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| ttx | redrobot: around? | 16:00 |
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| redrobot | ttx o/ | 16:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting incub_sync | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 12 16:01:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'incub_sync' | 16:01 |
| ttx | #topic Barbican | 16:01 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/barbican/+milestone/kilo-3 | 16:01 |
| ttx | do you plan to add more to this ? | 16:02 |
| redrobot | Yes, we have a mid-cycle sprint next week, so we'll use some of the time to get people to commit to blueprints before the fetaure freeze | 16:02 |
| ttx | redrobot: cool | 16:03 |
| ttx | We'll skip next week syncs, btw | 16:03 |
| ttx | FWIW even if we don't formally "incubate" anymore we'll keep those syncs for the time being | 16:03 |
| ttx | while I reorganize how we do release management and I see how many projects I can actually coordinate | 16:03 |
| redrobot | sounds good. | 16:03 |
| ttx | I might end up making it simple enough to cover more than the projects in the current "integrated release" | 16:04 |
| ttx | in which case Barbican could get a release:coordinated tag | 16:04 |
| ttx | like integrated projects will probably have | 16:05 |
| ttx | so, while things are changing, let's not change too much our habits :) | 16:05 |
| ttx | redrobot: questions ? | 16:05 |
| redrobot | hehe, sounds good to me. | 16:05 |
| redrobot | Not really. I put in some space requests in the spreadsheet you sent last week | 16:05 |
| ttx | thx! Will have a look to that | 16:06 |
| redrobot | awesome, see you again in two weeks then. :) | 16:06 |
| ttx | not sure we'll have bswartz today | 16:07 |
| ttx | deep in some midcycle | 16:07 |
| ttx | flaper87: want to run now ? | 16:07 |
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| Kiall | ttx: I'm about if you've been stood up ;) | 16:15 |
| ttx | Kiall: my savior! | 16:15 |
| ttx | I was feeling a bit lonely here | 16:15 |
| ttx | #topic Designate | 16:15 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/kilo-3 | 16:15 |
| ttx | is that the full extent of what you're working on ? | 16:16 |
| ttx | or do you expect to add more ? | 16:16 |
| Kiall | The team filed + triaged lots of bugs yesterday, but I've been travelling pretty much solidly for the last month so haven't 100% caught up yet. | 16:16 |
| flaper87 | ttx: here now (ping me) :D | 16:16 |
| Kiall | In terms of BP's - That's it as far as I know | 16:16 |
| Kiall | Stability fixes from now on | 16:16 |
| ttx | alright... | 16:17 |
| ttx | also read what I told redrobot above: even if we don't formally "incubate" anymore we'll keep those syncs for the time being, while we figure out what to exactly do | 16:17 |
| Kiall | ttx: yea, makes sense.. I'm still trying to figure out what all the changes mean for us ;) | 16:17 |
| ttx | what is costly is our try to predict what will be in next milestones... and apparently this has little value | 16:17 |
| ttx | if we keep it around the release mechanics, it's relatively cheap | 16:18 |
| ttx | and won't need as much coordination | 16:18 |
| ttx | so I'm working on simplifying the work to the point where supporting more projects is not an issue | 16:18 |
| ttx | (just talkign about release management supporting more than the current "integarted release" here | 16:18 |
| ttx | so in the mean time let's act as if nothing changed | 16:19 |
| Kiall | Makes sense, so you do intend to keep ahold of the non-core releases, but only from a tooling rather than release manage POV? | 16:19 |
| Kiall | release manager* | 16:19 |
| ttx | yeah, mostly | 16:19 |
| ttx | we'll skip next week syncs though, nno point in extra useless meeting in the soft belly of the milestone | 16:19 |
| Kiall | Sure - Sounds good | 16:20 |
| ttx | questions on that ? | 16:20 |
| ttx | or anythign else ? | 16:20 |
| Kiall | Any idea on when we might make any changes? | 16:20 |
| ttx | before the end of the cycle | 16:20 |
| Kiall | K - So L will be entirely done by the "new rules" | 16:21 |
| ttx | the idea would be to swtich to reactive rather than predictive handling of milestones for Liberty | 16:21 |
| ttx | (i can't get used to that) | 16:21 |
| Kiall | Liberty? yea - I'm going to keep calling it L - or Lima ;) | 16:21 |
| ttx | basically, we would stop trying to predict what will land in next milestone (and fail at it) | 16:21 |
| ttx | and just keep track of what actually landed | 16:21 |
| ttx | since nobody seems to consume our predictions anyway | 16:22 |
| ttx | and those are a hell of a lot of work to maintain | 16:22 |
| Kiall | :) | 16:22 |
| ttx | so we'd switch to after-the-fact accounting, which is much easier | 16:22 |
| ttx | doesn't remove the need to keep BPs up to date... | 16:22 |
| ttx | but we don't actually care about deferring and all | 16:22 |
| ttx | which currently is the main reason for these syncs | 16:23 |
| ttx | Kiall: other questions ? | 16:23 |
| Kiall | No - Thats it :) | 16:23 |
| ttx | Kiall: ok, talk to you in two weeks :) | 16:23 |
| ttx | flaper87: you're on | 16:23 |
| Kiall | Enjoy the "week off" ;) | 16:23 |
| flaper87 | just in time | 16:23 |
| ttx | #topic Zaqar | 16:23 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/zaqar/+milestone/kilo-3 | 16:24 |
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| flaper87 | so, lots of reviews to do | 16:24 |
| ttx | Looks good, except that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zaqar/+spec/ops-stats | 16:24 |
| ttx | (with no assignee or status | 16:24 |
| flaper87 | yeah, That one I still have to evaluat the impact and decided on whether it's worth having it for K | 16:24 |
| flaper87 | It's likely going to be pushed to L | 16:25 |
| ttx | ack | 16:25 |
| flaper87 | evaluate* | 16:25 |
| ttx | I assume you've read what I told Kiall and redrobot above | 16:25 |
| flaper87 | yup :) | 16:25 |
| ttx | (and we'll skip next week 1:1) | 16:25 |
| * flaper87 was reading other's meetings | 16:25 | |
| ttx | other questions ? | 16:25 |
| * flaper87 is a natural stalker | 16:25 | |
| flaper87 | nope, I'm good | 16:26 |
| ttx | that's why you like public channels so much , heh | 16:26 |
| flaper87 | hahahaha | 16:26 |
| flaper87 | damn, you got me | 16:26 |
| ttx | ok then, have a good (two) weeks | 16:26 |
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| ttx | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 12 16:32:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2015/incub_sync.2015-02-12-16.01.html | 16:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2015/incub_sync.2015-02-12-16.01.txt | 16:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/incub_sync/2015/incub_sync.2015-02-12-16.01.log.html | 16:32 |
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