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| dhellmann | ttx: not sure if this is the best channel for this -- I've been thinking about project tagging, and starting to question the rationale of having them in the governance repository. They're either objective enough to qualify as simple documentation ("included in install guide") or subjective enough that I don't think we want the TC voting on them ("stable" or "mature" or whatever). I'll write up more details, but wanted to give you a | 14:34 |
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| dhellmann | heads-up since it looks like you're working on the implementation some today. | 14:34 |
| ttx | The spec stated taht we would still very much own them, even if we could delegate maintenance to subgroups | 14:36 |
| ttx | dhellmann: would you rather have them in some other repo atht we would own ? | 14:36 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I didn't want to duplicate the projects list | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I'm starting to think we don't need them at all. | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | They're really just short-form for documentation we should be writing. | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | "included in install guide" is "look at the table of contents" | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | we don't need to vote on that, it's right there in the docs | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | and for some of the tags that are not yet in the docs, they should just be in the docs | 14:39 |
| ttx | dhellmann: "included in install guide" might be an extreme case though | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I need to look again, but I have not been able to come up with an example of any tag that I thought would both be objective and something the TC should vote on rather than having listed in documentation somewhere | 14:39 |
| ttx | dhellmann: "compute-base" for example would certainly not be project-maintained | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | that's documented in the test matrix in project-config | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | *or* it could be in the documentation of the dependencies of projects that need compute-base | 14:40 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we also need to maintain them /somewhere/, if only to allow the project taxonomy browsing website to get its information from somewhere | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | if the nova project decides it wants to require designate, for example, that should just be in the nova docs | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | having a project taxonomy browsing website presumes we have tags, we shouldn't create tags just so we can build that website | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | basically, I think we should all go work on the documentation instead of doing this, but I need to find a more detailed way to say that | 14:41 |
| ttx | clarity into which project has which tags is pretty critical imho | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | well, in my vision, there are no tags anywhere at all | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | the tags are just short-hand for things that should be more discoverable elsewhere | 14:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I'm implementing the spec we voted on, not inventing the next ietartion of it just yet | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | we've come up with other uses for the tags *after* we decided we wanted them, but we can have all of those other things without tags | 14:43 |
| ttx | iteration* | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | ttx: sure, my point was just that I'm going to propose we stop and so maybe you have something else to work on between now and tomorrow when we discuss that :-) | 14:43 |
| ttx | I don't work on it, so I'm fine :) | 14:44 |
| dhellmann | maybe we can avoid implementing it completely | 14:44 |
| dhellmann | ok. I'll send an email to the -dev list later today to start the discussion. | 14:44 |
| ttx | dhellmann: we just started to get everyone understanding tags, it would be unfortunate to suggest a 180° turn only one month in | 14:45 |
| ttx | but then I'll wait for your post | 14:45 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, like I said, I think it'll turn out to be wasted effort better spent elsewhere, and avoiding that is part of the point of all of this change we're going through | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | maybe I'm wrong, and missing something, but the more I looked at it last week the more this became clear to me | 14:46 |
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