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| redrobot | o/ | 16:02 |
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| ttx | redrobot: o/ | 16:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting incub_sync | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 11 16:02:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'incub_sync' | 16:02 |
| ttx | sorry was lost in a IRC rant | 16:03 |
| ttx | #topic Barbican | 16:03 |
| redrobot | np | 16:03 |
| ttx | Checked jobs and tarball contents in prep for k1 next week | 16:03 |
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| ttx | looks like you're all good (not just you) | 16:03 |
| redrobot | Yeah, should be good to go | 16:03 |
| ttx | The process is that sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday, when you're happy with the state of master and you're not waiting for zuul to chow your last +2, you can send me the SHA | 16:04 |
| ttx | and I'll push the tag and do the Launchpad magic | 16:04 |
| ttx | does that work for you ? | 16:04 |
| redrobot | Yeah, I'll probably be emailing you. I'm traveling next week, and my internet access will be limited | 16:05 |
| ttx | that's fine | 16:05 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/kilo-1 | 16:05 |
| ttx | How is replace-concept-of-tenants-for-projects doing ? | 16:05 |
| ttx | all changes proposed under that topic merged... more to come ? | 16:06 |
| redrobot | I think there's one more pending for the test suite | 16:06 |
| redrobot | I think it should be up for review in the next day or two | 16:06 |
| ttx | ok, so we'll try to include that one in the tag | 16:07 |
| ttx | anything else coming up ? Or that will be k1 ? | 16:07 |
| redrobot | There may be a bug or two in flight, but no other BPs | 16:08 |
| ttx | sure, committed bugs will get auto-added by the script anyway | 16:09 |
| ttx | so that's fine | 16:09 |
| ttx | questions about the process for next week ? | 16:09 |
| redrobot | nope, I think it usually goes pretty smoothly | 16:09 |
| ttx | Feel free to communicate the SHA as early as Tuesday | 16:09 |
| redrobot | Sure thing. | 16:10 |
| ttx | I won't mind some early start | 16:10 |
| redrobot | I'll probably miss the 1:1 next week. | 16:10 |
| ttx | redrobot: fine too. | 16:10 |
| ttx | we'll probably skip it for those who communicated tags already | 16:10 |
| redrobot | I'm assuming no 1:1 Christmas Day and New Year's? | 16:10 |
| bswartz | lol good point | 16:11 |
| ttx | yep, next is 8th | 16:11 |
| bswartz | holidays on Thursday this year | 16:11 |
| ttx | #topic Manila | 16:11 |
| ttx | redrobot: thx! | 16:11 |
| ttx | bswartz: o/ | 16:11 |
| bswartz | hi | 16:11 |
| ttx | I checked all CI and we should be OK for tarballs and stuff | 16:11 |
| bswartz | so we did the great k-1 purge today | 16:11 |
| bswartz | a bunch of stuff got pushed out to k-2 | 16:11 |
| ttx | so like I told redrobot: | 16:11 |
| ttx | The process is that sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday, when you're happy with the state of master and you're not waiting for zuul to chow your last +2, you can send me the SHA | 16:12 |
| ttx | and I'll push the tag and do the Launchpad magic | 16:12 |
| bswartz | okay | 16:12 |
| ttx | you can send an email | 16:12 |
| ttx | or ping me on IRC with SHA | 16:12 |
| bswartz | alright | 16:12 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/kilo-1 | 16:12 |
| bswartz | everything that remains here has a good chance of merging in the next 4 days | 16:13 |
| ttx | alright, let's try this :) | 16:13 |
| ttx | worst case scenario we'll bump them at this 1:1 sync next Thursday | 16:13 |
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| bswartz | okay | 16:14 |
| bswartz | from your perspective, is there any difference between how milestones 1, 2, and 3 are run? | 16:14 |
