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| ttx | SlickNik: ok, let's see | 06:36 |
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| ttx | SlickNik: we'll need bugs filed for both of them, and tagged juno-rc-potential | 06:43 |
| SlickNik | ttx: roger that | 06:47 |
| SlickNik | ttx: one of them is https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1380745 | 06:47 |
| SlickNik | ttx: since the other was an incomplete fix, it was checked in against the same bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1379665 | 06:48 |
| ttx | incomplete fixes need to be tracked as separate bugs ideally | 06:49 |
| * ttx looks | 06:49 | |
| SlickNik | ttx: I can open a separate bug for it, since that makes tracking easier. | 06:50 |
| ttx | SlickNik: no, we'll make it work | 06:50 |
| SlickNik | marking that one as juno-rc-potential as well. | 06:51 |
| ttx | They need to make it in master really quickly to be considered for a late respin | 06:51 |
| SlickNik | tagging* | 06:51 |
| ttx | and the backport needs to be obviously safe | 06:51 |
| SlickNik | so the reviews are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128003/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128150/ | 06:52 |
| SlickNik | imo they're pretty safe. | 06:53 |
| ttx | and finally we need to understand why that wasn't detected in geting | 06:54 |
| ttx | gating* | 06:54 |
| ttx | because we don't really want that to happen again | 06:55 |
| SlickNik | Agreed. I looked into it and it's really a fail on our part — we don't have tests checking that particular case in the gate, and a bad merge caused the issue. This is something that we _have_ to fix in Kilo (preferably early on in kilo-1). | 06:59 |
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| mikal | Hello | 07:55 |
| ttx | mikal: o/ | 08:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting ptl_sync | 08:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 14 08:02:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ptl_sync' | 08:02 |
| ttx | #topic Nova | 08:02 |
| mikal | Heya | 08:02 |
| mikal | John is fighting technology, so he might be late | 08:02 |
| ttx | hah | 08:02 |
| ttx | so, RC2 out | 08:03 |
| mikal | Hurrah | 08:03 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=juno-rc-potential | 08:03 |
| ttx | A few bugs there, but nothing mature enough to justify RC3 I'd say | 08:03 |
| mikal | I should read the live migrate one | 08:04 |
| mikal | 1377644 | 08:04 |
| ttx | How up to date are you on the release notes ? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno | 08:04 |
| mikal | Oh, that's the exception thing | 08:04 |
| mikal | So, I need to start on the release notes | 08:04 |
| mikal | Its basically not attempted yet | 08:04 |
| mikal | I do have a summary of landed BPs though | 08:05 |
| ttx | ok, the sooner the better for the release notes, to avoid last-minute edit conflicts | 08:05 |
| mikal | http://www.stillhq.com/openstack/juno/000018.html | 08:05 |
| mikal | So, the "Key New Features" section is just that blog post, right? | 08:05 |
| mikal | Or do I need to stick with the headings there? | 08:06 |
| ttx | no, thta blogpost with a few edits should do | 08:06 |
| mikal | Excellent | 08:06 |
| mikal | I was hopign that was the case | 08:06 |
| ttx | not sure our users care about the migration reserve | 08:06 |
| mikal | I will cut and paste that in now then | 08:06 |
| mikal | Yeah, fair point | 08:06 |
| ttx | and some titles could use a bit of elaboration | 08:06 |
| mikal | That's the problem with including literally all | 08:07 |
| ttx | but the structure should be the same | 08:07 |
| mikal | Well, I shall dump and then iterate | 08:07 |
| ttx | exactly | 08:07 |
| ttx | it's a good first draft :) | 08:07 |
| ttx | starting EOD today we won't respin unless there is some critical issue like catastrophic data loss, or legal problems | 08:08 |
| ttx | or missing files | 08:08 |
| mikal | Ok | 08:08 |
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| ttx | "regular" bugs will be documented as known issues | 08:08 |
| ttx | so that leaves today to do a RC3 over normal regressions | 08:08 |
| ttx | but I wouldn't consider bugs that are not already fixed in master | 08:09 |
| mikal | I have seen zero discussion of requiring a rc3 | 08:09 |
| mikal | So I think we're ok | 08:09 |
| ttx | right | 08:09 |
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| ttx | johnthetubaguy: we were saying nothing justifies a late respin at this point | 08:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ttx: mikal: yeah, I haven't seen anyone screaming about something | 08:10 |
| ttx | johnthetubaguy: we'll keep an eye on that today. Like I told mikal: | 08:11 |
| ttx | starting EOD today we won't respin unless catastrophic dataloss, legal issues, missing files | 08:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | ttx: cool, makes sense | 08:11 |
| ttx | so that leaves today for "normal" respin -- but we wouldn't consider any backport that's not already in master | 08:12 |
| ttx | and lookgin at the list right now, nothing jumps out | 08:12 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED | 08:12 |
| ttx | we'll keep an eye on that list today just in case | 08:13 |
| ttx | OK, anything else ? | 08:13 |
| mikal | For the release or in general? | 08:13 |
| ttx | in general | 08:13 |
| mikal | So, I feel like I need to start paying more attention to the summit schedule | 08:14 |
| mikal | But I will get on that ASAP | 08:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: are we going to cover that in some nova-meeting? | 08:14 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: so, we have a page of ideas | 08:14 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: we now need to work out how to turn that into a thing | 08:14 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: which I guess does involve our meetings | 08:14 |
