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coolsvap | tonyb: the scheduling of the meeting at a common time looks very difficut | 03:19 |
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coolsvap | tonyb: let me know how this looks http://doodle.com/poll/qq4wxkvgaaricqts | 03:22 |
coolsvap | I found very little common time overlap | 03:23 |
coolsvap | http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=12,6,21,30&h=12 | 03:23 |
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tonyb | coolsvap: Thanks for doing that. What about 0700 (UTC) which I htink is the worldtimebuddy link you sent through. | 05:06 |
tonyb | coolsvap: that doesnt seem to be an option on the doodle poll | 05:06 |
prometheanfire | maybe bounce the meeting between diferent timezones since we are so spread out? | 05:10 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: Perhaps we coudl come up with an alternating schedule but I really like most of us getting together weekly | 05:11 |
coolsvap | tonyb: that will be 12AM for cedt | 05:11 |
tonyb | I think we're too small to really do alternating meetings | 05:11 |
prometheanfire | ya | 05:12 |
tonyb | coolsvap: IIRC prometheanfire said that was fine | 05:12 |
prometheanfire | 7am local? or was that 3am? | 05:12 |
tonyb | coolsvap: dirk and toabctl said "maybe" | 05:12 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: 0700 UTC 0000 CDT | 05:12 |
prometheanfire | who's on AST? | 05:12 |
prometheanfire | midnight is fine | 05:12 |
prometheanfire | after all, here I am | 05:13 |
coolsvap | prometheanfire: 0700 local | 05:13 |
tonyb | IST -- coolsvap, AEDT == tonyb, CEST == dirk, toabctl (and others) | 05:13 |
prometheanfire | oh, didn't know that | 05:13 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: /me has to ask also ;P | 05:14 |
prometheanfire | so ya, 'now' is fine | 05:14 |
* tonyb notes that dirk and toabctl are quiet so i'd be asking them to wake up | 05:14 | |
prometheanfire | true | 05:15 |
prometheanfire | when it was 7AM for me that was better because it was just me | 05:15 |
* prometheanfire feels odd being the only american on a team | 05:15 | |
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tonyb | prometheanfire: okay, It's just DST chnages that have made life difficult :( | 05:16 |
coolsvap | If we need to meet at same time every week, one will have to stay late or wake up early | 05:16 |
prometheanfire | ya | 05:17 |
prometheanfire | I can do 6AM | 05:17 |
prometheanfire | actually | 05:17 |
coolsvap | That's why I think we can do alternate timing | 05:17 |
prometheanfire | ask claco | 05:17 |
prometheanfire | coolsvap: who you don't know :P | 05:17 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: Require osc-lib>=1.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/384644 | 05:17 |
prometheanfire | he may let me come in later | 05:17 |
prometheanfire | tonyb: sound good? | 05:18 |
coolsvap | So it's not only one person who is suffering | 05:18 |
prometheanfire | meh, if he lets me come in a little later that day then that worksforme | 05:19 |
coolsvap | prometheanfire: alright | 05:19 |
tonyb | okay. If everyone thinks alternating can work then we can try it. | 05:19 |
prometheanfire | tonyb: if I can come into work an hour later that means I could sleep probably | 05:20 |
tonyb | but I'd like to set the expectation that we all attend as often as possible. I'd like to avoid the situation where (for example) dirk and I never talk because we each pick different meetings to attend and our work days don't overlap | 05:20 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: you'd go back to sleep? | 05:21 |
prometheanfire | ya | 05:21 |
prometheanfire | depends on if he'd let me swing it | 05:21 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: anyway 6am for you is 2300 for me which I'm struggling with. | 05:21 |
prometheanfire | true | 05:21 |
prometheanfire | at that point you might as well make it 5AM for me | 05:22 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: that's a generous offer. | 05:23 |
