| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Raise OpenStack SDK minimum requirement https://review.openstack.org/451482 | 00:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dinesh Bhor proposed openstack/requirements master: Add masakari and its client to projects list https://review.openstack.org/451669 | 06:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/451697 | 08:33 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all, I have two patches to sync requirements of masakari related projects. Can someone please check those? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++topic:bp/enable-openstack-proposal-bot+owner:%22Dinesh+Bhor+%253Cdinesh.bhor%2540nttdata.com%253E%22 | 08:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/451697 | 11:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Add shade and requestsexceptions to sync list https://review.openstack.org/450979 | 13:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Davanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/requirements master: Add etcd3gw for tooz (eventlet scenarios) https://review.openstack.org/451860 | 15:16 |
| dims | mordred : ^ | 15:22 |
| mordred | dims: you could probably pretty easily host that in oslo if you wanted :) but also +2 | 15:23 |
| dims | y hoping it's throw away | 15:25 |
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| jrist | hi all - we're blocked on this in ci https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451815/ can we get some eyes on it? | 18:09 |
| jrist | thanks | 18:09 |
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| dirk | jrist: better ask in #openstack-stable and/or #openstack-release, we can't help ya (-requirements is only allowed to do stuff for master branch) | 20:41 |
| dhellmann | sdague, prometheanfire, dirk, tonyb_ : where do we stand on this constraint update for appdirs in newton? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446758/ | 20:42 |
| sdague | dhellmann: I don't know | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | sdague : did my last comment make sense? | 20:44 |
| sdague | it kind of feels like we should be capping setuptools | 20:44 |
| sdague | yeh, it does | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | if we cap setuptools, we have to cap pip, too | 20:44 |
| sdague | yep | 20:45 |
| dhellmann | and I'm not sure we can always do that, since they tend to make changes to pypi with related changes in pip -- that's why we always force the latest version anyway | 20:45 |
| dhellmann | we might be able to cap virtualenv, but even that I don't know | 20:45 |
| sdague | the alternative is that we keep bumping stable requirements | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | well, we haven't changed the requirements, just the constraints. and I don't think we said we would never update the constraints list, just the lower bound of the requirements. | 20:46 |
| sdague | dhellmann: sure, but we definitely stop testing with what we shipped with | 20:46 |
| sdague | and, appdirs, maybe not a big deal | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 20:47 |
| sdague | pyparsing is in there as well, which I think was the previous sticking point | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | ugh, yeah, that one we use directly | 20:47 |
| sdague | we do use appdirs places as well | 20:47 |
| sdague | but the complexity of appdirs is low, pyparsing, not so much | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | oh? I didn't realize that. maybe my grep failed to find the location. | 20:47 |
| sdague | well, for some definition of "we" | 20:47 |
| sdague | I know it's in shade | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | ah | 20:48 |
| sdague | and it's a good library, I would expect it to come into some other places as well | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we can't assume that it's safe to remove the constraints on any of them, but I think we need to address the policy question | 20:49 |
| sdague | so... if everyone else is good with stable uc bumps, I'll un -1 | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | I always viewed constraints as the list of things we use upstream to make our test system work, rather than precisely the thing we say distros should package | 20:49 |
| sdague | but it seemed to really uppend our previous direction | 20:49 |
| sdague | dhellmann: yeh, it is, but I thought when we went to stable we got a little more strict on "we'll only bump it if we really have to" | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | well, yeah, this is one of those cases | 20:50 |
| sdague | we've definitely had low risk security bugs that would have been fixed by substantial requirements bumps, which we decided to not fix because of the code churn concern | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | this is a gate failure | 20:50 |
| sdague | I remember something on the processutils front | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | let me find the patch that depends on this one | 20:50 |
| sdague | and if we weren't going to fix security with a bump, it seems weird to do this one. | 20:51 |
| sdague | dhellmann: it's only the mixed branch jobs though right? | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445187/ | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | maybe something happened while I was out last week? did we drop some jobs affected by this? | 20:51 |
| prometheanfire | generally I'm against the bump because I think test-reqs deps (pip setuptools etc) should be locked, if upstream is not allowing us to lock them we should talk with them or work around it | 20:52 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : upstream on setuptools and pip have not been all that sympathetic to our requests for more stability in the past. | 20:52 |
| dirk | dhellmann: does https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443560/ help? | 20:52 |
| dhellmann | dirk : maybe? | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | I could try removing the depends on line from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445187/ to see if that patch works without it | 20:53 |
| dirk | dhellmann: this one should be fixed after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447025/ lands | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | maybe sdague will take a look at ^^ then | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | dirk : when you say "this one" which one do you mean? | 20:54 |
| sdague | right, that tox change is fine, +A on that | 20:55 |
| dirk | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443560/ fails in jenkins due to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447025/ not being merged | 20:55 |
| sdague | dirk: ah, so that lets the setuptools pin go in place | 20:55 |
| sdague | then this gets fixed the other way | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | cool, I'm happy with the approach in those 2 patches if we agree on it | 20:56 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: ya, I know, it just sucks that we can't be atomic without being able to lock it down | 20:56 |
| sdague | dhellmann: so, I guess the thing is, if upstream pip/setuptools aren't as concerned about stability, and with a few of the things clarkb was saying about upcoming changes | 20:56 |
| sdague | it really might be better to get ahead of the notion of *not* always installing latest pip, especially for stable branches | 20:57 |
| dhellmann | sdague : it's definitely something to be explored | 20:57 |
| dhellmann | there's a lot of history there I don't remember right now | 20:57 |
| sdague | well, more than that, there is apparently a bunch of new stuff coming with new toml files | 20:57 |
| dhellmann | after a week of completely disconnected PTO, there's a lot about computers I don't remember right now :-) | 20:57 |
| sdague | heh | 20:57 |
| prometheanfire | dhellmann: sounds nice | 20:58 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it sounds like we need to start thinking about pinning some of these tools and moving them purposefully. That will make developer setup a bit more challenging, since we have to clearly document the versions of everything to use. | 20:59 |
| dhellmann | prometheanfire : it was. | 20:59 |
| dirk | dhellmann: well, it looks like you didn't make the classical mistake of changing your password before PTO and then not remembering it anymore afterwards ;-) | 21:08 |
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| dhellmann | dirk : ha! no, I'll have to try that next time. | 21:08 |
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