Thursday, 2016-10-13

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coolsvaptonyb: the scheduling of the meeting at a common time looks very difficut03:19
coolsvaptonyb: let me know how this looks http://doodle.com/poll/qq4wxkvgaaricqts03:22
coolsvapI found very little common time overlap03:23
coolsvaphttp://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=12,6,21,30&h=1203:23
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tonybcoolsvap: Thanks for doing that.  What about 0700 (UTC) which I htink is the worldtimebuddy link you sent through.05:06
tonybcoolsvap: that doesnt seem to be an option on the doodle poll05:06
prometheanfiremaybe bounce the meeting between diferent timezones since we are so spread out?05:10
tonybprometheanfire: Perhaps we coudl come up with an alternating schedule but I really like most of us getting together weekly05:11
coolsvaptonyb: that will be 12AM for cedt05:11
tonybI think we're too small to really do alternating meetings05:11
prometheanfireya05:12
tonybcoolsvap: IIRC prometheanfire said that was fine05:12
prometheanfire7am local? or was that 3am?05:12
tonybcoolsvap: dirk and toabctl said "maybe"05:12
tonybprometheanfire: 0700 UTC 0000 CDT05:12
prometheanfirewho's on AST?05:12
prometheanfiremidnight is fine05:12
prometheanfireafter all, here I am05:13
coolsvapprometheanfire: 0700 local05:13
tonybIST -- coolsvap, AEDT == tonyb, CEST == dirk, toabctl (and others)05:13
prometheanfireoh, didn't know that05:13
tonybprometheanfire: /me has to ask also ;P05:14
prometheanfireso ya, 'now' is fine05:14
* tonyb notes that dirk and toabctl are quiet so i'd be asking them to wake up05:14
prometheanfiretrue05:15
prometheanfirewhen it was 7AM for me that was better because it was just me05:15
* prometheanfire feels odd being the only american on a team05:15
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tonybprometheanfire: okay, It's just DST chnages that have made life difficult :(05:16
coolsvapIf we need to meet at same time every week, one will have to stay late or wake up early05:16
prometheanfireya05:17
prometheanfireI can do 6AM05:17
prometheanfireactually05:17
coolsvapThat's why I think we can do alternate timing05:17
prometheanfireask claco05:17
prometheanfirecoolsvap: who you don't know :P05:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Require osc-lib>=1.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/38464405:17
prometheanfirehe may let me come in later05:17
prometheanfiretonyb: sound good?05:18
coolsvapSo it's not only one person who is suffering05:18
prometheanfiremeh, if he lets me come in a little later that day then that worksforme05:19
coolsvapprometheanfire: alright05:19
tonybokay.  If everyone thinks alternating can work then we can try it.05:19
prometheanfiretonyb: if I can come into work an hour later that means I could sleep probably05:20
tonybbut I'd like to set the expectation that we all attend as often as possible.  I'd like to avoid the situation where (for example) dirk and I never talk because we each pick different meetings to attend and our work days don't overlap05:20
tonybprometheanfire: you'd go back to sleep?05:21
prometheanfireya05:21
prometheanfiredepends on if he'd let me swing it05:21
tonybprometheanfire: anyway 6am for you is 2300 for me which I'm struggling with.05:21
prometheanfiretrue05:21
prometheanfireat that point you might as well make it 5AM for me05:22
tonybprometheanfire: that's a generous offer.05:23
prometheanfireI'm a helper05:23
coolsvaptonyb: how about one morning and one evening AEDT timing05:23
prometheanfireiirc, my title is 'chief technical helper'05:23
coolsvapUmm no that would be very early for me05:24
prometheanfireat that point it'd be dividing up my night more evenly05:24
prometheanfirecoolsvap: ?05:24
coolsvapAEDT morning would be 3/4 am for me I suppose05:25
coolsvapLet me check05:25
tonybcoolsvap: Yeah anything befoer noon AEDT) would be terrible for you05:26
* tonyb really wishes worldtimebuddy would allow >4 timezones05:27
coolsvapIt does in the paid version05:28
* prometheanfire thinks it could be a js thing that could be edited05:29
tonybcoolsvap: Oh really?05:29
prometheanfiretonyb: email sent05:31
tonybprometheanfire: too which address?05:31
tonybOh I see it05:31
prometheanfirejust as an option05:32
tonybprometheanfire: Cool.05:32
prometheanfiredecided to write it now, or I'll forget05:33
tonybI think 0500 UTC and/or 1100 UTC05:34
tonybI s'pose we could alternate between them to spead the pain05:35
dirktonyb: sorry, in an interview right now..05:35
tonybdirk: Oh that coudl be good I guess ;P05:36
dirktonyb: not for me, I'm the interviewer05:36
tonybdirk: phew!05:37
dirkdidn't read all of the backlog, but 0700 UTC is perfectly fine for me and toabctl05:38
toabctlhey05:38
dirkToabctl is usually up before me05:38
tonybdirk: what about 0500UTC whihc is about 40mins ago?05:38
toabctldirk, eh.well. I can't guarantee. I may be there.05:39
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prometheanfirewell, nn :P05:47
dirktonyb: it's definitely early for me then05:56
tonybdirk: okay.05:56
dirktonyb: sorry do you mean 0600 UTC?05:56
dirk56 min ago is fine for me05:56
tonybdirk: I'm terrbly confused05:57
dirkI'm in UTC+2 ( switching to UTC+1 soon)05:57