| ttx | you need to split the topics between scheduled slots and the meetup basically | 08:15 |
| mikal | Yeah | 08:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: yeah, I am thinking we discuss the proposed thing in the nova-meeting, see if people agree | 08:15 |
| mikal | Kyle pinged me about the nova-net upgrade path | 08:15 |
| mikal | I suggested some shared time on Friday | 08:15 |
| mikal | Insteafd of trying to clash with another nova session | 08:15 |
| ttx | scheduled slots are good when the discussion is easily timeboxed and would benefit from being advertised on the schedule (needs nova-external input) | 08:15 |
| mikal | I am not sure the nova-net thing can be timeboxed | 08:15 |
| mikal | I don't have a good read on that | 08:16 |
| ttx | "meetup" slots are good for project process discussion, setting cycle priorities at the end of the week etc | 08:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: some shared nova + neutron meet up time sounds good though, even if its a slot where we have nova sessions and no neutron sessions, or something like that | 08:16 |
| ttx | a number of things obviously fall in the middle between those two extremes | 08:16 |
| mikal | ttx: is neutron two full days of sessions too? | 08:17 |
| ttx | so I would split the ideas between 3 groups | 08:17 |
| mikal | Or is there a gap we could schedule the upgrade thing into? | 08:17 |
| ttx | there is a gap | 08:17 |
| * ttx shares | 08:17 | |
| mikal | Last summit there was a spreadsheet of doom | 08:17 |
| mikal | Do we have one of those again? | 08:17 |
| ttx | yes, see pm | 08:18 |
| mikal | Thanks | 08:18 |
| ttx | from Wed 1:50pm to Thu 10:30 am, no Neutron session | 08:18 |
| mikal | Oh, so Wed arvo might work for example | 08:18 |
| mikal | Cool | 08:18 |
| ttx | the canonical layout is at http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/ now | 08:19 |
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| * ttx spots a few errors in the spreadsheet | 08:19 | |
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| mikal | Oh, nice | 08:20 |
| mikal | Fixy fixy | 08:20 |
| * johnthetubaguy_w lets hope the french don't ban me | 08:20 | |
| mikal | Why would they? | 08:21 |
| mikal | Did you hurt their feelings? | 08:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | lol, no idea | 08:21 |
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| mikal | So, I think we sound like we're done? | 08:21 |
| mikal | Apart from me promising to think more on the summit? | 08:21 |
| mikal | I also intend to announce a mid-cycle meetup real soon now [tm] | 08:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: let us driver folks know how we can help with that | 08:22 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: yrp | 08:23 |
| ttx | mikal: yes done | 08:23 |
| mikal | Basically two companies offered, and then one backed down | 08:23 |
| mikal | So the other wins! | 08:23 |
| ttx | mikal: does your meetup include skiing ? | 08:23 |
| mikal | ttx: no, that's why Company One backed down, too much snow | 08:23 |
| mikal | ttx: so we're going somewhere warm and will revisit Company One in Lemming | 08:24 |
| * johnthetubaguy looks forward to mid-cycle announcement | 08:25 | |
| ttx | alright then, ttyl | 08:25 |
| mikal | Laters! | 08:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | bye | 08:25 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, hey, will any projects have rc3? | 11:23 |
| ttx | Heat already had one | 11:23 |
| ttx | Trove will likely have one too | 11:23 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, heh | 11:23 |
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| eglynn | ttx: knock, knock ... | 11:45 |
| ttx | #topic Ceilometer | 11:45 |
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| ttx | eglynn: howdy | 11:45 |
| ttx | RC2 is out, a few candidates up for RC3 respin | 11:46 |
| eglynn | no shortage of those in Paris :) | 11:46 |
| eglynn | cool, I've no reason to think we'll need a ceilo RC3 | 11:46 |
| eglynn | ... famous last words :) | 11:46 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bugs?field.tag=juno-rc-potential | 11:46 |
| ttx | 1379808 was proposed for backport by jd__ | 11:47 |
| ttx | not sure how blocking it is. It's ont of those that we can't easily backport post-release | 11:47 |
| eglynn | yeah he mentioned it to me also | 11:47 |
| ttx | we can certainly respin quickly in the next hour(s) | 11:48 |
| ttx | if that one is wanted | 11:48 |
| ttx | It's certainly self-contained enough and low risk | 11:48 |
| eglynn | actually now that I'm giving https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1378742 a second look | 11:48 |
| eglynn | hmmm, that one might actually justify respining | 11:49 |
| eglynn | OK, let's go for it since both are very self contained | 11:50 |
| ttx | hmm, ok, let's do it fast | 11:50 |
| eglynn | cool, thanks! | 11:50 |
| ttx | anything else critical in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED ? | 11:50 |
| eglynn | nope, we can live without those | 11:51 |
| ttx | eglynn: ok, propose backport for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126871 now | 11:52 |
| ttx | and we'll push it | 11:52 |
| eglynn | cool, I'm on it | 11:52 |
| ttx | approving julien's one | 11:52 |
| ttx | eglynn: after this one, we'll respin only on showstoppers that can't possibly be documented as known issues | 11:53 |
| ttx | like a legal issue | 11:54 |
| ttx | or a missing file in the tarball | 11:54 |
| ttx | or some catastrophic failure | 11:54 |
| eglynn | got it | 11:54 |
| ttx | so after that backport you should finalize https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno | 11:54 |
| ttx | and then safely proceed to Kilo design summit session planning :) | 11:54 |
| ttx | questions ? | 11:54 |
| eglynn | yeah I've already done a first cut on the release notes | 11:55 |