| ttx | from the release management perspective, 1 and 2 are the same | 16:15 |
| bswartz | obviously milestone 4 has a very different flavor | 16:15 |
| ttx | 3 triggers feature freeze (generally) | 16:15 |
| ttx | we don't really have a 4, we have a RC1, and that's when we craete the proposed/$SRIES branch | 16:15 |
| bswartz | right | 16:15 |
| bswartz | are you involved with the FFE process, or is that left to the teams? | 16:16 |
| ttx | but the process for "publishing" 3 is the same as 1 and 2 | 16:16 |
| ttx | I am involved to help PTLs in already-integrated projects | 16:16 |
| ttx | but that obvisouly doesn't scale | 16:16 |
| bswartz | ok | 16:16 |
| bswartz | I've been following some of the TC and crossproject meetings | 16:17 |
| ttx | incubated projects traditionally handled them themselves, with advice from me | 16:17 |
| ttx | I think soon every project will do the same | 16:17 |
| bswartz | we don't yet follow some processes, such as the specs repo | 16:17 |
| bswartz | is that going to become mandatory at some point? | 16:17 |
| ttx | bswartz: I don't expect it to become mandatory no | 16:17 |
| bswartz | okay | 16:18 |
| ttx | we are going towards more acceptance of divergent processes rather than less :) | 16:18 |
| bswartz | for the most part we try to do things the way cinder does them, but with less heavy handed deadlines and fewer requirements on vendors | 16:18 |
| ttx | sounds good | 16:18 |
| bswartz | maybe in the long run we will have to adopt cinder's policies | 16:18 |
| ttx | so for the FFE it will be mostly your call (and your delegates call) | 16:19 |
| ttx | I can advise but I shouldn't be the blocker | 16:19 |
| bswartz | I saw jeblair's change last week regarding the tarball release, thanks for making that happen | 16:19 |
| ttx | the only reason I was so heavily involved in FFE was to guarantee some level of quality and that we hit the deadline | 16:20 |
| bswartz | are you pretty confident that we'll get a k-1 tarball that packagers can accept? | 16:20 |
| ttx | If I can teach people to fish, won't have to go that much to sea myself. | 16:20 |
| bswartz | heh | 16:20 |
| ttx | well, I know we'll get a tarball. No idea if it is usable :) | 16:20 |
| bswartz | heh | 16:20 |
| bswartz | okay I guess we'll have to just hope | 16:21 |
| bswartz | so let's keep this meeting next week | 16:21 |
| ttx | you could toss http://tarballs.openstack.org/manila/manila-master.tar.gz to prospective packagers and ask them | 16:21 |
| bswartz | yes | 16:21 |
| ttx | if they feel anything is missing | 16:21 |
| ttx | they usually hang out in #openstack-stable | 16:21 |
| bswartz | I know who they are -- I'll speak to some of them | 16:21 |
| ttx | ok, time is up, talk to you next week ? | 16:21 |
| ttx | flaper87: around ? | 16:22 |
| bswartz | yep | 16:22 |
| bswartz | thanks | 16:22 |
| ttx | bswartz: thx! | 16:22 |
| flaper87 | ttx: yes | 16:22 |
| ttx | #topic Zaqar | 16:22 |
| ttx | flaper87: next week, k1 | 16:23 |
| flaper87 | moment of truth | 16:23 |
| ttx | flaper87: I'll push a tag sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday, as soon as you send me a SHA | 16:23 |
| ttx | so whenever you're happy with what you have in master... | 16:23 |
| ttx | just let me know | 16:23 |
| flaper87 | ttx: roger | 16:23 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/zaqar/+milestone/kilo-1 | 16:23 |
| flaper87 | those bps that seem not to have info, actually are in progress | 16:24 |
| flaper87 | there's still chance for them to land | 16:24 |
| ttx | ok, we should fix those then | 16:24 |
| flaper87 | yes | 16:24 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zaqar/+spec/disable-sqlalchemy-as-pool | 16:24 |
| ttx | obviously at least Started | 16:24 |
| flaper87 | fixed :P | 16:24 |
