Tuesday, 2014-03-04

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ttxstevebaker: o/08:16
ttxone day off ?08:16
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ttxmarkmcclain: o/13:03
markmcclaino/13:03
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-313:03
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/fip-op-status looks completed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66866/ ?13:03
markmcclainit is… I missed cleaning that one up yesterday13:04
ttxWas also wondering about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/nicira-plugin-renaming13:05
markmcclainthere was one minor clean up item that was still awaiting a 2nd +2 last night13:05
ttxand https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ryu-ml2-driver with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71791/13:05
markmcclainplugin renaming merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77720/13:06
markmcclainfixed ryu-ml213:07
ttxok that's all I spotted13:07
ttxOf the remaining open ones, are there a significant portion that can still make it today ?13:08
ttxOr do you expect most will significantly miss the target ?13:09
markmcclainI'm thinking we'll hit about half13:10
markmcclainmaybe 2/313:10
markmcclainof the ones that miss13:10
markmcclainmany of the drivers will get caught up in the failure of the vendor to implement testing13:10
ttxSo of the 49 remaining up, you hope to get about halkf of them in, but don't really know which ones13:11
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markmcclainthere are 2 that they're going to try to get in today but are candidates for an exception13:11
ttxmarkmcclain: should the Slow progress ones be deferred to Juno ?13:11
markmcclainI've got fix the dependency of that blueprint13:12
markmcclainthe v6 subteam several patches in flight13:12
ttxmarkmcclain: considering adding a day, but trying to see how much of a difference it will actually make13:12
markmcclainin general those are the ones I'm tracking for an exception because they're likely to land this week13:13
ttxCurrent FFE candidates are the High/Essential ones, correct?13:13
ttxIf more, just bump them up13:13
markmcclainwill do13:14
ttxOn the bugs side... anything you'd block i3 on ? Or should I just defer everything to RC1 when I cut the i3 branch ?13:14
markmcclaindefer anything open13:15
ttxanything you'd liek to add to meeting today ? Wil discuss Feature freeze extensively already :)13:15
markmcclainv6 only because it might impact Horizon, but I can also reach out outside of that meeting13:16
ttxwhich one is v6only ?13:16
markmcclainsorry.. the IPv6 series of patches13:17
markmcclainthey're all there, but not merged because of code cleanups13:17
ttxipv6-feature-parity ?13:18
markmcclainno related blueprints.. the dependencies aren't correct13:18
ttxok, we can sort that one out at meeting13:18
markmcclainI'll get it cleaned up before then13:18
ttxmarkmcclain: ok thanks13:19
ttxmerge away !13:19
ttxdhellmann: around?13:19
dhellmannttx: here!13:19
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/icehouse-313:19
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/oslo-db-lib left13:19
dhellmannyes, that one needs discussion13:20
ttxdhellmann: i suspect nobody will be using it just now for icehouse ?13:20
dhellmanna lot of the work is done, and the remaining work can happen after the library is created13:20
dhellmannright, but we do want to work on releasing it so it is available for use in j113:20
dhellmannso do I move the blueprint to rc1?13:20
ttxOK, that sounds like something that could happen post-FF, or even post-RC1 (in "Juno")13:21
ttxdhellmann: yeah, no need to rush it in13:21
dhellmannright, I just wasn't sure how to reflect it properly in launchpad13:21
ttxyes, it touches one of those points where oslo is actually better not being aligned13:21
dhellmannright13:22
ttxbug 1282250 -- can I just move that to RC1 if it fails to land ?13:22
dhellmannI think that just merged, let me look again13:23
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ttxSame question for 1255239 on the oslo.messaging side13:23
dhellmannyes, that merged it just hasn't updated13:23
ttxok, updating13:23
dhellmannthe messaging bug can be moved to rc1 if it doesn't land13:23
ttxOK, I think that's all I had13:24
