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| tonyb | prometheanfire, smcginnis: I12b39279e5d663837ed70f70462e56b36d38e9ac shouldn't have been merged on stable/pike please try not to bump minimums on stable branches, if it needs to happen then stable-maint-core should get a ping. | 00:55 |
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| smcginnis | tonyb: Should we revert that change? | 01:49 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: I don't think so, I'm looking into affected projects | 01:49 |
| smcginnis | tonyb: My understanding was it was needed to fix a critical bug, but looking some more, maybe not critical enough. | 01:51 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: but of course my tools aren't workign so #yakshaving :( | 01:51 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: Yeah it wasn't critical. It was a correctness issue | 01:51 |
| smcginnis | Bleh. Sorry, feel bad I let that one through. I'll try not to do it again. :{ | 01:52 |
| tonyb | smcginnis: that's all I can ask. (not the feeling bad thing, I'm sorry for that) | 02:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Update project-config validation https://review.openstack.org/515005 | 02:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: update constraint for oslo.reports to new release 1.24.0 https://review.openstack.org/514824 | 02:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: Remove temporary zuulv3 transition helper https://review.openstack.org/512897 | 02:42 |
| prometheanfire | damnit | 03:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/requirements master: update constraint for python-watcherclient to new release 1.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/515141 | 05:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: Updated from generate-constraints https://review.openstack.org/514134 | 06:22 |
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| dirk | tonyb: if there is a way to not make you shrug on my reviews then I am happy to do that | 06:36 |
| tonyb | dirk: the hacking one? | 06:36 |
| dirk | tonyb: no, the zuulv3 transition thing | 06:37 |
| dirk | The hacking one can be fixed best adding the depends-on, right? | 06:37 |
| tonyb | dirk: Don't worry about it. I just can't convince myself that we're okay but if you're convinced I'm okay with that. | 06:38 |
| tonyb | dirk: you're clearly going to be around if it turns into a problem ;P | 06:39 |
| tonyb | dirk: For the hacking one just remove the cap. I think it's a bad idea but I'm not going to be grumpy of it merges | 06:40 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Should we switch to alternating meetings I can't do 2200-2300 | 06:45 |
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| dirk | tonyb: well, what I am wondering about is the rest of it though | 06:48 |
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| dirk | E.g. in my understanding projects should either use hacking or flake8 as dependency, and everything else should be pulled in indirectly | 06:49 |
| dirk | As such we shouldn't be adding pycodestyle either.. | 06:50 |
| dirk | But there a a hundred projects doing so | 06:50 |
| tonyb | dirk: No projects are few to use whatever linter they like. | 06:51 |
| tonyb | dirk: hacking has OpenStack specific extensions but isn't mandated | 06:51 |
| dirk | Yes, hacking is optional I agree to that | 06:52 |
| tonyb | dirk: It's just a library we can't remove it until it's unused, and then we can push back if people try to add it | 06:53 |
| tonyb | dirk: you've seen how hard it is to remove stuff :( | 06:53 |
| dirk | Well, what's the set of projects that we care about? | 06:53 |
| tonyb | The bottom line is projects.txt | 06:53 |
| tonyb | if any of them uses it we have to keep it | 06:54 |
| dirk | Is there a way to check whether those are not using it? There is a ton of stuff that uses it but never merged a patch in the last year or so, so assuming it suddenly would is not likely | 06:54 |
| dirk | Ok, do you have magic tooling for verification against projects.txt? | 06:54 |
| dirk | Right, but the single most valuable thing to do regarding maintenance is deleting code ;-) | 06:56 |
| dirk | As such cleaning up stuff is important imho. And using a 4 years old linter that cannot evem parse python 3.x isn't great either | 06:56 |
| tonyb | I have some tools that I can clean up somewhat and publish but they were never written for that. | 06:56 |
| tonyb | dirk: Sure I'm all for deleteing stuff as long as we don't break consumers | 06:57 |
| dirk | Agreed | 06:57 |
| dirk | I will add the depends-on | 06:57 |
| dirk | I wonder if we can query codesearch with the list of projects.txt | 06:57 |
| tonyb | (probably plural) | 06:58 |
| tonyb | we can't | 06:58 |
| dirk | That would be awesome as a check job | 06:58 |
