Wednesday, 2017-01-18

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/42110501:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for os-brick to new release 1.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/42144604:33
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prometheanfiretonyb: anything for tonight (for you)?05:40
prometheanfireI just have the monasaca thing05:40
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/42170707:24
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prometheanfireoh ya, I'm supposed to run this meeting...09:05
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prometheanfire15 min warning09:44
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for keystoneauth1 to new release 2.18.0  https://review.openstack.org/42178210:10
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for os-client-config to new release 1.25.0  https://review.openstack.org/42178310:11
prometheanfirenn for now10:35
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for automaton to new release 1.7.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192214:11
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for futurist to new release 0.21.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192514:11
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.messaging to new release 5.17.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192614:12
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.cache to new release 1.17.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192714:12
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.config to new release 3.22.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192814:12
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for debtcollector to new release 1.11.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192914:13
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.log to new release 3.20.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193014:13
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.middleware to new release 3.23.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193114:14
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for tooz to new release 1.48.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193214:14
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.context to new release 2.12.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193414:14
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.policy to new release 1.18.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193614:15
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.i18n to new release 3.12.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193714:15
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslosphinx to new release 4.10.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193814:16
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.reports to new release 1.17.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193914:16
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.versionedobjects to new release 1.21.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194014:16
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for taskflow to new release 2.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194114:17
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for monasca-statsd to new release 1.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194214:17
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.utils to new release 3.22.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194314:18
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.vmware to new release 2.17.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194414:18
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for stevedore to new release 1.20.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194514:18
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.db to new release 4.17.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194614:19
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.service to new release 1.19.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194714:19
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslotest to new release 2.13.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194814:20
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.privsep to new release 1.16.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194914:20
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for ironic-lib to new release 2.5.1  https://review.openstack.org/42197514:38
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dhellmanntonyb, prometheanfire : I'm seeing a bunch of merge conflicts on the constraint update patches. How do you normally handle those? Rebase?16:27
dhellmannit would be good to change the format of that file to avoid conflicts if we can16:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for os-client-config to new release 1.25.0  https://review.openstack.org/42178316:30
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed openstack/requirements: Updated from generate-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/42170716:49
prometheanfiredhellmann: ya, rebase16:56
prometheanfiredhellmann: I actually asked upstream gerrit how we could better handle it, mainly by reducing the patch context, they can't do that :|16:58
dhellmannprometheanfire : would it not help if we added blank lines between requirements entries?16:58
dhellmannprometheanfire : failing that, how about having a bunch of separate files and using a docs job to publish one big static list for the jobs to read from?16:59
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prometheanfiredhellmann: that could help, not sure how much I like it17:05
prometheanfireeither could help17:05
sigmavirusprometheanfire: dirk care to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/421358 ?17:07
dhellmannprometheanfire: maybe we can experiment by adding blank lines around the oslo libs, since those cause the most conflicts17:07
