:46 |
tonyb | rosmaita: I added a "sometime this week" to set expectations on when the email will arrive | 19:46 |
rosmaita | ack | 19:47 |
fungi | my biggest concern right now is that, if we don't get in front of it, we'll end up with a bunch more project-specific groups in gerrit with more restrictive acls we'll never be able to walk back | 19:48 |
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