| flaper87 | I'll do a ping-check on Monday during our meeting | 16:25 |
| ttx | Should I set the two Undefined to "Low" prio ? | 16:25 |
| flaper87 | if I don't get an answer, I'll move them | 16:25 |
| flaper87 | I just set MEdium | 16:25 |
| ttx | Yes, you should decide at that meeting if they are in the pipe and we should wait for them... or shoul djust be deferred and the tag pushed | 16:26 |
| flaper87 | yes | 16:26 |
| ttx | that leaves a couple of days to get them proposed and reviewed | 16:26 |
| ttx | Questions on the process ? | 16:26 |
| flaper87 | other than that, everything seems to be under control. | 16:26 |
| flaper87 | no questions from me | 16:27 |
| ttx | alright. Have a good evening! | 16:27 |
| flaper87 | you too | 16:27 |
| ttx | Kiall: yt? | 16:27 |
| Kiall | Walking back into the office. | 16:28 |
| Kiall | 2 mins | 16:28 |
| ttx | np, ping me when ready | 16:28 |
| Kiall | ttx: heya | 16:30 |
| ttx | #topic Designate | 16:30 |
| ttx | Checked jenkins/zuul and tarball contents, all green | 16:30 |
| ttx | copy pasting process | 16:31 |
| Kiall | Excellent, I saw you created the k2+ milestones too | 16:31 |
| ttx | The process is that sometimes between Tuesday and Thursday, when you're happy with the state of master and you're not waiting for zuul to chow your last +2, you can send me the SHA | 16:31 |
| ttx | and I'll make the magic happen | 16:31 |
| ttx | magic == https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Team/How_To_Release | 16:31 |
| Kiall | Great, It'll likely be closer to Thu than Tue, but no problem. | 16:31 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/kilo-1 | 16:31 |
| ttx | the last down the list is begging for me asking abou tit | 16:32 |
| ttx | without assignee and not started :) | 16:32 |
| Kiall | config reload? Yea, it will be pushed :) | 16:32 |
| Kiall | let me move that out to k2 now.. | 16:32 |
| ttx | can I push it now ? | 16:32 |
| ttx | ok | 16:32 |
| Kiall | done | 16:32 |
| ttx | the last two still have a good chance to make it ? | 16:33 |
| Kiall | "Transition PowerDNS backend to Pools" is blocked on another issue, which doesn't have a ticket (I'll file one), but yes - it has a good chance. | 16:33 |
| Kiall | The framework bits of "Centralize validation logic where it makes sense" are in, but there's more to do which won't land in k1 | 16:33 |
| Kiall | (i.e it's half done + merged) | 16:34 |
| ttx | so then you have two options | 16:34 |
| Kiall | I'm not sure what the norm for handling that is :) | 16:34 |
| ttx | you can split it and mark part1 implemented | 16:34 |
| ttx | or you just defer the whole to k2 | 16:34 |
| ttx | depends how much the part1 makes sense as a thing | 16:34 |
| Kiall | Okay, I'll split it - I think that makes sense.. | 16:34 |
| ttx | and how much you want to pet the developer in the back | 16:35 |
| Kiall | developer is me ;) | 16:35 |
| ttx | hehe | 16:35 |
| ttx | basically, if you feel it's worth communicating what landed in k1 to a wider audience, split it | 16:35 |
| ttx | if it's just work items 1 to 4 in a 10-step plan... maybe not | 16:36 |
| ttx | not an exact science here | 16:36 |
| Kiall | K | 16:36 |
| ttx | ok, other questions before we close ? | 16:36 |
| Kiall | Nope - None from me :) | 16:37 |
| ttx | alright, you're all making my job easy by being on top of what gets done in your projects, thanks | 16:37 |
| ttx | have a good day! | 16:37 |
| Kiall | Same to you :) | 16:37 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 11 16:37:49 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2014/incub_sync.2014-12-11-16.02.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2014/incub_sync.2014-12-11-16.02.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2014/incub_sync.2014-12-11-16.02.log.html | 16:37 |
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