prometheanfire | I'm a helper | 05:23 |
coolsvap | tonyb: how about one morning and one evening AEDT timing | 05:23 |
prometheanfire | iirc, my title is 'chief technical helper' | 05:23 |
coolsvap | Umm no that would be very early for me | 05:24 |
prometheanfire | at that point it'd be dividing up my night more evenly | 05:24 |
prometheanfire | coolsvap: ? | 05:24 |
coolsvap | AEDT morning would be 3/4 am for me I suppose | 05:25 |
coolsvap | Let me check | 05:25 |
tonyb | coolsvap: Yeah anything befoer noon AEDT) would be terrible for you | 05:26 |
* tonyb really wishes worldtimebuddy would allow >4 timezones | 05:27 | |
coolsvap | It does in the paid version | 05:28 |
* prometheanfire thinks it could be a js thing that could be edited | 05:29 | |
tonyb | coolsvap: Oh really? | 05:29 |
prometheanfire | tonyb: email sent | 05:31 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: too which address? | 05:31 |
tonyb | Oh I see it | 05:31 |
prometheanfire | just as an option | 05:32 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: Cool. | 05:32 |
prometheanfire | decided to write it now, or I'll forget | 05:33 |
tonyb | I think 0500 UTC and/or 1100 UTC | 05:34 |
tonyb | I s'pose we could alternate between them to spead the pain | 05:35 |
dirk | tonyb: sorry, in an interview right now.. | 05:35 |
tonyb | dirk: Oh that coudl be good I guess ;P | 05:36 |
dirk | tonyb: not for me, I'm the interviewer | 05:36 |
tonyb | dirk: phew! | 05:37 |
dirk | didn't read all of the backlog, but 0700 UTC is perfectly fine for me and toabctl | 05:38 |
toabctl | hey | 05:38 |
dirk | Toabctl is usually up before me | 05:38 |
tonyb | dirk: what about 0500UTC whihc is about 40mins ago? | 05:38 |
toabctl | dirk, eh.well. I can't guarantee. I may be there. | 05:39 |
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prometheanfire | well, nn :P | 05:47 |
dirk | tonyb: it's definitely early for me then | 05:56 |
tonyb | dirk: okay. | 05:56 |
dirk | tonyb: sorry do you mean 0600 UTC? | 05:56 |
dirk | 56 min ago is fine for me | 05:56 |
tonyb | dirk: I'm terrbly confused | 05:57 |
dirk | I'm in UTC+2 ( switching to UTC+1 soon) | 05:57 |
dirk | No, me is confused | 05:57 |
tonyb | I thought 0500 UTC == 0700 CEST == 1600 AEDT all approx 58mins ago | 05:58 |
dirk | Yep, you're right | 05:58 |
tonyb | dirk: but then in $small_number of week you transition from CEST to CEDT which would make you UTC +1 not UTC +2 is that correct? | 05:59 |
prometheanfire | why can't we get rid of dst and all use one timezone (utc)? | 06:00 |
tonyb | prometheanfire: ;P | 06:01 |
dirk | prometheanfire: everything is so much easier if you all just switch to my timezone ;-) | 06:02 |
dirk | tonyb: yep | 06:02 |
tonyb | dirk: okay thanks that explains the problem. | 06:02 |
prometheanfire | meh | 06:03 |
tonyb | timezone make my head hurt | 06:05 |
prometheanfire | tonyb: I now know you are not a computer | 06:07 |
tonyb | :) | 06:07 |
prometheanfire | though computers don't do time all that well either | 06:07 |
dirk | Lol | 06:10 |
dirk | Are we going to use the doodle? | 06:10 |
dirk | I seem to be only one | 06:10 |
prometheanfire | doodle? | 06:11 |
dirk | Or.maybe it shows only people in my timezone | 06:11 |
toabctl | where's the doodle link? | 06:11 |
dirk | http://doodle.com/poll/qq4wxkvgaaricqts | 06:12 |
toabctl | so what timezone are the mentioned times? utc? | 06:12 |
prometheanfire | ya, didn't get that :P | 06:12 |
toabctl | oh. there a huge infobox about the automatic timezone convertion | 06:13 |
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prometheanfire | updated | 06:14 |
coolsvap | prometheanfire: I actually did not send it across, I was checking if there are any other options. | 06:19 |
dirk | coolsvap: the confusing is probably because we all are going to switch timezones, so it is not clear whether it is in old or new time | 06:20 |
dirk | For me it doesn't matter though with the given 3 options | 06:20 |