| tonyb | well I guess you could construct a URL but it's probably blow thr 4096 char limit | 06:58 |
| dirk | Why? Url length limit exceed? | 06:58 |
| tonyb | [tony@thor openstack]$ wc -c openstack/requirements/projects.txt | 06:59 |
| tonyb | 8041 openstack/requirements/projects.txt | 06:59 |
| tonyb | that's nearly double the limit | 06:59 |
| tonyb | dirk: (for p in $( cat openstack/requirements/projects.txt ) ; do cd $p ; git grep ^pyflakes origin/master -- requirements.txt test-requirements.txt setup.cfg ; done) | grep -B1 pyflakes | 07:02 |
| tonyb | gives: | 07:02 |
| tonyb | /home/tony/projects/openstack/openstack-dev/hacking | 07:02 |
| tonyb | origin/master:requirements.txt:7:pyflakes==0.8.1 # MIT | 07:02 |
| tonyb | -- | 07:02 |
| tonyb | /home/tony/projects/openstack/openstack/mistral | 07:02 |
| tonyb | origin/master:test-requirements.txt:22:pyflakes==0.8.1 # MIT | 07:02 |
| tonyb | -- | 07:02 |
| tonyb | /home/tony/projects/openstack/openstack/mox3 | 07:02 |
| tonyb | origin/master:test-requirements.txt:8:pyflakes==0.8.1 # MIT | 07:02 |
| tonyb | -- | 07:02 |
| tonyb | /home/tony/projects/openstack/openstack/openstack-ansible | 07:02 |
| tonyb | origin/master:test-requirements.txt:11:pyflakes==0.8.1 # MIT | 07:02 |
| tonyb | -- | 07:02 |
| tonyb | /home/tony/projects/openstack/openstack/python-tackerclient | 07:02 |
| tonyb | origin/master:test-requirements.txt:9:pyflakes==0.8.1 # MIT | 07:02 |
| tonyb | so there's you list | 07:02 |
| tonyb | dirk: that's something close to my magic tools ;P | 07:04 |
| dirk | tonyb: ah, it is good to know you have a full checkout ;-) | 07:04 |
| * dirk only has checkouts of stuff he ever touched | 07:04 | |
| dirk | I will add the depends-on and break this one out of the patch series | 07:05 |
| tonyb | dirk: I update it daily | 07:05 |
| tonyb | dirk: but my really magic tools will pull stuff from cgit if you don't have them locally ;P | 07:06 |
| dirk | Ah, is there a cgit fusefs or so? That would be cool | 07:11 |
| dirk | I guess we could use the google repo thing | 07:11 |
| dirk | https://source.android.com/source/using-repo | 07:12 |
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| tonyb | dirk: Og there may be, I just map repo + files into a cgit url and cache them if file doesn't exist locally | 07:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/requirements master: Add heat-dashboard to projects.txt https://review.openstack.org/514625 | 10:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/requirements master: Add pycodestyle https://review.openstack.org/514663 | 11:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/requirements master: Fix pep8 issue https://review.openstack.org/514664 | 12:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/requirements master: Fix python 3.x portability issue https://review.openstack.org/514665 | 12:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/requirements master: Use a recent hacking version https://review.openstack.org/514666 | 12:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dirk Mueller proposed openstack/requirements master: Normalize global-requirements.txt https://review.openstack.org/514667 | 12:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for python-monascaclient to new release 1.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/515398 | 13:01 |
| prometheanfire | dirk, when are you available? also, gernany is where you are at right? | 14:15 |
| prometheanfire | dirk: this is what I have right now https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=2911298,4726206,2147714&h=4726206 | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/requirements master: Bump openstacksdk version to 0.9.19 https://review.openstack.org/515431 | 14:39 |
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| dirk | prometheanfire: I am in Germany, yes | 14:56 |
| prometheanfire | cool | 14:57 |
| prometheanfire | dirk: what times are you available for meetings? | 14:57 |
| prometheanfire | local | 14:57 |
| dirk | prometheanfire: sorry, missing background. Is this about scheduling for the winter times? | 14:57 |
| dirk | We have dst switch upcoming next week | 14:58 |
| prometheanfire | just in general | 14:58 |
| prometheanfire | tony pinged me about not being able to meet up at 2300 his time | 14:58 |
| dirk | prometheanfire: it depends on the weekday. Do we stay with Wednesday? | 14:58 |
| prometheanfire | I'm fine with changing if needed or it works out better | 14:59 |
| prometheanfire | ranges for weekend/weekday would help me plan | 14:59 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for monasca-statsd to new release 1.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/515441 | 15:04 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for monasca-common to new release 2.4.0 https://review.openstack.org/515443 | 15:11 |