| eglynn | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno#OpenStack_Telemetry_.28Ceilometer.29 | 11:55 |
| eglynn | nothing else from me | 11:55 |
| ttx | cool, ping me when you have the backport up | 11:56 |
| eglynn | https://review.openstack.org/128249 | 11:57 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: around? | 12:05 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ready when you are | 12:06 |
| dhellmann | ttx: sorry, running late this morning but ready now | 12:24 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo | 12:26 |
| ttx | dhellmann: o/ | 12:26 |
| dhellmann | ttx: o/ | 12:26 |
| ttx | Any red flag from your side ? | 12:26 |
| dhellmann | I think we're fully in Kilo mode. I'm not aware of any major issues. | 12:27 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I actually had a question for you about openstack/requirements | 12:27 |
| dhellmann | k | 12:27 |
| ttx | there seems to be some confusion about the use of it by non-integrated projects | 12:27 |
| ttx | random projects asking for additional requirements that are not actually wanted by integrated projects | 12:28 |
| ttx | It feels like we supported that in the past but are clamping down | 12:28 |
| dhellmann | yeah, they used to need to be included for the mirror | 12:28 |
| ttx | but they don't anymore ? | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | no, we have a full pypi mirror now | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | I forget which package we're using, bandersnatch maybe? | 12:29 |
| ttx | so why are they asking ? | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | we had built our own before | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | there are a couple of reasons | 12:29 |
| ttx | do they have some stale requirements check job ? | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | the doc team wants to sync requirements into their projects | 12:29 |
| dhellmann | they have 10+ repos | 12:30 |
| dhellmann | fungi, AJaeger, and I sort of decided yesterday that would be ok to keep doing, since debian at least does build the docs | 12:30 |
| ttx | so ideally a project could "consume" common requirements and add extra ones on their side | 12:30 |
| dhellmann | well, the way it is built now, it's all or nothing | 12:30 |
| dhellmann | hrm, maybe that's not true | 12:31 |
| dhellmann | we could have the sync job run but leave the check job out of the project | 12:31 |
| ttx | dhellmann: how about we abuse the crossproject meeting today to discuss that a bit ? Unless the release is on fire | 12:31 |
| dhellmann | of course that means they couldn't have a different version of anything than we have globally | 12:31 |
| dhellmann | that works, although I think the projects that care won't necessarily be in the meeting | 12:31 |
| dhellmann | solum was another one that came up | 12:32 |
| ttx | sure, it's more so that infra/QA/us are all on the same page before we push that down their throats | 12:32 |
| dhellmann | makes sense -- I thought the decision was already more or less agreed to, but let's confirm that instead of me assuming it | 12:32 |
| ttx | currently I'm not even sure what to answer them ;) | 12:32 |
| ttx | cool. | 12:33 |
| ttx | Anything else ? | 12:33 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I'm here, sorry for the delay, forgot to enable notifications :( | 12:33 |
| dhellmann | I'll remind everyone to send liaisons, but otherwise nothing | 12:33 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok, have a good day then | 12:34 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: hi! | 12:34 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ditto | 12:34 |
| ttx | #topic Sahara | 12:34 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: haven't seen anything justifying a RC3 ? | 12:34 |
| ttx | Nothing in rc-potential, a few bugs fixed in master but nothing stand out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED | 12:34 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, we have a regression with direct engine and nova-network, but I don't think that we need to delay release because of it | 12:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I think we'll test and bacl port it to stable/juno | 12:35 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: is that fixed in master already? | 12:35 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, not yet | 12:35 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: ok, then it shall be documented as a known issue in the release notes | 12:35 |
| ttx | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno | 12:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, the fix will be not very safe, so, yeah, we'll document it | 12:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, we have release notes draft https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sahara/ReleaseNotes/Juno | 12:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, will move it today to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno | 12:36 |
| ttx | sounds good | 12:36 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: anything else ? | 12:36 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, I think nope, everything going well | 12:37 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: you'll have to start working on summit agenda | 12:37 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that's true for you as well ^ | 12:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, in fact this regression is with the deprecated non-heat engine with custom configs, so, non critical | 12:37 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, already working on it, should have a good results for the next meeting | 12:37 |
| dhellmann | ttx: we've started | 12:37 |
| ttx | ok, let me know if you have questions | 12:38 |
