Wednesday, 2015-10-21

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bdemersmordred: Hey I wanted to pick your brain a little more about the epoch version issue13:27
bdemersis there a thread or something i can go read to get the back story ?13:27
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dhellmanncp16net: I don't remember the question so I hope that was the answer you wanted :-)13:51
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dimsdhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235999/ has some backwards compat issues possibly14:02
dhellmanndims: looking14:02
dimsdhellmann: do we ask them to restrict versions before we make a release?14:02
dhellmanndims: I talked with stevemar and gordc about that one yesterday14:03
dhellmannthe incompat is in the identifiers emitted by the middleware to be picked up by ceilometer14:03
dhellmannthe old, bad, format caused ceilometer to ignore or mis-file the data14:03
dhellmannthe new format isn't the same, but works with ceilometer14:04
dhellmannso it's incompatible for anyone else receiving the data, but should be ok for existing deployments14:04
dhellmanndims: we could easily justify waiting until after the summit to do any more releases, so maybe we should just do that14:05
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dimsdhellmann: ++14:06
dhellmanndims: I'll make an announcement on the ML14:06
dimsthanks dhellmann14:07
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bdemersmestery: do you know anything about the history of NOT using an epoch in the package versions ?14:23
mesterybdemers: I do not, though I think I recall a discussion on that at some point on the ML14:24
dhellmannbdemers: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/069166.html14:25
mesterythanks dhellmann :)14:25
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bdemersthanks for digging that up, but everything i have read so far basically says “we don’t support it” or “we don’t support it for a reason”14:28
bdemersthere are hints about potential conflicts when other packagers pick it up, but, I’d really like to know what the concrete reason is/was14:29
bdemers(because the next alternative disuccused, is to delete a release on pypi)14:30
bdemerswhich i’m not a fan of14:30
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dhellmannbdemers: ttx gave the reason in that thread, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/069314.html15:45
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bdemersdhellmann: thanks, I should have just read the rest of the thread16:46
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