ttxAnything you'd like to discuss at meeting ?13:24
ttxmoved oslo-db to rc113:25
dhellmannat some point I need to work out a better plan for testing pre-releases of libraries against the trunk versions of the apps -- we had 2 breakages this week13:25
dhellmannbut I think maybe that's not something to go over in the meeting13:25
dhellmannit's just eating at my mind13:25
ttxagreed13:25
ttxdhellmann: thanks!13:26
dhellmannttx: thanks!13:26
ttxjgriffith: if you're around, I can sneak you in now13:26
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ttxjd__: welcome!13:33
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-313:33
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/hbase-alarming looks complete to me ?13:33
jd__yeah I should update13:34
ttxWhat about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/flavor-id-metric ? Do you want it in ? Or would you rather postpone it ?13:34
ttxI'll update hbase-alarming13:34
ttxtoo late13:35
ttxIt's been added to i-3 but doesn't have a priority yet13:35
jd__I dont know what it's about yet13:35
ttx(flavor-id-metric)13:35
jd__somebody added it yesterday...13:35
ttxOK, just remove it from i-3 or bump it to Low depending on what you want your reviewers to do with it13:36
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jd__k13:36
ttxBut it looks like they could use some focus on prioritized stuff :)13:36
jd__agreed13:36
ttxAre the 7 remaining ones still likely to make it today ?13:37
ttxIf not, how far are they ? Would an extra day change anything ?13:37
jd__not sure yet, but I'll remove the ones that are not ready13:38
ttxdecoupled-source-sink-discoverable-resources is the only one you would require an FFE for ?13:38
jd__time constraint alarm I'm not sure for example13:38
jd__ttx: yes, and but I hope it'll be merged13:38
ttxok, anything you remove off the reviwers slate increase the chances that the others make it13:38
jd__noted :)13:39
ttx(hopefully)13:39
ttxjd__: tonigth we'll discuss if adding another day would help in any way (or just defer the madness for one day)13:39
ttxso would be good if you could determine how far are the ones still open, If they are just a couple hours away adding one day could be worth it13:40
jd__agreed13:40
ttxIn most cases in the past it didn't really help :)13:40
jd__hehe13:40
ttxOn the bugs side, anything i3-critical ? Or should I just defer anything that doesn't switch to FixCommitted by the time I create the branch ?13:41
jd__shold be good just one to remove13:41
jd__done13:42
ttxAnything you'd like to discuss at release meeting later today ?13:42
jd__nop13:42
ttxOK, will let you go back to pushing those last things in13:42
* ttx glances at the queue health13:43
ttxnot totally bad yet13:43
ttxjd__: thanks!13:43
ttxjgriffith: around now ?13:44
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sdaguettx: well nova's currently blocked from the gate because of the oslo.messaging release13:59
sdaguethough I think we finally have the fix13:59
ttxsdague: ok14:00
ttxsdague: push it in the gate pipe as soon as you can :)14:01
sdagueyeh, working on it14:01
ttxlongest day of the semester14:03
sdagueyou know, it's at least not the everything's on fire that i2 was14:12
sdaguethat freshness check I think is *really* helpful14:12
* jd__ agrees14:14
ttxsdague: agreed14:20
notmynamettx: can we go ahead and have our meeting?14:39
ttxnotmyname: yes14:40
notmynamettx: 1.13 is out. we're progressing on storage policies. 1.14 will be out for icehouse14:40
notmynamettx: I don't have any questions for you. do you have any for me?14:41
ttxnotmyname: had only one question, about the https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.13.0 page14:41
ttxlists only one blueprint, was wondering if you wouldn't kike to highlight anything else14:41
ttxlike*14:41
ttxor if that's the only highlight14:41
ttx(release notes containing the full list, of course)14:41
notmynamedoesn't look like account acls are mentioned. there's that probably a few more to make the blueprint list complete14:42
ttxyour call, i don't want to make you duplicate your work too much either14:43
ttxI think it's good to have key features appear there too, but the definition of "key features" belongs to you14:44
notmynameI normally do for every release. I just didn't this time, since I was traveling and not online14:44