| ttx | I'll send you all an email with the link to the website where you can update the (tbd) sessions | 12:38 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, ack, thx | 12:38 |
| ttx | when the final schedule is ready | 12:38 |
| ttx | mestery, nikhil_k: ping me when around so that we anticipate your need for RC3 | 12:40 |
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| mestery | ttx: pong | 13:24 |
| ttx | mestery: hey, wanted to ask you in advance of our sync if you think we'll need a RC3 | 13:27 |
| ttx | if yes, we want to push it to gate asap | 13:27 |
| mestery | It's not looking likely, there were no release critical bugs we as a team could find in our meeting yesterday | 13:27 |
| mestery | I think we're good with RC2 being Juno final. | 13:27 |
| mestery | A quick search this morning didn't turn anything up either. | 13:28 |
| ttx | Someone proposed https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1378525 for backport | 13:28 |
| ttx | should we still ignore that ? | 13:28 |
| mestery | Yes, we spoke about that one, and we determined it can be release noted. | 13:28 |
| mestery | I'll comment in the bug | 13:28 |
| ttx | mestery: ok then | 13:28 |
| ttx | mestery: we can formally do our sync now if that suits you | 13:29 |
| mestery | ttx: Actually, one sec, looking at the bug. | 13:29 |
| mestery | It's a 1 line change. | 13:29 |
| mestery | Hmmm .... | 13:29 |
| mestery | Still not sure it's worth spinning a new release for. | 13:29 |
| mestery | And yes, lets sync now. | 13:29 |
| ttx | #topic Neutron | 13:29 |
| ttx | It's sufficiently self-contained that we can respin on that, if you think it's a critical issue | 13:30 |
| mestery | Let me talk to Akihiro, he made a comment about Horizon. | 13:30 |
| mestery | I will know in < 1 hour I think once I get a hold of him. | 13:30 |
| mestery | I agree, it may be worth respinning just for this bug since it's contained. | 13:31 |
| mestery | Shall I propose the cherry-pick in anticipation? | 13:31 |
| ttx | it's already cherrypicked | 13:31 |
| mestery | Ah, cool. :) | 13:31 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126711/ | 13:31 |
| mestery | Perfect. | 13:31 |
| ttx | so it's not too disruptive as long as we push it now | 13:32 |
| mestery | Right. | 13:32 |
| mestery | I'll know soon. | 13:32 |
| ttx | <1 hour is probably ok | 13:32 |
| ttx | checking https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED for other easy ones | 13:32 |
| mestery | Me too | 13:33 |
| mestery | Sukhdev asked me to consider this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1373652 | 13:33 |
| mestery | It's a larger change, but contained to the Arista driver | 13:33 |
| mestery | I'm inclined to include that one if you are ok with it. | 13:34 |
| ttx | looking | 13:34 |
| ttx | more risky | 13:34 |
| ttx | also easily backportable imho | 13:35 |
| ttx | and documenatble | 13:35 |
| mestery | Yeah, lets leave it. | 13:35 |
| mestery | I agree | 13:35 |
| mestery | and .1 is 6 weeks out or so? | 13:35 |
| mestery | So it's fine to land then. | 13:35 |
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| mestery | With more testing, etc. | 13:35 |
| ttx | yeah | 13:35 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1232525 maybe | 13:36 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1365226 also | 13:36 |
| ttx | although it's probably just cosmetic | 13:36 |
| mestery | Yes to 1232525, it may make backports easier | 13:37 |
| mestery | What about 1365226? | 13:37 |
| ttx | hmm, was never merged to master ? | 13:38 |
| * mestery checks again | 13:38 | |
| mestery | Right | 13:38 |
| mestery | Sorry | 13:38 |
| mestery | :) | 13:38 |
| ttx | bit weird | 13:38 |
| ttx | oh, driver removed | 13:38 |
| ttx | bah | 13:38 |
| ttx | so just one, if you confirm it | 13:39 |
| mestery | Yeah | 13:39 |
| ttx | unless we also do 1232525 | 13:39 |
| mestery | Yes, I think 1232525 is good as well | 13:39 |
| mestery | I am ok with that one, and I can propose the cherry-pick this morning yet | 13:39 |
| ttx | propose it now, add the bug reference to the commit message | 13:39 |
| ttx | if it's ready when the other is, it won't delay | 13:40 |
| mestery | Ack | 13:40 |
| ttx | #info Potential RC3 over 1378525 and 1232525, to be confirmed in the next hour | 13:40 |
| ttx | mestery: what's the state of your release notes ? | 13:41 |
| mestery | ttx: I was going to release note the L3 HA bug, but now we're merging it. Otherwise, I'll take another run at them today. | 13:42 |
| mestery | They are in good shape, but I'll confirm today. | 13:42 |
| ttx | ok, then you need to start working on the design summit agenda | 13:43 |
| ttx | once the release is mostly done | 13:43 |
| mestery | Way ahead of you :) | 13:43 |
| mestery | We have that almost wrapped too | 13:43 |
| mestery | On an etherpad | 13:43 |
| mestery | By end of tomorrow it will be finalized I think | 13:43 |
| mestery | :) | 13:43 |
| mestery | ttx: https://review.openstack.org/128288 | 13:44 |
| ttx | mestery: OK, let's wait until we confirm the RC3 | 13:45 |
| mestery | ttx: Ack | 13:45 |
| mestery | But it's in the queue now at least | 13:45 |
| ttx | ok then, let me know when you've come to a decision about it | 13:45 |
| mestery | ttx: Will do, email out to amotoki. | 13:46 |
| mestery | ttx: The default is we don't do it, which is fine too. | 13:46 |
| ttx | agreed | 13:46 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ready when you are | 13:47 |
| mestery | ttx: Thanks! | 13:47 |
| mestery | ttx: amotoki just confirmed, RC3 is good to go, lets merge those two fixes. | 13:58 |
| ttx | ok, opening | 13:58 |
| mestery | ttx: ACK | 13:59 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-rc3 | 14:00 |
| mestery | Looks good ttx, thanks! | 14:01 |
| mestery | ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126711/ you can merge this one now or remove your -2. | 14:01 |