dhellmannprometheanfire : although it's probably easier to make the update bot just add an extra newline to every line than to try to keep them when present in part of the file17:08
prometheanfiredhellmann: doing it manually usually takes ~3 runs through, doing every 3-4, ignoring what gerrit mentions as neeing rebase17:08
prometheanfiredhellmann: make sure it doesn't always do that :P17:08
dhellmannthat's nuts, this is something we need to make less manual17:08
prometheanfire:D17:09
prometheanfiresigmavirus: actually came up in the meeting, but ya, I'll look (in an hour or so)17:09
dhellmannjroll, prometheanfire : it's suspicious to me that this ironic-lib patch to update the constraints url is passing tests. Shouldn't it fail because the constraints file is missing?17:24
dhellmannoh! or is the CI system using a local version of the constraints file17:24
dhellmannI'll bet that's it17:24
jrolldhellmann: do you want me to hold that for now, then?17:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for debtcollector to new release 1.11.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192918:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.utils to new release 3.22.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194318:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.config to new release 3.22.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192818:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.cache to new release 1.17.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192718:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.db to new release 4.17.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194618:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for tooz to new release 1.48.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193218:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for automaton to new release 1.7.0  https://review.openstack.org/42192218:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.policy to new release 1.18.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193618:05
dhellmannjroll : if you land it, developers are likely to have issues testing locally. so it's probably better to wait.18:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for taskflow to new release 2.9.0  https://review.openstack.org/42194118:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.log to new release 3.20.0  https://review.openstack.org/42193018:08
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: update constraints for oslo Ocata releases  https://review.openstack.org/42194018:51
dhellmannprometheanfire, dirk : ^^18:51
dirkdhellmann: yeah, thanks18:53
dirkdhellmann: do you have any opinion on the psutils/kombu issues ?18:53
prometheanfiredhellmann: that way works too lol18:53
dirkthis would require another round of fast releases18:53
dhellmanndirk : I haven't been following the psutils thing closely, what's going on there?18:53
prometheanfiredhellmann: we removed the cap from gr18:54
prometheanfireand now we want to update uc18:54
prometheanfireto 5.0.1 iirc18:54
dhellmannthat should be ok. why would it require any releases?18:54
prometheanfireit 'should' be ok18:54
prometheanfiredon't think it does actually18:54
dhellmannif it turns out to not be ok, we can lower the constraint again, right?18:54
prometheanfireyep18:55
prometheanfirethat's what I was thinking18:55
dhellmannthough we're a week out from feature freeze, so it'd be a good idea to publicize things before doing something we think might cause trouble18:55
dhellmanna lot of these other constraint updates had failed jobs, did you look into the root causes there? are they just flakey?18:56
dirkdhellmann: we require releases of oslo.reports and os-refresh-config for that18:56
dhellmanndirk : are you updating the minimum supported version, or the constraint?18:56
prometheanfiredirk: for kombu18:56
prometheanfiredon't think we need those releases for psutils18:56
dirkwe do18:56
dhellmannwhy?18:56
dirkoslo.reports and os-refresh-config have a requirements.txt entry psutils < 218:56
dhellmannok, well, it's unlikely that we'll fix that by tomorrow18:57
dirkso they can not be coinstalled with anything else that would require psutils >= 218:57
dirkdhellmann: well when would os-refresh-config be released? currently its at b2 or so18:57
dirkthe next release should have it as git state is okay I think. the changes all merged18:57
dhellmannos-refresh-config isn't the problem, oslo.reports is18:58
dhellmannthat's a lib, which will freeze tomorrow18:58
dirkdhellmann: the fix for oslo.reports is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421939/18:58
dirksorry, I mean oslo.reports release might have the fix18:58
* dirk looks18:58
dirkah, no, the release was specifically exluding that change19:00
dirkdamn19:00
dirkdhellmann: what to do? release a 2.17.1 or 2.18 ?19:00
dhellmanndirk : I don't really know the nature of the change, so I can't say which version number is best. You should talk with harlowja in #openstack-oslo about it and get his approval for a release at all, then we can pick the version number.19:01
dirkdhellmann: ah, nevermind, the newest release has it all.19:02
dhellmannso the current oslo.reports does support the newer psutils?19:03
dirkyep19:05
dirkthe story around oslo.messaging is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409294/2319:06
dirkbasically there is considerable effort to move to kombu4/amqp2 for some time already, but we're struggling on getting it merged and released in the right order19:06
dirkprometheanfire: one for you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/42193919:12
prometheanfiredirk: the reports release?19:12
prometheanfireI was waiting on passing19:12
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openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed openstack/requirements: Add libdeprecation  https://review.openstack.org/42206919:31