dirkNo, me is confused05:57
tonybI thought 0500 UTC == 0700 CEST == 1600 AEDT all approx 58mins ago05:58
dirkYep, you're right05:58
tonybdirk: but then in $small_number of week you transition from CEST to CEDT which would make you UTC +1 not UTC +2 is that correct?05:59
prometheanfirewhy can't we get rid of dst and all use one timezone (utc)?06:00
tonybprometheanfire: ;P06:01
dirkprometheanfire: everything is so much easier if you all just switch to my timezone ;-)06:02
dirktonyb: yep06:02
tonybdirk: okay thanks that explains the problem.06:02
prometheanfiremeh06:03
tonybtimezone make my head hurt06:05
prometheanfiretonyb: I now know you are not a computer06:07
tonyb:)06:07
prometheanfirethough computers don't do time all that well either06:07
dirkLol06:10
dirkAre we going to use the doodle?06:10
dirkI seem to be only one06:10
prometheanfiredoodle?06:11
dirkOr.maybe it shows only people in my timezone06:11
toabctlwhere's the doodle link?06:11
dirkhttp://doodle.com/poll/qq4wxkvgaaricqts06:12
toabctlso what timezone are the mentioned times? utc?06:12
prometheanfireya, didn't get that :P06:12
toabctloh. there a huge infobox about the automatic timezone convertion06:13
* toabctl needs more tea06:13
prometheanfireupdated06:14
coolsvapprometheanfire: I actually did not send it across, I was checking if there are any other options.06:19
dirkcoolsvap: the confusing is probably because we all are going to switch timezones, so it is not clear whether it is in old or new time06:20
dirkFor me it doesn't matter though with the given 3 options06:20
coolsvapdirk: I created it with UTC times in consideration06:21
coolsvapthe variance in TZ does not allow much convenience06:23
prometheanfireya, not everyone even changes at the same date06:23
prometheanfireanyway, nn again06:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.policy to new release 1.15.0  https://review.openstack.org/38509906:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for osc-lib to new release 1.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/38509306:30
dirkPeriodic jobs seem to be broken06:38
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/38580607:36
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jrollhey folks, curious if you all would object to running ironic unit tests on u-c changes?13:39
jrollwe've been broken by libraries a couple times, most recently this week13:39
prometheanfirejroll: adding it to the cross project verifiations seems doable13:55
jrollprometheanfire: okay, I'll propose it shortly, I assume there's some job macro for it in jjb?13:55
prometheanfireyes13:58
prometheanfireit's already used for nova at the least13:58
prometheanfirejroll: it's all the 'gate-cross' jobs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385093/13:59
jrollprometheanfire: cool, thank you14:02
jrollhere we are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386003/14:07
* jroll looks up who is PTL for the ack14:07
jrolltonyb: mind a review on 386003 when you're around? :)14:08
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prometheanfire:D14:20
prometheanfirejroll: 2016-10-13 14:12:12.859258 | FAILURE: Job gate-cross-ironic-python27-db-ubuntu-xenial not defined14:28
jrollprometheanfire: yeah, fixing, waiting for local tox this time14:28
jrollcores are pegged, all systems go14:29
prometheanfirejroll: have you used grep technology?14:29
prometheanfire:P14:29
jrollyeah, was grepping gate-cross at first, missed the cross-python-blah14:29
prometheanfireah14:29
jrollprometheanfire: fixeded14:36
prometheanfirejroll: out of curiousity, I'd be intrested in seeing the breakage we let through14:48
jrollprometheanfire: most recently was ironic-lib, we have some tests in ironic that were mocking ironic-lib things (yeah, that's on us, but still happened)14:49
jrollanother was an oslo thing that changed the exception being raised14:49
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sdakesay will the proposal bot automatically propose a requirements change to a newly created stable/newton branch (for kolla created this morning?)15:52
prometheanfiresdake: iirc, yes, as long as you are in projects.txt15:53
sdakeprometheanfire thanks!15:53
sdakeprometheanfire any idea when it happens?15:54
sdakewe have 5 days (oct 18th) for our deadline15:54
prometheanfireprobably midnight15:54
sdakethanks15:54
prometheanfireif not I'd ask in -releases15:54
sdakeok15:54
odyssey4mesdake IIRC it runs every 3 or 6 hours so you should be good15:56
sdakeodyssey4me thanks15:56
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump keystoneauth1 minimum to latest release  https://review.openstack.org/38613518:35
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump keystoneclient minimum to latest release  https://review.openstack.org/38613818:37
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump keystonemiddleware minimum to latest release  https://review.openstack.org/38613918:38
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/requirements: bump openstackclient minimum to latest release  https://review.openstack.org/38614118:39
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tonybjroll: Sure I'll look after the school run21:14
jrolltonyb: no rush, thanks :)21:14
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