Thursday, 2014-12-11

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redroboto/16:02
ttxredrobot: o/16:02
ttx#startmeeting incub_sync16:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Dec 11 16:02:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'incub_sync'16:02
ttxsorry was lost in a IRC rant16:03
ttx#topic Barbican16:03
redrobotnp16:03
ttxChecked jobs and tarball contents in prep for k1 next week16:03
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ttxlooks like you're all good (not just you)16:03
redrobotYeah, should be good to go16:03
ttxThe process is that sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday, when you're happy with the state of master and you're not waiting for zuul to chow your last +2, you can send me the SHA16:04
ttxand I'll push the tag and do the Launchpad magic16:04
ttxdoes that work for you ?16:04
redrobotYeah, I'll probably be emailing you.  I'm traveling next week, and my internet access will be limited16:05
ttxthat's fine16:05
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/kilo-116:05
ttxHow is replace-concept-of-tenants-for-projects doing ?16:05
ttxall changes proposed under that topic merged... more to come ?16:06
redrobotI think there's one more pending for the test suite16:06
redrobotI think it should be up for review in the next day or two16:06
ttxok, so we'll try to include that one in the tag16:07
ttxanything else coming up ? Or that will be k1 ?16:07
redrobotThere may be a bug or two in flight, but no other BPs16:08
ttxsure, committed bugs will get auto-added by the script anyway16:09
ttxso that's fine16:09
ttxquestions about the process for next week ?16:09
redrobotnope, I think it usually goes pretty smoothly16:09
ttxFeel free to communicate the SHA as early as Tuesday16:09
redrobotSure thing.16:10
ttxI won't mind some early start16:10
redrobotI'll probably miss the 1:1 next week.16:10
ttxredrobot: fine too.16:10
ttxwe'll probably skip it for those who communicated tags already16:10
redrobotI'm assuming no 1:1 Christmas Day and New Year's?16:10
bswartzlol good point16:11
ttxyep, next is 8th16:11
bswartzholidays on Thursday this year16:11
ttx#topic Manila16:11
ttxredrobot: thx!16:11
ttxbswartz: o/16:11
bswartzhi16:11
ttxI checked all CI and we should be OK for tarballs and stuff16:11
bswartzso we did the great k-1 purge today16:11
bswartza bunch of stuff got pushed out to k-216:11
ttxso like I told redrobot:16:11
ttxThe process is that sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday, when you're happy with the state of master and you're not waiting for zuul to chow your last +2, you can send me the SHA16:12
ttxand I'll push the tag and do the Launchpad magic16:12
bswartzokay16:12
ttxyou can send an email16:12
ttxor ping me on IRC with SHA16:12
bswartzalright16:12
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-116:12
bswartzeverything that remains here has a good chance of merging in the next 4 days16:13
ttxalright, let's try this :)16:13
ttxworst case scenario we'll bump them at this 1:1 sync next Thursday16:13
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bswartzokay16:14
bswartzfrom your perspective, is there any difference between how milestones 1, 2, and 3 are run?16:14
ttxfrom the release management perspective, 1 and 2 are the same16:15
bswartzobviously milestone 4 has a very different flavor16:15
ttx3 triggers feature freeze (generally)16:15
ttxwe don't really have a 4, we have a RC1, and that's when we craete the proposed/$SRIES branch16:15
bswartzright16:15
bswartzare you involved with the FFE process, or is that left to the teams?16:16
ttxbut the process for "publishing" 3 is the same as 1 and 216:16
ttxI am involved to help PTLs in already-integrated projects16:16
ttxbut that obvisouly doesn't scale16:16
bswartzok16:16
bswartzI've been following some of the TC and crossproject meetings16:17
ttxincubated projects traditionally handled them themselves, with advice from me16:17
ttxI think soon every project will do the same16:17
bswartzwe don't yet follow some processes, such as the specs repo16:17
bswartzis that going to become mandatory at some point?16:17
ttxbswartz: I don't expect it to become mandatory no16:17
bswartzokay16:18
ttxwe are going towards more acceptance of divergent processes rather than less :)16:18
bswartzfor the most part we try to do things the way cinder does them, but with less heavy handed deadlines and fewer requirements on vendors16:18
ttxsounds good16:18
bswartzmaybe in the long run we will have to adopt cinder's policies16:18
ttxso for the FFE it will be mostly your call (and your delegates call)16:19
ttxI can advise but I shouldn't be the blocker16:19
bswartzI saw jeblair's change last week regarding the tarball release, thanks for making that happen16:19