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.rootwrap to new release 5.4.0  https://review.openstack.org/42219119:47
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for oslo.concurrency to new release 3.18.0  https://review.openstack.org/42219219:47
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for glance_store to new release 0.20.0  https://review.openstack.org/42219319:48
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for mox3 to new release 0.19.0  https://review.openstack.org/42219419:48
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for osprofiler to new release 1.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/42219619:48
jrolldhellmann: noted, thanks19:56
dhellmanndirk : unfortunately it looks like that kombu work is going to miss the deadline. It seems risky to me to approve a change like that so late. :-(19:58
dhellmannif we can't land it in master before atlanta, maybe we can talk about getting it done while we're together there?19:58
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for os-win to new release 1.4.0  https://review.openstack.org/42220420:02
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dirkdhellmann: that works for me.. i agree with you that this is very much on the risky side of things20:04
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: add blank lines to the constraints list to avoid merge conflicts  https://review.openstack.org/42220520:05
dirkOn the other side, we would find out very soon ;-)20:05
dhellmanndirk : we should make sure harlowja (or the next PTL) puts it on the discussion list for the PTG20:05
dhellmannprometheanfire, tonyb, dirk : that patch to the constraints generator feels hacky, but worth some thought ^^20:06
dhellmannprometheanfire : fwiw, even my local git client sees those changes as merge conflicts, so I don't think this is gerrit's fault20:06
sdaguehey all, I've got a patch up for gr to add devstack-tools, but it's going to be a slightly weird requirement, in that it's often going to need bumping the version in the stable branches with how the gate works - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422189/20:07
prometheanfiredhellmann: I was asking if gerrit could tell git the context size, but it can't20:07
dhellmannah20:07
prometheanfiregit itself can be configured to have a diferent context size though20:07
sdagueso it seems worth talking about a little before we commit that the pinning of that will be in gr, given that folks will need to feel comfortable with bumps on stable20:08
dhellmanndo you know what the context size for gerrit is? how many blank lines do I have to insert? :-)20:08
sdaguedhellmann: I thought the git default was like 5 lines20:09
dhellmannsdague : does devstack-tools have to be co-installable with everything else, or can devstack put it into a tools virtualenv?20:09
dhellmannugh, I don't want to insert 5 blank lines between each constraint line, that's silly20:09
sdaguedhellmann it could be in a venv20:09
sdagueit has no dependencies except pbr20:09
dhellmannmaybe a venv makes more sense then? it would let devstack control the version pinning20:10
sdagueand am going to try to keep it that way20:10
sdaguedhellmann: it actually is needed by devstack-gate and grenade before devstack runs20:10
dhellmannoh, I see20:10
sdaguebut... a venv could work, maybe20:10
dirkdhellmann: we could just sort the file by reversed word instead of normal sorting ;-)20:10
dhellmanndirk : I was trying to think of how to "randomly" organize it, but be consistent in the randomization20:11
dirkThen you have more context between all those oslo. Libs20:11
dirkdhellmann: just skip oslo. Prefix on sorting20:11
dhellmannoh, hey, if we set the random seed to the same value, the sort would come out the same way every time, right?20:11
dhellmannthat's potentially interesting, too20:11
dirkYep. But the seed has to be 42 then20:12
dhellmannwe have all of those python-*client libs, too20:12
dhellmannwe don't release those in batches all that often, but we will be next week20:12
dirkYeah, it happens often enough20:12
dhellmannok, I'm going to try the random shuffle thing, just for grins20:13
dirkYou could maximize on the levenstein distance20:13
dhellmannthat's fancy20:14
dirkdhellmann: the problrm with rand is that another entry will totally resort everything else20:14
dhellmannhrm, yeah20:15
dhellmannthe levenstein distance is between 2 strings, so we'd have to compute a lot of those to use it as a sort key20:15
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dirkSo i think just hacking a sort key that removes certain prefixes (py, oslo, python) and readds them as suffixes would do the job20:15
dhellmannyeah, I'll try that instead of random20:15
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for pycadf to new release 2.5.0  https://review.openstack.org/42221720:15
dirkYou could just split by word boundaries (e.g. - or .)  and then sort by the reversed list of that20:17
openstackgerritClaudiu Belu proposed openstack/requirements: bump os-win to 1.4.0  https://review.openstack.org/42221920:20
dhellmanndirk : this is what I have to start: line.replace('oslo', '').lstrip('.').replace('python-', '')20:25
dhellmannwhere line is one of the lines from freeze being written to the constraint list20:25
dhellmannI wonder if the fact that foo and fooclient will sort closer together will introduce conflicts there20:26
dirkdhellmann: you still need to readd it as suffix to have stable sorting between oslo.foo and foo20:26
dhellmannoh, true20:27
dirkI don't think so, those are a week apart by schedule ;-)20:27
dirkAnd it's actually soet of nice to have projects together20:27
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: sort by non-repeating prefixes of project names  https://review.openstack.org/42222520:33
dhellmanndirk : try ^^ out20:33
dhellmannI'll run it and see what the output file looks like locally20:33
dhellmannoh, that commit message is terrible20:33
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: ignore repeating prefixes when sorting constraints file  https://review.openstack.org/42222520:34