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| dirk | prometheanfire: I can easily do 9am-4pm in my local timezone. but that doesn't get us anywhere | 15:46 |
| dirk | prometheanfire: note that things are changing next week, so another solution is to make it late evening for me | 15:46 |
| dirk | https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=2911298,4726206,2147714&h=4726206&date=2017-10-30&sln=16-16.5 | 15:46 |
| dirk | I might not be able to make that every week but it should be good most of the time | 15:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/requirements master: Update kuryr-lib upper constraint to 0.7.0 https://review.openstack.org/515455 | 15:50 |
| prometheanfire | dirk: that'd work for me | 16:01 |
| prometheanfire | dirk: let's run it past tonyb first | 16:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/requirements master: Bump openstacksdk version in g-r to 0.9.19 https://review.openstack.org/515507 | 19:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/requirements master: Bump openstacksdk version to 0.9.19 https://review.openstack.org/515431 | 19:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Slawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/requirements master: Bump openstacksdk version to 0.9.19 https://review.openstack.org/515431 | 19:50 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire, dirk: that works for me but exlcudes coolsvap | 21:25 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: although that time makes dirk stay up 'till 2200 | 21:26 |
| prometheanfire | yep | 21:29 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for python-heatclient to new release 1.12.0 https://review.openstack.org/515528 | 21:30 |
| dirk | tonyb: sleeping is overrated anyway | 21:57 |
| tonyb | dirk: :) | 21:57 |
| tonyb | dirk: we could to alternating if you decide sleep is helpful ;P | 21:58 |
| dirk | What is coolsvap's time zone? | 22:03 |
| prometheanfire | india right? | 22:04 |
| dirk | We really need and artificial intelligence bot instance for everyone. They can meet anytime, figure it all update and send us an email afterwards | 22:07 |
| dirk | s,update,out, (interesting autocorrect) | 22:08 |
| prometheanfire | ya, there's simply no good time for 4 evenly spaced places around the world | 22:10 |
| dirk | Yeah, it somewhere depends ok the body timezone as well | 22:15 |
| * dirk isn't really an early bird | 22:15 | |
| dirk | The only other thing except for alternating times (that only work if some/most are able to meet both most of the time) is trying to communicate asynchronously | 22:17 |
| dirk | E.g. we used to have an etherpad for task/topic/reminder collect+sharing. It might be good enough for many things | 22:18 |
| prometheanfire | ya, I stay up late more as well | 22:18 |
| dirk | Or use a storyboard | 22:18 |
| prometheanfire | I think we should use bugs | 22:19 |
| prometheanfire | harder for things to slip though the cracks | 22:19 |
| prometheanfire | or both | 22:19 |
| dirk | Yeah. Requires a lot of discipline | 22:20 |
| dirk | I am willing to try it. I am fascinated by all those 'by default we do not meet' kind of philosophy | 22:21 |
| dirk | https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=2911298,4726206,2147714&h=4726206&date=2017-10-30&sln=16-16.5 | 22:23 |
| dirk | Not ideal for prometheanfire I guess | 22:23 |
| prometheanfire | let me look | 22:24 |
| prometheanfire | https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=2911298,4726206,2147714&h=4726206&date=2017-10-30&sln=16-16.5 is fine with me | 22:24 |
| prometheanfire | that's 4PM | 22:24 |
| dirk | https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=2911298,4726206,2147714,1275339&h=4726206&date=2017-11-20&sln=2-2.5 | 22:30 |
| dirk | This one would be for including coolsvap | 22:30 |
| prometheanfire | that's late, but I can still do it | 22:31 |
| dirk | I might be able to do an hour earlier as well | 22:32 |
| prometheanfire | even 30 min would be better, but I won't complain in any case | 22:33 |
| dirk | Yeah, 30 min earlier is totally fine | 22:34 |
| dirk | An hour earlier also works | 22:35 |
| * prometheanfire shrugs | 22:35 | |
| dirk | 90 min earlier will be a bit difficult | 22:35 |
| dirk | Another variant: using this channel as a office hours channel for 12 hours window or so one day a week | 22:38 |
| dirk | And we try to solve things by reading be backlog | 22:38 |
| dirk | I am happy to follow the whole backlog on a specific day | 22:38 |
| dirk | I usually click it away unless it has highlights though | 22:39 |
| * dirk goes sleep | 22:40 | |
| prometheanfire | dirk: nn :P | 22:45 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/requirements master: update constraint for whereto to new release 0.3.0 https://review.openstack.org/515542 | 22:50 |
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