| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: All python 3.5 jobs are failing today, we need to build new xenial images first. | 06:28 | |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/336389 | 06:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add python-watcherclient to global-requirements https://review.openstack.org/337742 | 07:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/337333 | 07:23 |
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| coolsvap | prometheanfire, sigmavirus_away i am available for today's meeting | 11:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/requirements: Add networking-cisco to the projects list https://review.openstack.org/338205 | 11:46 |
| coolsvap | toabctl, the check-requirements job is non voting in networking-cisco | 11:54 |
| coolsvap | I dont know how we can conduct meeting today if we have spamming in #openstack-meeting | 11:54 |
| coolsvap | tonyb prometheanfire number80 sigmavirus_away dims coreycb` dirk ^^ | 11:55 |
| coolsvap | anyone around? | 11:57 |
| number80 | ack | 11:58 |
| toabctl | ack | 11:58 |
| number80 | coolsvap: if openstack bot was here, we could have done it here | 11:58 |
| coolsvap | number80, yes | 11:58 |
| coolsvap | i have pinged in infra | 11:59 |
| coolsvap | but there is no response yet | 11:59 |
| coolsvap | we have openstack bot here though | 11:59 |
| number80 | right, I missed it | 11:59 |
| number80 | well, let's just do it here | 12:00 |
| coolsvap | I am not sure if we can start meeting here? | 12:00 |
| number80 | we won't disturb anyone | 12:00 |
| coolsvap | tonyb, can we start meeting here? | 12:00 |
| coolsvap | number80, should i just try to start here? | 12:01 |
| coolsvap | toabctl, dirk prometheanfire ^^ | 12:01 |
| number80 | coolsvap: I'm for it until we fix spam issue | 12:01 |
| coreycb` | coolsvap, sounds good to me | 12:01 |
| prometheanfire | coolsvap: I thought we had it in #openstack-meeting? | 12:01 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, there is a spam attack | 12:02 |
| coolsvap | i am starting meeting here | 12:02 |
| coolsvap | #startmeeting requirements | 12:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 6 12:02:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is coolsvap. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 12:02 |
| coolsvap | #topic rollcall | 12:02 |
| prometheanfire | ah | 12:02 |
| number80 | o/ | 12:02 |
| coreycb` | o/ | 12:02 |
| prometheanfire | o/ | 12:02 |
| coolsvap | poeple we have a spam attack in #openstack-meeting so we have started meeting here | 12:03 |
| coolsvap | I am not sure if it will be recorded or not | 12:03 |
| number80 | coolsvap: it will be | 12:03 |
| coolsvap | if not i will send the log to mailing list | 12:03 |
| coolsvap | alright lets see number80 | 12:04 |
| coolsvap | #topic Any controversies in the Queue? | 12:04 |
| coolsvap | I think we have a lot to discuss here today | 12:04 |
| coolsvap | #link https://review.openstack.org/335455/ | 12:04 |
| prometheanfire | the bump of oslo-concurrency in liberty for a sec bug | 12:04 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, alright lets go ahead | 12:05 |
| coolsvap | i was putting some reviews in master | 12:05 |
| prometheanfire | coolsvap: you linked first :P | 12:05 |
| coolsvap | i will come back to it again | 12:05 |
| coolsvap | stable first | 12:05 |
| prometheanfire | #link https://review.openstack.org/337277 | 12:05 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, can you provide a link? | 12:05 |
| coreycb` | I have to agree with tonyb on that one, I'm -1 until we know it's the last resort | 12:06 |
| number80 | -1 too | 12:06 |
| prometheanfire | the problem is that raising the version of olso-conc there will also make us raise the version of other things (oslo utils being the first) | 12:06 |
| prometheanfire | my +1 was only from the perspective of a distro person, from a reqs perspective it's not fun | 12:07 |
| number80 | I think we need to define and set a policy for security-related bumps | 12:07 |
| number80 | yeah, as a downstream, I already did the update | 12:08 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I target upper-constraints already | 12:08 |
| number80 | but I can imagine other people trying to be more conservative and backport security patches | 12:08 |
| coreycb` | same here, as much as possible we target u-c | 12:08 |
| coreycb` | it seems like there should be a way to backport to 2.3.1 | 12:09 |
| prometheanfire | ya, it's fair to try and really push for that | 12:09 |
| number80 | *nods* | 12:10 |
| coolsvap | coreycb`, can you add a review comment with your view? | 12:11 |
| coreycb` | coolsvap, yes I already did | 12:11 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I should add another comment as well, clarifying my views | 12:11 |