| mestery | ttx: jinx ;) | 14:02 |
| ttx | gating | 14:02 |
| ttx | jgriffith: around? | 14:02 |
| mestery | ttx: Thanks! | 14:02 |
| ttx | will tag as soon as those two merge | 14:02 |
| ttx | although there is quite a bit of delay in the post queue right now | 14:03 |
| mestery | ttx: Lets hope it makes the journey safely. | 14:05 |
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| ttx | dolphm: ready when you are | 14:14 |
| morganfainberg | ttx, o/ here as well. | 14:14 |
| dolphm | ttx: o/ | 14:14 |
| ttx | morganfainberg: o/ | 14:14 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone | 14:14 |
| ttx | Looks like you're good? | 14:14 |
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| dolphm | i believe so! | 14:14 |
| dolphm | no reason for an rc3 at this point | 14:14 |
| ttx | so.. by EOD today we'll only respin on show stoppers, like legal issues, missing files in tarballs etc | 14:15 |
| ttx | everything else will go to known issues in the release notes | 14:15 |
| ttx | Looks like your release notes are mostly ready ? | 14:16 |
| ttx | dolphm ? morganfainberg ? | 14:18 |
| morganfainberg | ttx, looking at release notes, but i think so | 14:19 |
| ttx | OK. How is summit planning going ? | 14:19 |
| morganfainberg | ttx, have most of the sessions lined up wiht one open slot to be discussed at the keystone meeting today | 14:19 |
| morganfainberg | ttx, descriptions and specific time slots are still variable, at the top of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-keystone-summit-topics i've added a tentative list/schedule | 14:20 |
| morganfainberg | when is the "move this stuff to the actual schedule" date? | 14:21 |
| ttx | I'll send info on how to push updates to the schedule | 14:21 |
| morganfainberg | k | 14:21 |
| ttx | date would be between reception of email and one week before summit starts | 14:21 |
| morganfainberg | ttx, ack | 14:21 |
| ttx | any other question ? | 14:21 |
| morganfainberg | i think thats it for me. | 14:22 |
| ttx | anything you'd like to discuss at the meeting today ? | 14:22 |
| ttx | ok then, talk to you later! | 14:22 |
| morganfainberg | oh, once we move to kilo, mind changing this time slot? | 14:22 |
| ttx | not at all. | 14:22 |
| morganfainberg | it's going to be 0615 for me once we timeshift | 14:22 |
| morganfainberg | a bit early :) | 14:22 |
| ttx | we'll discuss the reshuffle them all with the DST end anyway | 14:22 |
| morganfainberg | sounds good! | 14:22 |
| morganfainberg | I'll bring up that keystone team should do a once over on the release notes today at the meeting, but thye look complete to me. | 14:24 |
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| ttx | david-lyle: ready when you are | 14:25 |
| david-lyle | ttx: ready | 14:25 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon | 14:25 |
| ttx | RC2 is out | 14:25 |
| ttx | rc-potential has https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1379761 | 14:26 |
| david-lyle | yes, this has to be fixed | 14:26 |
| ttx | or documented, if we can't get it fixed in time | 14:26 |
| david-lyle | can't run Horizon without DEBUG=True in the settings for Django, which is bad | 14:26 |
| ttx | david-lyle: how is the fix looking so far ? | 14:27 |
| david-lyle | complicating factor is that the broken code is in a dependency | 14:27 |
| ttx | I prefer to wait for the fix to land in master before opening formally an RC3 window (prefer not to open windows I don't know how to close) | 14:27 |
| david-lyle | may require a monkey patch to get Juno released and fix appropriately upstream | 14:28 |
| dolphm | ttx: (bah, sorry for dissappearing, but everything sounds good. thanks morganfainberg!) | 14:28 |
| david-lyle | I don't have a fix yet, still working through cleaner ways of working around upstream bug | 14:28 |
| david-lyle | I don't mind waiting on the RC3 window until we have a fix | 14:29 |
| ttx | hmm, ok | 14:29 |
| david-lyle | we can't really release without a fix | 14:29 |
| david-lyle | unfortunately | 14:30 |
| ttx | is that something we could have detected earlier ? | 14:30 |
| david-lyle | most likely, but it's an odd issue | 14:30 |
| david-lyle | we needed to run this as a production release | 14:30 |
| david-lyle | the upstream code just punted when they didn't really understand django settings | 14:31 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, so ideally we need that fix propoesed, reviewed and merged today | 14:32 |
| ttx | does that look even doable ? | 14:32 |
| david-lyle | that's my hope | 14:32 |
| david-lyle | it may not be elegant, but we should have something that works | 14:32 |
| ttx | that's for some large definition of "today" -- meaning I can get up tomorrow morning and get the backport in | 14:32 |
| ttx | so getting it proposed and reviewed by your EOD should be enough | 14:33 |
| david-lyle | ok | 14:33 |
| ttx | anythign else ? How are your release notes coming up ? | 14:34 |
| ttx | hmm, more work needed there but if everything goes ok today you should have time for that tomorrow | 14:34 |
| ttx | or find someone to delegate that to | 14:34 |
| david-lyle | I have them mostly completed, just a little cleanup and I can add them | 14:34 |
| ttx | ok, cool | 14:34 |
| ttx | then post-release you can focus on yoru design summit session schedule :) | 14:35 |
| ttx | your* | 14:35 |
| david-lyle | maybe we'll have that figured out by Nov ;) | 14:35 |
| ttx | ok, questions? | 14:35 |
| david-lyle | nope | 14:36 |
| david-lyle | going to go tackle a bug | 14:36 |
| ttx | go go go | 14:36 |
| david-lyle | talk to you later | 14:36 |
| ttx | ack | 14:36 |
| ttx | jgriffith: around now ? | 14:36 |
| nikhil_k|afk | ttx: hi | 14:51 |
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| ttx | nikhil_k: hi! | 14:51 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: could we sync early to discuss a potential Glance RC3 ? | 14:52 |