ttxnotmyname: ok, just making sure that wasn't an oversight14:44
notmynameok. I'll see if I can find some time in the next few days to update it14:44
ttxnotmyname: ok, that's all I had. Next week i'm in vacation14:45
notmynameok14:46
ttxSomeone will probably replace me at the meeting, but don't expect 1:1s14:46
notmynameack14:46
ttxanything you'd like to discuss at meeting later ?14:46
notmynamettx: thinking....14:47
notmynamettx: nothing pressing. we had some good conversation yesterday at the operators gathering. tom fifield will probably give you some notes14:47
ttxnotmyname: great. haven't received any feedback yet14:48
ttxgood to know it went well14:48
notmynamettx: for now, consider this as an idea: similar to how the TC does resolutions now, use text files and git/gerrit instead of LP blueprints14:48
notmynamenot anything that needs to be brought up in the meeting today though14:48
ttxok14:49
ttxtalk to you later then14:50
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dolphmttx: o/14:59
ttxdolphm: hi!14:59
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/icehouse-314:59
ttxOnly https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/revocation-events left15:00
ttxHow far is this ?15:00
dolphmttx: far, but a bit up in the air as it is an absolutely giant patch15:00
dolphm+2k lines...15:00
ttxalso not something I would consder an ideal FFE candidate15:01
dolphmthe patch is just starting to settle down; we'll try and get it in today, but we've already discussed bumping it to juno if not15:01
ttxyes15:01
dolphmttx: agree; it's waaaay up there on our wishlist, but it's too big to be FFE15:01
ttxok15:02
ttxBug 128226615:02
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/128226615:02
ttxi3 blocker, or should I just move it to rc115:02
ttx(if it fails to land today)15:03
dolphmcurrently blocked by a change currently gating to tempest, and then we'll get our patches moving as they LGTM otherwise15:03
dolphmtempest change- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76949/15:03
ttxI'l move it to rc1 if it doesn't make it, feel free to backport it if it makes master soon enough ?15:04
dolphmsounds good15:05
dolphmhow long do we have, ish?15:05
ttxabout 19 hours ?15:05
dolphmso many hours!15:05
dolphmthat's like 3 dev days15:06
ttxshhh. don't tell15:06
dolphmwhich is like a dev week15:06
dolphmwe're golden15:06
ttxAnything you'd like to discuss at meeting today ?15:06
dolphmi did want to bring up http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg17506.html15:07
dolphmbut i think we're punting until after the summit15:07
ttxyeah15:08
ttxno urgency there15:08
dolphmespecially this week15:08
dolphmso: no, not otherwise15:08
ttxcool, thx! Talk to you later15:08
dolphm /salute15:09
ttxrussellb: whenever you're ready15:13
jgriffithttx: back if russellb doesn't show :)15:17
ttxjgriffith: ok, you're on :)15:17
jgriffithexcellent!!15:17
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/icehouse-315:17
jgriffithI'm fairly good with the BP's15:18
jgriffithQuota-Delete I'll move out15:18
jgriffithpossibly becoming a bug15:18
ttxThey all still got a chance to get merged today ?15:18
jgriffithttx: well, depends on if I get a flight with wifi :)15:18
ttxincluding implement-v6-endpoint-in-solidfire-driver ?15:18
jgriffithttx: realisticly probably not, but I'm still *hoping*15:18
ttxbut no FFE expected so far ?15:19
jgriffithI have a couple in mind for those that are under review15:19
jgriffithbut I'm waiting to see what we can land today15:19
ttxok, we'll see that tomorrow then15:19
jgriffithttx: can we just cut at midnight and do exceptions after based on how it ended up?15:19
russellbi'm here sorry15:19
ttxjgriffith: on the bugs side, i'll just defer anything that doesn't make the branch cut to RC1 ? Or is there anything critical you really want to have in i3 ?15:20
ttxrussellb: flight delayed: 5mn15:20
jgriffithttx: that's perfectly fine15:20
jgriffithttx: russellb haha!15:20
jgriffithsorry :)15:20
russellbnp15:21
ttxjgriffith: yes, just bump quota-delete out or make it a bug15:21
jgriffithttx: the "refactor" I'm likely to punt and not calling it a bug15:21
jgriffithttx: poor choice of title if they wantedit considered a bug IMO :)15:21
ttxanything you'd like to discuss at meeting ?15:21