dhellmanndirk : what do you think about sorting on a hash of the name? oslo.config and oslo.concurrency are still showing up next to each other20:47
dirkdhellmann: hmm.. if thats the only case then i wouldn't worry about it20:50
dirkRebasing one patch every month is bettee than like 20 patches per month20:51
dirkWhat we could do is fix the proposal-generate-bot to chunk together those changes that are nearby in the file20:51
dirkE.g. something similar to what git add -p does20:52
dhellmannwell, the problem is those all happen in different release jobs20:52
dhellmannand we don't want to tie them together in a chain if we can avoid it, because if one patch in the series fails that blocks others from landing20:52
dirkRight20:52
dhellmannthat doesn't happen often, but did this month with novaclient20:52
dirkWhat we also need to prevent that humans add new entries at the wrong place and they then just move around on the next proposal bot run20:54
dirkAre there more cases where things are nearby with the new sorting? I'm not in front of a computer right now20:55
dhellmannI've updated the prefix list to include xstatic- os- oslo. and python-20:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: update constraint for keystonemiddleware to new release 4.14.0  https://review.openstack.org/42178120:56
dhellmannthere are a few more that are 2-3 items, but I'm less worried about those20:56
dhellmannI'll have a sample patch with the new sort order shortly20:56
dhellmannit takes a while to generate that list :-)20:56
openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed openstack/requirements: Add libdeprecation  https://review.openstack.org/42206921:00
sigmavirusthanks dirk & prometheanfire21:01
prometheanfiresigmavirus: anything for you21:01
sigmavirustmi21:03
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: ignore repeating prefixes when sorting constraints file  https://review.openstack.org/42222521:11
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: sample constraints list with new sorting  https://review.openstack.org/42223921:11
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: use sha1 hashes to sort constraints  https://review.openstack.org/42224521:24
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: sample constraints list sorted by sha1  https://review.openstack.org/42224621:24
prometheanfiredhellmann: I think I actually prefer the sha version21:26
prometheanfirebut I always did like UUIDs21:26
dhellmannprometheanfire : I have 3 proposals up now. I thought about using a uuid5 value, but that's just a sha1 anyway21:27
prometheanfirethis is something for the next cycle though21:27
prometheanfirebut good ideas/work :D21:27
prometheanfiredon't think we have to worry about comment blocks in uc either, so that helps21:28
dhellmannno, there are no comment blocks in that file except in the versions I'm generating explaining the ordering being weird21:28
prometheanfireyep21:29
prometheanfireit's machine readable, but will make my job hell as a packager21:29
prometheanfireI suppose I can just sort it and use that21:29
prometheanfireso not that bad21:29
dhellmannyeah, the file is really meant to be read by computers, right?21:32
prometheanfiretrue21:32
prometheanfireI'm not worried about it21:32
prometheanfireI just use it to know what to target when each release rolls around21:33
prometheanfirewhen is ocata dropping?21:33
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: add blank lines to the constraints list to avoid merge conflicts  https://review.openstack.org/42220521:33
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/requirements: sample of constraints file with blank lines  https://review.openstack.org/42225121:33
dhellmannprometheanfire : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110428.html21:35
dhellmanndirk : for when you're back at a desk ^^21:36
dirkprometheanfire: it looks like stable branches have been created in several repos already21:36
prometheanfiredirk: ya, I kinda want to do that soon here too21:36
prometheanfiretonyb should be around soon and we can talk about it21:36
dhellmannprometheanfire, dirk : there's a note in the schedule process doc for when to do that21:37
prometheanfiredhellmann: I know21:37
dhellmannwe need to wait for all milestone-based projects to branch21:37
dhellmannok, just making sure :-)21:37
prometheanfire:D21:37
prometheanfireI just want to do it right after that unlike last time21:37
dhellmannyeah21:37
dhellmannin the post I sent to the ML explaining the process, I said I would do it, but we can talk about someone else on the team doing it (or at least letting me know you're ready)21:38
dhellmannI don't know who has permission to create branches in the requirements repo21:38
prometheanfirebranching?21:39
dhellmannyeah21:39
prometheanfiretony probably does21:39
dhellmannpossibly21:39
dirkI think any core can21:44
dirkAh, maybe not21:44
prometheanfireya, didn't think so :P21:44
dirkProbably only those that have also privileges on stable/ . That would.make sense21:45
dhellmannI think only "Release Managers" have permission to create branches. So Tony does, but through that and not by virtue of being ptl21:46
dhellmannacls for requirements are inherited from the basics: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/projects/All-Projects,access21:47
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements: update constraint for python-mistralclient to new release 3.0.0  https://review.openstack.org/42226221:52
openstackgerritBrian Curtin proposed openstack/requirements: Add libdeprecation  https://review.openstack.org/42206922:30
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/requirements: Update python-ironicclient minimum to 1.10.0  https://review.openstack.org/42228722:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/requirements: Add Flask-RESTful to requirements for Craton  https://review.openstack.org/42135823:52

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