| ttx | (i.e. now ?) | 14:52 |
| nikhil_k | yeah sure | 14:52 |
| nikhil_k | was just saying.. | 14:52 |
| ttx | #topic Glance | 14:52 |
| nikhil_k | I'm a bit uncertain either way about | 14:52 |
| nikhil_k | oh ok :) | 14:52 |
| nikhil_k | RC3 ! | 14:52 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bugs?field.tag=juno-rc-potential | 14:52 |
| ttx | there aren't so many fixed bugs in that list | 14:53 |
| ttx | anything that would make it worth our effort ? | 14:53 |
| ttx | 1361613 is a doc fix that we could add IF we respinned for other reasons | 14:54 |
| nikhil_k | hmm | 14:54 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: today is the last day to respin over bugs | 14:54 |
| ttx | after that ikt's show stoppers onlyu | 14:54 |
| ttx | err | 14:55 |
| ttx | "after that it's show stoopers only" | 14:55 |
| ttx | damn it :) | 14:55 |
| ttx | "after that it's show stoppers only" | 14:55 |
| nikhil_k | heh, np | 14:55 |
| nikhil_k | we need this one 1380689 | 14:55 |
| ttx | everything else shall be documented as "known issues" in the release notes | 14:55 |
| nikhil_k | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1380689 | 14:55 |
| nikhil_k | oh hmm | 14:56 |
| ttx | we need it in master asap | 14:56 |
| ttx | then if it makes it, we can discuss backporting | 14:57 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: ok, let me see if we can make it today | 14:57 |
| ttx | So at this point I'd work to get 1361613 and 1380689 in | 14:57 |
| nikhil_k | am not sure if people would like to argue over it | 14:57 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: sounds good | 14:58 |
| nikhil_k | reconvene in a couple of hours? | 14:58 |
| ttx | if done in a few hours (merged by the project meeting today) then we could do a respin with 1380552 1361613 1380689 | 14:58 |
| ttx | (https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1380552 has a proposed backport already) | 14:59 |
| ttx | hmm although it might not be warranted at this point | 15:00 |
| ttx | bah, we'll see once you get 1361613 and 1380689 approved and merged | 15:01 |
| ttx | #info Potential RC3 over 1361613 and 1380689 | 15:01 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: yes, will ping you later | 15:01 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: thanks for the info! cya in a bit | 15:02 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: thx! | 15:02 |
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| notmyname | ttx: are we on today? | 15:34 |
| ttx | notmyname: we are | 15:34 |
| ttx | #topic Swift | 15:34 |
| notmyname | hello! | 15:34 |
| ttx | sorry was busy announcing ceilo rc3 | 15:34 |
| ttx | How is you RC1 doing | 15:34 |
| notmyname | no worries. I don't actually have much | 15:34 |
| ttx | your* | 15:34 |
| notmyname | other than mea culpa on LP stuff | 15:34 |
| ttx | 2 days left :) | 15:34 |
| notmyname | everything looks good from what I've seen | 15:35 |
| notmyname | for the RC | 15:35 |
| ttx | also your release notes section could use some extra love | 15:35 |
| notmyname | nothing has come up | 15:35 |
| notmyname | ah? what's the link there? | 15:35 |
| ttx | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno#OpenStack_Object_Storage_.28Swift.29 | 15:35 |
| ttx | Key new feature section is a bit empty | 15:35 |
| notmyname | oh yeah. that's easy to do | 15:35 |
| ttx | that's about it | 15:35 |
| ttx | Will promote RC1 on Thursdau morning unless you yell | 15:36 |
| notmyname | our plan for the summit is to continue to gather topics this week and start scheduling next | 15:36 |
| notmyname | ack | 15:36 |
| ttx | sounds good | 15:36 |
| ttx | anything you'd like to discuss at the meeting today ? | 15:36 |
| notmyname | nothing comes to mind | 15:37 |
| ttx | notmyname: alright then | 15:37 |
| ttx | talk to you later! | 15:37 |
| ttx | jgriffith: around now ? | 15:37 |
| notmyname | :-) | 15:37 |
| ttx | zaneb: ready when you are | 15:38 |
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| ttx | no zaneb, no jgriffith ? | 15:51 |
| zaneb | I'm here | 15:52 |
| zaneb | sorry | 15:52 |
| ttx | oh here he is | 15:52 |
| ttx | #topic Heat | 15:52 |
| zaneb | not sure how I missed that notification | 15:52 |
| ttx | Nothing in rc-potential | 15:52 |
| zaneb | \o/ | 15:52 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128159/ was proposed for backport, without a bug reference | 15:52 |
| ttx | feels like a bit overkill for juno, good to land early i nkilo | 15:53 |
| zaneb | yeah, I'm not aware of a reason to rush it | 15:53 |
| zaneb | unless it is going to break tests or something | 15:53 |
| ttx | anything critical elsewhere justifying a late RC4 ? | 15:54 |
| ttx | Note that by EOD today we'll only respin for show stoppers | 15:54 |
| ttx | everything else will just be documented as known issue in release note | 15:54 |
| zaneb | not that I know of | 15:54 |
| zaneb | I think rc3 should be final | 15:54 |
| ttx | I'll take that answer and run with it. I have more than enough RC3s baking right now | 15:54 |
| ttx | You started working on the release notes, though I suspect they could use extra info | 15:55 |
| ttx | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno#OpenStack_Orchestration_.28Heat.29 | 15:55 |
| ttx | Questions on the release ? | 15:55 |
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| zaneb | hmm, *I* didn't start that :D | 15:56 |
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| zaneb | nope, no questions | 15:56 |
| ttx | zaneb: ok, so spend some time on release notes asap | 15:56 |
| zaneb | will do | 15:56 |
| ttx | before you get into locking conflicts | 15:56 |
| ttx | Anything you'd like to discuss at meeting today ? | 15:56 |
| zaneb | no | 15:56 |
| ttx | Once the release is past us, we should work on finalizing the design summit agenda, but that's more for asaskeld | 15:57 |
| ttx | zaneb: ok, thx! | 15:57 |