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jgriffithNope, I will hopefully make it15:22
jgriffithhave a lay over during that time slot15:22
ttxhmmkay15:22
jgriffithshould make TC meeting and Project meeting15:22
ttxsee you there then15:22
jgriffithif not I'll vote via gerrit15:22
jgriffithttx: thx15:22
ttxrussellb: you're in15:22
russellbk15:22
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/icehouse-315:23
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-watchdog looks completed to me ?15:23
russellbyeah i think that just merged yesterday15:23
ttxupdating15:23
ttxthat makes 47 still in flight15:24
ttxi suspect the breakage didn't help15:24
russellbyeah . ..15:24
ttxhow much of a difference would an extra day really make ?15:24
russellbeh, maybe some, but not much, and probably none that a FFE can't solve15:25
ttxI can be late in branch cutting tomorrow, but I expect it will take that long to emplty the gate queue15:25
russellbi think that's fine15:25
ttxso if it's not enqueued tonight it probably will miss the target15:25
russellbi think the FFE list should be doable, since i only want to grant them with clear nova-core review sponsors15:25
ttxCould you bump your likely FFE candidates to High, when you know about them ?15:26
ttxwill help communicate taht they are more likely to make it15:26
russellbthe rpc versions one is intentionally late15:27
russellbso that one at least15:27
russellbdansmith: we should re-word the objects ones to reflect what merged for anything that is "mostly done" i think15:27
dansmithyeah15:27
russellbi think it may be everything in Medium honestly15:28
ttxalso known as the split-complete trick15:28
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russellbeverything not Low is a possible FFE15:28
ttxOK, we'll review that tomorrow15:28
ttxanything I should not defer to RC1 in the bug list ?15:28
ttxrussellb: fwiw if we only take into account ">Low or implemented", you're at 76% compltion right now, which is not bad at all15:29
russellbnothing i know of in bug land15:29
ttx(">Low or implemented" being the metric the release radar consider)15:30
tjonesjust 1 marked critical right now15:30
russellblooks like we may have an upgrade bug, but that can probably be targeted to RC115:30
ttxtjones: 1287542 ?15:30
tjonesttxyes15:30
tjonesttx: yes :-)15:30
ttxfix is on its way. Can't merge anything until it's in anyway15:30
tjonesja15:31
ttxrussellb: anything to discuss at meeting tonight, apart from feature freeze ?15:31
russellbdon't think so15:31
ttxok, go back to gate force feeding15:32
russellbk, thanks15:32
* ttx could see an openstackreaction with an anim of goose forcefeeding15:32
russellbhow about one for overworked reviewers15:32
tjonesttx: ewwwww15:32
ttxdavid-lyle: ready when you are15:33
david-lyleready15:33
ttxrussellb: thanks!15:33
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ttxhttps://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/icehouse-315:34
ttx19 still in flight15:34
ttx1 blocked by neutron patches, we'll discuss the state of this one at meeting15:34
ttxWhat about the 18 others ? Still standing a small chance to make it ?15:35
david-lyleI know of 2-3 that were approve and just had merge conflicts15:35
ttxdavid-lyle: ok, would be good to get /those/ in :)15:36
david-lylethere are several more that could go today as well.  Certainly won't get all 1815:36
ttxare your FFE candidates all rated "high" ?15:36
david-lyleyes, the first two15:37
ttxOK great15:37
ttxWe'll discuss precise timing of the freeze at the meeting today15:38
david-lylesounds good15:38
ttxso knowing which are "just need a couple more hours" will be useful15:38
david-lyleI should have a very good idea by then.15:38
ttxOn the bugs side, I suspect I can just defer all the incomplete to rc1 when I cut branch15:38
david-lyleyes15:39
david-lyleas a reminder, master is icehouse until what point?15:39
ttxdavid-lyle: anything you'd like to add to the meeting agenda for today ?15:39
ttxuntil rc115:39
ttxdavid-lyle: RC1 is basically the point where you fixed all the bugs you wanted to fix and can switch to juno dev15:40
ttxdoesn't prevent crazy bugs from being discovered and backported in further RCs15:40
david-lyleI remember master being the same release even after the RC for some time, in Havana15:40