ttxthe only reason I was so heavily involved in FFE was to guarantee some level of quality and that we hit the deadline16:20
bswartzare you pretty confident that we'll get a k-1 tarball that packagers can accept?16:20
ttxIf I can teach people to fish, won't have to go that much to sea myself.16:20
bswartzheh16:20
ttxwell, I know we'll get a tarball. No idea if it is usable :)16:20
bswartzheh16:20
bswartzokay I guess we'll have to just hope16:21
bswartzso let's keep this meeting next week16:21
ttxyou could toss http://tarballs.openstack.org/manila/manila-master.tar.gz to prospective packagers and ask them16:21
bswartzyes16:21
ttxif they feel anything is missing16:21
ttxthey usually hang out in #openstack-stable16:21
bswartzI know who they are -- I'll speak to some of them16:21
ttxok, time is up, talk to you next week ?16:21
ttxflaper87: around ?16:22
bswartzyep16:22
bswartzthanks16:22
ttxbswartz: thx!16:22
flaper87ttx: yes16:22
ttx#topic Zaqar16:22
ttxflaper87: next week, k116:23
flaper87moment of truth16:23
ttxflaper87: I'll push a tag sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday, as soon as you send me a SHA16:23
ttxso whenever you're happy with what you have in master...16:23
ttxjust let me know16:23
flaper87ttx: roger16:23
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/zaqar/+milestone/kilo-116:23
flaper87those bps that seem not to have info, actually are in progress16:24
flaper87there's still chance for them to land16:24
ttxok, we should fix those then16:24
flaper87yes16:24
ttxhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/zaqar/+spec/disable-sqlalchemy-as-pool16:24
ttxobviously at least Started16:24
flaper87fixed :P16:24
flaper87I'll do a ping-check on Monday during our meeting16:25
ttxShould I set the two Undefined to "Low" prio ?16:25
flaper87if I don't get an answer, I'll move them16:25
flaper87I just set MEdium16:25
ttxYes, you should decide at that meeting if they are in the pipe and we should wait for them... or shoul djust be deferred and the tag pushed16:26
flaper87yes16:26
ttxthat leaves a couple of days to get them proposed and reviewed16:26
ttxQuestions on the process ?16:26
flaper87other than that, everything seems to be under control.16:26
flaper87no questions from me16:27
ttxalright. Have a good evening!16:27
flaper87you too16:27
ttxKiall: yt?16:27
KiallWalking back into the office.16:28
Kiall2 mins16:28
ttxnp, ping me when ready16:28
Kiallttx: heya16:30
ttx#topic Designate16:30
ttxChecked jenkins/zuul and tarball contents, all green16:30
ttxcopy pasting process16:31
KiallExcellent, I saw you created the k2+ milestones too16:31
ttxThe process is that sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday, when you're happy with the state of master and you're not waiting for zuul to chow your last +2, you can send me the SHA16:31
ttxand I'll make the magic happen16:31
ttxmagic == https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Team/How_To_Release16:31
KiallGreat, It'll likely be closer to Thu than Tue, but no problem.16:31
ttxhttps://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/kilo-116:31
ttxthe last down the list is begging for me asking abou tit16:32
ttxwithout assignee and not started :)16:32
Kiallconfig reload? Yea, it will be pushed :)16:32
Kialllet me move that out to k2 now..16:32
ttxcan I push it now ?16:32
ttxok16:32
Kialldone16:32
ttxthe last two still have a good chance to make it ?16:33
Kiall"Transition PowerDNS backend to Pools" is blocked on another issue, which doesn't have a ticket (I'll file one), but yes - it has a good chance.16:33
KiallThe framework bits of "Centralize validation logic where it makes sense" are in, but there's more to do which won't land in k116:33
Kiall(i.e it's half done + merged)16:34
ttxso then you have two options16:34
KiallI'm not sure what the norm for handling that is :)16:34
ttxyou can split it and mark part1 implemented16:34
ttxor you just defer the whole to k216:34
ttxdepends how much the part1 makes sense as a thing16:34
KiallOkay, I'll split it - I think that makes sense..16:34
ttxand how much you want to pet the developer in the back16:35
Kialldeveloper is me ;)16:35
ttxhehe16:35
ttxbasically, if you feel it's worth communicating what landed in k1 to a wider audience, split it16:35
ttxif it's just work items 1 to 4 in a 10-step plan... maybe not16:36
ttxnot an exact science here16:36
KiallK16:36
ttxok, other questions before we close ?16:36
KiallNope - None from me :)16:37
ttxalright, you're all making my job easy by being on top of what gets done in your projects, thanks16:37
ttxhave a good day!16:37
KiallSame to you :)16:37
ttx#endmeeting16:37
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