| zaneb | yeah, he started an etherpad but there's a bunch more discussion needed | 15:57 |
| zaneb | cool, thanks ttx | 15:57 |
| ttx | markwash__: I discussed Glance release with nikhil_k earlier | 15:58 |
| ttx | considering a RC3 over bugs 1361613 and 1380689 | 15:58 |
| ttx | but some progress is needed on master instead -- so i'll sync again with Nikhil in a few hours | 15:59 |
| ttx | SlickNik, jgriffith: ready when you are | 15:59 |
| SlickNik | ttx o/ | 16:03 |
| ttx | #topic Trove | 16:04 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bugs?field.tag=juno-rc-potential | 16:04 |
| ttx | so the second bug is gating | 16:04 |
| SlickNik | Just the two I was talking to you earlier about. | 16:04 |
| ttx | I think we have time for a RC3 then | 16:05 |
| ttx | SlickNik: could you propose both backports ? | 16:05 |
| SlickNik | Yup, working on the cherry picks now. | 16:05 |
| ttx | that way they will run through check while the last change merges in master | 16:05 |
| ttx | cool | 16:05 |
| ttx | Let me open RC3 | 16:06 |
| ttx | It's up https://launchpad.net/trove/+milestone/juno-rc3 | 16:07 |
| SlickNik | Let me target the bugs to that. | 16:07 |
| ttx | done already | 16:07 |
| SlickNik | Awesome, thank you! | 16:08 |
| ttx | ok, so get the backports up and I'll take it from there. Keep an eye on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128150/ just in case it needs a recheck | 16:08 |
| ttx | then you can switch to updating https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Juno#OpenStack_Database_service_.28Trove.29 | 16:09 |
| SlickNik | Cool, sounds good. Thanks so much for your help with this ttx! | 16:09 |
| ttx | no problem! cheers | 16:10 |
| ttx | SlickNik: hmm wait | 16:10 |
| ttx | SlickNik: what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1333852 | 16:10 |
| ttx | feels like this bug has been flying under the radar | 16:11 |
| ttx | anything we can do at this point apart from documenting it as a known issue ? | 16:12 |
| ttx | jgriffith: last call | 16:12 |
| ttx | jgriffith: I'll be back in a few hours, we can talk then | 16:13 |
| SlickNik | ttx: that's a tricky issue. We've talked about it before, but looks like we don't yet have a fix ready. | 16:13 |
| SlickNik | ttx: It has API compat implications which make it a bit tricky. | 16:13 |
| ttx | SlickNik: ok, so I propose the following: explain why it's a tricky issue, maybe raise priority, and document it as known issue in release notes ? | 16:14 |
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| ttx | (explanation and raise prio would happen on the LP bug) | 16:14 |
| SlickNik | ttx: That sounds good. I will do that. | 16:14 |
| SlickNik | ttx: I'll also follow up to see that someone is working on fixing it early in Kilo. | 16:14 |
| ttx | ok | 16:15 |
| ttx | I think part of the issue here is users feeling like they are not getting any attention | 16:15 |
| ttx | due to lack of feedback on that bug | 16:15 |
| ttx | SlickNik: thx! | 16:15 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 16:15 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 14 16:15:40 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-10-14-08.02.html | 16:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-10-14-08.02.txt | 16:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-10-14-08.02.log.html | 16:15 |
| ttx | SlickNik: ping me when you have the backports up | 16:16 |
| SlickNik | ttx: will do, thanks! | 16:16 |
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| SlickNik | ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128352/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128360/ are the backports. | 16:52 |
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| Kiall | ttx: about? | 17:49 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: Finally in, lemme know if you still want to sync up | 18:47 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: still around? | 19:36 |
| ttx | Kiall: around now | 19:36 |
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| ttx | nikhil_k: you need to line up +2s on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128369/ | 19:39 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: I'd asked for them | 19:39 |
| nikhil_k | seems like we'r out of core reviewers today | 19:40 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: how much time do we have? | 19:40 |
| ttx | you have until the end of the day, I'd say | 19:40 |
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| nikhil_k | ttx: well, if nothing works I think we can go ahead w/o them | 19:43 |
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| ttx | nikhil_k: yes, that would be plan B | 19:43 |
| ttx | if we can't get them in master today, we don't do RC3 | 19:44 |
| ttx | and promote rc2 | 19:44 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: works | 19:44 |
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| ttx | david-lyle: any progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1379761 ? | 19:46 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: sounds like we have sync problems. I sent you an email. | 19:54 |
| jgriffith | ttx: my bad | 19:54 |
| ttx | jgriffith: oh, here you are | 19:54 |
| ttx | please read the email I just sent | 19:54 |
| ttx | jgriffith: shall we do a RC3 over https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1379830 ? | 19:54 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: how much turmoil will ensue? | 19:55 |
| jgriffith | ttx: It's obviously a big deal if somebody tries to use VMWare | 19:56 |
| ttx | jgriffith: not too much, since the patch is already in master, I can tag the RC3 tomorrow morning | 19:56 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: then I'd say yes | 19:56 |
| ttx | the main issue is that we restore the original bug | 19:56 |