ttxbut we keep master on icehouse until you empty your release-critical buglist15:41
ttxdavid-lyle: hmm, that would be weird15:41
david-lyleah ok, that's what I remember then15:41
david-lyleto keep the cherry picking clean15:41
ttxmaster switches to next release as we cut the RC1 milestone-proposed branch, by design15:41
ttxsice that milestone-proposed branch ends up being stable/icehouse15:42
ttxso, anything to add to meeting agenda ?15:42
david-lyleok, so Juno bps theoretically could land Thursday on master?15:42
ttxNo. Thursday is icehouse-315:43
ttxnot RC1 :)15:43
* david-lyle facepalm15:43
ttxshall take you a couple weeks to empty your release-critical buglist15:43
david-lyleok I get it15:43
david-lylejust a little slow15:43
david-lyleno, I'm good for the meeting15:44
ttxOK then, talk to you later!15:44
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dhellmannttx, I do have a topic to bring up at the release meeting today16:25
ttxdhellmann: suggest away16:26
dhellmannfor juno, I (assuming I'm PTL again) would like each project using the oslo incubator to designate at least one point of contact for coordinating syncing16:27
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dhellmannI could just bring this up on the ML, I guess16:27
ttxdhellmann: yeah, ML++16:27
ttxwe can bring it up /again/ when we get closer to Juno16:27
dhellmannexcept that always devolves into "syncing from oslo sucks" so I was hoping for a more straightforward discussion16:27
ttxhah!16:28
ttxdhellmann: the trick is, you actually want commitment from the newly-elected PTLs more than the current ones16:28
dhellmannhmm, true16:28
ttxso I would go ML + raise the topic post-election16:28
dhellmannmakes sense16:28
ttxbut you can skip ML if you think it will rabbithole16:28
* dhellmann is sure it will16:29
ttxcopy and paste ! srsly!16:29
ttxdhellmann: yep, so good discussion, bad timing, no urgency. The trick is to keep it in one corner of your mind16:29
dhellmannyeah, I'll make a note to bring it up in a few weeks -- when are elections?16:30
ttxPTL elections shall be completed by...16:30
ttxApril 1016:31
dhellmannttx: ok, that gives me time to work out exactly what we want16:38
ttxmarkwash :No such nick/channel17:00
ttxhub_cap: no slicknik17:02
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ttxSlickNik: o/17:06
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/icehouse-317:06
SlickNiko/17:06
ttxStill 8 blueprints in flight17:06
ttxSlickNik: 3 of them are marked "started", which probably means code wasn't even proposed yet ?17:07
ttxShould we defer those to Juno ?17:07
SlickNikYes, I suggest we move those out to a future milestone17:07
ttxincluding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/configuration-parameters-in-db ?17:07
ttxor should that one get a feature freeze exception and get merged post-FF ?17:08
SlickNikYes, since I haven't seen any proposals from cp16net for it.17:08
SlickNikI can have a chat with him and move it back if it seems like he has some traction on it.17:09
ttxSlickNik: i'll let you move them (to "next")17:09
SlickNikttx: Thanks! Will do.17:09
ttxfor the last 5 in flight, time is running out to get them in17:09
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ttxso would be great to give them the final pushes they need17:10
SlickNikMost of them are in code review, and I've spoken with other cores to get them merged in as soon as they pass the integration tests / reviews.17:10
ttxSlickNik: from my past discussions with hub_cap only the ones at "High" would be considered for a Feature freeze exception (FFE)17:11
SlickNikWill definitely do / ping them again as a reminder.17:11
ttxSlickNik: I'll cut the branch tomorrow morning and defer what's not in by then17:11
SlickNikYes, the main ones that we're looking at for FFE are the XML / Mongo bps.17:11
ttxi'll probably put to rc1 the ones that are marked high17:11
ttxand then we'll review them for exception17:12
SlickNikSounds like a good plan.17:12
ttxon the bugs side... anything you really need to have in icehouse-3 ? Or should I just defer everything that doesn't make it to RC1  ?17:12
ttxthere are a couple critical ones in there17:12
SlickNikWe've fixed all the critical bugs that we're aware of this point.17:12
ttxok17:13
ttxwe can always backport them back if needed17:13