| coolsvap | coreycb`, missed it sorry thanks | 12:11 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, yes please | 12:12 |
| coreycb` | apevec said it's not possible because stable/liberty was at 2.6.0, but I don't think that's a good enough argument | 12:12 |
| coreycb` | it's just a tag in git | 12:12 |
| number80 | well, we also have to accomodate stablemaint constraints in this case | 12:13 |
| prometheanfire | true | 12:13 |
| number80 | maybe they'd be ok to push it as a hotfix release? | 12:14 |
| prometheanfire | it'd be nice | 12:14 |
| coreycb` | ok rookie question, can you fill me in on where to view stablemaint constraints? | 12:15 |
| prometheanfire | http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html | 12:16 |
| prometheanfire | #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html | 12:16 |
| coolsvap | we need someone to check for update related to hotfix or something to work with, dhellmann dims? | 12:16 |
| coreycb` | ah you're talking about support phases | 12:16 |
| number80 | we can ask apevec, he's part of stablemaint too | 12:18 |
| coolsvap | number80, can you update team and review related to your discussion with apavec? | 12:18 |
| coolsvap | alright | 12:21 |
| coolsvap | i think we need to sync with tonyb about next steps or any of the stable cores regarding next steps | 12:21 |
| coolsvap | #action sync up with tonyb about next steps or any of the stable cores regarding next steps | 12:21 |
| coolsvap | moving on | 12:22 |
| coolsvap | we have to decide upon policy to allow requirements with similar functionality but with different attributes like performance | 12:23 |
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| coolsvap | we have couple of reviews related to it in the queue | 12:23 |
| coolsvap | #link https://review.openstack.org/337683 | 12:24 |
| coolsvap | am I disconnected? | 12:24 |
| prometheanfire | ya, similliarlly we just merged another json lib | 12:25 |
| prometheanfire | coolsvap: no :P | 12:25 |
| prometheanfire | the new json lib is cython and quicker as well | 12:25 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, thanks for the ack I think we need to decide on policy for it | 12:26 |
| number80 | coolsvap: ack | 12:26 |
| coolsvap | I think if the library has promising attributes over the previous one with better support on distros | 12:26 |
| coolsvap | we should be more accommodating on adding these | 12:26 |
| number80 | well, I'd like more concrete arguments than "it's faster" | 12:26 |
| number80 | not against it, just allow flexibility to distro | 12:27 |
| number80 | for instance hiredis can be an optional deps as redis-py will use its parser when installed and benefit from perf bumps | 12:27 |
| coolsvap | number80, agreed but most will come with that attribute (being faster than previous one) | 12:27 |
| prometheanfire | tracking it in UC would help as a packager, we basically do so for the entire python dep tree | 12:27 |
| number80 | proposal: having an optional-requirements | 12:27 |
| number80 | we can these in optional-requirements | 12:28 |
| prometheanfire | for anything 'plugin' related? | 12:28 |
| number80 | stuff that are not required for runtime but could provide additional nice feeature | 12:28 |
| number80 | prometheanfire: depends on plugin definition :) | 12:28 |
| coolsvap | number80, agree but we need some mechanism to manage that across projects | 12:29 |
| prometheanfire | might work, but would need to verry strictly define what optional means | 12:29 |
| number80 | Yes | 12:29 |
| prometheanfire | which projects get to define what's optional | 12:29 |
| prometheanfire | I would think the project that submitted this would think it's not optional | 12:30 |
| coolsvap | number80, can you draft something which we can discuss | 12:30 |
| coolsvap | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/optional-requirements-draft | 12:30 |
| number80 | coolsvap: will do | 12:30 |
| coolsvap | just created a etherpad for the same | 12:30 |
| coolsvap | number80, thanks | 12:30 |
| prometheanfire | action for it? | 12:31 |
| coolsvap | #action number80 to draft optional-requirements to discuss in next meeting | 12:31 |
| number80 | but for immediate purpose, if the guys offers concrete data that hiredis is necessary for their workflow, I'm not against adding it | 12:31 |
| number80 | thanks | 12:31 |
| coolsvap | anything else in the queue? | 12:32 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I'm ok with it, generally | 12:32 |
| prometheanfire | nothing else controversial I think | 12:32 |
| number80 | *nods* | 12:32 |
| coolsvap | moving on | 12:33 |
| coolsvap | #topic Additional Gating - Updates | 12:33 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, any updates related to it? | 12:33 |