| jgriffith | ttx: how do you mean? | 19:56 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: so this is where I'm a bit unsure | 19:57 |
| ttx | the reverted commit was supposed to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1301348 | 19:57 |
| jgriffith | ttx: when I first looked I didn't think the original change went in | 19:57 |
| jgriffith | ttx: eek | 19:57 |
| jgriffith | ttx: ok | 19:58 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'll restore that in Launch Pad right now | 19:58 |
| ttx | jgriffith: what do you mean ? | 19:58 |
| jgriffith | ttx: well it's no longer "fixed" | 19:58 |
| jgriffith | ttx: as per Launchpad | 19:58 |
| jgriffith | ttx: due to the revert | 19:59 |
| ttx | Hmm, ok | 19:59 |
| jgriffith | ttx: that's what I've done in the past anyway... granted I haven't had this during RC though | 19:59 |
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| ttx | So the question is, is the new bug worse than the original one | 20:00 |
| ttx | I suspect yes ? | 20:00 |
| jgriffith | ttx: yes, for sure | 20:00 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ok then propose the backport of the revert now | 20:00 |
| jgriffith | ttx: will do | 20:00 |
| ttx | I'll open a RC3 with it | 20:00 |
| ttx | do you want anything lese in the RC3 ? | 20:00 |
| jgriffith | the second one might as well go in while we're at it | 20:01 |
| ttx | someone proposed https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1365884 for backport | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | I wouldn't open for it but won't block it either | 20:01 |
| ttx | I'd keep it out personally | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | ttx: sold | 20:01 |
| ttx | it's not "obviously safe" | 20:01 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ping me when the backport is in | 20:02 |
| jgriffith | ttx: ping | 20:03 |
| ttx | heh, great | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'll shout when it merges | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | ttx: that's probably what you actually meant :) | 20:03 |
| ttx | I'll be sleeping by then, will cvatch it tomorrow morning | 20:04 |
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| ttx | mestery: neutron RC3 looks good to go | 20:17 |
| mestery | ttx: Ack! | 20:23 |
| ttx | on its way | 20:24 |
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| ttx | david-lyle: let me know if you're amking any progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1379761 | 20:39 |
| ttx | some people seem to fail to reproduce | 20:40 |
| david-lyle | ttx: potentially devstack specifi | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | c | 20:48 |
| david-lyle | in that case, I certainly wouldn't hold the release on it | 20:48 |
| ttx | david-lyle: nor respin a RC I guess | 20:49 |
| david-lyle | that's my hope. I'm still playing with it, I'll update the status either way here in a bit | 20:50 |
| ttx | david-lyle: ok, keep me posted | 20:50 |
| david-lyle | ack | 20:50 |
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| ttx | david-lyle: reading from the bug, at the very least there seems to be ways to work around the issue, which makes a release note viable (if the bug is real) | 21:17 |
| david-lyle | yes, seems offline compression is very much an option | 21:18 |
| david-lyle | online compression also seems to work in some cases | 21:18 |
| david-lyle | most/all deployers use offline compression, if offline works, we can ship, online is a convenience mostly | 21:19 |
| ttx | david-lyle: setting that issue aside, RC2 is good to promote to final from your perspective ? | 21:22 |
| ttx | i.e. is that the only bug we had under consideration? | 21:22 |
| david-lyle | there was another minor issue for a last minute neutron change, but we can release note that too, relatively minor | 21:23 |
| david-lyle | L3 HA related | 21:23 |
| ttx | oh, that thing | 21:23 |
| ttx | yeah, we can releasenote it | 21:23 |
| ttx | and fix postrelease if we can | 21:23 |
| david-lyle | ttx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1378525 | 21:24 |
| david-lyle | was that one | 21:24 |
| david-lyle | yup | 21:24 |
| ttx | david-lyle: yeah we respineed neutron over that one earlier | 21:25 |
| ttx | david-lyle: I'll let you investigate a bit more -- at the end of your day, could you send me an email with where you stand on 1379761 ? So that I can make the right decisions while you sleep ? | 21:25 |
| david-lyle | ttx: will do | 21:26 |
| ttx | At this point I'm pretty sure it wil be "there is a weird corner case here and here it is documented in release notes", but better safe than sorry | 21:26 |
| ttx | david-lyle: thx | 21:26 |
| david-lyle | ttx: that seems to be the case, just didn't want to ship something DOA | 21:27 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: still no luck getting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128373/ reviewed? | 21:46 |
| ttx | markwash__: could you lend a hand there ^ | 21:47 |
| ttx | Hmm actually you want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128369/ reviewed | 21:47 |
| markwash__ | hand lent | 21:49 |
| ttx | markwash__: actually it was on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128369/ | 21:49 |
| markwash__ | hands lent | 21:49 |
| ttx | but you did | 21:49 |
| markwash__ | they appeared to be the same and L'dGTM | 21:50 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: so you could make an executive call and self +2 yourself due to absence of core reviewers at a critical time | 21:50 |
| markwash__ | +1 partial ninja | 21:50 |
| ttx | nikhil_k: or send some kind of email to china-located glance-core for help | 21:51 |
| ttx | or stay up late and talk to them. | 21:51 |
| * ttx jumps in bed | 21:52 | |
| nikhil_k | ttx: markwash__ : heh, thanks! | 22:00 |
| nikhil_k | ttx: that'd be in gate now | 22:02 |
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