coolsvap | dirk: I created it with UTC times in consideration | 06:21 |
coolsvap | the variance in TZ does not allow much convenience | 06:23 |
prometheanfire | ya, not everyone even changes at the same date | 06:23 |
prometheanfire | anyway, nn again | 06:24 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.policy to new release 1.15.0 https://review.openstack.org/385099 | 06:30 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements: update constraint for osc-lib to new release 1.2.0 https://review.openstack.org/385093 | 06:30 |
dirk | Periodic jobs seem to be broken | 06:38 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/385806 | 07:36 |
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jroll | hey folks, curious if you all would object to running ironic unit tests on u-c changes? | 13:39 |
jroll | we've been broken by libraries a couple times, most recently this week | 13:39 |
prometheanfire | jroll: adding it to the cross project verifiations seems doable | 13:55 |
jroll | prometheanfire: okay, I'll propose it shortly, I assume there's some job macro for it in jjb? | 13:55 |
prometheanfire | yes | 13:58 |
prometheanfire | it's already used for nova at the least | 13:58 |
prometheanfire | jroll: it's all the 'gate-cross' jobs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385093/ | 13:59 |
jroll | prometheanfire: cool, thank you | 14:02 |
jroll | here we are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386003/ | 14:07 |
* jroll looks up who is PTL for the ack | 14:07 | |
jroll | tonyb: mind a review on 386003 when you're around? :) | 14:08 |
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prometheanfire | :D | 14:20 |
prometheanfire | jroll: 2016-10-13 14:12:12.859258 | FAILURE: Job gate-cross-ironic-python27-db-ubuntu-xenial not defined | 14:28 |
jroll | prometheanfire: yeah, fixing, waiting for local tox this time | 14:28 |
jroll | cores are pegged, all systems go | 14:29 |
prometheanfire | jroll: have you used grep technology? | 14:29 |
prometheanfire | :P | 14:29 |
jroll | yeah, was grepping gate-cross at first, missed the cross-python-blah | 14:29 |
prometheanfire | ah | 14:29 |
jroll | prometheanfire: fixeded | 14:36 |
prometheanfire | jroll: out of curiousity, I'd be intrested in seeing the breakage we let through | 14:48 |
jroll | prometheanfire: most recently was ironic-lib, we have some tests in ironic that were mocking ironic-lib things (yeah, that's on us, but still happened) | 14:49 |
jroll | another was an oslo thing that changed the exception being raised | 14:49 |
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sdake | say will the proposal bot automatically propose a requirements change to a newly created stable/newton branch (for kolla created this morning?) | 15:52 |
prometheanfire | sdake: iirc, yes, as long as you are in projects.txt | 15:53 |
sdake | prometheanfire thanks! | 15:53 |
sdake | prometheanfire any idea when it happens? | 15:54 |
sdake | we have 5 days (oct 18th) for our deadline | 15:54 |
prometheanfire | probably midnight | 15:54 |
sdake | thanks | 15:54 |
prometheanfire | if not I'd ask in -releases | 15:54 |
sdake | ok | 15:54 |
odyssey4me | sdake IIRC it runs every 3 or 6 hours so you should be good | 15:56 |
sdake | odyssey4me thanks | 15:56 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump keystoneauth1 minimum to latest release https://review.openstack.org/386135 | 18:35 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump keystoneclient minimum to latest release https://review.openstack.org/386138 | 18:37 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump keystonemiddleware minimum to latest release https://review.openstack.org/386139 | 18:38 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump openstackclient minimum to latest release https://review.openstack.org/386141 | 18:39 |
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tonyb | jroll: Sure I'll look after the school run | 21:14 |
jroll | tonyb: no rush, thanks :) | 21:14 |
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