ttxSlickNik: anything you'd like to talk about at the meeting later ?17:13
SlickNikNot anything in particular.17:14
ttxSlickNik: OK then. Just review the "started" ones and target them to "next" milestone if you confirm they are not making the cut17:14
SlickNikNew to some of this, so thanks for your help with it!17:14
ttxthat will help clear the scoreboard17:15
SlickNikI'm going to do that right after our conversation.17:15
ttxSlickNik: thx!17:15
SlickNikThank you!17:15
ttxmarkwash: ready ?17:15
markwashttx: o/ sorry I am late17:15
ttxnp, it's one of those days17:15
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/icehouse-317:15
ttxmarkwash: 8 still in flight17:16
ttxtime to postpone those that won't make it today and you don't want to ask an FFE for17:16
markwashwill do17:16
ttxand concentrate on getting those last ones in17:16
markwashttx: understood17:17
markwashit should be fairly straightforward17:17
ttxAny of the "high" stil liekly to make it ?17:18
ttx"still likely"17:18
markwashno17:18
ttximprove-api-unit-tests is OK post-FF17:18
ttx(improving tests is always ok)17:18
ttxso feel free to push that one to RC1 if needed17:19
ttxmarkwash: ok, will let you clean up17:19
markwashokay cool I will use rc1 judiciously17:19
ttxon the bug side, will defer anything that doesn't make it to RC1, unless you tell me otherwise17:19
markwashokay, when?17:20
ttxwhen I cut the branch. Should be in my tomorrow morning17:20
markwashunderstood, thanks17:20
ttx(we can always add them back to i3 if needed)17:20
ttxmarkwash: anything you'd like to add to agenda for the meeting ?17:21
markwashno, I'm good17:21
ttxmarkwash: ok then, thx!17:22
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stevebakerttx: \o19:18
ttxstevebaker: o/19:31
stevebakerttx: hi19:31
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/icehouse-319:31
ttx10 still marked in flight19:32
ttxincluding 6 high19:32
stevebakerThe 6 High priority I'd like to get an extension on if possible19:32
ttxstevebaker: what about the 2 still "in progress" ? Should they be deferred at this point ?19:32
ttxstevebaker: we'll review the extensions post-FF tomorrow if they are still needed19:33
stevebakerhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/improve-api-polling is in the merge queue. The other Mediums and Low are contenders for deferring19:33
stevebakerttx: how many hours until FF?19:33
ttxunless they affect other projects adversely it should be OK (if code is almost there)19:33
ttxstevebaker: 14 hours ?19:34
ttxIf you approve stuff i'll try to wait for it to land before I cut19:34
stevebakerttx: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/instance-users impacts tripleo (it possibly already is impacting tripleo)19:34
ttxwould be good to get at least a couple of those 6 in, to reduce the impact19:34
stevebakerhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/cloud-init-resource only needs one change approved19:35
ttxstevebaker: as long as it doesn't impact the other integrated projects and does not introduce a gigantic regression risk...19:35
stevebakerttx: so you'll do the cut in about 14 hours? or FF is after the cut?19:35
ttxcut the branch and FF in ~14h19:35
stevebakerok, cool19:35
ttxstevebaker: so do you think you get get a few more in in the remaining time ?19:36
stevebakerttx: I think so, maybe 2 or 3?19:36
ttxstevebaker: would be great19:37
ttxstevebaker: on the bugs side, i'll defer them all to RC1 if they are not fixed by cut time19:37
stevebakerttx: yes please19:37
ttxstevebaker: I may be up early enough tomorrow to talk to you before you go to sleep19:38
ttxcould be useful to sync on what I should wait for and what I should just defer19:38
stevebakerttx: ok, just ping me19:38
ttxstevebaker: anything you'd like to add to the meeting agenda ?19:38
stevebakernothing I can think of19:38
stevebakerI'll be at the TC meeting for the Murano incubation request. Should I only speak when spoken too?19:39
stevebakerto?19:39
ttxstevebaker: no, you can participate19:41
ttxstevebaker: if it becomes too noisy we might restrict to TC members only but so far it never happened19:42
stevebakerok19:42
ttxand your input is valued19:42
ttxstevebaker: ok, see you there then19:42
stevebakerok, see you19:42
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