| prometheanfire | not at the moment | 12:34 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, np I just added it to recurring meeting topic | 12:35 |
| coolsvap | I was about to say no update is just as valid as any other update | 12:35 |
| prometheanfire | that's fine, real life has been busy for the last month and will be for the next couple weeks | 12:36 |
| prometheanfire | I have a recouring reminder that I need to get more details on it, so it won't be forgotten though | 12:36 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, np it was action item for you and tonyb and I think review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333650/ in good shape | 12:37 |
| coolsvap | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333650/ | 12:37 |
| coolsvap | moving on | 12:37 |
| coolsvap | #topic Tasks from Etherpad | 12:37 |
| prometheanfire | sure | 12:37 |
| coolsvap | anyone has any updates related to tasks from etherpad | 12:37 |
| coolsvap | we already covered the gating part | 12:37 |
| coolsvap | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks | 12:38 |
| coolsvap | I think we can move on the topic with no updates this week. | 12:40 |
| coolsvap | #topic Volunteer for next 2 meetings | 12:41 |
| coolsvap | #info prometheanfire is running the meeting on 13 July | 12:41 |
| coolsvap | Any volunteer for July 20 meeting? | 12:41 |
| coreycb` | coolsvap, I can take that one | 12:41 |
| coolsvap | coreycb`, thanks | 12:42 |
| coolsvap | #info coreycb is running the meeting on 20 July | 12:42 |
| coolsvap | #topic Open Discussion | 12:43 |
| coolsvap | I think we call the meeting here | 12:45 |
| prometheanfire | sgtm | 12:45 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, number80 coreycb` ^^ | 12:45 |
| coolsvap | alright | 12:45 |
| coreycb` | coolsvap, I don't have anything else | 12:45 |
| coolsvap | #endmeeting | 12:45 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 12:45:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-07-06-12.02.html | 12:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-07-06-12.02.txt | 12:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-07-06-12.02.log.html | 12:45 |
| coreycb` | thanks coolsvap | 12:45 |
| coolsvap | Thank you everyone | 12:46 |
| prometheanfire | cya next week | 12:46 |
| coolsvap | I am happy that we have the meeting log | 12:46 |
| number80 | coolsvap: thank you for running the meeting :) | 12:46 |
| coolsvap | I might not be present for next week meeting | 12:46 |
| coolsvap | I thought about today's meeting last week | 12:47 |
| coolsvap | lets see :) | 12:47 |
| toabctl | thx coolsvap | 12:47 |
| prometheanfire | :P | 12:47 |
| coolsvap | see you all around | 12:47 |
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| prometheanfire | I know we talked about it before, but doug's submissions are only to verify single changes are good (pass tests), we still prefer to wait for the daily mass generate-constraints update? | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | David TARDIVEL proposed openstack/requirements: Add watcher-dashboard project to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/337585 | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add --save option to normalize-requirements command https://review.openstack.org/333167 | 16:29 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, i agree i think we had a lot of discussion about it in meetings | 16:40 |
| coolsvap | we need more people to look at the dims u-c constraint test patches | 16:41 |
| coolsvap | and triggering them as needed | 16:41 |
| prometheanfire | ok, that's why I haven't been +2ing them | 16:45 |
| coolsvap | prometheanfire, its alright if people +2/+1 them we need to make sure they are not merged | 16:47 |
| coolsvap | we only merge the generated from *** patches | 16:47 |
| coolsvap | for bot patches | 16:47 |
| prometheanfire | yarp | 16:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add monasca-api to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/336611 | 17:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Add monasca-persister to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/336614 | 17:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaiyan Sheng proposed openstack/requirements: Add monasca-statsd to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/338424 | 17:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Rick Aulino proposed openstack/requirements: Bump global-requirements.txt for Elasticsearch python client to 2.3.0. https://review.openstack.org/338425 | 17:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaiyan Sheng proposed openstack/requirements: Add monasca-notification to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/338438 | 18:08 |
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